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good afternoon. i'm erica hill. welcome to "cnn newsroom." >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you. former president trump is responding to his soon to be served subpoena from the january 6th committee. he's not yet saying if he will comply with the demand for documents and testimony, instead
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in a lengthy letter with indiscriminate capitalization committee chair bennie thompson sends it to him and trump doubled down on fraudulent claims that the 2020 election was stolen. a reminder, it was not. >> facts. once the subpoena is formally issued there will be specific deadlines for when the former president must testify. if he defies it, he could then be held in contempt of congress. yesterday's subpoena vote was the committee's mic drop moment before the november midterms. they also, though, used that final hearing to share new evidence from secret service communications, leading up to the capitol riot. and showed never before seen footage of congressional leaders scrambling to respond to the attacks from a makeshift bunker. >> cnn justice correspondent jessica schneider joins us live now. tell us more about new evidence that was revealed. >> well, victor, and erica, the biggest new evidence was all of that new video from congressional leaders behind the scenes, figuring out how to regain order at the capitol and working the phones really to get
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a large enough law enforcement response to take back the capitol. but on top of that, we also got even more information about how extensive trump's efforts were to cast doubt on the election, and how law enforcement did in fact have details about the violence that was planned on january 6th. so, first of all, we saw new testimony from the top aide to trump's chief of staff, cassidy hutchinson, she explained she was told that trump knew he lost, but was determined to keep fighting. and, in fact, trump's plans to declare victory no matter what, it was well known to his allies and other officials, even before the 2020 election. in fact, we saw memos from late october which said that trump would say the election was rigged if he lost. that was days before the election itself. and then on the law enforcement side, we saw several alerts and emails from secret service, one in particular was from december 26th, and it relayed that they had intelligence that members of the proud boys were planning to come to washington, and this
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alert said this, it said they will outnumber police so they can't be stopped and it continued on to say their plan is literally to kill people. so, a lot of this, erica and victor, laid out by the committee, in what was this last hearing before the midterms and one, especially that was notable, since they voted to subpoena the former president, several huge developments yesterday. >> yeah, there really are. in terms of that vote, to subpoena the president, what happens next? give us the chain of events at this point. >> so they voted to issue the subpoena, still needs to be officially voted on to issue it. there are several options here. trump, of course, could choose to comply. though the defiance we have seen on all levels from the former president makes that seem very unlikely. so if in fact trump refuses, there is really two options here. the trump -- the house could take trump to court for a legal battle, but that could stretch an extremely long time. or as is likely to happen, the full house could vote to hold them in contempt of congress.
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that's something we have seen them do to several reluctant witnesses. in fact, steve bannon was recently convicted for not complying with his subpoena. he'll be sentenced this month. and once the full house votes, what they do is they refer that contempt to the justice department and doj could then choose to prosecute like they did with bannon. but, you know, erica and victor, that chain of events is very unlikely to happen, especially because it is the former president. we have seen referrals to the doj for other people like mark meadows and dan scavino. doj has chosen so far not to prosecute. so very unlikely we can see any sort of prosecution for the former president if he didn't comply here. guys? >> we'll be watching. jessica schneider, appreciate it, thank you. joining us now to discuss cnn's senior legal analyst elie honig, and stephanie grisham, white house press secretary in the trump administration. good to see you both this afternoon. elie, i found it interesting, you wrote today the committee has done its job, the question now is whether the justice department will do the same.
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does all the focus now shift at this point? >> i think it does, erica, for people who are concerned with actual serious consequences for the people behind this coup attempt. look, the committee in the big view to me did a remarkable job. i think better than expected in introducing all sorts of new evidence, things we didn't know about if you think back to the first impeachment back in early 2021. they gave us new testimony, new documents, really incriminating compelling materials. doj now has all of those documents. and the committee's work is basically done now. they may issue a criminal referral, but ultimately that doesn't really have any legally binding impact, will issue a report, but if people want to sequences beyond paper, beyond reports, beyond findings, it is up to doj. you saw a virtually explicit call by the committee on doj, now it is your turn. >> stephanie, yesterday's hearing was one part new
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revelation, another part closing argument. this was actually a hybrid, i think, of the two. the exchange played over the plan to just claim there was going to be a win for the president regardless of the outcome of the election. i want you to listen here to roger stone and steve bannon. >> i really do suspect it will still be up in the air. when that happens, the key thing to do is to claim victory. possession is nine-tenths of the law. you're wrong, [ bleep ] you. let's get right to the violence. >> the democrats -- more of our people vote early that count. theirs vote in may. they're going to have a natural disadvantage and trump's going to take advantage. that's our strategy. so when you wake up wednesday morning, it is going to be a firestorm. >> post election, were you aware of those conversations that we're just going to claim a w regardless of what's next?
