president's council on physical fitness and sports. all of that in short, to say that herschel walker has slot to be proud of. among those accomplishments though, is not a degree from the university of georgia as he is claimed because he never graduated, let alone as he also claimed, in the top 1% of his class. his claim that he was a high school valedictorian, he wasn't. he suggested that he was an fbi agent. >> i spent time at quantico at the fbi training school as an agent. >> he wasn't. he did claim that he was obviously joking, which he did not make clear at the time. this year when the atlanta journal constitution reported his comments as a serious claim, walker's campaign did not tell the newspaper the he was joking. in any case, claiming that nonexistent ties to law enforcement is a familiar refrain of his. in a speech in 2017, he said quote, i work with the cobb county police department and i've been in criminal justice all my life. now, he is standing by this moment from his debate with incumbent democrat -- >> now i have to respond to that. >> we are going on.

>> i after spawn to that. i am a police officer. at the same time -- >> mr. walker, mr. walker, excuse me mr. walker. i need you to let you know that you are very well aware of the rules tonight. you have a prop, that is not allowed sir. i ask you to put that prop away. >> it's not a prop, this is real. he says that i have a prop. >> mister walker, excuse me sir, you are very well. >> again, this is familiar territory for walker, claiming ties that you don't exist. here is what he told nbc's christian in a new interview. >> where is this one from? >> this is from my hometown, this is from johnson county, from the sheriff of johnson county which is a legit that. this batch, give me the right, let me finish, if anything happened in this county of the right to work with the police if anything is done.

>> does that have a resting authority or it is a honorary badge? >> they can call me -- >> i have one of those two, it is honorary, it has no power actually. he added, i working on enforcement. in august, he does not. herschel walker has never had a job in law enforcement. kimberly and i were talking about this, his tires were honorary. his bachelor badges are no different from the wings airlines used to give kids on their first flights. they don't make you a pilot anymore than the mayor giving you the key to the city unlocks any real horse. i've got those two, they don't work. christian welcher also asked him about allegations that the anti abortion candidate paden ex-girlfriend to terminate her pregnancy. >> we did show a copy of the check to walker. he said the allegation that he paid for an abortion isn't

true. >> this is still a life because she is the mother of my child. someone was given a check. that is a lie. >> you know what the 700 dollar check is for? >> i have no idea what that could be for. >> -- >> it doesn't matter if it's my signature or. not >> when pressed, he said definitively for the first time that the check is his. >> yes, that's my check. >> that is the first time he has admitted. however, his suggestion if that's what it is that the money was to help support their child, it doesn't make sense. you heard him say quote, this is still a lie meaning that it was to pay for abortion quote because she is the mother of my child. at that point, she did not yet have a child of his to support. that pregnancy, their second, which she did not terminate, would come later. when asked why voters should believe in him, he said because i've been very transparent about everything i have ever done. republican candidate who is running for governor, has been very transparent about not

accepting the outcome of the election. however, when we asked her if she would have similar doubts about her own, her answer suggested that only if she loses. >> my question is, will you accept the results of your election in november? >> i'm going to win the election and i will accept that result. >> if you lose, will you accept that? >> i'm going to win the election and i will accept that result. >> which of course, is not the same as saying that she will accept actual reality. however, that turns out, or that herschel walker will ever acknowledge the actual reality, that doesn't mean you have to pretend you are in law enforcement. but all of it is tempered by the large reality, what matters to voters next month. new polling suggests that sentiment which had previously being trending democratic is now shifting to republican.

perspective now from dana who we saw a moment ago, also seen -- special assistant to president obama. maggie haberman, cnn political analyst, senior correspondent and author of the remarkable best-selling, confidence, mandating of donald trump and the breaking of america. so dana, let me begin with you. kari lake, i wonder what you made of the interview with her. she clearly does not want to say that she would accept the results, whatever they are of the election. >> she is preserving to do what donald trump did on a national level, especially in the state where she is running, in arizona. that is to not admit and not accept the reality -- i pressure one more time after what you played and she simply said, i'm not even going to entertain that idea because i'm going to win. that is a more traditional answer. that candidates won't even accept the notion of losing at least a few weeks before election day. because she is a very clear election denier when it comes to 2020, calling it corrupt, calling it a stolen one, all the words that we have heard

