flu relief with more concentrated power. because the only thing dripping should be your style! plop plop fizz fizz, winter warriors with alka-seltzer plus. in my book, saving while shopping is a no-brainer. so, i use rakuten to get cash back while i'm book clubbing. cha-ching! with rakuten, i get cash back at over 3,500 stores. so, how does that work? well, stores pay rakuten to send them shoppers. then, rakuten shares that money with us, in a check or paypal payment. it's free and easy.

shhhhh! i think you're missing the plot. and i think you're missing the cash back. [ding] cha-ching. what's the #1 retinol brand used most by dermatologists? it's neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® smooths the look of fine lines in 1-week, deep wrinkles in 4. so you can kiss wrinkles goodbye! neutrogena®

before we go, i want to think alexander pelosi and the whole network for providing us with the video that you saw tonight. if you did see all of it, anyone of find it again you can find it on cnn.com. there is yet more exclusive video which will bring you tomorrow night on the program, including a second phone call between speaker nancy pelosi and vice president mike pence. also, a serious discussion among the congressional leadership about moving the entire election certification process, hundreds of lawmakers and all to the security location, where the leaders are hunkering down. again, that will be tomorrow night on three 60. right now, cnn tonight, jake tapper. >> [noise] welcome to cnn tonight, i'm jake tapper. knock, knock, knock, donald trump, you have been served! that is about to happen at mar-a-lago, presumably, after members of the january 6th house select committee voted unanimously, and attach theatrically, to subpoena

donald trump for testimony and documents. it is all part of their case that trump not only try to overturn democracy in 2020 with fraud, lies, threats and violence. but that trump continues to do so. >> we are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion. and every american is entitled to those answers. so we can act now to protect our republic. >> today's hearing included never before seen video of congressional leaders, democrats and republicans, who had been evacuated from the capital by law enforcement to the security of a local army base. law enforcement seeking to protect them from the harm many of the insurrectionists seem determined to cause them. perhaps especially speaker nancy pelosi. >> [inaudible] nancy! nancy! nancy! >> nancy, nancy, they are shouting in that clip. now, you can see democrats and republicans in this new video huddled to gather, working the phones, calling the national guard and calling the pentagon. trying to get someone to stop the violence. >> they are breaking the law in many different ways. and quite frankly, much of it

is at the instigation of the president of the united states. and now, if he could at least, somebody -- >> yeah, why did you get the president to tell them to leave the capitol, mister attorney general. your law enforcement responsibility. a public statement they should all leave. >> that public statement that they should all leave would not come for more than three hours after the first insurrectionists crossed the barriers. the violence should not have been a surprise, however, two members of the u. s. secret service, who we learned today had been warned more than ten days before that the insurrection was coming. including this tip passed on from the fbi to the secret service, detailed today by committee member adam schiff. >> the source went on to say that their plan is to literally kill people. please, please take this tip seriously and investigate further. >> that was hardly the only warning, we

learned today that secret service agents were reporting people in the crowds likely had weapons. reporting that more than 30 minutes before president trump took the stage at the ellipse. but regardless, the rally went on. even though people had weapons. even -- we know these rioters were angry, inside by months of trump's and his allies lies about a stolen election. and in evidence presented today, we saw the trump campaign aide jason miller bragged to then white house chief of staff mark meadows that he, quote, got the base fired up on, and quote. miller included a link to a pro trump website underneath which people had post comments about their plans for january 6th. comments like these. >> galas don't require electricity. if the filthy call me maggots try to push their fraud through, there will be hacked to pay. our lawmakers in congress can leave one of two ways. one, in a body bag. two, after rightfully certifying trump the

winner. >> jason miller told the committee that he did not realize those comments were on the link that he sent meadows. but even if that is true, if, i find it impossible to imagine that anybody who worked for trump by january 6th, 2021, wasn't aware of the potential for violence. especially among a base that was fired up. because even before trump ran for office, he loved, he embraced the imagery of violence and brutality. suggesting in 1989 that five black men, the so-called central park five, be given the death penalty! he continued to argue that even after the central park five had been freed and exonerated years later.

