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tonight, an extraordinary scene of resistance over china's severe crackdown on covid. protesters using an overpass to hang two big banners, one reading go on strike, remove dictator and national traitor xi jinping. an unbelievable statement. the other saying no to covid test, yes to food. no to lockdown, yes to freedom.
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so rare to see anything like this. a protest in china, especially protest directed at xi, who is about to secure an unprecedented third time in power. "ac 360" starts now. good evening. you are going to see a number of extraordinary things over the course of this next hour. it is very rare that we see history happening in realtime. we've all seen the images what happened outside the capitol on january 6th of the capitol being breached, people wandering around, destroying property. that was historic. but it is even rarer to see what was happening behind closed doors where the people in power were making decisions. and that is what you're about to see tonight. in this hour ahead, one of the most consequential moments in living memory in a way you've never seen it before. footage from january 6, 2021, obtained exclusively by cnn as the attack on the capitol unfolded, showing how congressional leaders, speaker
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nancy pelosi and others were supposed to flee the capitol from their offices and move to a secure location where they frantically coordinated with then vice president pence and trump cabinet members to quell the insurrection and finish certifying the election. trying in short to keep democracy and the rule of law from coming apart at the seams. our guest tonight, including the legendary reporters bob woodward and carl bernstein will be seeing much of this video for the very first time, seeing what is a remarkable historical record of that dark day. earlier today, the house january 6th committee, they played a small portion of it, only a few minutes. we're going to be showing you a few hours' worth of it before making themselves history earlier. >> we are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion, and every american is entitled to those answers so we can act now to protect our republic. so this afternoon, i am offering
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this resolution, that the committee direct the chairman to issue a subpoena for relevant documents and testimony under oath from donald john trump in connection with the january 6th attack on the united states capitol. >> and they all voted in favor of that. now the day would be significant alone for that, or just for the footage the committee presented as members made what amount their closing arguments in the case. but there is far more. so the video we're going show you tonight, no one else has seen before. only a few minutes of it were shown in the committee hearing today. it was shot by alexander pelosi, who is a respected documentary filmmaker, and she is the daughter of speaker pelosi. she was with her mom and her family, documenting what was supposed to be a peaceful transfer of political power on january 6th, with the kind of day that distinguishes this day from so many others, when things came unglued. alexandra pelosi kept on
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rolling. this first clip, which runs nearly 17 minutes, part of a documentary that alexandra pelosi has been working on for years. it's edited, and we warn you, you will hear no shortage of profanity. but this is the vantage point from alexandra pelosi in the speaker's office on the day of january 6th and following events with her mom. >> oh my god so, many of them. >> today is a sacred day for our democracy as we mark the peaceful transfer of power. >> the constitution gives us a very specific role today. we are here for one purpose and one purpose only, to count the votes. that is our role. that is the beauty of these mahogany boxes that are being brought over from the senate. they are the repository of the
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certificates sent by the governors, which embodied the will of the people. >> you're in the game. this is it. and we had to be ready in a timely fashion. the more quickly we can have the vote, the more quickly we can designate joe biden and kamala harris president and vice president of the united states. i just want to say in closing this web. today is a piece of the ep epiphany, january 6th. this is of the magi, the rest of the world seeing the birth of christ and all that. and let us pray in any way that you do for our and that today will be an epiphany for the american people as they see the difference between our respect for the oath we take versus what they're up to. and let us hope that they will see the light and have their own epiphany on the other side. >> ladies and gentlemen, please
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welcome the 45th president of the united states of america, president donald j. trump! ♪ and i'm proud to be an american where at least i know i'm free ♪ >> hundreds of thousands of american patriots are committed to the honesty of our elections and the integrity of our glorious republic. all of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by a bold and radical left democrats, which is what they're doing, and stolen by the fake news media. that's what they've done and what they're doing. we will never give up. we will never concede. it doesn't happen. you don't concede when there is theft involved. >> it's very dangerous what he's doing. he is getting all these people to show up and protest, stop the steal. he is putting automatic these crazy ideas in their head. >> and after this, we're going walk down, and i'll be there with you, we're going walk down