from donald trump. it's is logical to think that she would use that same strategy for her own election which is why i posture on it. the other question is, if she does become governor, will she use that same strategy in 2024 for the next presidential election which would not only impact the people of arizona but the people of the nation because we saw how pivotal any state, including arizona, can be in a presidential election. >> maggie, herschel walker, the politician is essentially -- in your new book, you write about a conversation you had with trump about walker's quote, complicated personal history, what did he say about? it >> was interesting, he started talking and this was a year ago, little over a year ago, he started talking about walker's history on the football field. he was talking about what a great player he was. this was at a time when senate republicans were still very much a wary of walker before they had thrown in the towel and accepted that he was likely to be the nominee. i mentioned his personal

history and trump said, he does but i'm paraphrasing because i don't have it in front of me, a personal history that ten years ago would've been a big problem, 20 years ago it would've been a bigger problem. i don't think it is a problem today. when i asked him why is that? he said because the world is changing. he did not acknowledge that part of why it is changing is because he has helped change it, he has changed the matrix, he has changed the standards for how some candidates are able to get by on what previously would have been very, very problematic discoveries in their campaigns. >> we hope to get him back. herschel walker has these ever-changing explanations that really don't make sense. yet, it doesn't really, does it matter in georgia? it seems like there is acceptance that people are finding problems with the truth as long as it gets them in the senate majority. there are two ways to answer that question with herschel walker -- what maggie is reporting what all trump said is very true about herschel walker in that

he is kind of a micro version of donald trump himself in that, he is well known as you mentioned at the top of the show, well-known football player and also his foibles are well-known. a lot of republican strategists are saying that they believe that the latest allegations and all of the ramifications from that are kind of baked-in. having said that, there definitely is a big question that we won't know the answer to until we see real results in georgia there is a big question as to whether the access hollywood moment for donald trump was a marker for a big change in the way american politicians handle the kinds of scandals. particularly republicans. we saw what happened with andrew cuomo, he tried to poet trump and say, i'm not going to go anywhere. it didn't work out for him. a few other candidates since

then. this is another example, as trump predicted to maggie over a year ago, of a potential to weather a storm that would not have been weathered before because republican leaders have throw them on the bus. he tried that with -- [inaudible] so, there is a lesson learned on a leadership level as well. >> maggie, the house oversight committee released documents today saying that trump's company charged the secret service exorbitant hotel rates for agents protecting the first family properties that they owned upward of one point $4 million over four years. i just want to play what eric trump said in 2019 about what the trump spends at trump properties. >> if my father travels, they stay out of properties for free. he stays a fortune because if they were go to the hotel across the street, we charge him 50 bucks. >> that doesn't appear to be

true. i wondering what you made of the comments from eric trump juxtaposed with what the house oversight committee report. >> the house oversight committee report appears to be based on actual data from what was being spent by the government. , it made clear for a while that all trump was charging the secret service, there have been reports about it in realtime that donald trump was she charging the secret service rates to stay at his property. they did not appear to be below market value or minimum, this current report suggests it was well above that. trump always justifies these things to people as, well, we

lose the rooms otherwise, or things that he would say privately. again, there is a vast difference between what he and members of his family have said about what they were doing, what the business was doing. in terms of trump's involvement with it on one hand, and other with these rooms. and what they were actually doing, it is also why it is a reminder that there's a lot of talk at the moment about joe biden and the time that he is spending outside of d. c. and how notable it is that he goes home most weekends to delaware. that is, to that said, he does not charge people to stay at his private club. that is a pretty big difference. >> mega averment, dana bash, next, live report from kyiv under attack by russian launched iranian supplied kamikaze drones. how ukrainians are coping with the pentagon's finding against -- later, i'll be joined by william shatner, going to space and the status that he is now seeing follow.