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>> i was not aware of those conversations. i had, you know, left the building and been on the east wing. but it didn't surprise me. you know, in our administration, you just said and repeated over and over the version of the truth donald trump wanted. it doesn't matter if it was real or a lie. so i didn think the committee ws masterful at showing premeditation, not only with roger stone and bannon, but the fact they had that memo from tom feinten on august 31st saying we're just going to say we won and then the fact that mark short, chief of staff to mike pence, had been hearing and was concerned that they were going to just say that trump won. so it didn't surprise me at all. and i think that the committee as i said did a great job. and i agree with elie, they can't do anything legally, but i do think in the court of public opinion, especially with the midterms coming up, you know, that's where the real accountability could be for donald trump is if people, this message is resonating with people and voters.
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>> stephanie, do you think this changed any minds? we don't expect the president's mind to be changed, but in terms of his followers, do you think what we have seen and specifically these closing arguments yesterday are enough to move the needle for some people? >> his followers, no. i have to say, you know, they are -- they're dug in and they're going to always stick with him. but i do believe there are people, especially here in middle america, where i am, and the suburbs, republican women, and more moderate republicans are wanting more of a moral and ethical politician in office. and, you know, above some other things, so i think that, yes, i do believe it will move the needle a little bit with not his supporters, his base, but with just like-minded republicans that are more middle. >> elie, there was a single sentence response from the supreme court that got overshadowed because of the hearing yesterday, denying a request from trump attorneys to get involved in the special master case.
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explain exactly what was denied and the significance of how the supreme court responded. >> so, victor, this is the appeal that relates to the 100 or so classified documents that the fbi seized from mar-a-lago. donald trump had asked that those documents go through the special master and be reviewed for privilege. doj, of course, objected. doj won in the court of appeals. the court of appeals said those 100 classified documents, they should not go to the special master, donald trump does not have a an interest in them and they can use those documents starting right now in their investigation and in their national security review. donald trump, he loses that, and he tries to get it up to the supreme court. and yesterday as you said, victor, the supreme court in one sentence says, no, we're not getting involved, the court of appeals ruling stands. so donald trump has lost this issue. these 100 classified documents will not go to the special master, they are doj's to do what they will with in terms of their investigation. >> one more time on this new
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video we saw yesterday, the new video from alexander pelosi, the speaker's daughter, who was there filming a documentary, kept rolling as all this was unfolding. you have known, and we have heard from first person accounts, from witness testimony about how things were unfolding at the white house in those moments. as we were learning about what was happening at the capitol and other secure areas, but to see it play out, on video, i'm just curious, as you watch that, stephanie what is going through your head when you're seeing for the first time what was happening as opposed to hearing it knowing what you were going through and watching? >> my honest answer is i personally felt extreme guilt because i had been part of something like that for so long, you know. i knew -- i knew before people told me. i knew that he was in that dining room just watching tv and i knew that behind closed doors he was just saying, these are my people, they're fighting for me, let them do it. and he was enjoying it. so to see speaker pelosi and chuck schumer making frantic
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phone calls, it made me feel guilty for having been a part of it. you know that is the day i resigned. but i think for me, personally, feels like it was too little too late. it was really sobering video. i don't know what else to say about that. >> elie, before you go, i want to get your thought on the legal value of potentially where we started today, this letter from former president trump, accompanied by the long list of debunked claims and lies that he has been promoting since the election, is there any value here? >> well, victor, i think all that letter does is confirm what we all suspected, which is that donald trump will not be complying with this subpoena. so, the question then becomes what will the committee do? and jesse schneider accurately outlined the two legal options. they can go to the civil courts and ask a judge to issue a ruling, but that's going to take way too long or they can refer
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criminal prosecution. i think it is unlikely. the committee already, let's keep in mind, they have referred steve bannon and others for potential prosecution, but the committee also decided not refer over kevin mccarthy, jim jordan, their colleagues who they subpoenaed who then blew it off. i think most likely outcome here is the committee chooses door three and says, we're not going to do either of those things, but we're going to have the rhetorical point that, hey, donald trump said he had a problem with this process, he said no one was there to defend him, we commanded him to come in here, and he hid behind this sort of rambling nonsensical four-page letter. >> elie, stephanie, thank you. much more on that newly obtained footage of the bipartisan group of lawmakers scrambling to restore order on january 6th. and nancy pelosi says also what she would do, what she planned to do should the former president made his way to capitol hill. that's next. a court hearing wrapped up moments ago after the sentencing
