this is a friend of yours, but it admirer of your reporting, and your work ethic, he attacks you all the time. even though he, obviously, wants, and craves, your respect so much. he says things like this about you at rallies. >> who is with the new york times? i hope it's not maggie haberman, or parker. they aren't legit. >> they don't know me. they don't. i haven't seen them, i haven't spoken to her in a year and a half. >> maggie haberman gets a pulitzer, but she's a third reporter. >> i mean, you are a fantastic supporter, but you've got the pullitzer prize for covering him. what do you make of that? it was really wanting to approve it. >> he wants the new york times to approve of him. i did happen to be the person who covers him more than others at this paper. i knew him before he was a candidate, so i think that's part of it. i really cannot overstate how much his fixation on the paper drives this.

>> do you think you have a better understanding of him, now that you have written this book? i should note, for people, the book does not start with inauguration day on 2017. it goes back to his family, his roots, his father, fred, who, no offense, sounds like an awful dad to have. do you think you understand him better now, having plunged into his background more for this book? >> i think there are parts of him that i understand better than before, but the goal had always been, because i come from new york, and i have covered new york politics, and aspects of new york's various systems for a long time, i think the goal had always been to try to show the animating forces. which i understood before, about the world he came from, and what has shaped him, and how he exported that to washington d. c., to the white house, and to the republican party. it lives on in our

politics. it was understanding, previously, that i have a richer understanding of certain aspects >> it's a fantastic book. number one on the u. s. bestsellers list. i recommend to everyone. even if you know everything you want to know about donald trump, it is great. maggie, always great to have you on. >> jake, thank you. >> thank you so much for joining me tonight. you can follow me on facebook, instagram, twitter, and tiktok at jake tapper. tomorrow, we will have on iranian born actress, naza dean bony adi. she is in the series, the lord of the rings, the reigns of power, on amazon prime. she will be here. she is also an ambassador for amnesty international. she is going to join me after a meeting tomorrow vice president harris, to discuss the human rights protexsts in iran, which is one

of most important developments of the year. that is tomorrow, at 9 pm eastern. please join us, our coverage continues with the fantastical our coats. the amazing alisyn camerota. laura coates. how are you guys doing? >> we are doing well, fabulous jake tapper. we appreciate the toss. we have been watching your show, fascinating, particularly, in this never before seen footage. jake, thank you. >> thank you. >> we have more of our special live coverage of the january six committee hearing, and this never before seen documentary footage. good evening everyone, i'm alisyn camerota >> i'm laura coates, this is cnn tonight, and you're right, bombshell is the word for it. the committee saved its best for last, and with former president donald trump. i have to say, that is saving the best for last. but, is there already a spoiler alert? they're not going to show up? >> i think that they might have some recourse, but we will ask our legal experts about that. definitely, it was a finale that they had planned. i thought that that footage was riveting, and was appalling, and i could have watched it for hours.

>> i watched it, and what a contrast. last time we heard about what donald trump is doing, what mark meadows is doing, but picture it. it's like golden girls. picture it, january 6th. you have mark meadows, scrolling on his cell phone. give the president of the united states not doing anything. nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, chuck schumer, everyone who was in leadership gathering around, calling everyone in this phone tree. i thought it was unbelievable to see. >> i also thought that there were stunningly composed, and collected. really, remarkable to see. they are calm, versus the medieval, blood thirsty mob. the juxtaposition. of those two things. >> do you remember the officer who got so much credit, as he should have, for playing a d coin, steering them away? when you saw the angle from, the vantage point of what he was up against in that moment. and a lot of it, we had seen some part before. so, what we saw

what he was up against, and trying to keep them all safe, i just could not believe. it is unbelievable. >> so, d. c. has requested the national guard, and has been denied by d. o. d.. i would like to know a good reason why. i apologize. >> don't apologize. please. >> please, the whole capitol is a rampage. there are some sitting in the chair and the senate. there has been shots fired, and we need a full national guard component, right now. was it denied at first? okay, then i won't -- we need them fast. we need it. we are like a third world country here. we have to run and evacuate the capitol. 400 congressman, and 200 senators,

