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we are doing well and fabulous, jake. we appreciate the trust and hav been watching your show. all fascinating, particularly this never repeat -- never seen before footage. j, thank you. we have more special live coverage of the january subcommittee hearing in the never before seen documentary footage for picketing, i'm allison commodities. and i am else in coates. this is sienna tonight. bombshell the word for it. the committee say dispenser price for last and they voted t subpoena the former president donald trump which had to say that is kind of saving the best for less but is there already a spoiler alert is not going to show up? i think they might have som requests but i'll ask our legal experts about that but that was definitely the finale that they plant. i thought that footage was riveting and appalling. okay ps and i could have watched it for hours. i wanted and i thought to myself, what contrast between - remember the last time you hear about what donald trump was doing and what mark meadows was doing? picture it. almost golden girls picture it.
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you got mark meadows growing on his cell phone, the president o the united states not doing anything. you got nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, chuc schumer, a meanie everyone who was leadership, gathered around calling everyone. in this phone tree. that was so unbelievable to see. ps i thought they were also stunningly composed and collected p oh, yeah. i mean, really remarkable t see their converse is the sort of medieval what is the mob, th juxtaposition of those two things. we saw one of the officers. number the officer who gets muc credit as you should have for playing i, and steering them away? yeah. we saw the anger from the vantage point of what he was up against in that moment, and a lot of it we had seen some part before. but when you saw what he was up against, and trying to keep the off, i could not believe. in fact, is what we are talking about here, it's unbelievable. okay, dc has requested the
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national guard, and it's been denied by dod. i'd like to normal good ( bleep ) reason why it's been denied. apologist for being said there. no, don't apologize. core capitol rampage. there's a picture of someone sitting in this chair in the senate. we've all been evacuated. there have been shots fired we need a full national guard component now. was he denying it at first? what are you saying? okay, then i will take you get we need them fast. we all have never seen him anything like this. we are like a third world country here. we had to run interbank rate to p-uppercase-letter 400 congress and 20 senators and staf f. okay, we need help right away. okay, let's bring in our panel. we have elliott wims, olivia
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troy and david have been with u today. we have so many questions for you guys. elliott i will to view. legally what's changed now that we've seen all this? not a lot of change that ha changed legally. to paraphrase taylor zurcher, w are never ever ever seen that this one announcement before that january 6 committee. it was a powerful thing, it was congress saying that they are going to issue a subpoena to a former president of the united states but they're not going to get them to show up. number 1:00 o'clock, they don't have a ton of time. what is the recourse? how can they enforce a subpoena if he doesn't play? numeral two they can file contempt for physician and go o and adjust apartment can charge him with contempt of congress. and the just department can charge for contempt of congress. that is going to be a legal fight whether you like doctor bernard, he is going to challenge it, he has a right to chat and has a basis for it as former president of us. bureaucracy and not just in congress. you have red tape. think how long it took for bannon. when ben was referred for criminal contempt, i think it was october monday, november a grand jury, a trial in july. i mean, is not the time we're
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looking at now. one big thing to remember: you still have to give him an opportunity to not comply with the subpoena. right now they just voted on it and, look, you know he's not going to become that she's not going to comply with the subpoena. does the right answers saying i never ever ever going to come in? does he simply just blow them off? so at a minimum you got to give at least a couple days or weeks to see how it plays out. we never have seen trump ignore subpoena or not hand over documents to be never seen this even recently out of florida, right? i mean, this is the reason they probably fast track, don't you think, to go from requests to boom. rather curiously yes we haven't seen that can behavior before but the problem is you can't charge with a crime now for this until he misbehaves n now. now you know he's going to do it, we can assume he's going to do it, but you've got to wait for that to happen before you assume. out to get back to this super compelling video that we've never seen before because there were so many stunning moments that are just jaw-dropping. you wrote them when just seeing all the top lawmakers in the country together in one circle, republicans, democrats, everybody from scalise to nancy