trump, of course, jumped into the for violence of pro wrestling. >> any guy that can do a body slam, he is my kind of guy! >> but as a presidential candidate, trump clearly relished the idea of real violence. instigating his supporters repeatedly to commit violence against protesters who hated trump. >> knock the crap out of him, seriously, would you. okay, knocked the heck out of him. i promise you, i will pay for the legal fees, i promise. i promise. >> it was like that almost every rally, it seemed. in 2016, violence at his rallies got so bad, one sunday i found myself basically

pleading with donald trump to stop it. >> you are not taking down the temperature, you are, in the views of many of your fellow republicans, making things worse. inciting, encouraging violence. and you are a leader. >> my fellow republicans -- excuse me, excuse me. my fellow republicans are running against me. they are losing vaguely. >> not really the point, that i was trying to make. the violence continued, so i asked him about it again at a presidential debate in miami, march, 2016. >> do you believe that you have done anything to create a tone where this kind of violence would be encouraged? >> i hope not, i truly hope not. >> you can judge for yourself how much he truly hoped not. after months of election lies, fast forward to december 2020. a republican election official in georgia also found himself pleading with donald trump to stop. >> someone is going to get hurt, someone is going to get shot,

someone is going to get killed. >> on january 6th, all of that happened. someone got hurt, someone got shot, someone got killed. and what was donald trump doing during that period? >> [inaudible] violence at the capitol visible on the screen [inaudible] >> yes. >> it is my understanding that he was watching television. >> i think he was watching tv. >> watching tv, watching tv. moments such as this one. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> hang mike pence. testimony suggests that donald trump told aides that perhaps the mob was right. pence should be hanged. and now we must confront the case being made by the committee. that the violence on january 6th was not just an unfortunate happenstance, that it was part of the plan. that it is now a

trump tactic. >> there are a lot of members of congress that i think voted against impeachment because they were scared for their families and for themselves. what does that mean, it means threats of violence worked. >> a recent new york times study suggests that in the five years after trump was elected, quote, the number of recorded threats against members of congress increased more than ten fold. against democrats and republicans. and it is not just members of congress. since june of last year, the fbi's new election threat task force has received more than 1000 reports of threats against election workers. election workers! you know, the people, many of them over the age of 60, paid little or nothing to make sure you get to exercise your right to vote. the sweet old grandmas that hand you an i voted sticker afterwards. for doing their part to uphold democracy, they get phone calls like this one. >> we will -- take you out, --

your family, -- your life, -- watch your back. >> where these threats taking place? well, the bulk of them are ingest these seven states. arizona, georgia, colorado, michigan, pennsylvania, nevada and wisconsin. all over those states. all seven battleground states that trump lost to biden, six of them states where trump and his allies tried to create slates of fraudulent election electors to throw out a legitimate votes cast in 2020. i want to introduce you to claire what all though, she's the u.s. -- elections of wisconsin. among the dozens and dozens and dozens of threatening messages that she received, a few of them stick out. >> a lot of the emails called me a -- i deserve to go before a firing squad, all because i did my job and make sure that all of the city of mueller milwaukee's ballots were counted. >> she now reasonably thinks that she is a target for violence. >> it's frightening because there are crazy people out there. while

it might just be them blowing off steam, it is clear that they believe it. i think only someone who truly believed it would act on it. >> some of these unhinged people have regrettably acted on it. after the fbi's seized classified documents, that trump had improperly taken to mar-a-lago. an armed man tried to storm the fbi office in cincinnati, ohio, in august. he has reportedly posted on social media the same day encouraging others to prepare for war. this is the level of insanity in which we are still 26 days from the midterm elections. what happens after november 8th if the outcome is not what some of these fringe voters hope for? >> if the republicans don't win in 2022, if it's stolen again, confidence in the whole entire system is just going to a road america. and then it leads to trouble. it could lead to civil war. it will also start on a small scale, it will be like town to town, communities like that. state against state. i don't want to see, it i don't want to know what we're, is but if it becomes it. >> town against town, state against state. it's not just guys hawking trump t-shirts talking about actual bloodshed,

americans killing americans because a bunch of them believe these deranged lies about the election? you know, we knew that in the weeks after trump lost his election we are -- retired national security adviser met with trump, we talk about an order to seize voting machines. that is not where flynn's unhinged ideas ended. >> did you know that a governor can declare war? a governor then declare war. okay? and we are probably see that. >> it is a deranged virus, and it is going viral from the deep corners of the dark web onto mainstream sites such as twitter where experts tell cnn they have seen a surge of posts about civil war in recent weeks. after the mar-a-lago

