our air. it will reduce the tailpipe emissions that poison our air kevin: and helps prevent the wildfires that create toxic smoke that's why calfire firefighters, the american lung association, and the coalition for clean air support prop 30. naomi: i'm voting yes on 30. before we go, i want to thank alexander pelosi and the entire team at our sister network hbo for providing us with this extraordinary video we saw tonight. if you want to see again, you can find it at c p cnn.com. there is more exclusive video we'll bring you tomorrow night on the program, including a second phone call between speaker nancy pelosi and vice president mike pence. discussion about moving the entire election certification process. hundreds of lawmakers and all to

the secure location where the leaders were hunkering down. that will be tomorrow night on "360." right now, "cnn tonight" with right now, "cnn tonight" with jake tapper. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome back to "cnn tonight." i'm jake tapper. knock, knock, knock, donald trump, you've been served. that's about to happen at mar-a-lago, presumably, after members of the january 6th house select committee voted unanimously and a touch theatrically to subpoena donald trump for testimony and documents. it's all part of their case that trump not only tried to overturn democracy in 2020 with fraud, lies, threats, and violence, but that trump continues to do so. >> we are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion. and every american is entitled to those answers so we can act now to protect our republic.

>> today's hearing included never-before-seen video of congressional leaders, democrats and republicans who are had been evacuated from the capitol by law enforcement to the security of a local army base. law enforcement seeking to protect them from the harm many of the insurrectionists seemed determined to cause them, perhaps especially speaker nancy pelosi. [ crowd chanting, nancy! >> nancy, nancy, they're shouting in that clip. you can see democrats and republicans huddled together, working together, calling the national guard, calling the pentagon, trying to get someone to stop the violence. >> they're breaking the law in many different ways. and quite frankly, much of it at the instigation of the president of the united states. and now if he could at least somebody --

>> yeah, why don't you get the president to tell them to leave the capitol, mr. attorney general, in your law enforcement responsibility, a public statement they should all leave. >> that public statement they should all leave would not come for more than three hours after the first insurrectionists crossed the barriers. the violence should not have been a surprise, however, to members of the u.s. secret service, who we learned today had been warned more than ten days before that the insurrection was coming, including this tip passed on from the fbi to the secret service, detailed today by committee member adam schiff. >> the source went on to say their plan is to literally kill people. please, please, take this tip seriously and investigate further. >> and that was hardly the only warning. we learned today that secret service agents were reporting people in the crowds likely had

weapons, reporting that more than 30 minutes before president trump took the stage at the ellipse. but we guardless, the rally went on, even though people had weapons. we know these rioters were angry, incited by months of trump and his allies' lies about a stolen election. and we saw jason miller bragged to then-white house chief of staff mark meadows that he, quote, got the base fired up, unquote. miller included a link to a pro-trump website, underneath which individuals had posted comments about their plans for january 6th, comments like these. >> gallows don't require electricity. if the filthy maggots try to push their fraud through, there will be hell to pay. our lawmakers in congress can leave one of two ways, one in a body bag. two, after rightfully certifying trump the winner. >> jason miller told the

committee he did not realize those comments were on the link that he sent meadows. but even if that's true -- if -- i find it impossible to imagine that anyone who worked for trump by january 6, 2021, was unaware of the potential for violence, especially among a base that was fired up. because even before trump ran for office, he loved, he embraced, the imagery of violence and brutality, suggesting in 1989 that five black men, the so-called central park five, be given the death penalty. he continued to argue that even after the central park five had been freed and exonerated years later. trump, of course, jumped into the faux violence of pro wrestling. >> any guy that can do a body slam, he's my kind of -- >> but as a presidential

candidate, trump clearly relished the idea of real violence, instigating his supporters repeatedly to commit violence against protesters who hated trump. >> knock the crap out of him, would you? seriously? okay. just not the hell -- i promise you, i will pay for the legal fees. i promise. i promise. >> it was like that almost every rally, it seemed. in 2016, the violence at his rallies got so bad, one sunday i found myself basically pleading with donald trump to stop it. >> you are not taking down the temperature. you are, in the views of many of your fellow republicans, making things worse, inciting, encouraging violence. >> my fellow republicans -- excuse me, excuse me. my fellow republicans are running against me. they are losing big league. >> not really the point i was trying to make. and the violence continued. so, i asked him about it again

at a presidential debate in miami, march 2016. >> do you believe that you've done anything to create a tone where this kind of violence would be encouraged? >> i hope not. i truly hope not. >> you can judge for yourself how much he truly hoped not. after months of election lies, fast forward to december 2020. a republican election official in georgia also found himself pleading with donald trump to stop. >> someone's going to get hurt. someone's going to get shot. someone's going to get killed. >> on january 6, all of that happened. someone got hurt, someone got shot, someone got killed. and what was donald trump doing during that period? >> when you were in the dining room in these discussions, was the violence at the capitol visible on the screen on the television? >> yes. >> it was my understanding he was watching television.