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this new reporting tonight. defense official tells cnn the pentagon is trying to accelerate the delivery of advanced missile systems to ukraine. the move comes as kyiv struggles to deal with russia, launching swarms of iranian supplied loitering munitions, better known as kamikaze drones, but the ukrainian capital. the attack killed four people. international correspondent clarissa world is back in ukraine, and joins us now. -- how specific are these attacks or not, and how much damage was done? >> well, i think this sort of two components to these attacks, anderson. on the one hand, they seem to be targeting civilian infrastructure. energy plants, power plants, electricity plants. the russians are preparing for winter, which is just around the corner. and they want to basically maximize the pain. the pain that civilian

populations across the country, but particularly here in the capital of kyiv, are gonna be feeling during the winter season. the second component, them, is the fear factor. the morale factor. you hear that sound of those drones overhead, and you can feel the fear and your stomach. but interestingly, talking to the mayor here, he says that fear is actually quickly being replaced by anger. take a look. >> a policeman takes aim at the kamikaze drone as it bears down on kyiv. -- because if their distinctive wine, 28 relaunched towards the city on monday. the majority i successfully shot out of the sky. but for breakthrough, shattering the early morning calm in the heart of the capital. >> so you can see, that's the railway station down at the end. the air is thick with the smell

of explosives. >> investigators are already collecting evidence. >> excuse me. excuse me? it's from the drone, yes? where did you find? [speaking non-english] so, they're saying that's the tail fin from the drone that hit. >> the target, according to ukrainian authorities, kyiv's energy infrastructure. but one hits a residential building nearby. it's devastating results. >> we can see at least one person has been killed. they're taking the body away now. >> rescue workers comb through the smoldering rubble. there have been reports of voices still alive inside. an extraordinarily lucky older women's rescued from her balcony next door. bundled the way to the hospital up until one week ago, the city had been relatively calm. now, the mayor says that goal is to make this as miserable as possible for civilians as the

why there of winters hudson. >> water, electricity, heating. they're trying to destroy the infrastructure. >> what impact does this have on the people of kyiv now that there are kamikaze drones attacking your town? >> everyone is so angry. everyone wants to defend their families and their hometown. >> as we prepared to interview a volunteer medic from sweden, the air raid sirens that up again. [noise] >> it must be used to hearing that sound by no. >> we move to take tough cover. three cruise missiles have been reported heading in the direction of kyiv. this time, they're intercepted by ukraine's air defenses. he was residents know that there will be more. >> chris, you mentioned 28 of

these drugs were launched on kyiv just on monday. we saw police been trying to shoot some down. how are -- a lot of them seem like they're being brought down. do you know how? >> so, anderson, the vast majority of them are being intercepted, which is pretty incredible. the way that they're doing that as a number of ways. first of all,, in the most crude of fashions, as you saw in that social media video, that extraordinary video, very brave policeman are basically taking their rifles and trying to shoot these things down. they're very difficult for radars to detect, they fly low, but you can certainly hear them. so you seem citizens basically trying to shoot these down out of the sky. also, of course, the air defense systems have been able to also shoot a number of them down.

but the real concern there is that that is not really a sustainable situation. because the problem is that they are expending so much of their kind of precious reserves of their missile defense systems that they have to, you know, shoot so many of them just to take out one or two drones. and i've been flooded with these trans. the foreign ministry saying, anderson, and the last week, there have been something like 100, and they've hit bridges, they fit sewage treatment plants, they've hit and damaged one third of ukraine's energy infrastructure just in the last week. you can imagine how serious this is for the ukrainians. you can also understand why they are so upset with the iranians for continuing to supply these trends to the russians. >> clarissa ward, appreciate it. be careful. just ahead, the online threats

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>> the new information we learned last week from january six committee about the level of social media threats the secret service was receiving ahead of january 6th comes week ahead of a midterm election weather again concerns about the potential for threats and political violence. after the search of the former president's mar-a-lago home invite august, there were threats against fbi agents and the attorney general. that's a month, the doj said election workers had reported the thousand interactions with the public they considered hostile or threatening. state election officials are boosting security for staff and polling areas. donie o'sullivan has more.

>> mitch mcconnell is a disgrace. >> -- connell had a death wish, some of his followers sought as a message. this is an anonymous account on truth social responding to a story about trump mentioning that mitch mcconnell has a death wish, and this person, they right, let's move him to the front of line of traders. how seriously should we take this? -- should we really be that concerned by? >> i think we have to. this is speaking to people throughout the united states who are saying, okay, it's okay to call for the death of an american official. what kind of country is that? >> efforts to track extremism online say in the past months, there's been an increase in bats and talk of civil war. trump is at the center. the major flash point, the fbi search of mar-a-lago. >> every time he puts out a new