search, one posted on a trump online forum stating, i'm just gonna say, attorney general mayor garland is to be assassinated, simple as that. another said, quote, kill all feds. all of this is probably why, in a recent poll, 64% of you said you expect to see an increase in political violence in the u.s. over the next few years. you are right to have those fears. at least, i hope they are just fears. and not desires. i mean, some polling suggests americans are more willing than ever before to support on violence as a illegitimate way to further warrant political goals. according to the carnegie endowment for international peace, u.s. levels are fast

approaching support for political violence, the levels seen in northern ireland in 1973. during that country's most violent period of political violence between catholics and protestants. i would love to tell you that there is no reason to be worried. but after today, after all of these hearings, it is clearer than ever that the threat is real. the danger remains. and that january 6th might some day soon and looking like a dress rehearsal. so let's go inside the decision to subpoena donald trump with one of the republicans who voted aye in his first interview since today's hearing. will this subpoena lead anywhere or did it just feel good for the panel to say it out loud? and what about a criminal referral to the justice department? republican congressman adam kinzinger joins us next. as because knowing that your chronic kidney disease in type 2 diabetes

could progress to dialysis is important. b is for belief that there may be more you can do. just remember that k is for kidneys and kerendia. for adults living with ckd in type 2 diabetes, kerendia is proven to reduce the risk of kidney failure, which can lead to dialysis. kerendia is a once-daily tablet that treats ckd differently than type 2 diabetes medications to help slow the progression of kidney damage and reduce the risk of cardiovascular events, such as heart attacks. do not take kerendia if you have problems with your adrenal glands or take certain medications called cyp3a4 inhibitors. kerendia can cause hyperkalemia, which is high potassium levels in your blood. ask your doctor before taking products containing potassium. kerendia can also cause low blood pressure and low sodium levels. so now that you know your abcs, remember, k is for kidneys, and if you need help slowing kidney damage, ask your doctor about kerendia. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do.

when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. shingles. some describe it as an intense burning sensation or an unbearable itch. this painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks. it could make your workday feel impossible. the virus that causes shingles is likely already inside of you. if you're 50 years or older, ask your doctor or pharmacist about shingles. >> tech: at safelite, we take care of vehicles with the latest technology. we can replace your windshield ...and recalibrate your safety system. >> customer: and they recycled my old glass. >> tech: don't wait. schedule today. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ if rayna's thinking about retirement, she'll get some help from fidelity to envision what's possible and balance risk and reward.

and with a clear plan, rayna can enjoy wherever she's headed next. that's the planning effect, from fidelity. red loved visiting grandma's house. and after saving big at amazon, she was ready for those... uninvited guests. [growling] shop legendary deals at amazon. avoiding triggers but can't keep migraines away? qulipta® can help prevent migraines. you can't always prevent what's going on outside... that's why qulipta® helps what's going on inside. qulipta® gets right to work. in a 3-month study, qulipta® significantly reduced monthly migraine days and the majority of people reduced them by 50 to 100%. qulipta® blocks cgrp a protein believed to be a cause of migraines. qulipta® is a preventive treatment for episodic migraine. most common side effects are nausea, constipation, and tiredness. learn how abbvie could help you save on qulipta®.

as part of the closing argument,

the january six house select committee drew a sharp contrast today between the action of the congressional leaders took behind the scenes, in the midst of the capital riot chaos, and donald trump, who set up watching the violent unfold for 187 minutes, resisting all of the entreaties, the police, that he call the crowd, the mob, to stop. they showed you the committee aired with what unseen footage with fort mcmurray, and the unseen post where speaker pelosi, and senate leader, schumer, were going against. they're trying to get national guardsmen to rush to the capital, to stop the violence, and the bloodshed. here's a closer look at those moments. >> d. c. has requested the