as well as staff. we need help, right away. >> let's bring in our panel, we have elliott williams, olivia troye, and david urban with us, tonight. elliott, i just start with you. legally, what has changed now that we've seen all this? >> now that a lot has changed, legally, to paraphrase taylor swift here, we are never ever, ever, seeing the testimony of donald trump before the january six committee. it was a powerful statement, it is congress saying that they will issue a subpoena to affirm a former president of the united states, but will not get him to show up. number one, the clock, they don't have enough time. >> what is the recourse? how can they enforce the subpoena? >> number one, they can sue him, we can file contempt resolutions and vote on it, and send it to the justice department. the justice department can charge him with contempt of congress, now the question is, that is going to be a legal fight. whether you like donald, trump or not, he is going to challenge it. he has a right to challenge it.

he's actually got a basis for it he's the former president of the united states. >> the democracy of the united states, and with the red tape, and bannon was referred for criminal content. of it was a grand jury, and a trial in july, and that is not what we are looking at right now. >> there is one thing to remember. you still have to give him an opportunity to not comply with the subpoena. right now, they have just voted on it, and look, you know that he is not going to be on it >> you have to see what he does. so does he write a nasty letter saying, i will never ever come in? does he, simply, blow them off? so, at a minimum, you have to give him a couple days, or weeks to see how it plays out. >> to ignore the subpoena, and it is out of florida, right? this is the reason why they fast-tracked. it was to go from requests to -- boom. >> rather curiously, yes, we haven't seen that kind of behavior before but the problem is, you can't charge him with a crime right now, for this,

until they misbehave it was going to assume that they could do it, but you have to wait before that happens. >> we're going back to the super compelling video, because there are so many stunning moments, and it's jaw-dropping. one of them was seeing all the top lawmakers, on the country, together, in one circle. republicans, democrats, everybody from scalise, to nancy pelosi. all there, talking to the secretary of defense about what to do. let me play this moment. >> [noise] >> we are in one hell of a hurry, you understand? >> i hear you loud and clear. >> this can't be that we are waiting for so-and-so. we need them there, right now, whatever you've got. >> we're waiting for something, or some other entity, because we are under siege there laying

there, and go into deployment. so, it is some leader of the national guards there, and how they can not be given the authority to be activated. >> at that point, to pretend that it is the pentagon, it was a government building under siege. what was that? what was it? it is how this went striking. it was good have been back, and would've put a plan in motion, and they would still send people right away, right? >> it had bothered me from day one. when i had woken up january 6th, and it was with the layout of threats online, and the days of congress where they were sending these messages. they were fully aware of the threat landscape, and it was the secretary of defense of messaging is occupying the capital. they can do this, they

could do that, but everyone was aware of this. the leadership of the country, and in real time, begging for help. >> congressman adam schiff were coming up with us. so, it was a secret service -- >> so, it is the former experts but the fbi had this information, which they passed on to the services. that goes across chat boards to the metropolitan police department, the u.s. capitol police, the secret service, everything in d. c. knew this happened. it was part of the january 6th hearings, and is getting with it. >> you are an expert in homeland security. why weren't they better prepared? >> it wasn't an intelligence failure. they were all there, at the tells was there, and it was a failure to act on the intelligence. >> why wasn't the capitol police prepared? >> that may be part of the report. we obviously talk about a report into television media, and it was many people pushing

back. you can recall the meeting from hurricane ian, to get as many eyes, and focuses on this. we will hear about those details, and is an oversight function. but, just take a step back for what they are seeing. one of the people they mentioned is the commander in chief. it they kept saying these words at the instigation of the president of the united states. i kept thinking, was secret service, they were implying that they were also against the officers, and then didn't do anything about it, they want to see this happen, why would that be? >> it was all failure of intelligence. whose failures of planning. it was the secretary of defense, and they're sitting at the pentagon with the soldiers, in uniform, and be prepared to fight wars to do policing actions. the national guard doesn't have that role. there is a failure, on many parts here, and this failure on tape is mind-boggling. the january six committee had

played back, setback, and not done anything. >> i wonder -- >> do you think it would've been more effective? what do you think? >> in terms of not having witnesses or -- >> we are all talking about -- it. >> all 40 minutes plus, the whole hour -- >> it is hard to know what resonates with people. to some extent, what you said, what we are building towards, is a big report that plays out the facts of the day. so, getting back to your point, i just feel like we, in america, woke up prior to january 6th. we woke up on september 10th 2011, just assuming that things can't happen in the united states of america. it was the stem fro m the fact that this would not, simply, happen, and did not think that people would rub feces on the walls, and with all these salacious facts that