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house speaker nancy pelosi shown fleeing the u.s. capitol as it was under attack on january 6th. the videos captured by her daughter, alexandra pelosi, a documentary filmmaker. she provided some of her footage to the january 6th select committee, who played clips in their hearing thursday. but in the roughly hour of additional footage obtained exclusively by cnn, we see lawmakers transforming fort mcnair, a military base two miles away, into a command center to communicate with vice president mike pence and others, even considering reconvening the congressional proceedings at the military base. >> we're being told it could take days to clear the capitol, and that we should be moving everyone here to get the job done. there are fills for the house and the senate to meet. we would rather go to the
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capitol and do it there, but it doesn't seem to be safe. >> reporter: while pence evacuated the senate chaimmber,e stayed behind in the capitol with the security detail. >> i worry about you being in the capitol. don't let anybody know where you are. >> i would like to know a good god damn reason why it has been denied. >> reporter: chuck schumer shouting at army secretary ryan mccarthy, after hearing a rumor trump blocked the national guard going to the capitol. >> please, it is the whole capitol is rampaged, there is a picture of someone sitting in this chair of the senate, we have all been evacuated, shots fired. we need a full national guard component now. he said it was denied. i'm going to call up the effing secretary of dod. >> reporter: a group of lawmakers calling acting defense secretary christopher miller urging a faster response. >> getting there in one hell of a hurry, do you understand?
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>> got you loud and clear, leader. >> reporter: pelosi and schumer confronting acting attorney general jeffrey rosen in a heated phone call. >> no, no, no, please answer my question. answer my question. >> senator, i'm going to do everything i can do. >> does that include asking the president to get these people who are followers his to leave the capitol. >> reporter: finally, word coming from pence that it was safe to return. >> i'm literally standing with the u.s. capitol police, he just informed me the best information is they believe that the house and the senate will be able to reconvene in roughly an hour. >> good news. >> reporter: which they did, just after 8:00 p.m. >> let's get back to work. >> reporter: the footage also showing pelosi before the attack. >> let us hope that they will see the light and have their own epiphany on the other side. >> reporter: participating in a video call with house democrats from her conference room.
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the same room that was ransacked hours later by rioters. >> we're going to walk down to the capitol. >> pelosi later seen reacting to trump's speech. >> you can see them marching up. >> reporter: and the rioters making their way toward the capitol. >> they have dissuaded him from coming to capitol hill. they told him they don't have the resources to protect him here. so at the moment he's not coming, but that could change. >> i hope he comes. i'm going to punch him out. i've been waiting for this, for trespassing on the capitol grounds, i want to punch him out and go to jail and i'm going to be happy. >> reporter: i'm going to punch him out and go it jail and i'm going to be happy. those striking words from the speaker of the house talking about the president, who she clearly blamed for what was happening on january 6th. one other moment there i want to point out, that moment of
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compassion that we see between nancy pelosi and the then vice president pence, asking if he's okay, is he safe, don't let anyone know you're there. what we know now is that while that was happening, while she was showing this compassion, president trump, he was tweeting out mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done, which many aides believe added fuel to the fire that day. >> that is something to see all of that. appreciate it, thank you. >> the juxtaposition of seeing pelosi with that zoom call with democratic leaders, and then just right after that, the rioters in that room, and they're sitting there. >> that same room. it is something. and also i still can't get over the moments of the speaker and senator schumer on the phone there, with the vice president, the vice president who we have to remember too had been evacuated as well, trying to make all of this happen as we know what was happening at the white house. >> was watching television. news of another mass shooting tragedy in north
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the latest mass shooting in america ended with five people dead, two more wounded in north
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carolina. among those killed, a mother of three, and an off duty officer. police say the shooter was on the run for more than four hours yesterday, terrorizing neighborhoods in raleigh. >> police say the suspect is a 15-year-old white male, who is in critical condition. it is unclear if those wounds were self-inflicted. also not clear, a motive. >> it is with overwhelming sadness that i address you today, my heart is heavy, because we don't have answers as to why this tragedy occurred. but what i can tell you is that the raleigh police department, and the raleigh community is resilient, and we stand strong and we will heal and we will be stronger as a result of what has occurred. >> cnn's ryan young is live in raleigh. so, ryan, still a lot of questions about the why and the how here. tell us if we're learning any more about the victims. >> reporter: yeah, very tough, erica.