>> i think he was watching the tv. >> watching tv. watching tv. moments, such as this one. >>. [ crowd chanting, hang mike pence ] >> hang mike pence. testimony suggests that trump told aides that perhaps the mob was right, that pence should be hanged. and now we must confront the case being made by the committee that the violence on january 6 was not just an unfortunate happenstance, that it was part of the plan, that it is now a trump tactic. >> there are a lot of members of congress that i think voted against impeachment because they were scared for their family and for themselves. what does that mean? it means threats of violence worked. >> a recent "new york times" study suggests that in the five years after trump was elected, quote, the number of recorded

threats against members of congress increased more than tenfold, against democrats and republicans. and it's not just members of congress. since june of last year, the fbi's new elections threat task force has received more than 1,000 reports of threats against election workers. election workers, you know, the people, many of them over the age of 60, paid little or nothing to make sure you get to exercise your right to vote, the sweet old grandmas that hand you an i voted sticker afterwards. the for doing their part in democracy, they get phone calls like this one. >> we will [ bleep ] take you out. [ bleep ] your family, [ bleep ] your life, watch your [ bleep ] back. >> where are these threats taking place? well, the bulk of them are the in just these seven states, arizona, colorado, pennsylvania, georgia, michigan, wisconsin.

all of those states, all seven, battleground states that trump lost to biden. six of them states where trump and his allies tried to create slates of fraudulent electors to throw out the legitimate votes cast in 2020. i want to introduce you to clair woodall. she's the executive director of elections in milwaukee, wisconsin. and among the dozens and dozens and dozens of threatening messages she received, a few of them stick out to her. >> a lot of the emails called me a bitch, a whore, all because i did my job and made sure the city of milwaukee's ballots were counted. >> she now reasonably believes she's a target for violence. >> there are crazy people out there. while it might just be them blowing off steam, it's clear they believe it. i think only someone who truly believed it would act on it. >> some of these unhinged people have regrettably acted on it.

after the fbi seized classified documents that trump had improperly taken to mar-a-lago, an armed man tried to storm the fbi office in cincinnati, ohio, in august. he had reportedly posted on social media the same day encouraging others to prepare for war. this is the level of insanity. and we're still 26 days away from the midterm elections. what happens after november 8th if the outcome is not what some of these fringe voters hope for? >> if republicans don't win in 2022, if it gets stolen again, confidence in the entire system is just going to erode america. it will lead to trouble. it will lead to civil war. it will start on small level, town against town, state against state. i don't want to see it, but if it comes, we'll fight. >> town against town, state against state. it's not just guys hawking trump t-shirts talking about actual

bloodshed. americans killing americans because a bunch of these believe these deranged lies about the election. we knew that in the weeks after the trump lost the election, retired lieutenant general michael flynn, donald trump's first national security adviser, met with trump and talked about trump giving an order to seize voting machines. and that's not where flynn's unhinged ideas ended. >> did you know that a governor can declare war? governor can declare war, okay? and we're going to probably -- we're going to probably see that. >> it's a deranged virus. and it's going viral from the deep corners of the dark web onto main stream sites such as twitter, where experts tell cnn they've seen a surge of posts about civil war in recent weeks. after the mar-a-lago search, one post in a trump online forum stated, i'm just going to say it. attorney general merrick garland needs to be assassinated, simple

as that. another said, kill all feds. and all of this is probably why in a recent poll 64% of you said you expect to see increase in political violence in the u.s. over the next few years. you're right to have those fears. at least i hope they're just fears and not desires. i mean, some polling suggests americans are more willing than ever before to support violence as a legitimate way to further one's political goals. according to the carnegie endowment for international peace, u.s. levels are fast-approaching support for political violence the level seen in northern ireland in 1973 during that country's most violent period of political violence between catholics and protestants. i'd love to tell you there's no reason to be worried. but after today, after all these hearings, it is clearer than ever that the threat is real, the danger remains, and that