national guard, and has been denied by the d. o. d.. i would like to know a good reason why it's been denied. i apologize. >> don't apologize. >> it's not just we're waiting for someone so, we need the mayor now. whatever you've got. we also have troops, this is been a where >> we have a bit of time to make that decision. >> other military bases -- there is active duty national guards all of the people -- there are sworn to defend, and protect, the constitution. >> joining us, now one of the republican members on the january six committee, and adam kinzinger of illinois. congressman, thank you for being here. tell us why you think that is significant. that that video of pelosi, and schumer, and others, trying to get the capitol with the protection. >> if you are conspiracy theorist, they have been believing that it's all set up. they're now saying it's been a fake video now, it is in the midst of chaos and the focus is on, how do we defend the capitol, yes, but how do we get back to work? this is a constitutional certifying the election, how do we bring

enough people into taken troll of the capital as well, and to do that. the conspiracy theories have said, again, we basically invited them in. we wanted this to happen somehow, and it doesn't make sense that this video, show today, how intense that battle was former congressional leadership perspective. not sitting, they're waiting for events to happen, but proactively trying to get this job done. >> i don't know where mccarthy, scalise, and stefanik, and the three house republican leaders were in that period. i thought that they were somewhere safe as well. but, they're all pushing the idea that pelosi, is somehow, to blame, that she didn't do enough, and of course, it's a way for them to deflect from talking about trump. did you see pelosi right there? >> the biggest disappointment over congressman i know, is right there. not because of what he said, or done, but because he knows better. he said it. a week after january 6th. they said the truth. it is the stars in your eyes, that they have to become speaker. so, when i see him talking about, or see any republican saying,

the problem is, the capital wasn't secured enough. that is like blaming someone who had a home invasion, because they didn't like the front door. it is insane, and it is a deflection. the only people who don't see right through that, or those who choose to not see right through that, because they don't want to look at january 6th, and see the truth >> the big action today, by the committee, was voting unanimously to subpoena donald trump from testimony, and records. do you think that he is, actually, going to testify? >> i know he should. the requirement, now, is for him, as former president, to have the same rules as any american, as you or i. if you are subpoenaed by congress, you come in to testify. but, i think, it is important for us that we take this investigation, we get as many pieces as we can together. we are very clear, there are people who won't come in and talk to us. at the end of this congress, this committee ends. this is donald trump's doing. when this even

started, did he not know what was happening? did people around him do this? it is a very clear. it was wanting to stay in power, and now we want to hear from them >> there were some suggestions today, at the hearing, there were some individuals of the secret service, in the u. s. secret service, that have been told your committee the truth about, whether or not, there were any threats ahead, and you show that they're evidence of there were some passed on by others. and, other misrepresentations tell us more about that? >> with the other secret service, there is cultural issues, it is too desire to remain secrecy, the despite the preservation requests. there is cassidy hutchinson testified on what she heard. what she heard about happened with it. we have these anonymous sources saying, that is being disputed in the secret service, tony ornato, and everybody, will all testify. we said great, come in, never went to, it never came in. they didn't come into talk to us. there was a lot of

inconsistencies that, we're going to continue to investigate, from things that people have said, to evidence that we have gotten. that will either be explored in the future or, definitely, in the report. >> a friend of mine, steve, says that we, the committee, and also the news media, are describing this wrong. we shouldn't be calling the attack on democracy, we should be calling it an attack on the united states. because, his argument is, truly, you attacked the capital, you attack the democratic process, you are attacking the united states. if it was anyone else, other than trump supporters, maybe we would call it that. >> you are right. imagine if this was isis, even if they did the exact same thing, it would be an attack on the united

states. whether they are citizens, or not. >> i can see it both ways. democracy is important to defend right now. one thing i believe is that democracies, in the united states particularly, we are not defined by our bad days. we will have bad days. we are defined by how we come back from those bad days. that is what we are doing on the committee right now. we need to take full accountability for what happened, so that my kid, your kid can come up in a country, that can take accountability for its wrongs, and, can actually, give people hope, opportunity, and prosperity. >> speaking of your kid, i have no doubt that your, kids someday, will be reading in the history books about what you did, and the kids are going

along with reliable needing this to. it must be kind of lonely. where you are, right now. it was seeing fellow veterans in congress, fellow conservatives. i don't know. are you still friends with him? >> we get along. still friends with some. but, look, it was the january six conspiracies, and begrudge them left less, because the colleagues of the truth, and have a position of leadership. one and 700,000 people serve in what i serve your chances of being born in another life, and doing it again, are zero. you have a responsibility to the constitution. not to what your district wants you to say, in a time like this. your district may want you to do something else. you swore an oath of constitution to the united states. 99% of republican colleagues are failing, every day. for them, i am sure, they are afraid of what their kids will read in history books, but i am proud of what my kids read in history books. i guarantee, every one of my colleagues here, they will believe what we put out there, because we believe it's the truth >> congressman adam kinzinger, republican from illinois, appreciate it. the system held last time, but what about next time? one of the republicans on the state level, raised for

