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first, herschel walker, starting with what is true. in his college, he accomplished what most can only dream of, he's a three-time player of the year with a national championship and heisman trophy to his name. he played pro ball for some of the best teams in the league, competed in the 1992 winter olympics and the last administration, co-chaired the president's council on physical fitness and sports. all of that in short to say that he's plenty to be proud of. among those accomplishments, though, is not a degree from the university of georgia, because he never graduated. he's claimed he was a high school valedictorian. he wasn't. and he suggested he was an fbi agent. >> i spent time at quantico at the fbi training school. y'all know i was an agent? >> he wasn't. he did claim he was joking. this year, when his comments were reported, his campaign did not tell the newspaper that he was joking.

in any case, claiming nonexistent ties to law enforcement is a familiar refrain of his. in 2017, he said, i worked with the cobb county police department and i've been in criminal justice all my life. and now he's standing by this moment from his debate friday night with raphael warnock, the incumbent democrat. >> i have to respond to that. you know what is so funny? i have worked with many police officers, at the same time -- >> excuse me, mr. walker. i need to let you know, you are very well aware of the rules tonight. >> yes. >> and you have a prop. that is not allowed, sir. i ask you to put that prop away. >> this is not a prop, this is real. >> it is considered a prop. mr. walker, excuse me, sir. >> again, this familiar territory for walker, claiming

ties to law enforcement that do not exist. here's what he told nbc in an interview. >> where is this one from? >> this is from my hometown, johnson county, from the sheriff of johnson county. this badge is legit. if anything happened in this county, i have a right to work with the police getting things done. >> is that arresting authority? >> it is an honorary badge, but they can call me whenever they want me and i have authority to work with them on things. >> yeah, i got one too. and it's honorary. it has no power. he added, i work in law enforcement. keeping them honest, he does not. he has never had a job in law enforcement. his titles are honorary. his badge or badges are no different from the wings airlines used to give kids on their first flights. why don't they do that anymore? they don't make you a pilot, any

more than the mayor giving you the key to the city unlocks any doors. i got those too. they don't work. he was also asked about allegations he paid an ex-girlfriend to have an abortion. >> she showed a check, and he said the allegation he paid for an abortion isn't true. >> this is still a lie, because she's the mother of my child. it's a lie. >> do you know what this $700 check is for? >> i have no idea. >> is that your signature? >> it could be. it doesn't matter whether it's my signature or not. >> when pressed, walker said definitively the check is his. >> yes, that's my check. >> that's the first time he's admitted it. however, his suggestion that the money was to help support their child doesn't make sense. you heard him say, this is still a lie, meaning that it was to pay for an abortion because

she's the mother of my child. at that point, she did not yet have a child of his to support. that pregnancy, their second, which she did not terminate, would come later. so when asked why voters should believe him, he said, because i've been transparent about everything i've ever done. republican kari lake who is running for governor in arizona has been transparent about not accepting the outcome of the 2020 election. if dana bash asked her if she would have similar feelings about her own -- >> my question is will you accept the results of your election in november? >> i'm going to win the election and i will accept that result. >> if you lose, will you accept that? >> i'm going to win the election and i will accept that result. >> which, of course, is not the same as saying she'll accept reality however that turns out, or herschel walker will acknowledge the reality that

supporting law enforcement doesn't mean you have to pretend you're in law enforcement. but what matters to voters next month, and polling suggest that sentiment is now shifting to republicans. perspective now from dana bash, who you saw a moment ago. and former special assistant to the president obama, van jones. and maggie haberman, "new york times" senior political correspondent and author of "confidence man, the making of donald trump and the breaking of america." so dana, let me begin with you. kari lake, she clearly does not want to say that she would accept the results, whatever they are, of the election. >> she is reserving to do what donald trump did on a national level, especially in the state where she's running, in arizona, which is to not admit and not accept the reality.