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pelosi and senate leader schumer and others were working the soldiers, trying to get national guardsmen and women to rush to the capitol to stop the violence and bloodshed. here's a other closer look at those moments. >> okay. d.c. has requested the national guard and it's been denied by dod. i'd like to know a good gdamn reason they're not here. i apologize. >> no, don't apologize. >> we also have troops -- this is steny hoyer. andrews air force base. >> thanks, paul. bye. >> national guard, all the people who are sworn to protect and defend the constitution. >> joining us now is one of the republican members on the january 6 committee, congressman adam adam kinzinger of illinois. congressman, thank you so much

for being here. tell us why you think that's significant of pelosi and schumer and others trying to get the capitol some protection. >> if you're a conspiracy theorist, they've been believing this was all set up. i'm sure they're going to say this was a fake video or something now. but what that shows is in the midst of that chaos, the focus was on how do we defend the capitol, yes. how do we get back to work? this is a constitutional imperative that we certify this election. how do we bring enough people in to take control of the capitol again and do that? the conspiracy theorists have said, again, we basically invited them in. we wanted this to happen somehow. doesn't make sense. this video showed today how intense really that battle was from a congressional leadership perspective, not sitting there waiting for events to happen but proactively trying to get this job done. >> i don't know where mccarthy and scalise and stefanik, the three house republican leaders were during that period. i imagine they were somewhere safe as well.

they've all been pushing the idea that pelosi is somehow to blame for what happened, that she didn't do enough that day. of course it's just a way for them to deflect from talking about trump. do you see pelosi right there? >> that's the thing. kevin mccarthy, the biggest disappointment of a congressman that i know. not because of what he said or done. it's because he knows better. he said it, like a week after january 6th. he said the truth. and then that power, that star in his eyes, he has to become a speaker. when i see him talking about that or i see any republican saying the problem is the capitol wasn't secured enough. that's something we're looking at. that's like blaming somebody who had a home invasion because they didn't lock the front door. it's insane, and it's a deflection. and the only people that don't see right through that are those that choose to see right through that because they don't want to look at january 6 and see the truth. >> the big action today by the committee was voting unanimously to subpoena donald trump for

testimony and records. do you think that he's actually going to testify? >> we'll have to see. i know he should. the requirement now is for him, as a former president, he has the same rule ls as any americans, you or i. if you're subpoenaed by congress, you come in and testify. you know, but i think it's important for us, as we've taken this investigation, we've got as many of the pieces as we can together, we're very clear there are people that won't come in and talk to us. at the end of this congress, this committee ends. this is donald trump's doing. and when this even started, i even -- you know, did he not know what was happening? did people around him do this? it is very clear that he knew what he was doing. he wanted to stay in power. and now we want to hear from him. >> there was some suggestions today at the hearing that some individuals of the secret service, the u.s. secret service, haven't told your committee the truth about whether or not there were any threats ahead of the

insurrection. you showed evidence that there were some passed on by the fbi and others. and also other misrepresentations. tell me more about that. >> look, i don't know what's going on in the secret service. whether it's cultural issues, whether it's this desire to maintain secrecy. we know about the text messages that disappeared despite the preservation request. you remember after cassidy hutchinson testified what she had heard, what she heard about what happened in the limo. and you had these sources coming out saying that is being disputed. we said, great, come in. never came in. they didn't come in and talk to us. there are a lot of inconsistencies we're going to continue to investigate from things people have said to evidence we have gotten. that will be either explored in the future or definitely in the report. >> a friend of mine, steve, says that we, the committee and also the news media, we're describing this wrong.

we shouldn't be calling the attack on democracy. we should be calling it an attack on the united states. because, i guess his argument is truly, you attack the capitol, you attack the democratic process, you are attacking the united states. and if it was anyone else other than trump supporters, maybe we would be calling it that. >> i think you're right. imagine if this was isis, if they did the exact same thing, it would be an attack on the united states, whether they're citizens or not. i can see it as both ways because democracy is important to defend right now. >> sure. >> one of the things i believe is democracies and the united states particularly, we're not defined by our bad days. we're going to have bad days. we're define bid how we come back from those bad days. that's what we're doing on the committee right now. we have to take a full accountability for what happened so that my kid, your kids, can come up in a country that can take accountability for its wrongs and can actually give people hope, opportunity, and prosperity. >> speaking of your kid, i have

