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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ good morning, everyone, and welcome to your "new day." middle are it is saturday, october 15th. 16 days away from halloween. i'm amara walker. >> good morning, amara. i'm boris sanchez. we are so grateful you startsing your weekend with us. up next, the countdown to not just halloween, but the elections. the 2022 mid-term elections are on the way and candidates across the country are working hard to lock down support. the balance of power in congress is up for grabs and there are a handful of states which could determine which party takes control. >> that includes arizona where the race for u.s. senate is leaning to the democrats and mark kelly over republican blake masters. in nevada the contest for u.s.

senate is a toss-up and at pennsylvania, the race between mehmet oz and john fetterman also up for grabs. another key senate race is right here in georgia where the candidates met in a heated debate last night. senator warnock faced off against herschel walker after a week of bombshell allegations leveled at the former football star. details now from politics reporter eva mckent. >> democratic senator rafael w warnock and herschel walker are in a contentious georgia senate race with control at stake. >> it is time to get under way. >> the georgia candidates debated running night. walker, running on a family values platform currently involved in a scandal over pressuring the mother of one of his children to get an abortion. >> a week before this debate a former girlfriend made public accusations saying you paid for an abortion and encouraged her to have another.

in an abc news interview this week you said the accusations are, quote, all lies. for the voters watching tonight can you explain it to the voters watching. you have 60 seconds. >> one thing about my life is i've been very trance parents. unlike the senator, he's hid things and at the same time that's a lie. on abortion. i'm a christian, i believe in life and georgia is a state that respects life and i would be a senator that protects life, and i said that was a lie, and i'm not backing down. >> the patient's room is too narrow, and cramped a space for a woman, her doctor and the united states government. we are witnessing now what happens when politicians, most of them men pile into patients' rooms. you get what you're seeing right now, and the women of georgia -- the women of georgia deserves a senator who will stand with

them. i trust women more than i trust politicians. >> i heard about him. he's a neat talker, but did he not mention that there's a baby in that room, as well? and also did he not mention that he -- he's asking the taxpayer to pay for it. so he's bringing the government back into the room. >> cnn has not independently verified allegations about walker. >> herschel, please, say a few words. >> walker was given the opportunity to distance himself from the former president on election denial. >> did president biden defeat former president donald trump in 2020? >> president biden won and senator warnock won, that's the reason why i decided to run because we need a change in washington. we need leaders that will stand up to foreign leaders. we need people that's going to stand up for people in georgia. >> on friday, both candidates said they would accept the results of this election. walker was also asked about

crime and took the opportunity to make a string of claims of warnock, accusing warnock of not supporting the police who gave this rebuttal. >> we will see time and time again as we have seen that my opponent has a problem with the truth and just because he said something doesn't mean it's true. i have supported our police officers. i've called them and i've prayed with their families. you can support police officers as i've done through the cops program, through the invest to protect program while at the same time holding police officers and all professions accountable. one thing i have not done, i've never pretended to be a police officer and -- and i've never -- i've never threatened a shootout with the police. >> and now i have to respond to that. >> we are moving on. >> no, i have to respond to that, and you know what's so funny? i am -- i am with many police

officers and at the same time have -- >> mr. walker. mr. walker. mr. walker, excuse me, mr. walker. >> when he said the truth is here. >> i have to let you know, mr. walker, you are very well aware of the ruse tonight and you have a prop and that is not allowed sir. >> eva mccann, cnn, georgia. >> thanks to eva mccann. we have more videos showing the dangers made by lawmakers on the capitol after they left the capitol building during the january 6th riots. the video is currency of filmmaker alexandra pelosi who is documenting her mom house speaker nancy pelosi on that day. it shows speaker pelosi huddled with other congressional leaders sheltering at fort mcnair a washington-area based military base. >> he was sheltering on a