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when you think about this, everyone has questions about the why and this is one of the areas where the shooting happened, look at this trail. it is a beautiful day out here, people are walking and riding their bike, you can see the sign for the river. when we first arrived here, we saw a bunch of police officers doing their investigation. just down this direction, where people have been going back and forth all day. we know this is where one of the shootings happened. when you think about it, neighbors here we have been talking to all afternoon long have been telling us they don't understand why this shooting happened. and when you think about the victims, one of the victims' husband's wrote her a poem and her name is sue carnac and her husband left this note behind, it basically says we had plans together with the boys and we had plans as empty nesters. we had plans together for growing old, always together. now those plans are laid to waste. you can understand that empty feeling that people have in this community right now, because they don't understand why this shooting happened. we have been able to confirm that that young man had two
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guns, one long gun, one handgun. but what people don't know right now is why the shooting had to happen, why a police officer had to lose his life, listen to the mayor talk about why gun violence needs to stop in this country. >> but we have doubled our determination now to end senseless gun violence that has grips on our country, and now on our city. i know that brings us all sadness, and anger. we have to do something. >> reporter: yeah. victor and erica, we wanted to walk through parts of this neighborhood and one of the things we noticed, we're nestled between a golf course. there are people who are still out enjoying their day, who couldn't understand why they couldn't come through here, while police were doing their investigation because they didn't realize the shooting was so close to them. the real question right now is that young man who is obviously still in the hospital, they want to ask the question this
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community, why, why did those gunshots have to ring out yesterday, why did it have to go through more than two miles of this community? so many questions left unanswered. so many things we have to continue to dig on, but police working now to try to get to the bottom of it. >> and so many families forever impacted by those bullets. ryan, thank you. >> thank you, ryan. turning now to the aftermath of the 2018 mass shooting in parkland, florida. a hearing ended just minutes ago. florida state prosecutors told the judge about a juror who was threatened or felt threatened by another juror in the sentencing trial of shooter nikolas cruz. >> prosecutor cannot ignore a phone call that a threat has been made and that the person is frightened and the reason i use the word frightened is that the support staff member who took the call said that the person who left the message was upset, and then said that they seemed
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frightened. >> the judge is now allowing the prosecutor to turn over information to the sheriff's office to investigate. yesterday, family members of the 17 killed in the high school massacre were outraged by the decision to not recommend the death penalty for cruz. my next guest said the jury and the system failed. fred guttenberg's daughter jaime was 14 years old when she was killed. fred, i thank you for being back with me. i was watching as the verdict were being read. by the time they got to jaime, there was a trend on the death penalty versus life. i saw you staring at the ceiling and as it was being read, what were you thinking and feeling? >> first, hi, victor. you know, i spent the past almost five years now getting
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myself ready for this moment, that happened yesterday, mentally and physically. but i guess i didn't get myself ready enough because i really did expect the death penalty. and i just didn't see any way, especially after having sat through the trial, that it could have been anything but. and i was just looking up at the ceiling, kind of toward the sky, and in my head talking to my kid. and, again, apologizing for a system that, again, failed her. that, again, failed everyone who died with her that day. we're going to keep fighting. we're going to keep doing what we can because of what happened to those we love. but, yesterday, the system failed. >> yeah. we have some insight into the deliberations, the jury foreman spoke with cnn's miami affiliate
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about it. he said, and this is a quote, the woman who was a hard no, and that being a no on the death penalty, didn't believe because he was mentally ill, speaking of nikolas cruz, that he should get the death penalty. what is your reaction to that? >> something happened in the jury room, but that particular person, sounds like she may have been a hard no for a long . i sat through every day of that trial. while it is true that nikolas cruz has some documented mental illnesses, not everybody with a documented mental illness turns into a killer. killers turn into killers. evil people turn into killers. and so i rejected completely, he is an evil person with no redeemable value and no purpose left on earth. the truth is he still continues to sit in his jail cell and this evidence was presented at the
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trial, thinking about people he wished he could have killed and would still like to kill. this is not about mental illness, and i find it insulting that the defense put on the case that they did and i would even argue failed because the state did prove their case, and every defense witness fell apart under cross examination. why that juror went to the poplace that they went is up for them to explain, but it is despicable. >> what is your reaction to what happened in the courtroom just a few minutes ago? there is this juror who says they felt threatened by another juror. we don't know if this is the same juror who sent the letter to the judge saying that things became tense earlier on during deliberations where they said that they mentioned that they would vote for life and they felt that there was some pushback, extreme unhappiness in the jury room, but what do you