no doubt that your kid someday will be reading in the history books about what you did. and you know, the kids of the republican who is know better, who are going along with the lie will read it too. it must be kind of lonely where you are right now, especially seeing people, fellow veterans in congress, fellow republicans, fellow conservatives -- i don't know. i mean, are you still friends with them? >> i mean, we get along. still friends with some. you know, you have to try to put that aside. but, look, if somebody truly believes all the january 6 conspiracies, i begrudge them less than my colleagues who know the truth and have a position of leadership. one in 700,000 people serve in the job i serve in. your chances of being born in another life and doing that again are zero. you have a responsibility to the constitution. not to what your district wants you to say in a time like this. your district may want you to do one other -- you swore an oath to the constitution of the

united states. and 99% of my republican colleagues are failing every day. for them, i'm sure they're afraid of what their kids are going to read in the history books. i'm proud of what my kid's going to read in the history books. and i guarantee every one of my colleagues' kids, they're going to believe what we put out there because it's going to be the truth. >> the truth. congressman adam kinzinger, republican of illinois. appreciate it. what about next time? coming up, one of the republicans on the state level praised for helping keep our democracy together despite donald trump coming at him with a suitcase full of lies and threats. georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger joins me next.

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donald trump knew he'd lost the election before he ever even picked up the phone for this phone call, the sound from which was played at today's hearing of the january 6th house hearing. >> i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> here's what the former acting deputy attorney general said under oath about what he had told trump specifically about the results in georgia and trump's conspiracy theories about the vote in georgia, including one whacked out theory about a suitcase full of

ballots. >> with regard to georgia, we looked at the tape, we interviewed the witnesses. there is no suitcase. the president kept fixating on this suitcase that supposedly had fraudulent ballots and that the suitcase was rolled out from under the table. and i said, no, sir, there is no suitcase. >> and yet, here is what trump said on the subsequent call to georgia officials. >> they weren't in an official voter box. they were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks -- suitcases. >> my next guest is a man on the other end of the line, georgia's republican secretary of state brad raffensperger. secretary of state raffensperger, thanks for joining us. you and your counsel both told trump on the call that his information about the election was wrong. now we know from the hearing today that he knew it was a lie. he had been told it was not true. now does knowing that change your recollection or view of the conversation in any way? >> well, i knew that we had the facts on our side, and that's what i told the president then.

and for the last year and a half, i've been traveling all over the state of georgia just talking to people. people would ask me, what happened in the election. i just went out and gave them the facts. i talked to everyone. i'd go anywhere and talk to any group that invited me in. i thought people needed to hear from the source. and that's what i provided with the facts. >> well, it's so interesting because trump initiating a candidate to run against you in the primary, congressman jody hice. but you and the governor, brian kemp, who also trump got somebody to run against him. you guys prevailed in your republican primaries, whereas we've seen republicans all over the country lose in their primaries. how is it that you were able to do that? >> well, number one, i had a tremendous belief in faith and just the goodness of my fellow georgians. most people are good, and that's what we found out. but also if you just calmly and rationally talk to people, give

them the fact, let them ask questions, then you answer their questions with some patience and grace, it always works out, and that's how it worked out for me. i just wanted to make sure people understood. that's what i did. i did that for over a year, just going up talking to people, giving them the information. >> just last month trump was insisting it was a, quote, absolutely perfect phone call. how would you describe that phone call? >> well, it was over an hour long. so, it was -- you know, he kept on bringing up different issues and respectfully wanted to just give him what the facts were. i wanted to make sure it was fact-based. because at the end of the day, we investigated every single allegation that was made. but we never really could nail people down. first they said there was 10,000 dead people. we found four dead people. they said that was thousands of underage voters. every allegation, we checked out. i wrote a ten-page letter to congress and made sure it was fact based. i leaned into the law and i

stood on the constitution. and i just wanted to make sure, here are what the facts are. we gave people the truth. i know for people in my party, it was hard to hear. but i wanted to make sure we did that respectfully. >> the committee focused on the call, but we know from cnn's exclusive reporting that the efforts in georgia went far, far beyond that. the bogus trump electors got access to voting systems. you announced you were replacing that equipment. how much that is the donald trump conspiracy theories, how much has that cost the people of georgia in term of money being spent to protect the next election? >> the thing that is upsetting about election deniers whether it's from the 2018 race we had or the 2020 race, it really disrupts society. it creates more tension. it polarizes people. i think by and large, i think most people are tired of the screaming and hollering. they want people to start getting things done for them. i think as elected leaders, we are called to be responsible and