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pelosi to. to kevin mccarthy. all their talking to the secretary of defense about what to do. so let me play this a moment . we are in one hell of a hurry, do you understand? loud and clear, leader. this cannot just be where way for so-and-so. we need them there now, whateve you've got. or the white house or some other entity that was under siege. if you can logistically get people there -- and if you hav e
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the national guard there, they have not been given the authority to activate. on data point, i mean, presentist the pentagon or the white house, i mean, you had a government building under siege. imagine it was that what would have happened? that is the question everyone goes back to, why was this so striking? in your background you already know that whatever inactivated. they would have had a plan in motion and they still would hav sent people right away, right? yeah, absolutely. this would have bothered me fro day one actually when i woke up the monday of january 6 and saw no fencing, no layout, with all the fence online. and today was confirmation when all that commission was going from the secret service where
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they rescinded these messages. o leade country on the phone realtime begging for help, basically. why? will talk to congress and coming up about this. so it was a secret service thing? look, this is -- there are people who are far more interesting about the mpi had this mission was to pass on to the secret service. that goes across chat boards to the metropolitan treatment, us capitol police work secret service. i mean, everybody in dc news wa coming, right. so step-up lease but this shoul have been a part of the generating hearings, why weren' we better prepared for this, right? you are an expert in homeland security. why were they better prepared? so here's the thing: it wa not an intelligence failure, right. the intelligence with all their people all of the tolls were there. it was a failure to act upon th intelligence pso wired the capitol point prepared? that might be part of the report as well. i mean, obviously we talk about a report, it's a television medium that they're using, they intentionally are trying to use that with you and -- they want to get as many people to push back. as you recall hearing from hurricane ian, to get as many times and focused on this priority they may have oversigh
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function but just take a step back and think about what we were seeing. not one of the people we mentioned was the commander-in-chief? i mean, your people out there that kept saying these words at the instigation of the presiden of the united states. and i kept thinking what secret service? are they implying they were als against the officers, that they knew the information and didn't do anything about it? do they want to see this happen? and why would that be? i don't think secret service failed, i don't think was a pai of intelligence, isaac was a failure of planning they are calling christopher miller secretary of defense. it's not like he's sitting at the pentagon with soldiers and uniform -- by the way, soldiers are there to fight royals not t do policing actions. the national guard had that r role. there is a failure on many places here. listen, that tape is just absolutely mind-boggling. this generates a committee, the could have just played that and sat back and not said anything. that had to serve them very w well. you think it would have bee more effective? what you think you change difference between not having witnesses? wait a minute, all 40
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minutes plus, all hour long. it is hard to know what resonates with people. to some extent like you said laura, what we are building towards a bill report -- big report that builds out the fact of the day like getting back to your point david, i feel like w in america look up prior to january 6, we woke up i frankly generating content and 11 thinking things can happen in your so america and i think planning failures since the fac that we just simply did not think this kind of thing could happen, and did not think that people actually turn the cap capitol, and rubbing feces on the walls, and all of these salacious fact that have come out. i think part of that is i think our sense of safety that we sor of break into us as americans that got broken that day. i just want to talk about one human moment that the tapes reveal, and it is once again left and right, democrats and republicans trying to figure ou how to survive and how they are going to keep democracy intact. and this is the moment first, pelosi is talking to me.
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hussprame and she is saying, ar you okay? it is a shared moment for humanity. are you sick, are you okay, be careful. don't tell anybody where yo are. yeah. let's play that. give me your thumb. all right, mr. vice president mckay we are okay, where he was mr. schumer, ms ms. mcconnell, the leadership the house and senate. and how are you? oh, my goodness, where are you? god bless you. are you in a very safe -- well, it is still not safe enough first to go back. we've been told it could take days to clear the capitol, and that we should moving everyone here to get the job done. we have -- ( bleep ) for the house and senate facilities to meet peak we would rather go to the capitol and do it there but it does not seem to be safe.