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think about that claim? >> yeah, well, i listen to the hearing that happened literally just before we came on. it sounds like the state attorney was saying the person who reached out saying there was a threat was not the same juror that you're talking about. so something went on in that jury deliberation. i don't know what it is. but if, in fact, it affected the outcome, we need to know. if any juror felt at risk in that room, we need to know. i don't think it is going to change anything. i think the person who murdered my daughter is going to go to hell on earth, he's going to go to a terrible prison and i think, you know, in one of the strangest moments of the trial, his defense attorney during her closie ing summation said someb in prison will probably just take care of him anyway.
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i hope she was right. >> fred, you said after the decision was read you were going to the cemetery to visit jaime because obviously that's where you have to go because nikolas cruz killed her as you reminded us. what did you say -- >> yeah, and i don't use his name. >> i know you didn't. i am. but what did you say? what did you do when you went there? >> so, i didn't get there yesterday because all of the families and my family and the attorneys stayed at the courthouse until well into the afternoon and then it was pouring rain. i will be going there, though, this evening, when it cools down a little bit. and i'm going to tell jaime the truth. i'm going to tell her what happened. for those who know, i go to the cemetery frequently and if you
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were to ever drive by me and watch, it is -- i have full on conversations with my daughter. and i'm going to tell her the truth. and i'm going to tell her that i will keep fighting for justice, that i will keep fighting to prevent this from happening ever again. i will tell her how much i love her. i will tell her how much i miss her. and i just will tell her i'm sorry that yesterday went the way it did. >> fred, we have spoken many times over these last several years since the shooting and i know that your fight will, even after this decision, will continue. fred guttenberg, thank you. >> thank you. and a rare news conference, russian president vladimir putin is offering a stark new warning about a global catastrophe. more on that next.
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gain ground in kherson in the south. russia says now it will help move civilians in kherson to the r rustov region. how did the comments from putin match up with what is happening there on the ground in ukraine? >> reporter: one of the things we haven't seen a lot of today, regarding vladimir putin's comments as far as the strikes are concerned and the russians not needing the massive strikes, we have seen less russian strikes, the air raid sirens here in the capital kyiv. apparently around the can country it has gone down a little bit. there were some russian strikes in the south of the country that caused some damage there in the southern city called zaporizhzhia. but u.s. officials believe that might have a different reason. they believe that russia burned through large pimm piles of stockpiles of modern weapons, cruise missiles, ballistic misses as well and modern ground vehicles and one of the problems
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the russians appear to also have, the u.s. believes, is replenishing their stocks and that's due to the international sanctions. not just for the u.s., but, of course, also by the u.s.' allies and other countries as well. the russians having a lot of trouble getting modern technology to even build those weapons anymore, computer chips obviously one of the big things that russians are having trouble getting. and the u.s. believes that, you know, the russians are currently trying to find ways to evade the sanctions to get their hands on these things. but it certainly does seem to be proving quite difficult for them. you're right, the russian president saying that the russians don't believe they don't need more of these strikes, but he also gave a strong warning where he said he believes that any confrontation with nato could lead to a catastrophe. let's listen in to what he had to say. >> translator: bringing some nato troops into direct contact into direct clash with the russian army is a very dangerous step. that can lead to a global catastrophe. i hope that those who talk about this will have enough common sense not to take such dangerous
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steps. >> reporter: strong words there from vladimir putin and i was actually able to speak to a ukrainian official about these things that vladimir putin is saying, about the dangers and all this rhetoric also about possible nuclear strikes as well. and he was saying to the ukrainians, that's just not something they can factor in at this point in time. they say they're going to try and continue their counteroffensive to win back as much territory as they can. of course we have noted that one of the places where they're doing that is in the south around kherson. >> fred pleitgen with the latest for us from kyiv. appreciate it fred. a high school class of 2022, listen to this, had the lowest s.a.t. scores in more than 30 years. this is a sign of how much the pandemic impacted education in the u.s. we'll talk about the potential solutions to this troubling slide. next. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. they release medicine fast fofor fast pain relief.