to make sure we deal with people respectfully and with the facts. i've made a pledge whatever the results are in my race this fall, i will accept the results. i will accept the will of the voters. i will encourage every person that's running for elected office to make that same pledge, to abide by the results. if the race is so close and you can have a recount as allowed by state law where you can do an audit of that race, but after that process has come through, abide by the results. if you want to run again, come back again. i will abide by the results of the people of georgia. their vote is very important and i want them to know i want honest and fair elections for everyone. >> early voting in georgia begins monday. there have been reports of shortage of poll workers in some counties. do you think this is from the threats of violence from the president's former supporters. does this have a role in the shortage of workers, of people not willing to play this important role nour elections?

>> that could be one of the issues. but also after covid, many of the people that were a little bit older, they stepped out and they haven't come back. and everyone gets two years older every time you have an election cycle. by and large most of the counties have enough poll workers, but they don't have any spare. and that's an issue that we've been facing for years. and i would encourage anyone to think about becoming a poll worker. it's probably too late for this cycle, but it's something that you maybe think about two years from hence. it's great public service, and people need to understand once you become a poll worker, you understand the process. and after the election of 2020, so many people didn't understand the process. all the failsafes, all the checks, checks, and double checks to make sure that we have fair and honest elections. not just in georgia but throughout the entire country. >> how are you and your wife doing? i know it was quite an ordeal. >> yeah, we're doing fine. you know, we're looking forward to this election. this has been a long election season for us. and we're looking forward to

election day. but that's why i'm still out there campaigning, talking to people. and then we also have our job, getting ready for this election. we're expecting really strong turnout. we had 4 million people show up in 2018. we had 5 million in 2020. we don't know what exactly will be hee, but we expect strong turnout. just a lot of national issues that are weighing on people's minds right now. >> yeah, you've got a big governor's race and big senate race. secretary raffensperger, appreciate it your time, sir. between the revelations of the hearings, the subpoena, the supreme court rejection, it's hard to imagine donald trump didn't throw at least some food at the wall today. maggie haberman from the "new york times" will join me and we're going to talk about how donald trump and his loyalists are reacting to today's horrible news for donald trump. that's next.

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two days before the 2020 election, the world learned from axios' jonathan swan that then-president trump had a plan to declare premature victory regardless of the election results. turns out trump had been planning that since at least july. here's one of trump's closest allies, steve bannon, in testimony played at today's hearing. >> mark had indicated to me that

there was a possibility that there would be a declaration of victory within the white house that some might push for. and this is prior to the election results being known. >> and what trump is going to do is declare victory, right? that doesn't mean he's the winner. he's just going to say he's the winner. >> that revelation is not all that the former president is grappling with today. the u.s. supreme court rejelcte trump's request that they intervene in the mar-a-lago documents fight with the justice department. donald trump's new company is under scrutiny by new york's attorney general and vice president mike pence aide marc short was seen testifying for a second time. how is trump world reacting to all this horrible news for him? let's bring in the author of "confidence man" maggie

reporter, "new york times" number one best selling author, maggie haberman. congratulations, maggie. what are you hearing about how trump is responding to all this abysmal news that played out for him today. >> a couple things, jake, because he doesn't tend to process these kinds of legal actions the way other people might, working backwards, the revelations by his committee. most of his folks are slothing them off because they're trying to say it's old news and not surprising n. terms of the subpoena for him, that is one of the things that has animated him. he's been talking to advisers about how he would consider testifying if they would air it live, which is also not surprising. it seems hard to imagine the committee would go for that. what he is very focused on right now is the other investigations that could lead to criminal charges. that is where much of his energy is focused. for whatever reason, he is very focused on this lawsuit that's coming up next week, where he has to be deposed, where he's being sued for defamation by

a.j. carol, a woman who has accused him of rape. the elements around january 6th, he considers those baked in. everyone else does not, bit he does. >> that's interesting. do you think his lawyers would let him testify live? i mean, i can't imagine that -- i mean, it might feel good for him, but i can't imagine that making him look sane, rational, reasonable. i mean, i don't see any scenario in which he ends up looking good there. >> i think that it would be -- i also don't see a scenario where he doesn't potentially get himself into a fraud situation where he's testifying under oath. and i think it would depend on which lawyers he is listening to, jake. he has different lawyers in different cases, and he seeks them out for different things. and they are not always on the same page. >> that's the thing. he would be under oath. often when he testifies under oath, he just ends up saying, i don't recall, i don't recall, i

