hello, and a warm welcome to our viewers joining us in the united states and all around the world. i'm max foster in london. just ahead -- >> all roads lead to donald trump. >> nothing was put into donald trump unless donald said so. >> ladies and gentlemen of the jury, do you all agree that this is your verdict? >> yes. >> a verdict against alex jones's lies and their poisonous spread. >> they are really sending a message here. >> russia has deliberately struck civilian infrastructure. >> one country cannot take the territory of another by force. >> announcer: live from london, this is "cnn newsroom" with max foster. it is thursday, october 13th, 9 a.m. here in london. 4 a.m. in washington where in just a matter of hours the january 6th committee will

return to the public eye. in a hearing expected to hammer home that former president donald trump remains a clear and present danger to democracy. but before we get to that there are new details into the investigation of trump's handling of documents. the former president directed boxes to be moved out of a basement storage room to his residence in mar-a-lago. a source telling cnn saying that came after trump received a subpoena for classified documents. the story was first reported by "the washington post." >> it's a really interesting twist. the first time the fbi interviewed this person, they said they didn't move the boxes. the second time this person was interviewed they told a very different story and that's that, in fact, this person did move boxes and did so at the ex-president's specific instruction. that's important for a couple

reasons. one, because it's someone describing what the president said to do and, two, because that description pairs up and tracks with the security footage that the investigators have and those two things together, they believe are powerful evidence. i'm told this person is considered a very important witness, important in the development of the investigation, important in their understanding of what happened and obviously important in ultimately the decision to execute a search warrant because, again, the witness account matches what they see on the security footage. >> we're also learning those documents seized during the mar-a-lago search were far less than the 200,000 pages the trump legal team had claimed. the justice department said it's actually about 10 times less, about 22,000 pages. we'll get back to today's hearing in washington where the

house committee investigating the january 6th attack will hold their first hearing in months. it will feature new testimony and evidence although no witnesses will be appearing in person since the last hearing in july. the committee has interviewed more than -- well, more former members of trump's cabinet and received more than a million communications from the secret service from the leadup to the capitol riot. lawmakers are expected to treat the hearing as a closing argument ahead of the critical mid-term elections and focus on the former president's continued efforts to claim the 2020 election was stolen. >> all roads lead to donald trump. big picture, the hearing is supposed to focus on, quote, his state of mind and his involvement in the events around january 6th. that's according to someone familiar with the committee's work. i'm also told the committee is expected to make the point that

almost two years later donald trump remains a clear and present danger to democracy and that's not just a slogan, they are going to point out that he continues to pretend the election was stolen, he continues to rile up his supporters with lies and they believe he is setting up for a repeat in 2024. >> congressional investigators are hardly alone in that belief that trump is dangerous to democracy. another person who shares that sentiment is his former deputy press secretary. sarah matthews designed after january 6th and later testified. this is what she told cnn in her fi first. >> that's part of his reason to do that.

fwroek folks were pleading with him to do that i think that that does pose a threat to our democracy. meanwhile, a member of the far right group, the oath keepers, testified wednesday about a large stash of weapons the group stored just outside of washington on the day of january 6th capitol riot. five of the group's members face seditious conspiracy charges. their alleged roles in the insurrection. all have pleaded not guilty. the man who testified, terry cummings, is a military veteran who says the weapons were meant as a show of force not to be used. in his own words he told the jury, quote, i have not seen that many weapons in one location since i was in the military. you can watch the january 6th

hearing with anderson cooper, jake tapper, it begins at 1 p.m. in washington, 6 p.m. in london right here on cnn. american conspiracy theorist alex jones is learning the hard way that malicious lies can be costly. a jury awarded families and a first responder nearly a billion dollars in damages. radio host alex jones had insisted it was an elaborate hoax concocted by the government for gun control. >> ladies and gentlemen of the jury -- >> reporter: alex jones, the conspiracy theorist who was found liable last year of defaming families of the sandy hook school shooting must pay victims. >> i'm proud that what we accomplished is to tell the truth. it shouldn't be this hard. it shouldn't be this scary. >> reporter: the connecticut jury unanimously decided jones must pay $965 million

