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four people are confirmed dead, among them a pregnant woman. >> ukraine says it managed to shoot down 36 of the 42 iranian-made drones used in that blitz, including this one, which was captured on a police officer's body cam. the u.s. says russia's use of drones will factor in future decisions on how to best support ukraine defend itself. fred pleitgen is in ukraine. you are in one of the regions that was targeted by these strikes. what are you seeing? >> reporter: you're right, victor. we saw a power plant that was hit by the russians. this is something that happened earlier today and essentially the ukrainian authorities was saying that there was severe damage. it was hit by one of those kamikaze drones. they had to have rescue crews on
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hand. there was a large fire. they're urging the citizens in a town where i am right now, they're urging them to use less electricity to ration electricity simply because they have to get things back up and running. you can see behind me, it's dark right now in the city. that is because people are heating that and they are trying -- are trying to do that. of course, victor, the really big strikes today were in the ukrainian capital, in kyiv, where you had those massive kamikaze drone strikes going on. there were scenes where you had police officers trying to shoot the drones down, trying to get them out of the sky. it's interesting because the ukrainians are saying of 42 drones that were launched by the russians today at ukrainian territory, they actually managed to take 36 of those drones down. as we saw from the videos that we've been seeing from kyiv, the drones that do crash into buildings, they cause severe damage like that residential building in kyiv where four people were killed. >> there's also, fred, we
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learned about a group of russian soldiers arriving in belarus to form a joint force. give us a sense of what that force could ultimately mean. >> reporter: the ukrainians believe it could mean there's an invasion from the north, once again, in the works by the russians, erika. right now, the latest information that we have, that we're getting from the russians and the belarusians, they say 9,000 russian soldiers are on belarusian soil. the belarusian strongman lukashenko is trying to spin this as if he's defending belarus from the ukrainians. he says he believes the ukrainians might be plotting an attack. the ukrainians say that's nonsense. i've spoken to southeastern ukrainian official and is they tell me they believe at this point in time, an invasion is
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not eminent. however, it is, obviously, something that does concern them a great deal because they have a long border with belarus and the last thing they want is to have another front open against them. one of the officials that i spoke to said it would be highly detrimental for lukashenko if he did make that move. he believes it could be lukashenko's last move as the belarusian president because he thinks there might be an uprising in belarus as a cause of this. >> fred, appreciate it. thank you. retired u.s. army brigadier steve anderson joins us now. let's talk a little bit more about the capability of these kamikaze drones. what can they do? why are they seen as the choice to make right now? >> well, thank you very much for having me. i think it's telling to see just how desperate vladimir putin is, he has to go to the iranians to get drones like this.
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they're intended to be fired in groups and swarms. their launching platform has five rockets on them. they're rocket-assisted. they fly to their target. they have 1500 miles of range. they can launch these things from moscow all the way into anywhere in ukraine. they carry an 88-pound warhead which is enough to maybe not take out a bridge, but cause significant damage. i mean, you don't want one flying in your apartment window in the morning, that's for sure. but they're effective. we saw that the ukrainians were able to knock out 85%, but, again, they're being deployed in swarms so a few are going to get through. those that get through are intended to terrorize the ukrainian people, they're trying to take out infrastructure, they're trying to knock out energy assets prior to the winter to make life more miserable for the ukrainians. spoiler alert to mr. putin, it's not going to work. >> so, general, when u.s.
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officials say that the administration will consider the u.s. of these drones when deciding future support for the ukrainians, what do they need to counter these kamikaze drones? >> they need more air defense artillery systems. they have the s-300 and they've got these systems, joint norwegian/u.s. air defense systems, two of which are inbound in the next two months, another six, or a total of eight are going to come in over the next months. it's a medium-range system. the problem with uavs, they're low range. what they need is some low-range capability, and i submit to you that we need to look -- the united states -- at providing the c-ram system, counter rocket artillery and mortar. these are incredibly effective
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systems. they're made by raytheon. they go after rockets, artillery and mortar rounds. if you've got something that's good enough to shoot out a mortar round, easy pickings. i had 25 of these systems in afghanistan, 2016 to 2018. they're incredibly effective. these are the systems that the united states needs to get on the ground in ukraine now. >> once they get there, how quickly could they be put into use. we talked a lot about certain systems, learning how to use those systems, being up to speed in time. what is that amount of time that they would need? >> they are mobile systems. they can literally be put up in a matter of hours. we're not talking days or weeks. they can be established. now the problem there, of course, is they would be operated by probably american contractors. right now, there's a prohibition against this.