keeping the democracy together, despite donald trump's lies, and threats. georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger, next. donald trump knew he had lost the election, before he ever picked up the phone, for this phone call, the sound of which played at today's hearing of the january six house committee. there's no mess or stress. bath fitter. it just fits. visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation. ♪ ♪ there's nothing like volunteering at the fire department. there's nothing like hitting the waves. but with my moderate-to-severe eczema it hasn't always been easy,... ...since my skin was so irritated and itchy... ...and even worse with all my gear on. now, i'm staying ahead of my eczema. there's a power inside all of us to live our passion. and dupixent works on the insie to help heal your skin from within. it helps block a key source of inflammation inside the body that can cause eczema. so adults can have long-lasting clearer skin and fast itch relief. serious allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening

eye problems such as eye pain or vision changes including blurred vision, joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection. don't change or stop asthma medicines without talking to your doctor. healing from within is a powerful thing. ask your eczema specialist how dupixent can help heal your skin from within. if you have this... consider adding this. an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from unitedhealthcare. medicare supplement plans help by paying some of what medicare doesn't... and let you see any doctor. any specialist. anywhere in the u.s. who accepts medicare patients. so if you have this... consider adding this. call unitedhealthcare today for your free decision guide. ♪

naomi: every year the wildfires, the smoke seems to get worse. jessica: there is actual particles on every single surface. dr. cooke: california has the worst air pollution in the country. the top 2 causes are vehicles and wildfires. prop 30 helps clean our air. it will reduce the tailpipe emissions that poison our air kevin: and helps prevent the wildfires that create toxic smoke that's why calfire firefighters, the american lung association, and the coalition for clean air support prop 30. naomi: i'm voting yes on 30.

donald trump knew he had lost the election, before he ever picked up the phone, for this phone call, the sound of which played at today's hearing of the january six house committee. >> i just want to find 11,780

votes. >> this is what the former acting deputy attorney general said, under oath, about what he had told trump, specifically, about the results in georgia, and trump's conspiracy theories about the vote in georgia, including one theory about a suitcase full of pallets >> in regards to georgia, we looked at the tape, we interviewed the witnesses, and there is no suitcase the president kept fixating on this suitcase that, supposedly, had fraudulent ballots. the suitcases rolled out from under the table. and, i said, no sir, there is no suitcase. >> yet, here is what trump said on the subsequent call to georgia officials. >> they weren't in an official voter box, they were in, what

looked to be, suitcases. >> my next guest, a man on the other end of the line, georgia's republican secretary of state, brad raffensperger. secretary of state raffensperger, thank you for joining us. you, and your council, told trump on the call, his information about the election was wrong. now we know, from the hearing today, that he knew it was a lie. he had been told it was not true. how does knowing that change your recollection, or view of the conversation, in the way? >> well, i knew we had the facts on our side, and that is what i told the president then. for the last year and a half, i've been traveling over the state of georgia, talking to people. people would ask me, what happened in the election? so, i gave them the facts. i stop to everyone, i went anywhere, talk to any group that invited me in. i saw people need to hear from the source. so that is what i provided with the facts >> it is so interesting, because trump initiated a candidate to run against you, in the primary congressman jody hice. but, you, and the governor, brian kemp, who also trump had got somebody to run against him, prevailed in your

republican primaries, whereas we have seen other republicans, all over, lose their primaries. how is it that you were able to do that? >> number one, i had a tremendous belief and faith, and just the goodness of my fellow georgians. most people are good, and that can be found out. it was given the facts, let them ask questions, then you answer their questions with some patients, and some grace, and it always works out. that is how it worked out for me. i just wanted to ensure that people understood. that is what i did. i did that for a year, going out, talking to people, and give them their information. >> last month, trump was still insisting that it wasn't, quote, absolutely perfect phone call. how would you describe that phone call? >> well, it was over an hour long. you kept on bringing different issues, and to give them what the facts were. to make sure it was facts based. we investigated every allegation that was made. we just never could nail anyone