compensatory damages. 14 are family members and a 15th is an fbi agent who responded to the scene. family members sat in court, some crying as the verdict was read. jones was not there. >> the whole thing is fake. >> the info wars host spent years spreading disinformation about the 2012 sandy hook massacre which left 20 children, 6 educators dead calling it a hoax alleging the families involved were crisis actors. during four weeks family members of the victims described how they'd been harassed over the past decade, both in person and online. >> for years i've been dealing with this. everybody was online, everybody in the comfort of their studio in some other state and i never had a chance to tell anybody how i felt or what i thought. i'm paraphrasing at this point but like just how dare you? you're talking about my daughter. she was killed. who do you think you are.

>> and she said, who's that? and i said, that's my son ben. he died in his first grade classroom at sandy hook school. and she said, what? i said, yeah, he died at sandy hook. and she said, you're lying. that didn't happen. >> during the trial jones took the stand only one time, on september 22nd, and got in a heated exchange with the plaintiff's attorney. >> today a jury representing our community and our nation rendered an historic verdict, a verdict against alex jones's lies and their poisonous spread and a verdict for truth and for our common humanity. >> jones defense team opted not to cross examine him and jones never took the stand again during the trial. his attorney saying this after the verdict was read today. >> certainly it's more than we

expected. that's an understatement, but we looked very much forward to an appeal in this case. >> reporter: even as the verdict came down alex jones on his show mocking the verdict saying he has no money. his attorney says they plan to appeal this decision. the plaintiff's attorney says they are going to fight this to the very end. now the plaintiffs are going to also be awarded punitive damages but the amount is going to be determined at a later court date. brynn gingras, cnn, waterbury, connecticut. >> jones claims he doesn't have the money to pay the compensatory damages. he's indicating even if he did, he wouldn't and called the verdict a travesty. >> 57 million. 20 million. 50 million. 80 million. 100 million. blah. blah. you get a million. you get 100 million, you get 50 million. do these people actually think they're going to get any meoney? i can keep them in court for

years and appeal this travesty. >> meanwhile, the sandy hook families are feeling a sense of relief and sense of retribution. they spoke to cnn's anderson cooper about how this verdict will help them heal. >> the rush of feelings and emotions was just completely overwhelming, and i don't -- i think i missed a lot after that because i was just very much in this sort of, oh, my gosh, they are really sending a message here and this is going to create change. so it's been -- it's been such an up and down ride especially these last few weeks and i'm just feeling very positive because justice is being done. >> it's not just the families that are on this lawsuit that have been victims of alex jones. there are a numberless amount of people in this country, even his own list enzwlaers have fallen victim to alex jones. i think this number represents more than just us. >> i am so thankful for the

really, really strong message that was hammered down by the jury today, not just for alex jones but for anyone who has a sick aspiration to be like him. >> at the end of it all i could think about was my family and what it's been like over these last almost ten years and, again, that's the other state. the message is a very strong one in terms of, you know, a risk/reward tradeoff for trying to do anything like this in the future. >> for the parents and families the verdict also represents a feeling of accomplishment knowing they did everything they could for those they lost and those who survived, too. >> for me the payoff was alex jones used the statement i gave years ago as a way to torture me and to profit from it, and he was forced to sit in the courtroom and listen to every word that i had to say that night, and i hadn't done that sthans night and i almost forgot

what it was that i shared with the world. and he had to listen to be that, and that was a huge payoff for me to get that back. and then the second i stepped off the stand i knew that i had done exactly what i need today do in this. and it didn't matter what the outcome was. that's what i gained and that was enough for me. >> you know, dylan was the center of my universe, and to have his name remain in positive ways and not be defamed, tee faced, slandered is so important to me. and i really did this for my surviving son, jake. he's been through so much pain already and he's 18 now and i want him to live in a future where he won't be harassed, where people won't come up to him and say, oh, you were part of that sandy hook hoax. i want him to believe in the