loading dock on at capitol. they discuss their personal safety with pelosi begging him to keep his location secret. >> hi, mr. vice president? hi. yeah. we're here with mr. shumer is, mr. mcconnell, the leadership house and senate. how are you? oh, my goodness. where are you? god bless you. i worry about you being in that capitol. don't let anybody know where you are. >> don't let anybody know where you are. and in another clip, we also hear a discussion between the former vice president and president and speaker pelosi, i should say, as they work on a contingency plan to clear the capitol and finish certifying the 2020 election. >> fort mcnair who has

facilities to meet for a backup plan. should anything happen, we don't want that, we logistically want to bring all of the members of the house and senate anyway, but we're just making a judgement. we'd rather go to the capitol and do it there, but it doesn't seem to be safe. what do you think? >> but he spoke in terms of going back to the capitol, which is what we want to do, too, but mitch was talking about going back to the capitol? yeah. well, we would like to go back to the -- that would be our hope, as well. the security is telling us that it's going to be a while before the capitol will be able to do that. >> you might recall portions of these videos were used in a final public hearing of the

january 6th committee. the house select committee used the video and new testimony to demonstrate how former president donald trump knew he had lost the election, but still went forward with efforts to overturn the results. the committee also voted to subpoena the former president. in response, trump issued a 14-page letter repeating false election claims and slamming the committee. on january 6th, officer michael fanone nearly lost his life defending the capitol. [ screaming ] >> he was surrounded by an angry mob as you heard there violently beaten with a blue lives matter flag pole and then tased repeatedly in the neck. fan fanone, pleading with rioters that he had children. he suffered a heart attack and traumatic brain injury. a couple of weeks ago the man wielding that flag pole kyle

young was sentenced to more than serve years in prison. former metropolitan officer and cnn law enforcement analyst michael fanone has a new book "hold the line." good morning, michael and thanks for your time. before we deferral into your book, i just want to get from you what you thought were the takeaways from this final january 6th public hearing before the election. you know it ended with a vote to subpoena donald trump and trump responded by repeating election lies. he's still trying to rile up his supporters and i wonder if you're concerned about january 6th happening again? >> absolutely. i mean, the one overall takeaway that i had from all of these meetings or all of the hearings was that on january 6th donald trump declared war on america, and he didn't do it figuratively. he did it literally. he raised an army of his supporters and directed them to the capitol knowing full well

that violence would ensue, and he did it to disrupt the counting of the electoral votes and the peaceful transition of power and what we're dealing with now is the residual effect of that. he's going to continue to be a threat to america and american democracy until he and the others responsible for january 6th are held accountable. >> you know, sadly -- go ahead. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say sadly there are so many conspiracy theories and some people are saying that some of the video out there is not real. i'm curious why you wrote this book. what do you want people to know? >> i mean, the reason that i wrote the book was twofold. first, i wanted people to understand what my experience and the experience of so many other police officers was on january 6th, but i also wanted

people to get a view into what it was like to come forward, speak the truth in the time of trump and trumpism and what that was like and understand what the cost is to americans who speak out and put themselves in an adversarial position against trump. it cost me everything. the other reason for writing the book was i wanted people to understand the experience of a street cop in america over the past 20 years, and i was hoping that, you know, me being transparent about my career could furthermore productive conversations about policing and police reform in america. >> you know, parts of your book focused on these recorded conversations you made including with republican lawmakers downplaying the insurrection or rewriting history and includes

this one with house minority leader kevin mccarthy. let's listen first. >> we were watching tv. >> he knew what was going on. he knew what was going on. he knew they were fighting for hours and hours and hours. you know -- [ inaudible ] >> from my phone call, i don't know that he didn't know that. >> by the way, that was the voice of the late brian sicknick's mother there. michael, you were clearly angry and incredulous in that meeting and used a lot of colorful language, as well. what do you want us to take away from these recordings? >> the overall takeaway is this. the experience that i had with meeting with members of congress. unfortunately, while it was primarily republican members and it was members on both sides of the aisle was indifference.