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to the capitol. >> if he comes here, we're going to the white house. >> and mike pence is going to have to come through for us. and if he doesn't, that will be a sad day for our country. >> they're marching up. you can see them marching up. >> our country has had enough. we will not take it anymore. and that's what this is all about. >> secret service said they have dissuaded him from coming to capitol hill. they told him they don't have the resources to protect him here. so at the moment, he is not coming. but that could change. >> i hope he comes. i want to punch him out. >> i would pay to see that. >> we're waiting for this, fortress passing on the capitol grounds. i want to punch him out and i'm going to go to jail and i'm going to be happy. >> look at the protesters outside the capitol. [ chanting usa ] >> you remember when you were a
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boy and all the protesters came to protest the affordable care act? >> yeah. >> okay, go get 'em. >> those are the boxes. >> oh my god, how did that guy get up there? >> is the speaker out in the open? >> what if they try and run the capitol? [ chanting "usa" ]
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>> mr. vice president -- >> for what purpose does the gentleman from arizona rise? >> i rise for myself and 60 of my colleagues to object to the counting of the electoral ballots from arizona. >> is the objection in writing and signed by a senator? >> yes, it is. two houses will withdraw from joint session. each house will deliberate simply on the pending objection and report its decision back to the joint session. the senate will now retire to its chamber. >> usa! usa! usa!
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usa! >> voters, the courts, and the states have all spoken. if we overrule them, it would damage our republic forever. >> usa! usa! usa! >> you're our fucking brother! wake the fuck up! >> usa! usa! usa! >> go, go. >> watch out, watch out.
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>> fuck you, police! . >> this is my house. >> this is our house ! >> lockdown? all right. >> our house! >> who's house? >> our house.
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>> who's house? >> our house! >> who's house? >> our house! >> yes, ma'am. >> we did. >> yes. that's correct. >> where is that meeting in? >> hey, where are they counting the votes? >> don't do it, don't do it. >> do you think -- we're going to -- >> okay. >> these people -- these people have -- >> we may get all heads up. we're going to -- the president,
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have totally failed. we have got to manage to proceed or else they will have a complete victory. >> holy shit! holy shit. >> everything, fuck you, people. >> hey, anybody want nancy's fucking boxing gloves? hey, you want nancy's pink boxing gloves? >> i am going to turn my phone
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off. i don't want no one know i was here. >> so i'm going to stay here all day, the rest of our lives or what? we're here until what? until the national guard decides to come and get rid of these people? >> we're here! where the fuck are they? hey, let's take a seat, people. >> nancy pelosi. >> let's vote on some shit. >> fuck this, nancy. >> where are the fucking traitors? drag them out by the fucking hair. >> yeah! can i speak to pelosi? we're coming, bitch. oh, we' oh, mike pence, we're coming for you too, fucking traitor.
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>> my wife just called watching tv. there are people with guns trying to get into the house chamber. >> one of them is in the president of the senate seat. >> let me see. broke into the senate chamber. there is a picture of someone sitting in this chair of the senate. you've all been evacuated. there have been shots fired. we need a full national guard component now. >> we have some senators who are still in their hideaways. they need massive personnel now. can you get the maryland national guard to come too? >> look at this. >> okay. >> oh my god. they're just breaking windows. they're doing all -- it's just horrendous. and all at the instigation of the president of the united states. okay. thank you, governor. >> virginia guard has been
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called in. >> i'm just talking to governor northam. and what he said is they sent 200 of state police and a unit of the national guard. >> debating in the house, debating in the senate. and all of the sudden, john, we're told -- >> okay, let's get them. get the attorney general. >> all these senators, including the vice president of the united states is they've been evacuated. >> personal safety is -- it transcends everything. but the fact is on any given day, they're breaking the law in many different ways. and quite frankly, much of it at the instigation of the president of the united states. >> why don't you get the president to tell them to leave the capitol, mr. attorney general, in your law enforcement responsibility. a public statement they should all leave. will you get the president to make a statement to ask them to leave the capitol? >> so as you might guess, we're coordinating this quickly. >> no, no, no.