have come out. it was our sense of safety, and it is baked into us from americans. that got broken that day. >> i want to talk about one human moment that the tapes reveal. it is, once again, left and right, democrats, republicans, trying to figure out that tries to keep democracies intact. this is a moment where speaker pelosi is talking to vice president pence, and saying, are you okay? it is a shared moment of humanity. are you safe? are you okay? don't tell anyone where you are. let's play that . >> hand me the phone. hi, mister vice president? hi, we are okay. we are here with mr. schumer, mr. mcconnell, the leadership, house and senate, and how are you? oh my goodness. where are you? god bless you. are you safe? it's still not safe enough for us to go back. we have been told it could take days to clear the

capitol, and that we should be moving everyone here to get the job done. we are at -- which has facilities for the house, and senate, to meet. but we would rather go to the capitol to do it there. it doesn't seem to be safe. we have gotten a very bad report about the conditions of the house floor. there is defecation, all of that kind of thing. okay, call us back. i worry about you being in that capitol building. do not let anybody know where you are. >> there is so much there. >> so much. >> i worry about you, god bless you, i'm going to eat a slim jim. >> mike pence was still in the garage, still in the capitol. >> there is so much in that moment, olivia. you know, of course, vice president pence quite well. it was anything

that comes to the house, and what i saw there is little leadership, and it is two leaders talking in a moment of crisis supporting each other. going in, checking on each other, and saying that we are going to get through, this it will be okay. it was all that mattered, and it wouldn't should be. he was seeing the leaders, and cabinet members that are working for, in that moment, it was going to get together and donald trump is cheerng these people on. i think that is so striking. >> there is footage in this moment, and the reason why we have this inside perspective, and it was the daughter of nancy pelosi, a well-known documentarian. he happened to be, they're trying to capture the moment that we expected to have a peaceful transfer of power, and then, it turned. that is why we have it right here. it's unbelievable. >> i wish it explained a little bit more than mike pence side of it. you know, mike pence had to evacuate. he was the secret

who were very concerned about him. you saw, from this footage, and he wasn't part of this. they come back to pelosi, and it was with this, and they are just being clear. they take charge, and it was worth it. >> we're gonna play after this break, several stick around, we have much more to talk about, we want to hear from you, what are your thoughts. it was anything else that they want to say, and twitter search alison camerota . >> well, not anything. but within reason.

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so ditch the old way of selling your car and say hello to the new way at carvana it's amazing to see these videos. really, it is. thinking about what it was actually like for the democrats, for the republicans, who are working together, i might add. to keep the government functioning. actually, putting a role that they would play on that day, while it's playing out on the capitol, on law enforcement, and are trying to prevent this peaceful, peaceful, transition of power. as we came to know here, in the united states, and who did nothing to stop them in these videos, and through the presentation of evidence? the president of the united states. the commander and chief. eliott williams, olivia troye, david urban, all back with us. it's unbelievable. >> what i was also struck by how close it came to not

happening. there were moments there where nancy pelosi, and chuck schumer, where they don't think it's going to happen that day. >> they don't think that the certification is going to happen. we are being told, we will get back in there for many weeks, and there is so much damage, and they think it won't happen. then, there is the moment that we are talking about before, which is vice pence -- >> mike pence! >> vice president pence calls them and gives them, what they describe, is incredibly good news. here is that moment. >> i am literally standing with the u.s. capitol police, and he just informed me, to their best information is that they believe that the house, and the senate, we will be able to reconvene in roughly an hour. >> good news! >> what a moment. what a relief. >> a round of applause for mike pence. >> talk about why that is so important, whether talk about it, nancy pelosi there saying, if they don't get this done -- and i'm paraphrasing. if they don't get this done, it will be