down first, they said there is 10,000 dead people. we found four dead people. they said there was thousands of underage voters. every single allegation, we went to head, and we checked out. it was to congress, and to make sure it's fact based. it is leaning into, and standing on the constitution, and i want to make sure that these are what the facts are they gave people the truth. it was making sure we do that respectfully. >> the committee focused on the call, and the exclusive reporting that they went far, far beyond that. the bogus trump electors had access to the voting systems, and >> the committee focused on the call, and the exclusive reporting that they went far, far beyond that. the bogus trump electors had access to the voting systems, and it was how the donald trump conspiracy theory. it was in terms of money being spent to protect the next election. >> i think the thing that is so

upsetting about election deniers when it came from the 2018 race we had, or of the 2020 race, is that it disrupts society, and creates more social tension that polarizes people. but i think, by and large, they are tired of the screaming, the hollering, and they want people to get things done for them. we think, as elected leaders, we were called to be responsible, and we make sure that we deal with people, respectfully, and with the facts. i have actually made a pledge, whatever the results are in those races far, i will accept the results, i will accept the will of the voters. i will encourage every person, who's running for elected office, to make that same pledge, to divide by the results. in so close, and they can have a recount as allowed by state law, or the you can do the audit, but after the process had gone through, abide by those results. if you want to run again, come back again. i will abide by the results from the people general. it was had to go with honest, and fair

elections for everyone >> early in georgia, it is a shortage of poll workers in some counties. is this, because, you think, threats of violence from the president's former supporters? does this have a role in the shortage of workers of people not willing to play this important role in our elections? >> that could be one issue. also, after covid, many people that were a little older, stepped down, and haven't come back. it is an election cycle. it was to have enough poll workers, but they don't have any spare. i think that is an issue we've been seeking recently, and i would encourage anyone to the poll workers a try to be with the cycle. it was to go about two years from hans. it is a great public service, and to understand the public process. after the election of 2020, so many people don't understand the process. all of the fail-safes, all of the checks, the double checks, to make sure that we have fair, and honest elections. not just in georgia,

but throughout the entire country. >> how are you, and your wife doing? i'm sure it was quite the ordeal. >> we are doing fine. we are looking forward to this election. there has been a long election season for us. we are looking forward to election day. but i think, that is why i'm out, there campaigning, talking to people, and we will have our job, getting ready. we are expecting very strong turnout. for many people show up in 2018, we had 5 million in 2020, we don't know exactly where we will be here, but we were expecting a strong turnout. there's a lot of national issues that are weighing on people's minds right now. >> you have a big governors race right there, and a big senate race as well. secretary raffensperger of georgia, thank you so, much appreciate your

time. >> thank you >> between those revelations of the hearings, the subpoena, the supreme court rejection, it is hard to imagine donald trump didn't throw, at least, some food at the wall today. maggie haberman, from the new york times, joining me, and we talk about how donald trump, and as loyalists, are reacting to today's horrible news for donald trump. that is next. should be your style! plop plop fizz fizz, winter warriors with alka-seltzer plus cold & flu relief.

when people come, they say they've tried lots of diets, nothing's worked or they've lost the same 10, 20, 50 pounds over and over again. they need a real solution. i've always fought with 5-10 pounds all the time. eating all these different things and nothing's ever working. i've done the diets, all the diets. before golo, i was barely eating but the weight wasn't going anywhere.

the secret to losing weight and keeping it off is managing insulin and glucose. golo takes a systematic approach to eating that focuses on optimizing insulin levels. we tackle the cause of weight gain, not just the symptom. when you have good metabolic health, weight loss is easy. i always thought it would be so difficult to lose weight, but with golo, it wasn't. the weight just fell off. i have people come up to me all the time and ask me, "does it really work?" and all i have to say is, "here i am. it works." my advice for everyone is to go with golo. it will release your fat and it will release you. two days before the 2020 election, they learned from axios's jonathan swan, that then president trump had a plan to declare a premature victory,

regardless of the election results. but, it turns out, trump had been planning that strategy since at least july. he was vice president pence's to p white house lawyer, and top ally, steve bannon in, testimony, playing in this hearing. >> mark had indicated to me, they have indicated there is a possibility that there would be a declaration of victory within the white house, that some might push for. this is prior to the election results being known. >> what trump is going to do is declare victory. they're going to declare victory. that doesn't mean that they would be a winner.