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please answer my question. answer my question. >> pull him out! come on! >> they're in one hell of a hurry, you understand? >> loud and clearly. >> this cannot be just we're waiting for so and so. we need them there now, whoever you got. >> for a moment here, for the white house, for some other entity that was under siege, you can logistically get people there as you make the plan. and you have your leadership of the national guard there. they have not been given the authority to be activated. >> hand me the phone. >> hi, mr. vice president? hi, yeah, we're okay. we're here with mr. schumer and mr. mcconnell, the leadership, house and senate. and how are you?
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oh my goodness, where are you? god bless you. but are in a very safe -- we're still not safe enough for us to go back. we're being told it could take days to clear the capitol, and that we should be moving everyone here to get the job done. we're the [ bleep ] which has facilities for the house and the senate to meet. we'd rather go to the capitol and do it there, but it doesn't seem to be safe. we've gotten a very bad report about the conditions of the house floor with defecation and all that kind of thing. okay. and then call us back. okay. i worry about you being in that capitol room. don't let anybody know where you are. >> this was a fraudulent election, but we can't play into
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the hands of these people. we have to have peace. so go home. we love you. you're very special. >> so we shouldn't let him off the hook, nancy. we issued a statement saying he's got to make a statement. he comes up with this bs. >> insurrection. >> oh, yeah. >> that's a crime, and who's guilty of it? >> fuck 'em all. >> do you think we can get to the capitol by 9:10 tonight and finish this? >> senator, i can't give an answer how long it's going to clear. i don't know how many people are inside. so it's very complex operation we're going have to conduct. we're going have to go inside out. >> the sooner you can get us. we have to make a decision whether to go back to the capitol if it's safe, which we prefer, or do it here, if it's not going to be safe for a couple of days.
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>> fuck cnn, fuck cnn, fuck cnn! finish it! finish it! . >> madam speaker, i'm at the capitol building. i'm literally standing with the u.s. capitol police. he just informed me their best is they believe the house and the senate will be able to reconvene in roughly an hour. >> good news. >> we're going have to keep certain areas offlimits. it's basically a crime scene. there is blood outside. there is a body on one side by
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the portcocheri. >> a picture of day unlike any other in american history. we're going to be playing more exclusive footage throughout this hour. but first, we want to talk what we have just seen so far. that 17 minutes which starts off in speaker pelosi's office. her grandson watching and others watching the mob approach the capitol. you see her and others being evacuated, going ending up at fort mcnair, where they are -- nancy pelosi, speaker pelosi, even as she is being evacuated, she is urgently telling anybody who will listen that if they stop this, they will have succeeded. we will have totally failed. she is working the phones, even as she is being evacuated to insist that this process of certifying the election results
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must continue no matter what happens, and then they work the phones for hours with chuck schumer and others going -- blasting jeffrey rosen, the acting attorney general, demanding he get the president to make some sort of a statement, demanding that they start arresting protesters before they are able to get away. joining us right now is bob woodward, cnn political analyst carl bernstein. together they broke some of the biggest stories, the watergate. simply they remain prolific authors and investigative reporters and in bob's case, one of the leading chroniclers, as you've just seen. bob, you just watched this for the first time. as you reflect, what sticks out to you? >> what it tells us about donald trump, first. i mean, the idea that he was watching this. a case has been made that is provable that he's behind this. so where's the common decency?
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and then as you noted, the republican leaders, kevin mccarthy from the house, mitch mcconnell from the senate are in on this. they are meeting with pelosi and schumer. they're trying to get out of it. and what are the relations that no one had donald trump's cell phone number or knew how to get ahold of him in a way? and then i guess the third thing, which is so important, there is a moral authority, dimension to the presidency. the president has to -- as we know, somebody will get detained illegally in russia, china, iran. the president will be on the case. where was the president? the president was sitting this out and responsible.