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this is a bridge that we need to cross. we need to get american contractors on the ground to operate systems like this. also to help repair all the systems that we've given them in the past that are breaking. they're operating with devastating effect against the russians, but they're not able to maintain them. if we really want to help the ukrainians push the russians all the way out of their held territory to include crimea, we're going to have to surge logistic capabilities and get u.s. contractors on the ground. not only providing air defense exe expertise and operations but also to provide logistic support. >> you suggested there should be u.s. contractors in ukraine. putin is likely not going to see the nuance between a u.s. contractor teaching the ukrainians how to use this hardware versus actually being in the fight against russians. you think it's worth it? >> absolutely, victor. absolutely. well, he probably will perceive
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it as an escalation, but it's one that we need to -- we need to go across this bridge right now. we need these systems. we need to show our support to ukraine. we need to show the russians that we are behind the ukrainians all the way, and that includes putting american contractors on the ground. we're going to send a message to our allies, to the ukrainians, to the world, to the russians, that we're serious about making sure the ukrainians win this. it's a threat to us all and we must do everything possible to include putting u.s. contractors on the ground in ukraine now. >> thank you. police in stockton, california, say they've arrested a suspect in a series of deadly shootings that left the city on edge. we wesley brownlee was taken into custody early saturday morning. the police chief says he's confident officers stopped another killing with this arrest and brownlee was out hunting. >> he's suspected of killing six
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men, wounding a woman in a string of shootings. the earliest stretches back to april of 2021. camila bernal is live now in stockton. what led police to this suspect? >> reporter: victor and erika, two things. the first just being the community's help. so many people that called in and reported just whatever they saw. and then the next was just good old-fashioned police work. and there was a promise from the mayor to get this guy. here is what kevin lincoln, the mayor here in stockton, had to say. >> we made it very clear to the public that the senseless acts of violence will not be tolerated and that even though there wasn't any words we could say that would bring back the lost loved ones, the least that we could do is do our part to help bring justice. >> now, here is what police said, they said once they reviewed all of these tips, they
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zeroed in on the person they believed was responsible. so once they did this, they began to follow this guy, just watch his every move, study him, and they say they were looking for a pattern. in fact, they found that pattern. and it was going out early in the morning or late at night, going to parks, going to dark places, and that's exactly what happened on saturday at 2:00 in the morning and that's why the chief of police is saying that, look, this is someone who was out on a mission to kill. he was out hunting. those were the words that he used. he says when they arrested this man, he was wearing all black, he had a mask around his neck, and he did have a gun and so that's why they're saying they prevented another possible attack. police also saying he does have a criminal record. he's 43 years old, lives here in stockton and we're expecting more information tomorrow when he first appears in court. that's when the da will announce all of the charges and explain what happens moving forward.