statement, and leads to a dramatic uptick in violent rhetoric across fringe platforms. >> lock and load, read one responds on a pro trump forum. another user replied, are we not in a civil war at this point? >> -- pleaded guilty to unlawfully entering the capitol on january 6th. as account identified by the -- a cause for concern, but it's not just anonymous online trolls beating the civil war trump. >> democrats won republicans that. and they've already started the killings. >> we are the closest to civil war to we've ever been. >> a civil war that brings down america. >> greg yuri, a former fbi special agent, read through some of the violent rhetoric that came after the mar-a-lago search. >> -- anyone who doesn't quite in the

next few weeks is -- gestapo. treat them how you would treat a not see or a marxist agent coming for your kids. >> this makes me, angry obviously, as a former fbi agent, to compare them to the top. to call them marxists. to say it they should be treated as such as an offense to everyone who works in law enforcement. >> i think some people watching this will say there's been talk of civil war in this country since the civil war ended. what makes this moment different? >> it feels different. during this period, and this election. it seems like the country israeli radicalized to an extent. the more receptive, they're hearing these messages, and are breaking off into different factions like we've never seen our citizenry do before.

>> calls for civil war intensified around january 6th, and been intensifying ever since. here's what a couple had to say outside the trump rally two days before the capitol attack. >> will you accept joe biden as president? >> no. i'll never be my president. >> okay. but you accept that he's gonna be inaugurated? >> no, i don't. >> i mean, how could that change at this point? >> that could be civil war, you never know. >> you don't actually want to civil war, do you? >> i don't. so as the voting machines. show us the ballots. show us this was a fair election. i will never accept another vote again. after. >> and those that belief and the lie of a stolen election that helps fuel talk of a second civil war. >> they see themselves as true patriots. the defenders of american identity. and they see themselves justified in using whatever means necessary to safeguard

america's identity. >> barbara walter has studied civil conflicts around the world. >> when you say that by even having a conversation about the prospect of a civil war in the united states, that were being alarmist? just even talking about this? >> i wish that were the case. i wish. if i stop talking about this, if everybody else stopped, this problem would go away. but the reality is, there are violent extremists who want to overturn the current system. when you go and talk to people who've lived through civil wars, and i've talked to a lot of them, places like sarajevo, and back that, and belfast, and you ask if they saw them coming, they all have the same thing. they say no, we had no idea. >> and anderson, you, know i think 30 years ago, we would not have done a story like this -- but what we've seen since january 6th is that some people who made those comments have gone on to commit violent acts. that's the big challenge for law enforcement. figuring out, of these

commenters, who are the keyboard warriors who will never step out from their basements or from behind the computer screens, and who may pose an actual threat and go on to commit violent acts? it's a difficult task. >> yeah. donie sullivan, appreciate it. -- written about this from a different side of the issue. in, fact the title is called, quote, let's not invent a civil war. ross, it certainly seems sensible. let's not juventus where. there was a parted attack on an fbi field officer after the mar-a-lago search. you newspaper recently detailed increasing threats to members of congress. -- quote, wouldn't be surprised if along maker and did not being killed. i know you say that there are always lone wolf so watch out for, which is certainly true. do have concerns beyond that? >> i mean, i think it's

obviously true that america is a deeply polarized country in which people say terrible things about elected officials on the internet, and that donald trump has played a particular role in sort of stirring this pot of oil, and you saw on january 6th that you can get a translation from the internet to reality. all of that's true. it's also true, though, that in 2021, for the first time since 9/11, there was not a single menace politically motivated terror attack in the united states. that means right wing, it means left-wing, and means islamic radicals. so this is 2021, the air when joe biden was under trump's merit narrative, illegitimately elected. a few -- tens of millions of americans on the right believe that biden stole an election. this was an unusually politically peaceful year. one year since the january 6th -- so, again, as i said at the outset, anderson, the january 6th attack was a very serious thing. but if the argument is more poised to tip into a civil war, you need more than a few hundred people starting a riot outside the capitol. we need large numbers of