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it's another chapter in the january 6th horror. >> carl, it's extraordinary to me to see speaker pelosi, chuck schumer, steny hoyer there talking to the acting secretary of defense saying pretend this is the pentagon, pretend this is the white house. stop giving us the runaround essentially and get people there. they need people on the ground. and nobody is calling -- it's not as if donald trump is involved in any of this. this is being led -- i mean, nancy pelosi is in charge in this one. chuck schumer is charge, steny hoyer, some of these others. >> they know that they have to save american democracy. it's really moving. you see the leaders of the democratic party, the republican party, and the vice president of the united states knowing that they have a deadline to finish this job, and you hear pelosi say, and you hear the others say if we can't get this job done by
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tonight, god know what's the consequences are. and then you think about what happened afterwards when mcconnell, when mccarthy, who had been so instrumental in this, turn around and for the next year and a half enable trump to keep saying they stole the election, and mcconnell is silent. and mccarthy is saying this investigation by the committee is a partisan witch hunt. >> and by the way, bob, you have republicans with revisionist history saying oh, you know, it wasn't so bad. they were just tourists walking through the corridors in the capitol. well, you have mccarthy there hiding in fort mcnair just like everybody else, sensibly, being brought there for their own security. mcconnell, you steve scalise there as well. any talk of oh, these were just regular tourists certainly didn't seem like the republicans believe that. there is mccarthy right there staring at the camera. he didn't seem to believe that on that day.
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>> well, of course. and mcconnell and mccarthy initially came out and denounced trump for this. and as carl rightly points out, then they have shifted their position to safe territory for republicans in the trump era. i mean, the whole thing is so absurd that it defies our grandchildren are going to be looking at footage like this and accounts of what happened, and they are going to say what the hell was going on in america? because -- and liz cheney is right. all roads lead to trump on this. and, again, what all of this shows is has he fallen into
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himself so completely that he didn't realize, he didn't care about other people at all? i mean, it is absolutely astounding behavior, and as we know from reporting, a lot of people around trump during this period felt he was in mental decline. this is another example i believe of that. >> carl, for all the criticism that gets leveled at nancy pelosi for her age or some of these other people, she's in full control here from the moment she's being evacuated, she has the big picture in mind. she knows democracy is at stake. she is not crying on the phone, screaming, saying oh my god, this is crazy. she is saying this cannot be allowed to succeed, and she is in the car saying what? this is ridiculous. how long are we going to be in these cars? we've got to get this process
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back on track. >> even before she's evacuated, you see that shot of the window. and she is aware already. sees that mob out there. and she knows that the president of the united states is a mad -- that's also through this whole thing. the people in that room know that the president of the united states is a madman. most of them do. mcconnell knows. mccarthy knows. that's underlying all of this. >> these are the most powerful people in washington other than the president who are forced to be working their flip phones, trying to rally local -- the mayor of washington, the governor of virginia and others to get national guard in. >> the apparatus of the executive branch run by the president of the united states ought to be doing. >> we got a lot more footage to show you. carl bernstein, bob woodward, thank you. more video next of congressional leaders trying to get anyone from the administration to act and send troops to take back the capitol. these remarkable
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bringing you never before seen video tonight of this country's top lawmakers under siege during the insurrection. now this next portion is different than the clip you saw before the break. this is raw video. we've added a time stamp to it, and it shows the house and senate leadership, democrats and republicans at a secure location about two miles or so from the capitol, demanding action to secure the capitol during the attack. >> okay. well, d.c. has requested the national guard, and it's been denied by dod. i'd like to know a good goddamn reason why it's been denied. i apologize. >> no, don't apologize. please. the whole capitol is rampaged. there is a picture of someone
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sitting in the chair of the senate. we've all been evacuated. there have been shots fired. we need a full national guard component now. was it denied at the purse? okay. then i won't take you. we need them fast. we've all had -- never seen anything like this. we're like a third world country here. we had to run and evacuate the capitol. 400 congressmen, 200 senators and all the staff. okay. we need help right away. thank you, secretary. bye-bye. yes, they have not denied it. i spoke to the secretary of the army. he has given the full okay to give the national guard, and he said it was not denied. i'm going to call up the f'ing secretary of dod. >> locked up and barricaded in their offices. so there is a critical situation and risk of loss of life. >> we have some senators who are still in their hideaways.