good of people and the power of humanity, and i'm hoping that this is going to provide that for him, restore his faith and belief as well. >> the decision in connecticut comes two months after a separate jury in texas determined jones and his company should award two sandy hook parents nearly $50 million. later this month the judge will desired whether to reduce those punitive damages. nato leaders are gathering this hour in brussels for a second day to discuss how to strengthen ukraine's air defenses. the alliance wants to establish a coordinated system to guard against russian strikes. u.s. defense secretary lloyd austin spoke with reporters just a short while ago. >> i want to applaud all of our allies, partners who stepped up to provide assistance to ukraine. russia is in this eighth month of its unprovoked and unjust invasion of ukraine, and since

it's done that, allies have continued to step up to provide security assistance and that just speaks to the quality of this alliance and the focus of the alliance members. >> already france, the u.k. and the netherlands have pledged missiles, weapons, radar systems and other air defense systems and the top u.s. general had this assessment of russia's tactics in ukraine. >> russia's deliberately struck civilian infrastructure with the purpose of harming civilians. they have targeted the elderly, the women and the children of ukraine. indiscriminate and deliberate attacks on civilian targets is a war crime in the international rules of war and this war is a war of choice, a war of choice by russia. >> russian president vladimir

putin is in kazakhstan where he will meet today with his turkish counterpart. a kremlin aid said they are going to officially officiate. turkey is a member of nato but has stayed neutral throughout the conflict and a refrain from imposing sanctions on russia on the battlefield. we have new reports of massive shelling in the southern ukrainian city of mikolaiv. the mayor said a five-story residential building was hit and the two upper stories destroyed. they are searching the rubble for at least seven people who are missing. cnn's selma abdelaziz is following this from here. i'm interested in this turkish move. there's an element of hope there, isn't there? >> absolutely. today president putin in kazakhstan. we've already heard from president erdogan who gave an opening statement just this morning where he said his goal is it end the bloodshed.

there's a precedent. turkey was key to negotiate the ukraine blockade. turkey was key in resolving that conflict a few months ago. it was president erdogan who was able to intervene. throughout this conflict he's had a direct line of communication to president putin. staying neutral during this conflict in so many ways, not imposing sanctions making sure he can be a mediating force. this is a major step forward if, indeed, erdogan does formalize his request to become the mediator, if you will. but the question is, how much is president putin willing to mediate at this time. >> also, would ukraine respect turkey's role in this? are the channels open there as well? >> absolutely there as well. again, there's precedent for this. it's happened in the past. they have been the conduit so there is an opportunity there, but if you look at both sides of this conflict, if you look at the two warring parties, who has an interest in negotiating right

now? who has an interest in coming to the table? on ukraine's side, their counter offensive is working. they have gained back hundreds of square miles of territory in recent weeks. they are absolutely have the upper hand on the battlefield. president putin seems steadfast in his own invasion of ukraine. doesn't seem to be turning course so the question is is there really even an opportunity here to bring these two sides to the table? that's been ongoing for eight months. hasn't happened yet. we'll see what goes on with this meeting today. >> selma, thank you. still to come, a los angeles city council member resigns after racist remarks. why residents are saying it's just not enough. plus, democrats locked in tight races across the u.s. hope president biden's improving poll numbers help them in november. plus, the climate crisis uncovers an ancient secret. volcanic ashe at the bottom of lake meade dating back more than 12 million years.

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we know these people personally. personally. we know each other by first name basis and i don't care. they've got to go. what they did does not represent our community and it hurts our community. >> those leaders do not represent us, that we are in solidarity. we are with each other despite what that leakage says. >> many people saying nury martinez's resignation isn't enough. she stepped down wednesday, two days after resigning from her seat. >> nury martinez released a statement on wednesday apologizing to her staff for ending it this way. she also said, quote, it is with a broken heart that i resign my seat for council district 6. the community i grew up in and

my home. she says she's heartbroken but so is council member mike bonnin whose son was attacked in a conversation that was recorded last year. bonnin cried as he spoke at tuesday's council meeting saying he's raw, angry, heartbroken for his family and los angeles. bonnin is white and his son is black. martinez along with two other council members and a union leader were discussing redistricting and how to consolidate latino political power. she mentioned bonnin's son and said he was misbehaving at a martin luther king parade. >> there was a white guy with a little black kid who miss behaved. there are no -- the kid's bouncing off the f'ing wall on the float practically tipping it