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we've gotten very report that the conditions on the house floor mystification and all tha kind of thing -- with defecatio and that kind of thing. okay, i worry about you being a net capitol building. the cause is under invest investigation. don't let anybody know where yo are. there is so much there, laura. there is so much there. i worry about you, god bless y you, i'm going to eat a slim ji now. he is still in the garage, still the capitol, still there. there so much in that mo moment, olivia. and, of course, you know vp pants very well and the fact that having this human moment when everything is going to h hell. yeah, and her comment, and what i saw there was leadership. i sent them to leaders talking to each other in a moment of crisis supporting each other, sending the right messages to each other, checking at each other and saying it was kind of
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we are going to get through t this, are you okay. it didn't matter. politics and that moments did not matter. that is the way should be. there is a kind of person i hav seen with leaders and cabinet members i worked with. in that moment, it is really about how do we get through thi together, whereas entrepreneurs checked out and cheering these people on. i think that is so striking. and imaginary get this footage. it is important to be what we have this inside perspective is it was captured by the daughter of nancy pelosi who was a well-known documentarian. she happened to be there trying to capture the moment that we expect to have a peaceful transfer of power. a peaceful transfer of po power. and that is why we have it right here. it's unbelievable. i wish they would spice a bit more of the mike pence side of it because mike pence had to evacuate. secret service was very concerned about him. any sum from this footage -- an was a part of this, he is down there and come back to policy and said mark kinnison i've talked to the subsidence, i've
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talked to everybody. we've got this clear. i mean, he kind of takes charge right. yep. and you are asking where th present? well, mike pence was correcting as the president. after break we must want to talk about. we also want to hear from you. you go to hear your thoughts on this never before seen jerry si video. and, of course, if there is anything to say to laura and me you can lead us. well, not anything. obviously -. keep it within reason. we'll be right bac k
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unit is amazed to see these new videos. i mean, it really is, thinking about what was actually like a democrat, for the republicans who were working together, i might add, to keep the government functioning, to actually perform the role that they were supposed to play on that day while an attack was playing on the capitol against law enforcement, when they were trying to prevent this peac peaceful -- peaceful -- positio power. as we have come to know here in the united states and who do nothing to stop them in these videos, and to the presentation of evidence, the president of the united states, the commander-in-chief to be we are all back. is unbelievable where we are .
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it's also what i was struck by was how close he came -- it came to that happening. there were moments there when nancy pelosi and sandy hoyer an chuck schumer don't think it's going to happen that day. where's the it? the vote. they don't think is a vacation going to happen which he says we are being told will get back in there for maybe weeks there is so much damage, think it's not going to happen. and then there is a moment when talking about before, so spring up where my present pats called them and give them what they described as incredibly good news. so here is that moment. stay with the us capitol police and vision for me the information they believe that the house and the senate will b able to to reconvene in roughly an hour. good news. and what a comfort. what a relief. round of applause for mike pence. why that was so important because because she was walking at one point, nancy pelosi saying, you know -- i am paraphrasing, if we don't get this done, we will have failed.
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it will have been a complete victory for them. and in that moment just getting it there. remember you know pais refused to leave the capitol. they want to this image and i think i have the united states because the world by now is watching that they had to stay there and get the job done. in fact, there is -- there is another clip earlier when sh says -- i am paraphrasing but w need to have a show of strength we need to show that i am paraphrasing but the continuity of government. this is back to the other point we are talking about a bit earlier, this idea that things happened in america expect to happen like chuck schumer said, third world country, using the term that he used. if we saw this happen anywhere else in the world, all of our mistress to all of our social networks, would have been blessing them for that kind of comment. but have been the doubt united states. so traditional power is the homework of our nation, mistake of a hallmark of our nation. republican eight of you, i'm curious about this people you see my present pais stayed ther because it had to be done, ther is also remote in the thought