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they need massive personnel now. can you get the maryland national guard to come too? >> mr. secretary. >> yes, sir? >> obviously, prince george's county, i would call the county executive. i'm sure she'll deploy whatever we need deployed. montgomery county as well. fairfax and arlington all have very significant forces. >> yes, sir. >> we won't take any -- >> have i something to say, mr. secretary. i'm going to call the mayor of washington, d.c. right now and see what other outreach she has, other police departments leader hoyer has mentioned, and also, that we can deliver the good news that you are now going to instead of blocking the national guard, that you will -- >> i just had to get permission. it's not my personal -- i had to
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talk to my boss. >> and then did you talk to your boss? >> i did. we have the green light. i never said no. >> thank you. keep working. we need all the personnel we can get before someone gets hurt. >> yes, sir. >> okay. >> mr. attorney general, it's senator schumer and speaker pelosi. i'm going put you on speakerphone. is federal law enforcement, is the full arm of the judicial branch of the department of justice doing everything they're supposed to be doing here? have they started making some arrests? >> i don't have an update. but what i can tell you is that we're rushing from people from park police -- secret service
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and assistance from the federal police department to get as many people as quickly as we can up to the capitol to assist the capitol police. >> okay. and i want to ask you this. you know the capitol has been totally overrun? >> um. >> and do you know there are certain senators and congressmen still in their offices there? >> i heard that. >> okay. i mean, we've talked to the dod secretary and army, and they're sending military. but are you sending every federal arm available? and how about dealing with the state police. steny hoyer is here. he says the prince george's county police, other police are available. are they being called on and used? >> just had a cancel on the prince george's. i do know we are working with the capitol police to get as many resources as possible as quickly as possible. >> and are you making -- are you asking arrests be made?
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>> -- answer that. >> i would strongly recommend that you make arrests, starting now. >> they are breaking windows, and that's one of the ways that -- general, it's nancy. they're breaking windows and going in. obviously ransacking our offices and all the rest of that. that's nothing. the concern we have about personal harm. >> safety. >> personal safety is just transcends everything. but the fact is on any given day, they're breaking the law in many different ways. and quite frankly, much of it at the instigation of the president of the united states. and now if he could at least somebody -- >> why don't you get the president to tell them to leave the capitol, mr. attorney general, in your law enforcement responsibility. a public statement they should all leave. he is saying -- his tweet said
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"we are for peace." >> law and order. >> law and order. why don't you get him to make that statement. would you do that? will you ask the president to make a statement to ask them to leave the capitol? >> so as you might guess, we're -- >> no, no, please answer my question. answer my question! >> senator, i'm going to do everything i can do. >> does that include asking the president to get these people who are followers to leave the capitol? >> i'm trying to get this as great as urgency as possible. >> it's already too late for that. >> reports of this. so but i just asked forbearance. >> i'm going to give you a phone
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number. i'd like you to get back to me when you have asked the president to make a statement that they should leave, okay? here is the phone number. >> one hell of a hurry, you understand? >> got you loud and clear, leader. >> this cannot just be we're waiting for so and so. we need them there now, whoever you got, okay? >> you also have troops -- this is steny hoyer. >> so we have a little bit of time to make that decision. >> other military base. >> all right, thanks. >> including national guards. all the people who are sworn to protect and defend the constitution. >> been on the phone with the secretary of the army. >> the 1100. >> it's been an hour and 30 minutes, about two hours since it started. >> how soon in the future can you have the place evacuated and pulled together, cleaned out? >> i don't want to speak for the
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leadership that's responsible for executing the operation. so i'm not going to say that. they're on the ground and they're the experts. >> well, just pretend, just pretend for a moment it was the pentagon or the white house or some other entity that was under siege. and let me say you can logistically get people there as you make the plans. it's just that we need numbers and personhood, manhood, whatever you are calling it, we need people there. and you can't wait around until you plan and figure out where they are so they can get to it. just get them there. >> this is an emergency is the bottom line. it's an emergency where life and limb are at stake. >> and you have your leadership of the national guard there. they have not been given the authority to be activated. >> they have been activated. they've been activated, speaker. >> a remarkable never before