over. there's nothing you can do to control him. like a little white kid. you need a beat down. take him around the corner and i'll bring him back. >> reporter: martinez apologized. the others also apologized but those other council members are still in their elected positions at this moment. the california attorney general said he will investigate the redistricting process in los angeles. back to you. record low water levels in lake meade in nevada and arizona have exposed evidence of ancient eruptions. riverbed rocks laced with volcanic ash from more than 12 million years ago. researchers say there were several volcanic blastness places as far away as wyoming and california. meteorologist derek van dam is joining us now. this is fascinating, isn't it? >> it truly is.

we can add volcanic ash to the list of things that have been revealed from the megadrought that is plaguing the west. we went from sunken ships to warships to unfortunately human remains and now volcanic ash. i'm going to show you the pictures that are absolutely astounding. you're looking at some of the sedimentary rock that was exposed in the recent drought conditions. i want you to see that strip of white here. we get a little bit closer perspective. you see some of the striations in the size of some of the volcanic ash that have been deposited on this from, get this, over 12 million years ago. we said it before the break. this is worth repeating. these are volcanic eruptions that occurred 12 million years ago but not in nevada. we're talking about far away places like montana. just incredible all the way to oregon. we know that there are several volcanos over the western u.s. and speaking of the western u.s., it's the megadrought

that's brought this story to our attention. we have 73% of the western u.s. in drought conditions. 19% classified as extremor worse. now this week has seen some improvement over the four corners or nevada. if you go back to the summer, it was bone dry. we had exceptional drought conditions in and around lake meade. you can see the difference in water levels. satellite imagery from 2000, 2001 and '22. the extreme use from the colorado river. the lack of rainfall that shows just the amount of water that was depleted from lake meade in the past decades and unfortunately it resulted in a -- the lowest ever recorded reading here in lake meade at just 27% of its capacity at 1040 feet. there has been some improvement recently. we've had beneficial rains but that's only brought the water

levels up in lake meade by five feet. we have a long way to go before we start to see some serious, meaningful improvement from the water levels there. the good news is the extended forecast here looking above average in terms of our precipitation. see if we can maintain that though through the rest of the winter when we have to build up water levels. max? >> derek, thank you very much, indeed. now a world war ii era military training ground is the latest national monument in the united states. president biden traveled to mount hale on wednesday for a proclamation. the camp is located in part in the ancestral homelands of the tribes. it served as a training site of the u.s. army's 10th mountain division before they deployed to the alps in the second world war. two men accused of cheating in a fishing tournament in ohio are facing criminal charges. they include grand theft and

possessing criminal tools which are felonies and a misdemeanor charge of illegally owning wild animals. the men were disqualified from the tournament for allegedly stuffing their fish with weights which would have helped them win a nearly $30,000 prize. neither man has responded to requests for comment. encouraging news for democrats ahead of the mid-term elections in november. the president's poll numbers are ticking up. democrats theep will give them an edge in the congressional election. saudi arabia put on notice about cutting prices. the saudis can expect to pay a steep price. >> i am in the process when the house and senate get back, they're going to have to -- there's going to be some consequences for what they've done with russia. there will be consequences.

welcome back to cnn. stories at this hour. january 6th committee will hold its first or its final public hearing. committee members are expected to showcase new witness testimony and evidence in their case against donald trump's role in the attack on the u.s. capitol. that hearing comes as we learn new details about the justice department's investigation into donald trump's mishandling of classified documents. the trump employee told the fbi the former president directed them to move boxes to mar-a-lago after a subpoena for those documents was already given.