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that you interpreted where they said mix one system to show mitch mcconnell knows inputs of it being done. all the leaders that we here knows inputs are being -- it getting done. and then to see devolution wher camden county doesn't oppose this bill for january 6, he seems to have amnesia about som parts of that night. how do you explain that. look i think separating the committee from what happened actually, the committee i think is a very partisan -- the committee that. how would you want to get t the bottom of it? i understand people listen, they could do a lot of differen ways. the committee should have been like a 911 commission where there is -- it is bipartisan, there's a lot of different . [ multiple speakers. ]. they were trying for that. they did. listen, i sat there the molar mitigation and two impeachments and so this is -- the problem is when you cry wol so many times in the will shows up like it did and generate six americans don't . the will shut off. let me counterpoint that. if i commit an act of arson today robbery next week, nothin
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less than a week after that, he can't say that, well, uniphase four different investigations and they don't make sense, and they also blur together. each of them is typically is a serious event in the mueller investigation, once . does the associate didn't exist. it didn't exist. weird more about the muelle report and the steel dossier. it was built on the lies . it seemed like i flexion to me. destruction, i'll take a jerry six is a serious serious episode. yes, but the mueller rep report -- this is where i want to be very clear: i am and try to compartmentalize and i want to make it seem like there aren't moments who have actuall valid points to talk about thei criticism. but what you saw and jerry six is a very different matter in the mueller probe ppp is absolutely confessed my output too. but you are not making that point. while point is generate six
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self-injurious -- serious date and if we didn't have these preceding sham political impeachments . [inaudible]. that's why he didn't want t put the paper he saw as another extension of politics. and so i think. i think the three of us hav worked for elected official before, and getting back to thi question of the human moment between politicians, right. there is a lot of theater and artifice when politicians water and put on a show, and an activity because, mccarthy was frightened of his base and how they would have revolted on him that that is what led to the change of heart. i think but -- when the doors are closed i think there's private conversations we have all been privy to. again, if you don't this if we go back to genesis investigatio get this particular thing where persuade political and partisan i don't think that -- pretty america would agree. here's one for the rose garden for second. talk about the idea of how the parties come to play, watch thi and tell me what you think. this was a fraudulent election. but we can't play into the hand of these people. we have to have peace.
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so go home. we love you. your very special. so we should let them off the hook basically? we sure statement making that saying he's got to make a statement and he comes up with this bs. insurrection. it's a crime and he's guilty of it. [ crowd loudly chanting]. we love you, your very special. why is this a mueller -- bu my point, why did this remind you to bring up the mueller probe keychain because we talke about this and said what do you think mccarthy didn't comply with this and participate with this? because mccarthy and in the republicans see this as another political . let's be clear.
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the people did that what you just saw are criminals and they should be prosecuted, and they are going to be prosecuted. they should go to jail, right? full stop. can i say something about that from initial security standpoint? when i am sitting here listenin to this? that actually gives me great concern going forward with having ramekins in office an and leadership if that's how they view what's basically a domestic terrorism attack on ou soil. and they are not going to investigate it because it's a political game show and sham an is partisan or whatever? that really worries me about th future. because when we talk about this as partisan it's like a line from animal farm, all animals are equal but some are more equal than others? well, semi- focus are equal but some are more republicans than is because really is a bipartisan committee. david whether we like . i hear you. when we like net listing or perkins like that ms. ch ms. cheneyand#gconfigured to play partyline on this issue, they are republicans. and this idea that in order to be our poking, one ought to be fully lockstep with donald tr trump's -- look at another
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public preserve i think is toxi to the party. i agree please enter the american political. look at there was a dispute with trump. trips said he got mad mccarthy for not putting more republican committee ppq to more people on it to dissipate and have a defense. i think it would have been -- america would have been better served if there was a robust khadija republicans on this panel will calve causing them t have their c, had their day and then maybe mccarthy went to participate in. maybe but they made their choice. he had his day. listen, he may show up. he could. don't underestimate this guy, h may show up. on that note, that is very interesting. how did the committee decide to subpoena donald trump? and how will they enforce it? person and ownership is here live with us. adamam schiff is here live with
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after all this there are bi questions about what is going t come next at the generations committee has voted to subpoena the former president of the united states. we learned a lot today from the brain reverence that can be uncovered and told the american people today, congressman adam schiff laying out some of the very damning details. before january 6th the president senior advisors at th department of justice and fbi, for example, received an intelligence summary that included material indicating that certain people coming to washington were making plans to attack the capitol. the summary noted online calls to occupy federal buildings, frederick about invading the capitol building. norquist said during one of these calls were, "the greatest threat is a direct assault on the capitol. their plan to literally kil people keeping our lawmakers in