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but, of course, there is still the question on motive and the police chief is not saying that at the moment. but a lot of people here who were terrified for weeks wanting to know exactly why this happened. erika, victor? >> motive is one of many questions there in stockton. camila bernal, thank you. joining us now is the city manager of stockton, harry black. good to have you with us this afternoon. i want to pick up on what my colleague was just saying there, talking about how people in the area were terrified, understandably, for weeks. can you just give us a sense of not only what it was like during that time, but how residents are doing this morning knowing there is someone who was arrested who police say they believe is the person responsible? >> well, thank you, thank you for having me. i think with crime in general, it generates a certain degree of fear and anxiety, but when you're dealing with a serial killer, which we -- we have in this country from time to time,
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but it's not the norm. it creates a heightened sense of anxiety and fear. so as a city government, we did what we could in terms of communicating, to try to allay some of the anxiety. once again, until you have the person in custody, you're going to continue to have some element of anxiety and fear. just want to commend our police department, the joint task force that we stood up in bringing this person to justice very quickly and so now the community can sort of rest and be at peace and not have to deal with that level of anxiety as we have had to do over the past two to three weeks. >> in terms of how this all came together, we've heard so much about how the tips were key here, is there any indication, have you heard at all, from law enforcement, that some of those tips may have come in from someone who knows this person
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personally? >> first, i mean, policing in the united states today is very data-driven. and our police department has been -- continues to be very data-driven. we know what crime looks like in our city. we know what the patterns are. back in july, something seemed off. something seemed abnormal. and our police department launched an investigation and here we are today. again, we owe a great deal of gratitude to our joint task force partners. we also owe a great deal of attitude to the public and the community of stockton in terms of the overwhelming response to providing information and tips. there were tips provided in this case that were very, very helpful in apprehending this person. >> when this video first came out, i thought to myself, that feels like it's going to be really tough to get people to say, oh, i know who that person is because all you're seeing is
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this figure from the back. were you surprised with that video how much information actually came in? >> i think people in general in stockton want to be helpful, but having $125,000 reward is also helpful. >> that it would be. are you confident -- i know the police chief said at that press conference, of course, you're there on -- over the weekend, that he was confident. are you confident that this is likely the person behind the killings? and do you feel safer this morning? >> i feel very, very safe. we have a very competent police department here and i would echo the chief. i think we got our person. >> city manager harry black, thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. president biden will try to keep abortion rights in focus at an event tomorrow. will that help democrats in the final stretch of the 2022
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issues right now. >> cnn's average of the last five national polls shows a virtual tie with support for democratic and republican candidates at 46%. let's discuss with cnn chief political analyst gloria borger and ron brownstein who is the senior editor at "the atlantic." gloria, i'm going to start with you and these polls on the -- the "new york times" poll on the most important problem facing the country today. 44%, the economy or inflation, nothing else breaks into double digits. what's this mean for democrats? >> it's not great news. i think this election was always going to be about who was defining the election. what the democrats were trying to do, particularly after the dobbs decision, was take a turn, particularly with women, and say, look, you know, look at what the supreme court did on abortion. this is really important. look at what we've done for you in terms of prescription drug
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benefits, look at how extreme the republican party is. and instead it's the old saw, it's the economy, stupid, credit to james carville. but it is. what we've seen is a stalled momentum for the democrats. there was a sense that they were making some headway on these other issues and they still might. there's a ways to go. but for now, it seems they're losing independent voters, they're losing a whole bunch of women independent voters, and that's really important for them. >> and i would love to drill down on the point about the independent women voters, because, look at this, in this poll. that was the biggest shift that we saw was independent women. back in september, the number of independent women who said they favored democrats, they favored democrats by 14 points. just a few weeks later, now the republicans have the edge by a margin of 18 points. that's a massive, massive swing.