now, i pressed her one more time after what you played, and she simply said, i'm not going to entertain that idea, because i'm going to win that. is a more traditional answer that candidates won't even accept the notion of losing, at least, you know, a few weeks before election day. but because she is a very clear election denier when it comes to 2020, calling it corrupt, calling it stolen, and all the words we heard from donald trump, it is logical to think that she would use that same strategy for her own election, which is why i pressed her on it. the other question, if she does become governor, will she use that same strategy in 2024 for the next presidential election, which would not only impact the people of arizona, but the people of the nation, because we saw how pivotal any state, including arizona, can be in a

presidential election. >> maggie, herschel walker, the politician, is essentially a creation of former president trump. in your new book, you write about a conversation you had with trump about walker as "complicated personal history." what did he say about it? >> it was interesting, anderson. he started talking, and this was a little over a year ago. he started talking about walker's history on the football field, and he was talking about what a great player he was. this was at a time when senate republicans were still very wary of walker, you know, before they accepted he was likely to be the nominee. i mentioned his personal history, and trump said, and i'm paraphrasing, that it was a personal his there i that ten years ago would have been a big problem. 20 years ago would have been a bigger problem. i don't think it's a problem today. when i asked him why, he said because the world is changing. he did not acknowledge part of why it's changing is because he's helped change the standards

for how some candidates are able to get by on what previously would have been very, very problematic discoveries in their candidacies. >> we lost van jones. dana, herschel walker has these ever-changing explanations that don't make sense. and yet it doesn't really -- i don't know, does it matter in georgia? it seems like there's an acceptance that people -- supporters are ignoring his problems with the truth as long as it gets them the senate majority. >> so there are two ways to answer that question. one is with herschel walker in particular. what maggie is reporting about what donald trump said is very true about herschel walker in that he's kind of a microversion of donald trump himself, in that he is and was well known, as you mentioned at the top of the show, a well-known football player, and also his foibles are well known. and so a lot of republican

strategists are saying that they believe the latest allegations, and all of the ramifications from that, are kind of baked in. having said that, there definitely is a big question that we won't know the answer to, until we have real results in georgia. there's a big question as to whether the "access hollywood" moment for donald trump was a marker for a big change in the way american politicians handle these kinds of -- of -- of scandals. particularly republicans. we saw what happened with andrew cuomo. he tried to pull a trump and say i'm not going anywhere. it didn't work out for him. and a few other candidates since then. but this is another example, as trump predicted to maggie over a year ago, of a potential to weather a storm that would not have been weathered before, because republican leaders had

thrown him under the bus. they tried before, and so there's a lesson learned on a leadership level, as well. >> maggie, the house oversight committee said trump's company charged the secret service exorbitant hotel rates for agents protecting the first family at properties they owned, upward of $1.4 million over four years. i want to play what eric trump said in 2019 about what the government spends at trump properties. >> if my father travels, they stay on our property free. we charge them like $50 a night. >> so that doesn't appear to be true. i'm wondering what you made of the comments from eric trump juxtaposed with what the house oversight committee reported? >> the house oversight committee report appears to be based on actual data from what was being spent by the government. it was clear that donald trump

was charging the secret service, you know, certain rates to stay at his properties. they did not appear to be the low market value minimum. this report suggests it was well above that. trump always justifies these things to people as, well, you know, we lose the rooms otherwise, or these are things he would say privately. if there was a vast difference between what he and members of his family have said about what they were doing with the business in terms of trump's involvement with it on one hand, and another with these rooms and what they were actually doing. it is also a reminder that there's a lot of talk at the moment about joe biden and the time that he's spending outside of d.c. and how notable it is he goes home most weekends to delaware. that said, he does not charge people to stay at his private club. and that is a big difference. >> maggie, dana, thank you. coming up next, a live report from kyiv under attack by