that we have failed. it is a complete victory for them. remember, pence refused to leave the capitol. they wanted this image, on behalf of the united states and the world, right now, is happening. they had to stay there, and get the job done. >> they had to do that. >> there is another clip, earlier, where i'm paraphrasing here, there is a show of strength or paraphrasing here, and the continuity to government. there is this idea that america, things happened that we happened with torture, more like you said, third world countries, using the term he used. if we saw that happened, all those newspapers, all those television networks will be blasting there for what's happening. >> the peaceful transition of power is a hallmark of our nation. a hallmark. >> for the republican point of view, when you see that vice president pence stayed there, because he knew he had to be done, there is a moment and

this documentary footage where they say that what mitch wants this done today. >> mitch mcconnell knows the importance of it being torn all of the leaders that we hear know the importance of getting a ton. then, to see the evolution, if that's what you wanna call it, from kevin mccarthy's right now, if he doesn't comply with the subpoena for january 6th. he now seems to have amnesia about some parts of that night. how do you explain it? >> i think separating the committee from what happened after. the committee, i think, is a very partisan -- >> how else do you want to get to the bottom of it without the committee? >> i understand. they could've done a lot of different ways. i think the committee should have been like a 9/11 commission, where it is bipartisan, there is a lot of different -- >> they had that chance. >> i understand -- listen. i sat here through the mueller investigation, and true two impeachments, so, the problem is, when you cry wolf so many times, and the wolf shows up like it did on january 6th, americans don't listen. the wall showed up. >> let me make a counter point.

if i commit an act of arson, today, robbery next week, theft, and larceny, the week after that, you cannot say that there was four different investigations, and they don't all make sense, and they all start pulling together. each of them, independently, is a serious event. >> the mueller investigation, what -- >> exactly, yes -- >> the steele dossier didn't exist, it didn't. >> there is a lot more about the mueller report. >> it was built on -- it was built on a lie. >> this sounds like a deflection. >> i'm not! i'm saying, january 6th is serious. >> this is why i want to be very clear. i am not trying to compartmentalize, and i am not trying to make it seem like there aren't moments to have actual valid points to talk about the criticism. but, what you saw, on january 6th, is a very different matter than the mueller probe. >> absolutely, that's my point too. >> you are making that point. >> my point is, january 6th is

such a serious date, and if we didn't have these preceding, sham, political impeachments -- >> that's why mccarthy has amnesia? >> that's why he doesn't want to participate. he saw it as an extension of politics. that's what i see. >> it was seeing elected officials there, getting back to this question about, the human moment between politicians. there is a lot of theater, and artifice, and is put on a show, and an act. i think because kevin mccarthy was frightened, it was how is rolled on them. that's how they lead to the change of heart. but, it is private conversations where they really do them. >> if you don't think that january 6th -- this investigation, this particular thing that we're watching, is political, and partisan, i don't think -- 50% of americans. >> here's one from the rose garden, for a second. let's talk about the idea of how politics come to play. watch this, tell me what you think. >> this was a fraudulent election. but, we can't play into the hands of those people.

we need to have peace so, go home, we love you, you are very special. >> we issued a statement saying, you have to make a statement, and come up with this bs. >> insurrection. that is a crime. he's guilty of it. >> we love you, you're very special. >> why isn't -- >> they were criminals. they were criminals. >> my point is, what it does remind you to bring up the mueller probe? >> because we are talking about what allison said. why do you think mccarthy didn't comply, and participate with this? because mccarthy, and many republicans, see this as a another, political -- >> wait to second, wait a second. >> not this. let's be clear. the people who did, that what you saw, are criminals, and should be prosecuted. they will be prosecuted. they should go to jail. full stop. >> you have been consistent on

that too. >> can i say something about that from the national security standpoint? that, actually, gives me grave concern going forward, with having republicans in office, and leadership, if that is how they view what is, basically, a domestic terrorism attack on our soil, and they are not going to investigate it, because it is a political game show, and sham, and it's partisan. that is what worries me about the future. >> when we talk about this as partisan, it is the line from animal farm, we're all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. some republicans are equal, but some are more republican than others, because, literally, this is a bipartisan committee. david, whether we like that liz cheney, and adam kinzinger don't play the party line on this issue, they are republicans. this idea, in order to be a republican, one ought to be lockstep with donald trump, i'm not a politics person, and i think it is toxic to the party. there is a dispute with this.