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>> and more than you probably are really seeing in the real world, erika, frankly. a change of that magnitude, you would have to see confirmation for more than one poll to believe it. but the basic construct that gloria laid out is the fundamental tug-of-war in this election. democrats are dealing with a level of economic dissatisfaction and disapproval of the president that in the past has meant significant losses for the president's party in a midterm election. and they have been levitating above that downward pressure by focusing more voters on not only what democrats have done, but what republicans would do with power and mobilizing their coalition around the view that republicans are a threat to their rights, their values and even to democracy. when you have this level of economic discontent, it's hard to keep the focus on those other issues all the way through election day. and that really, i think, is
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kind of the core lever of -- or seesaw that will determine, you know, how this ultimately plays out. if the focus shifts entirely back to performance on the economy, it could be a long night for democrats. but there is evidence that in a lot of these key statewide races, especially, they are able to keep a substantial number of voters focused on the republican alternative and that could allow them to avoid the worst. >> gloria, senator michael bennet was on with dana bash and he was talking about the economy, trying to explain it's not just the u.s. here's what he was trying to say. >> this is a global problem. canada has the same inflation that we have. the european -- every country in europe has the same inflation we have, the uk does as well. india has as well because we're facing broken global supply chains that we have to address and we're facing increases in energy prices, two years ago,
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oil was at $20 a barrel, went to 93 because of the economic recovery and then putin invaded ukraine. >> all in important context, but does that sell? >> no, it doesn't sell. one other thing the administration says is that we're in a better position than other countries. all of this may be true. but the problem is, when you're a voter out there and you see that gas prices -- which were going down -- are now going up, and you may have a little bit of a raise in your paycheck, but prices of food, et cetera, are going up. this is not foremost on your mind. you can be mad at opec for turning off the spigot and lots of things, you can be angry at other countries. but you're focused on what's right in front of you. that argument may make sense, but it doesn't make voters go to the polls and say, yeah, i'm going to give the democrats another chance. >> is it surprising to you that democrats haven't figured that
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out yet? and i understand why you don't want to be the party in power and say, we get it, things are not great right now, but they're politicians, there's a way to spin things. it's fascinating that they keep drilling down on these messages that are clearly not landing well. >> look, it's -- as your question noted, it's hard. if you're the party in power with 9% inflation, we haven't seen this in 40 years. the last time it happened, ronald reagan's republicans lost 26 seats in the 1982 house election. i think the impact of inflation will tend to reinforce one of the most important dynamic that is we've seen over the last several election cycles which is the widening education divide between the parties. there's no question for a lot of noncollege, blue-collar voters, inflation is a pressing concern. it's a shoe that is too tight and i think a lot of those voters are going to be focused on the issue and are going to kind of move into the party in
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power. white-collar, college educated suburb voters, inflation is real but it's an inconvenience than a threat. what we see in polls, those are the voters who are most focused on other questions like rights and preserving democracy and the threat that trump and his movement may present to the threat of democracy. i would not be shocked at the wider than usual education gap will let some places hold spots and do well in states like arizona and potentially georgia where there is a significant pool of those college educated voters. in places that are more blue-collar in nature, whether it's the district or a state like nevada, it could be a big challenge. two key groups to watch, noncollege white women and noncollege latino men, both of whom are swing groups but who
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may be affected by their views of the economy at this moment. >> former president obama is talking about candidates' focuses. >> we join that game and we spend enormous amounts of time and energy and resources pointing out the latest crazy thing he said or, you know, the -- how rude or mean, you know, some of these republican candidates behaved. that's probably not something that -- in the minds of most voters overrides their basic interests. >> the focus on former president trump, democrats -- not democrats alone, but they're trying to make this clear and present danger argument alongside the economic argument, can they make that without focusing on some of the things that trump and his ilk, they're
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seeing leading up to the midterms. >> i think it's difficult. you hear joe biden talking about it all the time. they want to make donald trump an issue in this campaign. and they may succeed to a certain degree because of the supreme court decision on dobbs. i don't think people pay attention every day to everything donald trump is saying. and i think what obama is saying makes sense which is that you have to hit people right where they live, right at the kitchen table. if you keep only talking about donald trump and how extremist he is, you also have to understand that these polls show that republican voters and lots of independent voters believe that democrats are extremist at this point. so it isn't going to really get you very much. so i think he's absolutely correct, bernie sanders was singing that same tune, saying talk about what democrats have done for people. talk about what we've done on infrastructure, prescription
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drugs, health care. he wants democrats to talk about that and he thinks that's not happening enough. >> thank you. >> thanks. paging all online shoppers, before you hit buy on that next purchase, you're going to want to stay with us for this one, especially if you like a free return, like this girl does. those may not last. victor and i may be in mourning. stick around. they say you eat with your eyes first, so here's a good look at our new thick n fluffy french toast. artisan challah dipped in vanilla cinnamon batter. french toast the way it's meant to be. try all three flavors. only at ihop. downlo the app and earn free food with every purchase. it's the subway series menu! 12 irresistible subs... like #11 subway club. piled with turkey, ham and roast beef. this sub isn't slowing down any time soon.