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>> reporter: well, i think there's like sort of two components to these attacks, anderson. on the one hand, they seem to be targeting civilian infrastructure, energy plants, power plants, electricity plants. the russians are preparing for winter, which is just around the corner. and they want to basically maximize the pain that civilian populations across the country, but particularly here in the country in kyiv, are going to be feeling during that winter season. but the second component then is the fear factor, the morale factor. you hear that sound of those drones overhead and you can feel that fear in your stomach. the mayor here says that fear is quickly being replaced by anger. take a look. a policeman takes aim at the kamikaze drone as it bears down on kyiv. nicknamed mopeds in ukraine because of their distinctive

whine, 28 were launched towards the city on monday. the majority are successfully shot out of the sky. but four break through, shattering the early morning calm in the heart of the capital. so you can see that's the railway station down at the end. the air is thick with the smell of explosives. investigators are already collecting evidence. excuse me. [ speaking non-english ] it's from the drone, yes? where did you find it? [ speaking non-english ] so they're saying that is the tail fin from the drone that hit. the target, according to ukrainian authorities, kyiv's energy infrastructure. but one hits a residential building nearby with devastating

results. we know at least one person has been killed. rescue workers comb through the smoldering rubble. there had been reports of voices still alive inside. an extraordinarily lucky older woman is rescued from her balcony next door. and bundled away to the hospital. up until one week ago, the city had been relatively calm. now, kyiv's mayor says the russian's goal is to make life as miserable as possible for civilians, as colder weather sets in. >> the russians want to destroy the critical infrastructure, water, lelectricity. >> what impact does this have on the psyche of the people? >> everyone is so angry. everyone want to defend the families, want to defend hometown. >> reporter: as we prepare to

interview a volunteer medic from sweden, the air raid sirens start up again. [ sirens ] >> you must be used to hearing that sound. >> reporter: we move to take cover. three cruise missiles had been reported heading in the direction of kyiv. this time enter intercepted by ukraine's air defenses. but kyiv's residents know there will be more. >> you mentioned 28 of these drones were launched on kyiv monday. how are a lot of them are being brought down. do you know how? >> reporter: so the vast majority of them are being intercepted, which is pretty incredible. the way that they're doing that is a number of ways. first of all, in the most crude of fashions, as you saw in that social media video, very brave policemen are basically taking

their rifles and trying to shoot these things down. they're very difficult for radars to detect, as they fly low. but you can certainly hear them, so you are seeing ordinary citizens basically trying to shoot these down out of the sky. also, of course, the air defense systems have been able to also shoot a number of them down. but the real concern there is that that is not really a sustainable situation, because the problem is that they are ex-pending so much of their kind of precious reserves of their missile defense systems, that they have to, you know, shoot so many of them just to take out one or two drones, and they have been flooded with these drones. the foreign ministry saying, anderson, in the last week there have been something like 100, and that they have hit bridges, they have hit sewage treatment plants, they have hit and damaged one-third of ukraine's

energy infrastructure, just in the last week. so you can imagine how serious this is for the ukrainians. and you can also understand why they are so upset with the iranians for continuing to supply these drones to the russians. >> appreciate it. just ahead, the online threats of political violence. how some republicans are not safe from fringe elements. that's next.

the new information we learned last week from the january 6th committee about the level of social media threats the secret service was receiving ahead of january 6th comes weeks ahead of a midterm election where there are concerns of political violence. after searching the president's home in august at mar-a-lago, there were threats to the attorney general and fbi agents. that same month, election workers reported 1,000 interactions with the public they considered threatening. state officials are boosting security for staff in polling areas. >> mitch mcconnell is a disgrace. >> reporter: when donald trump said that, some of his followers saw it as a message. this is an anonymous account on truth social, responding to a story about trump mentioning that mitch mcconnell has a death

wish, a and this person writes, let's move him to the front of the line of traitors. how seriously should we take this? how worried that some random person on the internet is posting this. >> this is speaking to people throughout the united states who are saying it's acceptable to call for the death of an american official. what kind of country is that? >> reporter: experts who track extreme online say there's been an uptick in violent threats, even talk of civil war, and trump is at the center of it. the major flashpoint, the fbi search of mar-a-lago. >> every time he puts out a statement, it leads to an uptick in violent rhetoric. >> reporter: lock and load red one response. another replied, are we not in a cold civil war at this point? that post turned out to be a washington state man who has pled guilty to unlawfully entering the capitol on january 6th. his account, identified by the