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act test scores among high school seniors are down dramatically this year, in fact, the lowest level since 1991. so the act is one of the standardized tests used for college admissions and while the organization behind the test says scores are been trending down for five years, they note the pandemic likely played a significant role when it comes to what they saw with the class of 2022. the act senior director for state partnerships joins us now. rosa, good to have you with us. there is this increasing evidence we've seen about the lasting impact of the pandemic on students, on children when it comes to learning. this drop, though, if it actually started five years ago, i mean, this must signal a larger issue. >> you're absolutely right, erica. thank you for having me on today to really shine a light on the stories that this data tells not just about the class of 2022 but
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about a long er systemic inequiy in education. when we look at this year's graduating class, the average act score was a 19.8, which drops half a point from the prior year and what that shows us is certainly that this class of 2022, who were sophomores in march 2020 when the pandemic began and schools closed significantly felt the impact of the pandemic on their high school careers. but what we're seeing in terms of this longer trend has to do with five -year decline and single lowest scores we've seen in 30 years. >> if this doesn't make alarm bells for folks at home going off, i don't know what would. more and more we see this data. i want to drill down more. the company said more than 40% of last year's seniors didn't meet any, not a single one of the college readiness
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benchmarks. p proficiency in english, math and science. are these issues being addressed? >> well, i would say the power of the data is what we've always talked about with state schools, districts, educators and with students and families and when we look at the benchmark obtainment, what we're really talking about are standards and skills. key foundational skills students need in their first year of college and careers to be successful. as we look at some of those gaps over this year and over the past years, we're identifying some key areas for improvement and certainly we see this data as one of the puzzle pieces for schools and districts and states to close those gaps. >> appreciate you joining us today. thank you. >> thank you. health officials are increasingly concerned about this year's flu season.
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system breach has testified before the special grand jury investigating efforts to overturn the election results in that state. >> cnn zack cohen is covering these developments for us. what more do we know about this? >> reporter: erica and victor, we're talking about a man named scott hall. scott hall is an operative scene on surveillance video entering the elections office one day after the january 6th insur insurrection. that breach is under criminal investigation in georgia but we also know now that the district attorney investigating efforts by trump and his allies in georgia to overturn the election results there, is specifically looking and gathering evidence about the breach itself. this is really a new phase in the investigation about what we're learning about the criminal investigation in georgia. hall is an interesting character. he's a bail bonds man by trade but a poll watcher after the 2020 election but we're learning, too, now he has contacts with high level republicans in the state of georgia as well as numbers of
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trump's inner circle. we've obtained emails through court documents that show he was in direct contact getting referred to state officials by the head of the republican party in georgia david shafer. we also show that david shafer was introduced to scott hall by his brother-in-law named david bosie to lead the challenges in places like georgia so we're really learning details about the scope of the investigation in georgia and it's honing in on trump and his allies' efforts to overturn the results there both through the fake electors and also by getting access to voting systems there. >> zack cohen, appreciate it. thank you. top of the hour on cnn newsroom. good to have you. i'm victor blackwell. >> i'm erica hill. former president trump issuing a 14-page i guess you can call it a non-response to the committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. of course, this letter that came