now with the u.s. mid term elections less than a month away democrats are cheered by president biden's improved poll numbers. democrats are locked in tight races across the country. the latest cnn polling, the president has rebounded from the 38% approval he had in june and july and now stands at 44%. that's 3 points higher than his approval rating in april and may. saudi arabia denies its decision to cut oil production by 2 million barrels a day for political reasons. there is still a backlash brewing in the biden white house. following the president's visit over the summer the administration had expected the saudis to honor a u.s. request not to slow down the oil. the president is now evaluating all deals. the saudi decision is appalling because it wreaks of

ingratitude. america has done so much for saudi arabia. we supply them with 70% of their arms. we stood up for their sovereignty when saddam hussain was going to invade and for them to hurt and fleece americans in their pocketbooks at a time of crisis is just wrong and there need to be consequences. the president has said there need to be consequences. senator bloom men that will and i today introduced legislation to put a pause on all arm sales to the saudis. americans already paying the cost for that oil cut decision by opec plus. gas prices have been inches closer to $4 again according to aaa, the average price for a gallon is $3.91. closely watching wall street when the opening bell sounds this morning. investors are already worried about consumer inflation. if it shows it's not under control it could trigger a selloff. the federal reserve's efforts to

cool the economy could cause a recession. president biden is downplaying that. rahel solomon has our report on that. >> reporter: u.s. president joe biden pushing back against growing concerns of a recession. during an exclusive interview with cnn's jake tapper, biden said i don't think there will be a recession. if it is, it will be a very slight recession. biden also saying that the u.s. is better off both economically and politically. the labor market does remain very tight here in the u.s. inflation, that's proving to be persistent. the federal reserve's taming inflation is meant to slow the u.s. economy. critics warn it could also derail it. inflation record wednesday showed producer prices or wholesale inflation rose 0.4%. that is twice what a sample of

economists surveyed were expecting. over the last year producer prices are higher, 8.5%. producer inflation gives us a sense of what's in store for consumer inflation. the idea, if it costs more to make a good or service, part of that could make its way into the prices. speaking of consumer inflation. we'll learn if consumer prices rose when they release the cpi report. they showed prices rose slightly, 0.1% in the month prior or 8.3%. friday we also hear from three major u.s. banks when they kick off. rahel solomon, cnn, new york. and meanwhile, despite growing economic turmoil, prime minister liz truss is rolling out spending reductions. the government won't reverse the vast tax cuts or reduce public spending. they will instead, quote, make

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the round of applause in russia's invasion of ukraine. belarus and nicaragua voted no. moscow staged the sham referendums last month claiming four occupied regions had voted to become part of russia. u.n. resolution calls for russia to immediately and unconditionally reverse the decisions.

colleagues, the facts are clear. a u.n. member state has attempted to annex territory from its neighbor by force. the u.n. ambassador said they black mailed people and the people in the annexed reej fwons did not want to return to ukraine. brittney griner is serving a 9 month sentence but her appeal hearing is coming up later this month. another american, paul whelan, spoke to his family for only the second time in a month. he's been moved to a prison hospital but it's unclear why. the white house is monitoring both of these clays closely. we have more on that. president biden is also elaborating on a comment he made

to cnn's jake tapper about potentially meeting with president putin on something like the release of brittney griner saying he would not meet with him generally on ukraine. when he was asked if there's been any movement when it comes to the conversations surrounding griner's release, the president said not with putin. all of this comes as the white house has just released a 48-page document outlining their national security, basically their biggest priority when it comes to that. putting china above russia saying they're more worried about china in the long term. the post cold war era is now over. kaitlyn collins, cnn, the white house. the crackdown on antigovernment protests continues to escalate in . >> ian: ran -- iran. video from a pro reform activist website shows both uniformed and pain clothed police firing

weapons in the air to disperse crowds. businesses were forced to close their doors as tear gas and rubber bullets were used to chase protesters away. iran said some student protesters were being detained where they can be reformed. cnn's nada bashir has more. that's an extraordinary move. >> it's raising concerns. they were speaking in remarks telling the newspaper that some students who had been detained are being referred to the psychological institutions where they will undergo a program called reform and re-education according to the education minister. he's described the students as being part of the protests, displaying anti-social behavior. once they have been examined by experts they will then be allowed to return to their classes but of course this has raised concern and we've heard