indifference to me. indifference towards the mother of an officer who died as a result of fulfilling his oath and his duty on january 6th and indifference to law enforcement officers in general, and i think ultimately, that's the big takeaway from my book is that there's a lot of potential dangers in trump and his followers, but ultimately, i think what's going to be our downfall as america is our indifference. our indifference to the pain that was caused by donald trump to so many different americans, and our indifference to our neighbors' experience. >> you mentioned the price, the high price you've had to pay by simply telling your story. michael, you served as a police officer for 20 years, and i know you say one of the most difficult things for you to deal with after that coup attempt on our capitol was your own

colleagues ostracizing you, and i want to read a quote from your book. it says, quote, if i approached a group of other officers talking, they would walk away. every visit to hit the bathroom risked a confrontation. it was not lost on me that most of the venom came from white cops. black cops for the most part, were supportive. from them i got handshakes and hugs, but most white cops averted eye contact. a few literally turned their backs. talk to us more about that experience? i mean, you must fell so betrayed. >> yeah. i mean, that was an observation that i made. again, it was an attempt to be transparent about my experience. i would have people draw their own conclusions. that being said, i don't think that it's a secret that there's obviously a majority of trump supporters are white, and certainly within the law enforcement community as well as the military, the vast majority of those that still to this day,

19 months after january 6th continue to support donald trump are white, and i think those individuals should probably do some soul-searching as to why they continue to cling to an individual who so clearly despises democracy, disrespects americans' right to vote and choose their elected leaders. >> you're right when you say indifference is dangerous and we hope that there will be less indifference the more voices like yours are heard and more evidence comes out in the day asksdays and weeks ahead. the book is called "hold the line." it is available now. michael fan none, i appreciate u joining us. >> thanks for having me. mortgage rates hit for 20

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leaving a still-confusing picture about whether the u.s. economy can avoid a recession, what do we know? well, retail sales were flat from august to september as inflation took a toll on the american consumer. sales on everything from food to autoparts saw little or no change in september. the retail sales numbers are not adjusted for inflation so americans spent the same dollars for fewer goods. inflation is still a daily burden on american households. consumer households rose from august to september and 8.2% when compared to last year and core cpi excluding volatile food and energy prices, that was the highest since 1982, a fresh 40-year inflation high for that core rate. the fed's crusade to crush that inflation has driven mortgage rates to the highest since george w. bush was in office. the average 30-year fixed rate morgan is 6.82%. for context, a mortgage taken out today would cost an extra

thousand there ares in interest compared to that same mortgage taken out a year ago at 3%. boris? amara? >> christine romans, they so much for that. the chief economist at the national association of realtors is forecasting that home prices are going to flat line in about half the country next year. lawrence yun is predicting 0% growth on average in 2023. it's been a seller's market for a long time, as we've emerged from the pandemic and demand has massively outstripped supply. this is good news if you're a buyer, but only if you can afford a mortgage which could be getting more expensive. the organization saying mortgage rates could hit 8.5% if they climb above the 7% threshold they're hovering around right now. lawrence is with us. thank you for spending part of your weekend with us. let's start with those mortgage rates. the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage

just averaged 6.92, the highest since april of 2002. a year ago you could get a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage for just 3.05%. what do you think the chances are that they will go above 8%? where do you see them peaking? >> i think that we are testing the 7% mark. it is most likely to hold at this level and possibly even retreat somewhat after holding, but if it breaks the 7% line, the mortgage rate looks to go up even above 8%. we have to remember, when inflation is this high, last time back in the early 1980s, mortgage rate climbed up to 18%. of course, we don't see that, but i think the 7% is likely to be the new normal. >> yeah. you don't think the 1980s rate hikes of 16% to 18%, you don't think that's going to come back? >> oh, definitely not. that was just due to the just