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congress -- and congress can lead one of two's: one in a body bag, two after rightly certifying trump, the winner. peter carlson adam schiff joins us now. congressman, i have to say, whe i was watching this and seeing this unfold and seeing the text messages that e-mails, the fact that there is advance notice, for the secret service, i couldn't believe that this was known and was not a, preve prevented -- prevented but b they didn't want to bring the president of the united states and some point over this area. what are the next steps now tha we've got to subpoena voted on? are you going to try to get mor people aside from the four presented talk about this? first of all you are actually right, it is really shocking when you see in vivid detail the information the secret service had. cannot we generally about the violence intended and targeted at the capitol, but also their
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own protect these, and most particularly the vice president of the united states, and that they would even entertain or allow the president to entertai for hours the idea that he was going to go to the capitol with this armed mob is really very startling. yes, we intend to bring people back in from the secret service. some who may have to find a way that we don't find credible kno we have obtained this documentary evidence. but other witnesses potentially that we haven't heard from as well. so we intend to follow-up in that way and, of course, the bi witness we want to hear from is the former president himself. i do want to get to that. congress and ellison is here with laura as well. i would ask you one more thing about the secret service: what did they do about those threats? since you presented this evidence that they knew, they had a heads up, they knew that they were direct and cruel threats against members of congress tended to refer
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generally six. the morning of in some ca cases. i mean, for days they knew about this. and so why didn't they do anything, what should they have done, and did they lie? did some secret service agents lie to the committee about this? well, that's a very good question, and we are to determine whether people workin with us when they testified before we are also looking into issues which i can come into th particulars that there may have been efforts to obstruct our getting information about some of the incidents that we talked about and ahearing today. so there is more to get to the bottom of a. in terms of why they didn't do more, to try to protect their - those that they are meant to safeguard and guard, is a very good question. they had all this information. but, you know, again, i think some of the most powerful evidence is the fact that the secret service told the
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president on the mall that day that people wouldn't go through the metal detectors because the were armed and didn't want to give up their weapons. and he was okay with that. in fact, he was fine with them going to the capitol with their weapons he was incensed that he couldn't go with them ps, in fact, o-net point remember from earlier to tony this is essentially they're not here fo me. he didn't think there was concern about himself. of course, they were marching for the capitol which, of co course, congresswoman liz chene began the hearing today in part pubic congress in talking about that today was going to focus o the state of mind of the former president. you know, you and i, both attorneys, both former prosecutors, thinking about how you get to the state of mind conversation. obviously the best evidence you can have in one state of mind can be for the proverbial horse mouth. do you think that there is a chance that there had been a subpoena voted on unanimously the committee that the former president is actually going to show up, or even provide any documents? well, first of all, i think you're exactly right. often the most part evidence
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comes from the horses mouth, an you pointed to one up i think the most critical piece of evidence, that is when the president is confronted with th fact these people are arme d people he says you know they're not here to hurt me. and he is okay with them watching a camper because he knows where their violence is directed. we also presented today i think other powerful evidence of the president's intent when his own top justin furby people were going through the litany of his bogus claims of fraud and shooting them down one after another. and what is the previous response? , "just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to m and the republicans ". what we do hope that the president will come in and answer for what we have presented, answer ques questions, as indeed many other prisons have, and former presidents. in terms of what are the odds that he will? i really -- i really can't say. he may be too scared to be unde oath, too afraid to commit to testify. but we would help that he will
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have some sense of duty, as presidents have. about only time will tell. what is your plan? what is your plan if he doesn't comply? well, you know, we will cross that bridge when they get to it. we are not going to presuppose that the president will be unwilling. we hope that he will follow the path of the -- pat other prison have. but if he doesn't then we'll decide as a committee what the next step should be. congressman whittington fro some of the people that you did interview as a part of the pane since last we heard from generation committee, steven mnuchin, ginny thomas, the wife of supreme per justice clarence thomas. will be prehearing an additiona hearing of some kind? or will that all be part of the report as written from the like of ginny thomas and others? well, i think first of all we may do another hearing or a business meeting where we talk