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seen images behind the scenes at fort mcnair where they've been evacuated. life and limb are at stake he said near the end. joining us now one of the lawmakers who nearly came face the face with that danger, colorado democratic congressman and retired army ranger jason crow, comforting congresswoman susan wild in the house gallery with the mob outside trying to break down the doors. congressman, i appreciate you being with us. you saw the video for the first time. given all you went through that day, give us your thoughts over what is going on over at fort mcnair? >> well, anderson, i have a lot of thoughts right now. it certainly brings back a lot of memories about how serious and dire that night was. how depraved the former president is, donald trump, how dangerous he is, how much he lied to people and weaponized people who were misinformed, who were angry and then pointed that weapon at the u.s. capitol to try to overturn election, how little he cares about our
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democracy, but also shows leadership. that day we saw some of the worst of america. but we also saw some of the best of america. and one of the things those videos don't show is how amazing the capitol police were and the first responders who were brutally beaten, some of whom were killed, and some of whom have lifetime injuries and mental health issues as a result of this who held back that mob, that insurrection long enough for me and others to escape and get out. truly a lot of heroism that day, and how much that stands in contrast to the depravity, to that mob and to president trump in trying to overturn an election. >> it does sort of shock me looking at this video how on a day like this, where democracy is hanging in the balance, it is up to the people in this room over at fort mcnair, nancy pelosi, speaker pelosi, and chuck schumer and the others on their flip phones just trying to reach out to anybody who can get
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national guard troops. it just seems there's got to be a better system, that it comes down to just people working the phones who happen to have the right phone numbers to call. that's -- obviously in the ideal world, you would have a president and a white house that was on top of things that had an orderly process to call in national guard. but this is what happens when the white house is out of the picture. >> well, it's crazy. it's astonishing, isn't it? to see what was actually happening and the fact that we weren't prepared, we didn't have systems in place. we had incredible leadership out of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi that night, trying to pull things together. understanding what was going on in the magnitude of it and how important it was that we reconvened and we finished the work that night and we not let the will of the voters and the people be derailed. but we certainly weren't ready. nobody in a million years ever thought we would be in that position. but that's the story of donald trump's presidency, the story of
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our country realizing how vulnerable we really are. our country realizing that when you talk about democracy, this is not systems. these are not documents. these are not processes that protect us. what democracy actually is is people deciding to uphold it, day in and day out. and if they stop deciding to uphold it, it starts to unravel. and the other really important point of all of this is that this is not over. this is not a history lesson. this is not an exercise in reviewing historical facts about our country. this is going on. donald trump is still doing this. he is telling the big lie. he is inciting extremism. the extremism that we saw on that day has been deepening in america. it's dangerous, and the question before the american people in the next month, frankly, is whether or not we're going to send members of that mob,
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insurrectionists to the united states congress and to city council chambers, into state legislatures around the country? because they're on the ballot literally in the next 30 days. >> yeah. >> this is a dangerous thing, and it's time for us to wake up and to make sure it doesn't happen. >> and while congressional leaders were at fort mcnair working the phones, trying to do whatever they could to keep democracy running and certify the vote, the president was at the white house watching this all on tv in his dining room, not doing anything. and mark meadows, listening to the testimony of cassidy hutchinson, rocking back and forth, just streaming on his phone, going to a special place in his head, having a meltdown of sorts. it's just extraordinary to see these images. congressman crow, i appreciate your time tonight. still to come, more of this never before seen footage from january 6th, this time showing vice president pence's leadership that day as he communicated with top lawmakers about securing the capitol.