trump got mad at mccarthy for not putting more republicans on the committee. he wanted more people there to participate, and have a defense. i think america would have been better served if there was a robust contingent of republicans, on this panel, who could have cross-examined, had their day, and then maybe mccarthy would've participated. >> they made their choice in any event -- >> trump might have a stay if, he comes in. >> listen, he may show up. don't underestimate the sky. he may show up. >> on that note, it's interesting. how did the committee decide to subpoena donald trump? how will they enforce it? congressman adam schiff, here, live, with us.

after all of this, there are big questions about what will happen next after the january six committee has voted to subpoena the former president of the united states. we had

learned a whole lot today from the brand new evidence of the committee, uncovered, and told the american people. congressman adam schiff, laying out some of the damning details. >> days before january 6th, the president senior advisers at the department of justice, and fbi, for example, received an intelligence summary, that included material, indicating that certain people, traveling to washington, were making plans to attack the capitol. this summary noted online calls that they would occupy federal buildings. rhetoric, about invading the capitol building. >> they said, during one of these calls, that the greatest threat to the direct assault on the capitol. >> their plan, literally, is to kill people. our lawmakers in congress can lead one of two ways. one, in a body bag. two, after, rightfully, certifying trump the winner.

>> congressman adam schiff, joining us now. congressman, i have to say, when i was watching this, and seen this unfold, seeing the text messages, the emails, it was advanced notice. a secret service. i couldn't believe that this was known, and wasn't, a, prevented, put the, that they want to bring the president of the united states in this area. what are the next steps, now that we have the subpoena voted on? are you going to try to get more people, aside from the former president, to talk about this? >> well, first of all, you are absolutely right. it is shocking when you see, in vivid detail, the information that the secret service had. not only, generally, about the violence intended to target the capitol, but also, at their own protectees, and most, particularly, the vice president of the united states. and that they, would even, entertain, or allow, the president to entertain, for hours, the idea that he was

going to go to the capitol, with this armed mob. really, it is very startling. yes, we intend to bring people back in from the secret service. some, who may have testified, in ways that we don't find credible, now that we have documentary evidence, and what they haven't heard from as well. so, we intend to follow up in that way, and, instead, the big witness we want to hear from is the former president, himself. >> yes, i do want to get to that congressman. i do want to ask, you one of these things about the secret service. what do they do about those threats? since we presented this evidence, they knew they had a heads up. they knew that they were directing threats, against members of congress, ten days or more. >> the morning of, in some cases. >> they had, for days, knew about this. so, why didn't they do anything? what shouldn't they have done? did they lie? did some secret service agents lie to the committee about this? >> well, that is a very good

question. we are trying to determine whether people were candid with us, when they testified before. we, are also, looking into issues which i can't go into the particulars but, there may have been efforts to obstruct, our getting information about some of the incidents that we are talking about, in a hearing today. so, there is more to get to the bottom of, and in terms of why they didn't do more to try to protect those that they are meant to safeguard, and guard, it is a very good question. they have all of this information, but, again, i think that some of the most powerful evidence is the fact that the secret service told the president, on the mall, that day, the people wouldn't go through the metal detectors because they were armed, and did not want to give up their weapons. he was okay with that. in fact, he was fine with them go into the capitol with their weapons. he was incensed he couldn't go with them. >> at that point, earlier

testimony, it was going to be with me. it was the concern with that, and it was marching towards the capital which, of course, congressman, liz cheney, began the hearing today, in part, talking about how today would be on the state of mind of the former president. you and i, both attorneys, former prosecutors, we're talking about the state of mind conversation. obviously, the best evidence is going through the proverbial horses mouth. do you think that there is a chance, and they were voted on, unanimously, of the committee. there, actually, is going to, a,

show up, or b, provide any documents? >> first of all, i think that they are the most powerful evidence of the horse's mouth. it was one of the most critical pieces of it. that is when the president was confronted, it is the fact that these people are armed. they say that they are not here to hurt me. he is okay with the marching on the capitol, because he knows where their violence is directed. we are also presented, today, i think, powerful evidence in the presidents intent, and their top justice department, people are going through the litany of his bogus claims of fraud, shooting them down, one after another. what is the president's response say that the election is corrupt, leave the rest to me, and they d o hope that the president will come in, and answer to present, and answer questions as people, and many other presidents had? as well as former presidents in the arms as they will. it is really can't say. they may be too scared to be under oath, and to testify, they had hoped, of course, that they would have some sense of duty, and this as