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about our findings and our recommendations in terms of how we protect the country going forward. but i think you can also expect that our report won't be a traditional report in the sense that it will be just a report o paper. it will be report is sort of living report online as well an wish you will have sips of testimony, if you have stress gifts that you can peruse. so a lot of the information tha we weren't able to elicit because we only had so many hearings and regathered a mountain of evidence, you'll here either refer to our report in discrete pieces or you'll here as a part of our report. so congress in, was this your last hearing? i don't know for sure. i hope that we will do a public hearing of some kind to go over okay, these are the findings at we've made, these are our
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recommendations. you know, we are going to be discussing making criminal referrals and reaching decision on that and i don't know whethe we will make the presentation o those decisions in a public setting are not those are thing that we will have to decide as committee. image ssq one final questio is because we've been playing for exclusive furniture today o cnn that captures some of the behind the scenes what was goin on in the capitol when the people were serhii cherevatly, for breaking in, were committin the awful crimes and the things they were doing. i wonder what you make of -- we played part of what you saw today in the hearing. what was your reaction to seein that band's point? you obviously have your own is somebody who was there on the scene. but what was it like for you to see the bipartisan leadership, and assuming that because you'r not involved -- the commander-in-chief? well, this is what was so striking to me. when you have for example that seen when the speaker is learning that the session had
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been interrupted, met members are getting out there gas masks. and she is incredulous about what's happening, and she says to the effect of can you believ this. and there they are, you know, they return to some resources t try to help rescue those of us that are in the capitol. they are calling the virginia governor, they are contacting the maryland governor about those safeguards and those guys coming in. they are talking to the head of the police in washington, d.c. and the mayor. and they are doing everything they can, both the democ democratic leadership, republican leadership, all whil donald trump is sitting in the white house dining room watchin it unfold on tv doing nothing. doing absolutely nothing. and, you know, that contrast, everyone rushing to try to aid the police who were getting beaten. some would lose their lives. member s endangered.
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and there is donald trump just watching it, won't lift a fi finger. yeah, no, that, that's somethin i'll never forget. congressman adam schiff, meditative for your time to tonight, we really appreciate it. thank you. >> so that the secret servic need to clean house? where would speak with the experts who o know this right after this luxu on ele with apple music seamlessly integrateted. the all-new, all-electric eqs suv from mercedes-benz. welcome to my digestive system. it's pretty calm in here with align probiotic. you see... your t has good and bad bacteria. and when you g off balance, you may feel it. the blting, the gas - but align helps me trust my gut again. plus, its recommended by doctors nearly 2x more
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pzt select committee reviewing today and start detail how the secret service received plenty of 12 january 6 about personal bias at the capitol that day, including online threats agains then vice president mike lindt. was bringing a secret service agent and john is our intelligence agent. i don't understand jonathan if they had credible threats against members of congress and
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the sitting vice president, wha should they have done before january 6? my brother secret service manages every single day in a threat environment, right? so every single day professor coming to the white house, to the secret service, to field offices, it is around the globe are assessing the means opportunity and intent for that threat to actually materialize. but those ten days thing up to this you don't think were different category. we were. and they were doing things. they were doing things. and they assessed that the threats to the data that environment and generally six a the ellipse, just take this in two phases. first is the event of the ellipse, the presidential event. then what happened at the us capitol. their time to prepare, identify transfer identify vulnerabilities and put the right control measures in place for that event ps and your peac and insurrection in the secret service like to try to bring th president of the united states in 20 i think we are hearing th disconnect of what went wrong because obviously there was a failure. actually it wasn't because when you think about this for the