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starting today for the first time some adults who suffer from hearing loss will be able to buy hearing aids over the counter. >> the fda changed the rule requiring a medical exam and prescription for those devices. industry experts are calling this a game changer. jacqueline howard is here. this could have major quality of life impacts for millions of people. who is benefitting here, jacqueline? >> absolutely, victor. benefitting here includes adults who have mild to moderate hearing loss. that's the group that will be eligible to receive these over the counter hearing aids at scores and online. when you look at the statistics, about 28.8 million adults in the country could benefit from wearing a hearing aid, but not all of them have access or have had the means to afford them. when you look at older adults, 70 and older, fewer than 30% who
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could benefit from wearing hearing aids have ever used them. so the goal with these over the counter devices is to make them more accessible, more affordable. they'll go from costing thousands of dollars with a prescription to costing more in the hundreds of dollars. and the stores that say they'll have some of these over the counter devices include walgreens, cvs, walmart, best buy, hy-vee. this starts today. this is really life-changing for many people. hearing loss has been associated with poor physical health and even poor mental health. some people tend to isolate themselves if they experience hearing loss. having access to a hearing aid can be beneficial for both physical and mental health. >> absolutely. makes such, such a difference, especially when you factor in how cost prohibitive it's been
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for some people for so long. appreciate it. thank you. i usually order the large and extra large because i don't know which is going to work for me -- >> i like to do two sizes too. i can't do that anymore because the days of free online returns may be coming to an end for some retailers. >> and we're not happy about it, quite frankly. matt egan joining us now. on the one hand, i can understand that there are costs involved, but it's going to make a lot of people unhappy. how widespread is this pending return fee? >> yeah, so much for online impulse shopping, right? we have seen h&m, and a bunch of other retailers start to charge fees for these shipping back of returns and this is one of those weird consequences of inflation. because the cost for retailers to accept returns has gone up. most of this stuff has to go back on trucks. but the cost of fuel has gone
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up. carriers like u.p.s. and fedex, they're charging more for shipping rates and the cost of labor, those workers that go through and sort through the returns to make sure they're good quality, that has also gone up, and retailers are being hit by high inflation, their profits are getting squeezed. this is, of course, going to be a disappointment to people who like to, as victor said, buy multiple colors, sizes, you return what you don't like. but that does add up. retailers accepted $100 billion of online returns in 2020. that went up to $218 billion last year. it's whether or not the shipping return fees annoy customers enough that they end up taking their business elsewhere. >> so now we've got a -- i guess, to pay for the rueturns. unless there are ways to avoid these without standing in line, is there a way?
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>> well, i mean, the obvious thing is you can only buy what you need and what you're sure you want, but that's not realistic -- >> don't know which size is going to fit. >> right, exactly. when you're buying online, you don't know what's going to fit. you don't know what the colors are going to look like. the other thing you could do is make sure you make all of your returns in store. a lot of retailers do not charge instore return fees. of course, then, they want you to go buy more stuff in the store. hopefully you don't have to return that as well. >> maybe more stores will start stocking more. i find when i try to go into a physical store lately, they have few sizes and limited merchandise. >> they have it in two colors in store and eight online. matt egan, thank you. former president trump criticizes american jews for insufficient praise for his policies in israel. thatat's next.
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because we believe there's an innovator in all of us. kanye west is set to buy parler. its ceo said that west made a groundbreaking move into the free speech media space and will never fear being removed from social media again. he's married to candice owens. yesterday kanye was locked out of twitter and instagram. meanwhile, donald trump is under fire for criticizing american
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jews on his social media platform. he wrote no president has done more for israel than i have. somewhat surprisingly, however, our wonderful evangelicals are far more appreciative of this than people of the jewish faith, especially those living in the u.s. the u.s. jews have to get their act together and appreciate what they have in israel before it is too late. ceo of the jewish democratic council of america joins us now. thanks for your time. your recollection to what the former president posted there on his social media platform? >> thanks, victor. yes, what donald trump posted really demonstrates three things. first, donald trump doesn't know the first thing about american jews. we're loyal americans which is pry we prioritize the future of our democracy.