group advance democracy. posts like this are cause for concern, but it's not just anonymous online trolls. >> democrats want republicans dead, and they've already started the killings. >> we are the closest to civil war two we've ever been. >> they plan on having a civil war that brings down america. >> reporter: greg airy, a former fbi agent, read through some of the rhetoric. every fbi who doesn't quit is an enemy of the republic. the fbi is known as the gestapo. treat them as you would a nazi or marxist. >> this makes me angry. to compare them to the gestapo, that is offensive to everyone who works in law enforcement. >> some people watching this will say there's been talk of civil war in this country since the civil war ended.

what makes this different? >> it feels different. it seems like the country is really radicalized to an ex-tent, where they're hearing these messages, and we're breaking off like we've never seen our citizenry do before. >> reporter: calls for civil war have been simmering since january 6th. here's what one couple had to say two days before the capitol attack. >> will you accept joe biden as president? >> no. he'll never be my president. >> but you accept he will be inaugurated? >> no, i don't. >> how could that change at this point? >> there could be a civil war, you never know. >> you don't want a civil war, do you? >> i don't. but show us that this was a fair election or we'll they have accept another vote again, ever. >> reporter: and it's that belief that helps fuel talk of a second civil war. >> they see themselves as true patriots, the defenders of american identity. and they see themselves justified in using whatever

means necessary to safeguard america's identity. >> reporter: barbara walter has studied civil conflicts around the world. would you say by even having a conversation about the prospect of a civil war in the united states, that we're being alarm its itselves, just talking about this? >> i wish that were the case. but the reality is, there are violent extremists who want to overturn the current system. when you go and you talk to people who have lived through civil wars, and i talked to a lot of them, places like sarajevo and belfast and b baghdad, if you asked them if they saw it coming, they all say, we had no idea. >> reporter: i think two years ago, we would not have done a story about this about anonymous comments on the internet. but what we have seen since january 6th is some of those people making those comments go

on to commit violent acts. that is the big challenge for law enforcement, figuring out of these commenters who are the keyboard warriors who will never step out from behind their computer screens, and who may pose an actual threat and go on to commit these violent acts. it's a really difficult task. >> daniel sullivan, i appreciate it. joining me now is my next guest. ross, there was a thwarted attack on an fbi office after the mar-a-lago search. republican senator susan collins said she wouldn't be surprised if a lawmaker got killed. i know you say there are always littlit will wolff -- always li wolves to watch out for. do you have any other concerns? >> america is a deeply polarized

country which people say terrible things about elected officials on the internet, and donald trump has played a particular role in stirring this pot to a boil, and you saw on january 6th that you can get a translation from the internet into reality. all of that's true. it's also true, though, that in 2021, for the first time since 9/11, there was not a single politically motivated terror attack in the united states. that means right wing, left wing, islamic radicals. so this is 2021, the year when joe biden was under trump's narrative, illegitimately elected. if you believe opinion polls, tens of millions of americans on the right thought that biden had stolen the election. this was an unusually politically peaceful year in the u.s. >> what about the january 6th attack? >> so, again, as i said at the outset, anderson, the january

6th attack was a very serious thing. but if the argument is, we're poised to tip into a civil war, you need more than a few hundred people starting a riot outside the capitol. you need large numbers of americans who are prepared to actually enact real political violence. and i think everything that we have seen since january 6th indicates that the vast, vast majority of people who say things like, you know, biden stole the election, they're taking the country from us and so on are not enthusiastic about actual armed conflict in a way that could tip america even into a late 1960s style scenario. let alone the actual term civil war. i also note that what you actually need to get something describable as a civil war are organized forces that are capable of disrupting the federal government's monopoly on force. the only organized force or semi

organized force that seems to be committing quasi acts of terror in the last year are the people committing arson against pro life pregnancy centers, which is not a civil war, is not part of the sort of qanon trump narrative. again, even there, you're just not -- there is no evidence that there's a large-scale appetite in the united states for people to step from the internet into reality and pick up arms. does that mean people can't be inspired to commit acts of violence? it could happen tomorrow, and it's a terrible thing. but i'm very, very skeptical of the leap from there is dangerous rhetoric on the internet that might inspire someone to commit an act of violence to, america is comparable to lebanon in the 1980s. >> i hope you're right. >> me, too. you can have me on when the streets are in flame. >> let's hope it doesn't go