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secret service when they have t make a secret -- decision whether or not to bring the present up to the us capitol, they did a threat assessment an realize that the likelihood and consequence was so great that violence would occur that they couldn't bring the president there. so in the first part they felt that they controlled the environment at the ellipse. info behind ballistic last, he was in an armored vehicle, they had magnetometers. they controlled that envir environment. what they didn't control was what was going on at the cap capitol, and we know that there is this violent crowd outside the perimeter that was going to shift out. don? ps i mean, in situ because usually the secret service, and i stay there paris concern is protecting the president. that that wasn't really against the president that day, it was against everybody else. my current one is against who they were looking. the chief until assessment and planning really go to the capitol police and dc metro,
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primarily the capitol police. and, you know, chief deep sound of the capitol police looked at the generally third until assessment that said most gr groups, whites and pharmacists coming armed, target is con congress, and met with th the leadership and said i think we need the national guard. in the best you got was, talk t the national guard and just tel them to be on standby, which means hours away if they are no mobilized and in place. we are talking about the coordination of it, that's my concern. so the secret service has information in advance. the secret service is not protecting the president ps esther but wouldn't have been some sort of what was it o r or obligation to say let's coordinate and figure out what the problem is? that's a question. they did. the secret service is talking t the capitol, the capitol is talking to the secret service, the capitol and secret service are talking to the fbi. everybody is seeing the same intel. the real failure here is one that i think is hard to blame o anybody because all the intel
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said what the bad guys are goin to do, storm the capitol. but the inter-didn't say, and i don't believe it could have, because i supplied intel and dippy commissioner of intel for the nypd to the capitol police about what was going to the capitol along with everybody else. no one could have predicted tha the sitting president of the united states of america would stand on a corner just a couple miles down from the capitol and bring that crowd to a crescendo by saying essentially, "you've got to mark down there and take this in," in sum and substance. very important point that you raised. next i want you to hear what nancy pelosi said about ♪e the motor talked about, before then insurrection. just a moment. w. ♪ careful. ♪ you know, opera isn't so bad. do you like it? start your plan today with a northwestern mutual financial advisor and spend your life living. ♪
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so cnn has this exclusive never before seen footage shows our congressional leadership was scrambling to save the capital as rioters were running while. here's the moment the speaker of the house nancy pelosi was talking to then acting attorney jeffrey rosen about the risk to human life. >> the concern we have about
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personal safety is it transcends everything, but the fact is on any given day they are breaking the law in many different ways. >> i mean, that's the part we think about how it's gonna have lasting consequence, and it's gonna matter for so many people, watching it in realtime. what is the doj going to do about this? the question lingered. i really appreciated it in terms of the true feelings in that moment. the idea here when you heard speaker pelosi in this never been seen before seen footage, talking about in a very raw state of emotions what she planned to do with then president went to the capital, you've got to see this. >> they have dissuaded him from coming to the capitol, they told him they don't have the resources to protect him here, so he is not coming but that could change. >> i'm gonna punch him out.
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i've been waiting for this, for trespassing on the capitol grounds. in a punch about, i'm gonna go to jail and i'll be happy. >> now why i thought that was so poignant, not because of her statement, but it was the idea of so often that's why documents are so important. it was the raw emotion of what you felt, the camera was there, what was really going on, that's what me as a member of the electorate, a viewer, wanted to know. what were you thinking? i know what we were thinking in the moment watching in horror, it was unbelievable to see that rawness. >> i think this documentary footage is so valuable on all levels. historically, setting the record straight because you remember there were all sorts of right-wing hosts who tried to pivot away from donald trump's complete abdication of any sort of responsibility. what was nancy pelosi doing that day? where was? she let me just remind everybody of the chorus. >> what did you do on january
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six? pelosi? did you do anything? >> laughable now. now we watch this footage is laughable. what she was doing for those hours and we have seen all the various leaders around her of congress trying to get back in there, trying to certify the vote. but i'm so glad that this exists to tell the radio host of the world, what was she doing? every minute she was fighting the, against that mob. >> she was fighting, it's unbelievable. >> tell us what you think. you can tweet us @alisyncamerota and @thelauracoates. here's what one viewer was telling. us as was heartbreaking these visitors. i can think of john kennedy's co-, the ignorance of one voter threatens democracy. >> and didn't they make their argument effectively. stay with. us we can replace your windshield ...andnd recalibrate your safety system. >> customer: and they recyclcld my old glass. >> tech: don't wait. schedule todayay. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replacece. ♪
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