runaway inflation. we have high, uncomfortable inflation and the federal reserve is intent on fighting it, and i think the inflation level a couple of years from now will be back to normal about 3% a year. that means that mortgage rate probably at that time could be somewhat lower. people who are entering the market today. america the great, one of the great part is people can always refinance at lower rates in the future, unlike many residents in other countries. so for americans, the opportunity to refinance when the mortgage rate falls, that's a great thing. >> right. so what has to happen for rateserates to go down? how long do you think buyers will be waiting? >> first, mortgage rate is critical for the housing market. mortgage rates need to stabilize and inflation needs to come down a bit and for the housing supply to really increase, we still have housing shortage. one would think that with the changing market circumstances,

there will be a burst of supply. we are not seeing that. we are not seeing any foreclosure and property coming home to the market or any distressed companies and we are in a strange dynamic of fewer buyers and fewer sellers and we need to really increase supply to moderate the price growth. >> yeah. you essentially think that home prices are going to flat line over the next year in some parts of the country. walk us through where you see prices going. >> nationwide, essentially a 0% increase in prices, flat line meaning that half of the country will see some modest growth in home prices. i would say the midwest would probably see continued growth especially if it's a job-creating condition, simply because they're so affordable, like indianapolis, boosts housing demand and the southern states, georgia, florida where people are continuing to migrate

into. so this is additional residents boosting demand, but the vulnerable part and the prices decline would be the expensive, high-cost region, particularly california that may see 10% price decline in california. >> that is interesting to hear. lawrence yun, thank you very much for sharing your expertise with us. >> thank you. >> my stomach hurts just thinking about 8% average interest rates for mortgages. crazy. all right. up next, more fallout in the wake of the parkland school shooting verdict. prosecutors are looking into allegations that a jury was threatened as another speaks out on just how tense those deliberations were. biofreeze. the number one clinician recommended mementhol topical pain relief brand. works fast. lasts long. cool the pain with biofreeze. this is the planning effect. nina's got a lot of ideas for the future...

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special master who is overseeing documents seized from the former president's florida estate. the independent overseer was tasked with inspecting thousands of documents found at mar-a-lago by fbi agents, many of them classified, back in august. >> yeah. the doj argues the lower-court judge who appointed the special master doesn't have the authority to interfere with their investigation. they call it a serious and unwarranted intrusion. prosecutors say a teenager accused of killing five people in a mass shooting will be tried as an adult. the attack which spanned two miles across raleigh, north carolina, a neighborhood there also left two people wounded. a source tells cnn the suspect was dressed in camouflage and a handgun and long gun were recovered from the scene. our affiliate wtvd has been speaking to people in the neighborhood. >> it's heartbreaking. i have teenagers myself, and you just -- it's a tragedy at any

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boris and amara, we had an insightful conversation with one of the 12 jurors who recommended life without parole for the parkland shooter. she told us she doesn't regret the decision to make that recommendation, but does have anxiety over it especially when she thinks about the family's pain. ultimately, she felt that the system failed the parkland shooter throughout his life and she pointed to the law to explain her decision making. remember, in florida, a jury must be unanimous for the death p penalty, here's how she described it. >> i was still undecided until the very, very end, and even though we can only -- there was only one person who could vote for life that would give him life, i just didn't want to hide behind that person if that was my vote. it took a while, but at the last minute, i think when we went around the room and voted right before filling out the paperwork is when i went for life.

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because they don't trust russia using diplomacy as a time to regroup and pursue the military groups later and something russia would like to do at this point given how bad the campaign is going and no more in the south today where ukraine is taking back fraction by fraction, and yet more territory. thank you very much, nick. tensions between america and saudi arabia escalating with the white house accusing the saudis of, quote, coercing its allies to cut oil production and side with russia. cnn's natasha bertrand reports now on the pressure mounting in congress for the biden administration to act and the options the president is now considering. >> tensions between the u.s. and saudi arabia escalating sharply this week with u.s. officials accusing the saudis of strong arming opec into cutting oil production and helping russia maintain its war machine in ukraine. >> the saudis have conveyed to

us both privately as well as publicly their intention to reduce oil production which they knew would increase russian revenues and potentially blunt the effectiveness of sanctions. weigh made clear that that would be the wrong direction. >> the opec plus decision to cut oil production by as much as 2 million barrels per day has rattled the white house which now says it's re-evaluating its relationship with the saudis, one of the most important middle east allies just months after the president traveled to sdwsdjeddah to mend an already-faltering relationship. >> i am, when the house and senate get back, there will be consequences for what they've done with russia. >> multiple sources also telling cnn that other opec-plus members including the united arab emirates including iraq oppose the saudi-led decision.