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as a teacher living and working in san francisco, the cost of housing makes living and working here really difficult. proposition d is the only measure that speeds up construction of affordable new homes by removing bureaucratic roadblocks. so teachers, nurses, firefighters and workers like us can live where we work. while prop e makes it nearly impossible to build more housing join habitat for humanity in rejecting prop e, and supporting prop d to build more affordable housing for everyone. talk to anyone in san francisco and they'll tell you now is not the time to make our city even more expensive by raising taxes. san francisco has one of the largest city budgets in america. yet when it comes to homelessness and public safety, we're not getting results. what we really need are better policies, more accountability, and safer neighborhoods. vote no on propositions m and o. the last thing we need are higher taxes, especially right now. now is not the time to raise taxes in san francisco. vote no on m and o.
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we have one more selection in this new never before seen footage from january 6th. we want to show you tonight. you saw a small portion. but earlier in the clip the january 6th committee played a small portion of it today. but this is a larger piece. it involves the role played on january 6th by vice president pence. the vice president was basically doing the job of the president that day, because the sitting president had in essence gone awol. not just from a decision making standpoint. as bob woodward put it earlier, the presidency has a moral component, and that went missing too. this video is a phone call that occurred about 6:00 p.m. the day of the attack. >> i'm at the capitol building. i'm literally standing with the chief of police of the u.s. capitol police. he just informed me what you
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will hear through official channels, paul irving, sergeant at arms will inform that their best estimation is they believe that the house and the senate will be able to reconvene in roughly an hour. they also confirmed to me they have thousands of law enforcement. they're confident that they can secure the premises, and that paul irving, madam speaker, is going to communicate to you. he is your point of contact on security at the house. >> your sergeant at arms? >> will explain the process for reentering. but stephen has told me the chief of police, the capitol police will be in the members will be nay position to reconvene the house in roughly an hour. >> got it. senate as well? senate as well? >> house and senate?
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>> yeah. i just communicated -- i'm going to give senator schumer a call. >> we're exempt. >> i'm here. i'm here. i'm here, mr. vice president. >> the senator is also here. >> i'm just giving you a heads up. you know, i was very pleased to hear from the chief. we think we'll be able to reconvene the senate, and madam speaker, you'll be able to reconvene the house in roughly an hour. >> good news. >> the sergeant at arms will be in touch about the process for getting members back in the building. >> i'm going to go crp. >> right. okay. >> i said, why are we here? thank you very much, mr. vice president. good news. i'll see you in an hour. >> thousands of law enforcement
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on the campus, and they're confident they can secure the campus for reconvene. >> thank you very much, mr. vice president. >> i hope that's helpful. >> that's very helpful. thank you. we look forward to seeing you in an hour or two. thank you. bye bye. >> joining me now to discuss what we just watched, david axelrod, who served as senior adviser to president obama. you know about security calls, having worked in the obama administration. what went through your mind as you're seeing this footage of the congressional leadership trying to manage the crisis? >> yes, i've had experience. no one's had experience like this. we've never seen anything like it before. what was striking was them working as one. there seems to be -- everybody instantly understood that we've got to get back in there and finish this. we can't get run off by the mob. and that was republicans and
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democrats. that was the first thing that struck me. but the other thing was having worked on the other end of pennsylvania avenue, you know, i'm thinking about the president of the united states sitting there. it would have been unthinkable. nancy pelosi said what i was thinking. if there were the pentagon or the white house, there would be instantly there would be the manpower necessary to restore. we saw what happened -- now, it was a different kind of thing -- but when the president wanted to do a photo op at the church, they cleared lafayette park pretty quickly. so, you know, i -- it's stunning. it's really, really stunning to see. >> nancy pelosi happened to say to the acting secretary of defense, well, imagine this were the pentagon or imagine this were the white house and how wick quickly you would get troops there. she's talking about capitol hill. >> what's very evident in that video is shock, frustration, the