other presidents have. but only time will tell. >> what was the plan? what was a plan if he doesn't comply? >> it was going to talk about it. it is to presuppose that the president will b e unwilling, and we hope he will following on the path of the other presidents have. but, if they doesn't, and they decided to come into what the next step will be. >> congressman, we didn't hear from what they interviewed as part of the panel, since the last we heard on the january six committee, steve mnuchin, ginni thomas, the life of the supreme court justice, clarence thomas, will we be hearing, and an additional hearing by some kind, and it will be part of the proof that is written from the likes of ginni thomas, and others. >> we may do another hearing ,

where we talk about our findings and recommendations in terms of protecting the country going forward. i think that they would expect that the report would be a traditional report, in the sense would be a report on paper. so, it would be a living report online, as well, in which he will have it was the transcripts that you can peruse. so, a lot of information that we couldn't get to illicit, because we only have so many hearings, and we gathered a mountain of evidence. you will hear, either released prior to our report in discreet pieces, or, you will hear as a part of our report. >> congressman, was this the last hearing? >> i do not know, for sure. i had hoped that we would do a public hearing, of some kind. to go over these are the findings that we have made, these are recommendations, and we are going to be discussing that there would be criminal referrals, and we will be

reaching a decision on that. i don't know whether we will make those as a presentation of those decisions in a public setting, or not. those are the things that we will have to decide as a committee. >> let me ask you one final question on this issue, because we have been playing some exclusive footage, here today, on cnn, they captured some of the behind the scenes of what is going on in the capital when the people were trying to enter, we're breaking in, and were committing awful crimes, the things that they were doing. so, i'm wondering what you make of, and part of what we saw today in the hearing that you played, what was your reaction to that vantage point? obviously, as their own, with those being there on the scene, but what was it like for you to see the bipartisan leadership and excluding because he was not involved, with the commander-in-chief? >> well, this is what is so striking to me. when you have, for example, that scene is where the speaker is learning that the session was

interrupted, that members are getting out their gas masks, and she is incredulous about what is happening. and, there they are, they are trying to summon resources to help rescue those of us that are in the capital. they're calling the virginia governor, and those state guards, and those guards coming in, and talking about the head of the police in the washington d. c.. they're doing everything they can. but the democratic leadership, republican leadership, all while donald trump is sitting in the white house dining room. watching it unfold, on tv, doing nothing, doing absolutely nothing. that contrast, everyone, rushing to try to aid the police that are getting beaten, and some would lose their lives, members in danger, and there is donald trump, just watching it don' t lift a

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>> > the select committee revealing today in stark detail how the secret service received plenty of warnings prior to january six about threats of violence at the capitol that day, including online threats against then vice presiden t mike pence. let's bring in jonathan wackgrow, a former secret service agent and john miller, cnn chief law enforcement analyst. gentlemgret understand, if they had credible threats against members of congress and the sitting vice president, which they have done before january six? >> the secret service manages every single day in a threat environment. every single day, there are threats that are coming into the white house, to the secret service, to field

offices, and agents around the globe are assessing the means, opportunity and intent for that threat to actually materialize. >> but those ten days leading up to this, you don't think we are in a different category? >> we were, and they were doing things. they were doing things. they assessed that the threats to the environment ungenerous at the ellipse, so let's take this into phases, first it's the events at the ellipse the presidential event and then what happened at the u.s. capitol. they had time to prepare, identify threats, identify vulnerabilities and then put the right control measures in place for the event. >> and yet, we saw an insurrection and the secret service likely tried to bring the president into it. i think the people hearing it, the disconnect of what went wrong because obviously there was a failure. >> but actually it wasn't a failure. here's why, when you think about this for the secret service. when they have to make a decision whether or not to bring the president up to the u.s. capitol, they did a threat assessment and realized that