they have indicated to the u.s. they may not move forward with the huge cuts that saudi arabia wants, one of the sources says. the saudis have pushed back against the administration, releasing a rare statement accusing the u.s. of trying to distort the facts and insisting the decision was based purely on economic considerations. >> saudi arabia is not siding with russia and it is trying to ensure the stability of the oil market. >> as the biden administration considers how to punish saudi arabia, an official tells cnn they've been purposely vague to keep the saudis guessing, but one option is to ban future sales to the country once congress is back in session. >> i think it is unlikely that we will support any additional arm sales to the saudis. this was a punch in the gut. >> there are currently no eminent sales in the pipeline, though, and experts are skeptical that the relationship will fundamentally change. >> because of saudi arabia's activities in the war on yemen and the civilian casualties they caused followed by the murder of

jamal khashoggi, congress has become more and more critical and controlling of u.s. foreign military sales to saudi arabia. there is very little coercion left that the u.s. can do in trying to control military sales to saudi arabia. >> now a u.s. official told cnn that the opec announcement was, quote, a lot of theater and is ultimately unlikely to take the full 2 million barrels of oil per day by the market and europe is looking at the next meeting in november to see whether the cartel stays on this path. boris? amara? >> thank you very much, natasha. two climate protesters have been charged in london after they threw cans of tomato soup on one of vincent van gogh's masterpieces and before you see this video, if you are a van gogh enthusiast, you might want to turn away. >> the activists splashed the dutch masters painting sun flowers at the national art gallery and then as you hear people gasping in the background, glued themselves to the wall.

the women are from just stop oil, a group that wants the british government to halt new oil and gas projects. the 19th century painting is covered by a glaze and was unharmed by the protesters and valued at tens of millions of dollars. these protesters are arguing there should be more value placed on the environment over art. still ahead in the san diego school district, more than a third of the 2600 students were absent this week and the culprit was a flu outbreak. why health officials are warning that the u.s. could soon be in for a very substantial flu season. luxury exemplified. innovation electrified. withth apple music seamlessly integrated. the all-new, all-electric eqs suv from mercedes-benz.

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more on where we are seeing those increases. >> amara and boris, public health officials are already seeing some flu hospitalizations, possible cases within schools and they are bracing for what could be a rough flu season ahead. now when you look at the numbers, it seems as if we're returning to flu levels that we saw before the covid-19 pandemic. when you look at the percentage of specimens from people going to the doctor's office with respiratory symptoms. that percentage that tested positive for flu was 3.1% in 2019 before covid, then in 2020 that percentage dropped to 0.2%. in 2021 it dropped to 0.1% and now it's up again around 3.3% and amara and boris, that's likely because we're no longer following covid measures like masking and social distancing. those practices also help prevent flu spread, as well and number two, this could be because the past couple of flu

seasons were very mild. so we also might not have robust immunity right now, and over in san diego where high schools have many students out sick, county public health officers say they anticipate this will be a rough flu season. quote, we are coordinating with local school districts and are checking with other school campuses to try and figure out why so many students have been affected so suddenly. unfortunately, we anticipated this would be a rough influenza season and alongside covid-19, other respiratory viruses are also making a rapid comeback. end quote. of course, remember to protect yourself against flu. get your flu shot, stay home when you're sick and wash your hands often. just overall, practice that good hygiene. amar amara and boris? >> thank you very much for that. amara and i will take an hour off and smerconish will step in

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