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should house republicans gain the majority in the midterms, kevin mccarthy may have his hands full, at least judging by this comment from

margorie taylor greene in a profile by her by "the new york times" magazine. "i think to be the best speaker of the house, he's going give me a lot of power and leeway," she predicted. "if he doesn't, they will be very unhappy about it. that's not a threat at all, i just think that's reality." robert draper is the author of that piece, as well the new book "chronicling the changing place of the republican party." robert draper joins me now. tl three weeks from the midterms, polling show the republicans have the momentum. how do you square that with the misinformation embraced up and down the ballot by many of their candidates? >> yeah, anderson, as you have likely seen, "the new york times" did a survey which they came to the conclusion that the majority of republican office

seekers for high office have all said the election was stolen. so it's out there. it's pretty plain. but the reality is, as public opinion polls also show, the matter of the fate of our democracy is not in their minds. inflation and the economy are numbers one and two. so it's not likely a factor that you can expect that democrat also do all they can to make a margorie taylor greene to be the poster child of the republican party. but it's very difficult, particularly in an off-year where the party in power tends to lose seats. that's what is likely to occur here. >> we were talking earlier about herschel walker, another controversial republican in georgia. margorie taylor greene that you have spoken to. somewhat do the next couple of years look like if the republicans take control of congress, especially for congresswoman greene? >> what she wants to do has been

clearly laid forth, anderson. it's an open question whether or not the republicans will be able to govern, will be able to get past the things they want passed. certainly, it will be first and foremost the party of retribution. they will punish democrats for having removed greene and others from their committee assignments. they will likely introduce articles of impeachment against president biden. then we'll see if they use social issues tied to the matter of the debt ceiling that we only agreed to raise the debt s.e.a.l. ceiling if they finish the wall. these are all goals, and the republican party, for a very long time, has not been very keen to passing legislation since the tea party, really. and it remains to be seen

whether they can develop any kind of consensus and hold their own party together. >> does congresswoman greene have the power that she sort of indicated in that quote that she gave to you? >> yes. the short answer is yes. she is a representative of the maga base, which constitutes a very, very loud minority within the republican party, and has succeeded in cowing the majority of the more establishment wing to go along for fear they will be primaried. as my -- in my book reporting, i heard time and again democrats would say establishment republicans, how can you let her get away with saying what she is saying. but if they say something to her, they will be primaried. >> she still seems to indicate interest in support of or

curiosity of qanon, certainly gives out, you know, messages to quaran qanon followers that would seem to imply that she backs them. >> yeah. anderson, you're right. she has now rejected qanon, decided that qanon was fake news, too. the fundamental precepts of qanon that president trump is fighting this lonely heroic battle against radical democrats and and against the deep state and democrats are essentially, if not pro pedophilia, then codlers of the same, that they are opening the borders and allowing this great replacement to take place. these are part and parcel of qanon, and those are undying precepts not just with congresswoman greene but others on the hard right of the republican party. >> robert draper, the book is fascinating. thank you. up next, william shatner joins us from los angeles to

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star trek legend william shatner has a new book out with a collection of essays. in the book he reflects on his remarkable life, including his thoughts after soring to the edge of space on jeff bezos' rocket. he became the oldest person to travel to space. he said he had a shift in focus after the experience saying, we are aware of our insignificance but the grandeur around us that makes us insignificant. that allows aus chus a chance t rededicate ourselves if we seize that chance. and he joins us now from los angeles. i like the hopeful message, given all that is going on, you know, it seems overwhelming at