the likelihood and consequence was so great that violence would occur that they could not bring the president there. in the first part, they felt that they control the environment at the ellipse. he was behind ballistic glass, he was in an armored vehicle. they had magnetometer's, they controlled the environment. what they did not control was what was going on at the capitol and knowing now that there was this violent crowd outside the perimeter that was going to shift up. >> john? >> it's interesting because usually the secret service, and on this day, their primary concern is protecting the president. the threat was not really against the president that day. >> right, poor vice president -- >> they key intel assessment and planning really fell to the capitol police and d. c. metro, primarily the capitol police. the chief of the capitol police looked at the january 3rd intel

assessment that said militia groups, white supremacists coming armed, target is congress and met with the leadership and set, i think we need the national guard. the best he got was, talk to the national guard and tell them to be on standby, which means hours away, if they are not mobilized and in place. >> but talking about the coordination, that is my concern. so the secret service has intel and advance -- >> but the secret service is not protecting congress. >> that is true, but what in there have been some sort of law enforcement or moral obligation to say let's corner and figure out what the problem is? that's a question. >> they did, the secret service is talking to the capitol, the capitol and secret service or talking to the fbi, everybody is getting the same intel. the real failure here is one that i think is hard to blame on anybody because all the intel said what the bad guys are going to do, stormed the capitol. what the intel did not say, and i don't believe it could have, because i supplied intel as deputy commissioner of intel to the nypd to the capitol police about what was coming to the capitol, along with everyone else, no one could have predicted that the sitting president of the united

states of america would stand on a corner a couple miles down from the capitol and bring route to a crescendo by saying, essentially, you've got to march down there and take this thing back in sum and substance. >> a really important point you race. up next, i want you to hear what nancy pelosi said about the then president right before the moment you talk about or before that insurrection a moment. so cnn (vo) you can be well-groomed. or even well-spoken. (man) ooooooo. (vo) but there's just something about being well-adventured. (man) wahoooooo! (vo) adventure on a deeper level. discover more in the subaru forester wilderness. love. it's what makes subaru, subaru. subaru is the national park foundation's largest corporate donor.

>> > so cnn has this exclusive never before seen footage that shows how congressional leadership was scrambling to save the capitol as rioters were running wild. here is the moment that speaker the house nancy pelosi was talking to then acting attorney general jeffrey rosen about the risk to human life. >> the concern we have about

personal harm, personal >> safety >> just transcends everything, but the fact is, on any given day, they are breaking the law in many different ways. >> i mean, that's a part, you think about how this would have lasting consequence, that was the matter for so many people, watching in realtime. the idea of what is the doj going to do about this? the question lingered. what i normally appreciate in terms of true feelings in that moment, not that i agree with any violence, is the idea here when you heard speaker pelosi in this never before seen footage, we hear talking about, this raw state have a motion, was she planned to do if the then president went to the capitol, you got to see this. >> secret service said they have dissuaded him from the capitol hill. they said they don't have the resources to protect him here, so at the moment, he is not coming, but that could change. >> if he comes, i will punch him out. >> i will pay to see. that >> we were waiting for this, for trespassing on capitol

grounds. i will punch him out, i'm going to go to jail, and we will be happy. >> why i thought that moment was supporting it, not because they support her statement, but it was the idea of so often, that's why documents are so important, it was the brought a motion of what you felt. the camera was there, what was really going on. that's what me as a member of the electorate and you are wanted to know, what were you thinking? we know what we were thinking in the moment watching in her. it was unbelievable to see that rawness. >> i think that this documentary footage is so valuable on so many levels, historically and setting the record straight. you have to remember, there were all sorts of right-wing host who tried to pivot away from donald trump's complete abdication of any sort of responsibility. what was nancy pelosi doing that day? where was she? let me remind everybody of the chorus. >> what did you do on january six? pelosi? did you do anything? >> laughable now. now you watch this footage, it's laughable. what she was doing for those

hours and what all -- we have seen all the various leaders around her of congress trying to get back in there, trying to certify the vote, but i am so glad that this exists to tell the radio hosts of the world, what was she doing? every minute, she was fighting against that mob somehow. >> she was fighting, unbelievable. >> tell us what you think. you can tweet us @alisyncamerota and @thelauracoates. here is what one viewer is telling us. this is heartbreaking, these videos. i think of john president kennedy's quote - the ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security for all. >> much more ahead. who exactly was the committee speaking to today, is the big question. did they make their argument effectively? stay with us. >> customer: and they recycled my old glass. >> tech: don't wait. schedule today. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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