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idea that you could be calling cabinet member after law enforcement member and get this sort of bureaucratic response, instead of a call to action, which seems very obvious. and it underscores something liz cheney said in her hoping statement that at points there were people who said no or slow walked or declined some request from the white house. and the take away lesson could be for donald trump or the next person who attempts this that you just need to install the right person in the right seat who will say yes, who won't just not take the phone call or stumble on the phone call, but will actively disregard. and i think that's really significant thing to think about because it means it doesn't matter, this kind of overwhelming of the capitol police, et cetera. the next time around, it could just be a cake walk through the actual process. >> that's actually the story of this whole saga, is we learned just how important people of good will in these positions
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means to avoid a catastrophe in preserving the institutions of -- >> and i love good will. but a stress test is a stress test. and this showed that the system had some very serious problems, never mind the fact this was sheer chaos, right? and i have to say, the thing that shocked me is seeing the number of republicans who were in that room, people who later on were only too happy to not vote for impeachment or to speak out against even this house select committee process. >> and to hear vice president pence at that point certainly rise to the occasion and be calm and stay on scene and help -- >> well, and we've heard these -- yes. and he of course understood that he was the principle target, along with pelosi, of this mob. and so, yes, he's collected. and he to, too, apparently had t same determination that we're not going to be run off by this. the other thing, anderson, when
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you see the aggregation of all this footage, it really underscores, again, how close we came to a complete tragedy, to having the leadership of this country decapitated at the instigation, certainly as the president of the united states stood by and watch on television. >> the personal nature of the attacks against speaker pelosi, against vice president pence, there's no doubt what the mob would have done to either of them had they been able to catch them. >> i think that's why the lawmakers were so focused on getting back to the work of doing the peaceful transfer of power because there was no doubt on that day what the delay was supposed to be. no one said, oh, that rally really got out of hand. for months and weeks we had been hearing the president ramp up his rhetoric. so on that day, even i think pelosi's daughter filming, it speaks to the idea that lots of people were worried about what would happen on january 6. >> watching pence and pelosi and
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their determination in the face of those threats was impressive. they were focused on their responsibilities. and that was encouraging. >> from the moment they're being evacuated, they're talking about getting back in. they're not freaking out. they're not, you know, calling their friends. they're saying, we've got to -- we can't let this stand. >> yes. >> david axelrod, audrey cornish, thank you so much. a note on a additional video you haven't seen yet when we come back. elling people how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only papay for what you need. showtime. whoo! i'm on fire tonight. (limu squawks) yes! limu, you're a natural. we're not counting that. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ bipolar depression. it made me feel trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of bipolar depression. i justouldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar deession
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fanduel and draftkings, two out of state corporations making big promises. what's the real math behind prop 27, their ballot measure for online sports betting? 90% of profits go to the out of state corporations permanently. only eight and a half cents is left for the homeless. and in virginia, arizona, and other states, fanduel and draftkings use loopholes to pay far less than was promised. sound familiar? it should. vote no on prop 27. naomi: every year the wildfires, the smoke seems to get worse. jessica: there is actual particles on every single surface. dr. cooke: california has the worst air pollution in the country. the top 2 causes are vehicles and wildfires.
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prop 30 helps clean our air. it will reduce the tailpipe emissions that poison our air kevin: and helps prevent the wildfires that create toxic smoke that's why calfire firefighters, the american lung association, and the coalition for clean air support prop 30. naomi: i'm voting yes on 30. before we go, i want to thank alexander pelosi and the entire team at our sister network hbo for providing us with this extraordinary video we saw tonight. if you want to see again, you can find it at c p cnn.com. there is more exclusive video we'll bring you tomorrow night on the program, including a second phone call between speaker nancy pelosi and vice president mike pence. discussion about moving the entire election certification process. hundreds of lawmakers and al