times. >> there's this drumbeat of dread and annihilation. the point is lost. we are in the midst of a political turmoil and this incredibly stupid war that's going on. but the real point is existential existence that our world is facing that as we are talking, things that took 5.5 billion years to evolve are going extinct. so the real focus of concentration has to be saving our world. saving our world not only for us, you'll be gone. but our children, your but your children, by grand children, they are poised on this existential ladder that could collapse at any moment. so, my book, it's about the interconnection of everybody and everything. we're made of star dust, but the

point of connection in the world itself is so profound. it's so intricate. the way we belong to the world and the world belongs to us, that connection is there. should the world fail, we fail. should we not fail, we can save what we've done to the world. so, there's this existential war that's going on. and we are connected to the universe. and in my book, i try to point out that that happened -- it was illustrated not only in my trip to space, but in the musical career that was laughed at to begin with and that ended in triumph at kennedy center. and i sang there, and it was well, and i taped it, and it's an album and it's a television show. but one song that robert and i wrote was called "so fragile so blue," and we're making a music video of it. and in my dream, it becomes the

anthem the way "we are the world," this becomes a song of what can we do is the question asked in the song. >> for a moment i got my hopes up. when you said, in my dream, i thought you were going to say, you anderson cooper, would be in the video. that's what i thought you were going to say. but that's okay. >> you are going to be in the video. >> i think what you say about connection is so important. i've been doing a podcast about loss and grief. and that is something which feels so isolating and yet is actually something that connects us to everyone else on the planet. it is something we all go through, loss and grief. you write about grief, the feeling of grief, that you had coming back from space. and you said -- >> i was out there, anderson, i was up there, and i saw the beauty of the earth, and i saw the deadliness of space. and i suddenly started to weep. when i landed, suddenly, what am

i crying about? and i realized that i was in grief for the world. and it took me a while to understand that we are insignificant. our little world is insignificant. we're a rock. and we are insignificant beings living on the rock. but what we are is we're aware that we're insignificant. and that awareness allows us to look at the universe in awe and wonder and say, what are we doing screaming at each other? surely we can -- can't we all get along? >> you wrote, it was among the strongest feelings of grief i ever encountered, the contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of earth below filled me with overwhelming sadness. every day we're confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of earth at our hands, the extinction of animal species of flora and fauna and we will never see them again because of the interference of

man. i took to space in celebration. instead, it felt like a funeral. so, what is the answer? the book is full of much more than just anecdotes from your life. there is real philosophy that comes across. what do you hope readers take away? >> as a philosophy, attempt to say, we are part of the universe. you can tap into that universe by prayer, meditation, tibetan horns, whatever it is. awareness that we are part of the universe and somehow for me, at any rate, the universe seems to have taken care of me through all the trials and tribulations. i've come out at the end and i feel, wow, that it's okay and that we go on to other things that is taken as a matter of faith. i think it's all there in front of us. >> so, i wish -- do you have tibetan horns?

i would love, one day, to see you with your tibetan horns if you have them. >> no, but i was in -- i was in the -- in a place where the monks went in tibet, and i saw the horns, heard the horns. >> they're amazing. >> oh, i mean, everything vibrates. and it's the vibration of the earth. so, they think it's the vibration of the earth. and why not? >> i read there are some monks who can split their vocal cords or something in some way and they create this sound when they're singing. i might be wrong about splitting the vocal cords, but the sound is incredible. will shatner, i love talking to you. the book is "boldly go: reflections on a life of awe and wonder." up next a little more to

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cancer. ava underwent chemotherapy and radiation. it was brutal. last week ava and her family went to disney world thanks to make a wish foundation. they arrived in florida, had a season to celebrate. though she's not out of the woods yet, they were told her latest mri showed no disease. the family met mickey mouse, went to epcot, rode rides. her favorite ride was thunder mountain, which ava rode with her hands up sh as promised on the program. we wish her well and her family well, and our thoughts tonight are with her and so many kids facing adversity head on. the news continues. let's hand it over to jake let's hand it over to jake tapper and "cnn tonight." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome to "cnn tonight." i am jake tapper. our cherished ideals of free speech are in the hands of erratic billionaires. the most recent of whom