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this has nothing to do with israel. jewish voters don't support trump because he's aligned with white supremacists and extremists which has threatened our security, and, third, american jews overwhelmingly reject trump and the republican party that he leads because we're loyal to our values. the party under trump has pursued an agenda that is antithetical to our values whether to democracy or reproductive rights and this is why jews are overwhelming democrats and we're going to show that again at the midterms. >> i point out that you are ahead of a democratic group. i understand there's some politics here. how did you interpret the before its too late element of this? >> it's a threat. there's nothing else that can be interpreted there. it is a direct threat to our community. i don't know what exactly he's
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threatening. but it's not the first time sadly, and likely it won't be the last. there's been a silence among republicans in response to this threat. not one elected representative, senator, or candidate on the republican party side has said anything to separate themselves from this threat or from donald trump. they continue to cower to him and their silence is complicity. >> let me ask you about one candidate specifically, if this was about trump or about specific race, just minutes after this post he posted an endorsement of congressman lee zeldin who is one of only two -- he's the republican nominee for the governor of new york. do you think that that played some role in this post, calling out american jews?
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>> i don't. as i said, this is not the first time. if you recall in 2019 donald trump called the majority of american jews, jewish democrats disloyal. but we're loyal to our values and that's why overwhelmingly american jews are democrats because the democratic party represents our values. >> the defense that we hear from former president trump and some of his defenders is that, of course, he isn't an antisemite because has jewish grandchildren and a daughter. to that defense, you say what? >> the only thing true about that statement is that he does in fact have jewish members of his family. but time and again he has repeated anti-semitic stereotypes, he has refused to condemn white supremacy and he
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has emboldened and incited extremists including white supremacists to attack our democracy. so clearly whether he's an antisemite or not, antisemites believe he is their ally. we have heard them repeat the same negative stereotypes that he has used about jews. he's a danger to our community. and the republican party that he leads is a danger because he's used extremism to further his political agenda. that has nothing to do with his family and frankly it has nothing to do with israel. >> thank you. >> thank you. antigovernment protests growing in iran as the death toll is climbing after a fire broke out in an iranian prison, one known for holding political prisons. how the u.s. is responding next.
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in iran at least eight are dead. dozens more injured after a fire broke out in tehran's prison on saturday. the notorious site is known for housing anti-government activists. an iranian official said the incident though was not related to the protests that have been sweeping the country since the death of 22-year-old mahsa amini. >> aimini was detained by the morality police for not wearing her hijab correctly. what more do we know about that fire? >> reporter: well, the details around this fire in the prison over the weekend are still somewhat unclear. we are hearing different accounts from different sources, but pro-reform groups have been sharing accounts from sources and detainees within the prison, detailing what they describe from one detainee as a revolt which later ensued in a fire,
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but of course, the iranian regime has offered a different version of events saying there was a fire at a clothing warehouse on the prison complex, but it was started by what they described as thugs, and they were quick to assert that the situation was brought under control. we have been hearing accounts from detainees speaking to family members, loved ones, former detainees who are now outside of the prison complex describing these forces and authorities within the prison complexes, deploying tear gas against protesters. some saying they had to break the windows just to be able to breathe. others saying that some had been taken away to an unknown location. there is still clarity waiting to be confirmed around this incident, but look. the iranian authorities say this has no connection with the ongoing protests sweeping the country, but it is hard to ignore the context here. this prison complex holds in it hundreds of political prisoners, and as we continue to see those protests gaining momentum, morphing into anti-regime
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protests, there is of course, growing concern of the regime's crackdown on protests and any dissent could intensify. >> thank you. early voting is happening right now in the battleground state of georgia in the senate race there. republican herschel walker says, yes, he wrote that $700 check to his ex-girlfriend, but he continues to maintain that it was not to pay for an abortion. the latest on the race, next. two new ihop lunch and dinner menu items for twice the goodness, twice the flavor, and twice the choice. sirloin salisbury steak and all-naral salmon. perfect for lunch or dinner. only at ihop. download the app and earn free food with every purchase. [ coughing/sneezing ] [ door knocking ] dude, you coming?
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