don't recall because he's being told by lawyers that he has to do that. but i don't think he would do that before the committee. i just can't imagine any attorney -- although, i don't know how he's picking his attorneys these days. it doesn't seem like he's exactly going to the harvard law review. so, do you think -- i mean, among these lesser attorneys who are giving him advice these days, do you think somebody would tell him, go ahead, do that, that's going to be great. >> at least one of his lawyers was sending people out today about him testifying to it and agreeing as long as the committee would let him do it live. i don't think they're all shutting him down. i think there are people who would be concerned about it, for the same reasons his lawyers were concerned about him meeting with mueller and testifying, which trump wanted to and they did not want him to for the reasons you just said. >> today testimony from cassidy hutchinson was played that gets specifically to trump's mindset. let's run some of that. >> so, he had said something to the effect of, i don't want

people to know we lost, mark. this is embarrassing. figure it out. we need to figure it out. i don't want people to know we lost. >> that was about the supreme court refusing to hear some of the crazy lawsuits that were being filed on his behalf. how much do you think fear of embarrassment one of the motivating factors behind donald trump's refusal to publicly accept the election results? that was one of his biggest fears, being embarrassed. >> i think that's one of them, jake. i think this is somebody who spent a life being raised by a man who taught him that being a loser is an incredible fraught thing. you know, you need to be a killer. you need to win. and that was something that his father got into his head over and over and over again and he surrounded himself with people who would affirm that. so, losing an election was not something that he was going to admit. i will make the point, he said the election that he won was rigged too in 2016.

this is something he says about elections. i do think a piece of it is about being embarrassed. i think ai piece of it refused to accept reality on anybody else's terms but his own. >> you heard us play sound of jacob taylor, regardless of what happened. the committee laid out evidence that it started as early as july, that plan. what is your reporting say on this, how long he was planning to just prematurely declare victory, even though he likely lost? >> it's similar, jake. he was telling people, some of his advisers, in july -- and i have reporting on this -- that he was going to -- you know, he was going to raise questions about the mail-in ballots and suggest -- because, remember, all of these rules changed around covid in 2020 in term of how people were allowed to vote. and he was going to say, you know, that this was unfair or this was wrong or this was corrupt. so, he had been talking about this and working forward this for a very, very long time. and, you know, even jonathan

schwann at axios reported, as you noted, first to report in october, trump stunned some of his advisers by announcing he was going to go up there on election night and say he won no matter what. it was clear where this was headed. >> donald trump's life is not exactly an open book, but not for lack of trying on maggie's part. is getting inside donald trump's head, is that a gift or is it a curse for maggie? or maybe is it both? we'll talk about that next. 'll , personalized plan for cash flow, even when you're not working.. a plan that includes all yoyour accounts so you can enjoy whatever comes next. that's the planning effect. from fidelity. before & bath fitter. now's the time to call bath fitter to get a beautiful "after." with our unique tub overub process, there's no mess or stress. bath fitter. it just fits. visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation. ♪ ♪

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countless people, countless, have tried to understand donald trump. but few have gotten the insight and access maggie has in her new book "mamaggie recounts trump s, quote, i love being with her. she's like my psychiatrist. you don't see yourself that way, as trump's psychiatrist, i assume. >> no, i don't think he does honestly, jake. i think he said this to flatter. it's the kind of thing he has said -- >> maggie? >> hello? jake? hello. >> i can't hear her. but i don't know if it's on my

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sorry about the technical problems. maggie haberman is back with me now. maggie, trump calling you his psychiatrist. what was your reaction to that? how do you see yourself? >> i don't think that this was a line that he actually meant, jake. it's the kind of thing he, i think, says to intend to flatter. he has yused it about a number f other interviewers. the reality is he treats everybody like they are his psychiatrist. he's working it out in front of all of us, his staff, rally goers, psuedofriends and friends in real time. >> i have to acknowledge, i say this as an admirer of your reporting and your work ethic, he attacks you all the time. even though he obviously wants and craves your respect so much.

he says things like this about you at rallies. >> who's with "the new york times." i hope it's not maggie haberman or parker because they're not legit. they don't know me.

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