>> that revelation is not all that the former president is grappling with today, they have regressed terms that they would intervene in the mar-a-lago documents fight with the justice department, and they are under scrutiny by new york's attorney general, and vice president pence's former chief of staff, marc short, who was shown testifying before a grand jury for the second time. so, how is trump world reacting to this horrible news for him? let's bring in the author of confidence man, the making of donald trump, in the braking of the attention supporter. maggie haberman, is the best selling author. number one best-selling author, maggie haberman, congratulations what are you hearing about how trump is responding to all of this abysmal news for them, thart played out for him today? >> so, a few things, jake. he doesn't tend to process these legal actions, the way other people might. working backwards. the revelations by the committee, most of his folks, are sloughing them off, because they're trying to say these are old news, and it is not surprising. in terms of the subpoena, for him, that is one of the things that has animated him. he is talking to advisers about how he would consider

testifying, if they would air it live, which is also not surprising. it seems hard to imagine, the committee would go for that. what he is very focused on now is the other investigations, that could lead to criminal charges. that, is still, or much of his energy is focused. it was very focused in the next week, and where he's being sued for defmation who accused him of rape. the developments around january six, he consider those baked in the, not everyone does, but he does. >> that's interesting. do you think that his lawyers would let him testify, live? i mean, i can't imagine that. it might feel good for him, but i cannot imagine it makes him look sane, rational, reasonable. i don't see any scenario in which he ends up looking at there. >> i think it would be, i also, don't see a scenario where he

is potentially getting himself into a fraud situation he's testifying under oath. i think it would depend on which lawyers he is listening to . he has different lawyers, in different cases and he seeks them out for different reasons and they are not always on the same page. >> that's the thing, because they would be under oath, and often when he testifies under oath, he just ends up saying, i don't recall, i don't recall, i don't recall. because he is being told by lawyers, he has to do that. it was going to do that before the committee, and i can't imagine any attorney, although, i don't imagine how he's picking his attorneys these days. it doesn't seem like he's getting the harvard law review the so, do you think -- among these lesser attorneys were giving him advice he stays, would someone go ahead and say, do that, it's going to be great? >> at least one of his lawyers was sending people out to the idea of him testifying, and agreeing to it, as long as the committee would let him do it live. so, i certainly don't think they're all shutting him down. i do think there are

people who would be concerned about it, with his lawyers, and were being investigated by robert mueller. they were meeting with mueller, and testifying, which trump wanted to, and they did not want to for the reasons you just said. >> it was going to say that trump's mindset, let's run some of that. >> it's to the effect of, i don't want people to know we lost, figured out, it is embarrassing, i don't want people to know we lost. this is embarassing. >> that is what the supreme court is refusing to hear, that some of these crazy lawsuits are being filed on his behalf. how much do you think of it was fear of embarrassment? one of the motivating factors behind donald trump's refusal to publicly accept this election, and it was one of the biggest fear is being embarrassed? >> i think that's one of them,

jake. i think it was someone who spent a lifetime being raised by a man who was being a loser, who's an incredibly frothing. you need to be a killer, you need to win. it was going over, and over, and over again. it was the saying those that would be affirming that, and it's not an election he would admit. i would make the point, he said that the election that he won he was rigged too, in 2016. this is something he says about elections. i think that they're about the embarrassment, and it is accepting the reality on anyone else's terms. >> greg jacob, pence's lawyer, detailing trump's it was going for it, and regardless of what had happened, the committee laid out that they are laying out that plan. what is the saying on this? it is to prematurely declare victory, even though he, likely, lost. >> it was similar, jake. he was

telling some of the advisers in july, and they were going to raise questions about the mail-in ballots, because all of these rules changed around covid in, 2020, in terms of how people were allowed to vote, and they're going to say that this was unfair, this is wrong, and this is corrupt. so, we've been talk about this, and working towards, this for a very long time. as axios reported, as we noted, is that in october that they could stun some advisers they can go on there and election night. they're saying you want to, no matter what. it was clear where this was headed. >> maggie, stick with me, don trump's life is not exactly an open book, but not for lack of trying on maggie's part. is getting inside donald trump's head, is that a gift, or is it a curse for maggie? or, maybe, is it both? we will talk about that next.