the alarm bells being rung by human rights groups including unicef saying children are being killed, injured and detained. this is the latest sort of part of the crackdown that we've seen by the iranian regime. the security forces using heavy-handed tactics still and in just the last few days we've seen the protests springing up up and down the country. >> in terms of theisen terse where they want to reform people, what are they saying? learn to wear head scarves or learn not to demonstrate or this will be what happens if you continue this? >> it's unclear what that sort of program will entail. we have iran's supreme leader speaking yesterday describing these people taking part in the protests and calling them rioters. some are agents in line with iran's enemies. then he eluded to these

psychological institutions. he said other people taking part are just agitated and that cultural work is needed. we have seen these protests focusing on the severe restrictions on women's rights. they're wide reaching. other grievances, of course. there appears to be a real effort by the regime to control the spread of discontent and disillusionment. >> nada, we'll keep watching it. north korea calls this a clear warning to the enemies. we're live in seoul with kim jong-un's latest provocation coming up. they release medicinet for fast paiain relief. and now get relief without a a pill with tylenol dissolve packs. relief without the water.

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to china now where a rare public protest has erupted into the government's zero covid policy. it comes just a few days ahead of the communist party in beijing where xi jinping is expected to secure an unprecedented third term. protesters hung banners on a prominent overpass. bring in celine na wang. the other part of this is we're getting is pretty powerful. >> reporter: the images are

being scrubbed and censored from china's internet. i cannot explain how rare and extraordinary it is to have a demonstration like this, not because it's in the capitol but it's in direct opposition and anger, directed at not just zero covid but at xi jinping himself. there's ramped up security and surveillance. we're just days away from the party congress when xi jinping is expected to secure that unprecedented third term. there are two banners hung over a busy, prominent overpass in the capitol in beijing and one of the banners reads, go on strike. remove dictator and national traitor xi jinping. the other banner reads, say no to covid tests, yes to food, no to lockdown, yes to freedom, no to lies, yes to dignity, no to cultural revolution, yes to reform, no to great leader, yes to vote. don't be a slave, be a citizen. there are also videos showing

the loud speaker with an unidentified man's voice repeating what i had just said. there were also plumes of smoke that you can see in the video but we don't know what those plumes of smoke are from. it's unclear if any arrests were made but the people involved in this could face very severe punishment. that could include imprisonment or even worse. during the past few months we have seen greater showings of protests and discontent because of how harsh the zero covid policy is. to see this in the capitol directed at xi jinping himself, this is extraordinary, max. >> celina in hong kong, thank you. north korea has successfully fired off two strategic cruz missiles. this demonstrates its nuclear strike capability. kim jong-un is satisfied with this particular launch. paula hancocks is following this live for us in seoul. we're getting almost daily updates on this program.

>> reporter: we are, max, yes. this particular one, cruz missiles, wasn't technically breaking any rules for north korea. the cruz missile technology is not banned by u.n. security council resolutions as many of the other missile launches we've seen have been. just the fact kim jong-un himself was there. he was shown on north korean state-run media and has been quoted saying it is another clear warning to the enemy. so clearly this has an international feel to it. he had a message for those outside of north korea also saying that it shows the capabilities of his nuclear combat forces but it is number 26 when we count up the number of missile launches that we've seen this year. it is a record for the north korean leader, kim jong-un certainly showing that he wants to increase his weapons capability and interestingly this week was the first time in six months that north korean state media actually reported on

it. so they have broken their silence. they are now very vocally showing and saying what they are doing and this was another example of that. so even though the missiles themselves weren't of great concern to the region and also to washington, certainly the fact that they are messaging it in this way would have been of concern. max? >> okay. paula, thank you. now it's not even halloween but christmas has come early with a new trailer for a highly anticipated movie. the musical "spirited." ♪ ♪ >> how did you know all that? >> i didn't know. i was just following you. >> you were following me? >> i messed up in the middle there. >> a tap is new for me. >> very expressive medium. >> apple tv+ dropped the teaser on wednesday for the film ryan reynolds, octavia spencer. a new take on the christmas carol story starring reynolds as

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