people with plaque psoriasis, or psoriatic arthritis, are rethinking the choices they make. like the splash they create. the way they exaggerate. or the surprises they initiate. otezla. it's a choice you can make. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, you can achieve clearer skin with otezla. for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. otezla can cause serious allergic reactions. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression

or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. before & bath fitter. now's the time to call bath fitter to get a beautiful "after." with our unique tub over tub process, there's no mess or stress. bath fitter. it just fits. visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation. ♪ ♪ some days, it felt like asthma was holding me back. but asthma has taken enough. so i go triple... with trelegy. with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler,...

it's the only once-daily treatment for adults that takes triple action against asthma symptoms. trelegy helps make breathing easier,... improves lung function,... and lasts for 24 hours. go triple... go trelegy. because asthma has taken enough. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler... for sudden breathing problems. trelegy contains a medicine that increases risk of hospitalizations and death from asthma problems when used alone. when this medicine is used with an inhaled corticosteroid,... like in trelegy,... there is not a significant increased risk of these events. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase risk of thrush and infections. get emergency care for serious allergic reactions. see your doctor if your asthma does not improve or gets worse. don't let asthma take another breath. go triple. go trelegy. ask your doctor about trelegy today. this tiny payment thing- is a giant pain! hi ladies! alex from u.s. bank! can she help? how about a comprehensive point of sale system... that can track inventory, manage schedules- and customize orders? that's what u.s. bank business essentials is for.

(oven explosion) what about a new oven, can u.s. bank help us there? we can serve loans in as fast as 12 minutes. that would be a big help! huge! jumbo! ginormous! woo! -woo! finding ways to make your business boom. that's what u.s. bank is for. we'll get there together. >> > countless people. countless. they have tried to understand donald trump, but few have gotten the insight, and the access, that maggie haberman has. in her new book, mackay recounts how, during one of their many interviews, trump gesture towards her and said,

quote, i love being with her, she is like my psychiatrist. maggie haberman is back with me, now. you don't see yourself that way, as trump psychiatrist, i assume. >> no, and i don't think he does either. i think he said this to flatter. it is the kind of thing he has said -- hello? jake? hello? >> i can't hear her. i don't know if that's on my end or what's going on. can you hear her? okay, i'm having some trouble. we are going to take a quick break, we will be right back. >> tech: at safelite, we take care of vehicles with the latest technology. we can replace your windshield ...and recalibrate your safety system. >> customer: and they recycled my old glass. >> tech: don't wait. schedule today. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

♪ my relationship with my credit cards wasn't good. i got into debt in college and, no matter how much i paid, it followed me everywhere. between the high interest, the fees... i felt trapped. debt, debt, debt. so i broke up with my credit card debt and consolidated it into a low-rate personal loan from sofi. i finally feel like a grown-up. break up with bad credit card debt. get a personal loan with no fees, low fixed rates, and borrow up to $100k. go to sofi.com to view your rate. sofi. get your money right. ♪

sorry about the technical problems. maggie haberman, back with me now. maggie, trump calling you his psychiatrist, what was your reaction to that? how do you see yourself? >> i don't think that it was a line that he meant, jake. i think that he intends to flatter, and in number of any other interviews, about his twitter feed, or his rallies, and the reality is, he had been there with his psychiatrist, and is working it out in front of all of us. his staff, his advisers,'s rally goers, his

friends, in realtime. >> i have to acknowledge, and this is a friend of yours, but it admirer of your reporting, and your work ethic, he attacks you all the time. even though he, obviously, wants, and craves, your respect so much. he says things like this about you at rallies. >> who is with the new york times? i hope it's not maggie haberman, or parker. they aren't legit. >> they don't know me. they don't. i haven't seen them, i haven't spoken to her in a year and a half. >> maggie haberman gets a pulitzer, but she's a third reporter. >> i mean, you are a fantastic supporter, but you've got the pullitzer prize for covering him. what do you make of that? it was really wanting to approve it. >> he wants the new york times to approve of him. i did happen to be the person who covers him more than others at this paper. i knew him before he was a candidate, so i think that's part of it. i really cannot overstate how much his fixation on t