americans who are prepared to actually enact real political violence. and i think everything we've seen since january 6th indicates that the vast majority of people who say things like, you know, biden stole the election, they're taking the country from us, and so, on are not enthusiastic about actual armed conflict and a way that could tip america even into a late 1960s style scenario, let alone the actual terms of where. i'd also note that the main -- when you actually need to get something describable as a civil war are organized forces. that are capable of disrupting the federal government monopoly on fourth. the only organized force or semi organized for us that seems to be committing quasi-acts of terrorism in the last year by the people vandalizing and committing arson against pro-life pregnancy centers, which is not part of the qanon trump narrative. even there, there's no evidence that there's a large-scale appetite in the united states for people to stop from the internet into reality and take up arms. does that mean that people can be inspired to commit acts of violence? no. it could happen tomorrow, and

it's a terrible thing. but i am very skeptical of the leap from, this dangerous rhetoric on the internet that might inspire someone to commit an act of violence, to america is comparable to lebanon in the 1980s. >> i hope you're right. >> me too. you're gonna have me on when, you know, the streets are in flames. >> let's hope it doesn't go there. ross, appreciate. it just, ahead how congresswoman marjorie taylor greene sees her role in the republican party now in the republican state house, and she told a reporter and author about it who joins us next. this is going to be great. taking the shawl off. is he looking at my hairline? is plaque psoriasis making you rethink your everyday choices? otezla is a pill, not a cream or injection

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>> should house republicans gain a majority -- mccarthy may have his hands fall. judging by this comment from marjorie taylor greene in a fascinating new pry file in the new york times magazine. quote, i think to be the best speaker of the house and to please the base, he's gonna give me a lot of power in a lot of leeway, she predicted, in a flat, an emotional voice. and if he doesn't, they're gonna be very unhappy about it. i don't think that's a threat, that's just reality. robert draper is the author of that piece as well as -- chronicling the changing face of the republican party. he called it weapons of mass delusion: when the republican party lost its mind. he joins me now. robert, thanks for being with us. where three weeks out from the midterms, polls suggest republicans have momentum in their direction. how do you square that with the purse phase of miss information

-- embraced by a lot of it candidates? >> yeah, anderson. as you've likely seen, the new york times did a survey in which they statistically came to the conclusion that the majority of republican office seekers for high office of all said that the election was stolen. so it's out there, it's pretty plain. but the reality is that as public opinion polls also shown, the matter of the faith of our democracy is not uppermost in their minds. inflation in the economy are numbers two and one, i believe. and so, it's not likely to be affected. you can certainly expect that democrats will do all they can to make marjorie taylor greene be the poster child of the republican party, but it's difficult, particularly in an off year where the party in power tends to lose seats. that's likely to occur here. >> we're talking about herschel walker, obviously another controversial republican in georgia, marjorie taylor greene, who spoken extensively. based on what you, found what did the next few years look

like if they gain control of congress? >> when marjorie taylor greene wants to do has been clearly laid forth, anderson. it's an open question as to whether the republicans will be able to govern, will actually be able to get past the things they want to get past. but, certainly, it will be first and foremost the party of retribution. they will punish democrats for having removed green and paul gosar from their committee assignments. they will almost certainly come up with some rationale to introduce our articles of impeachment against president biden and perhaps some of his cabinet members as well. then, we'll see what they do. whether or not they use social issues as tied to, for example, the matter of the -- debt ceiling if you will,

finish the wall. i know that's what greenwood like to see. she like to see a four year or more term on immigration. but again, these are all goals. and the republican party, for a very long time, has not been very adroit at passing legislation. since the tea party, really. and it remains to be seen whether they will be able to develop any kind of consensus. and hold their own party together, much less pecan arbor crowded votes. >> this crime groups woman marjorie taylor greene really have the party that she sort of indicated them that quote that she gave to you? >> yes. the short answer is yes. i mean, she's a representative of the maga base which constitutes a very loud, loud minority within the republican party and has succeeded in counting the majority of the more establishment way to go along. for fear that they will be

primaried, as in my book for parting, i heard time again. democrats would say two establishment republicans, how can you let marjorie taylor greene say what she say and get away with what she's getting away with? but they say, if i criticize her, i'll be primaried. if i lose my primary, and the person who replaces me is not gonna be someone you're gonna want to see in congress. you'd rather be me, even if i'm going to ground on moments like this. >> she still seems to indicate interest in support or curiosity of qanon. we're certainly gives out messages to qanon followers that would seem to imply many she backs them. >> yeah. anderson, you're right. she has now rejected qanon, hopefully she decided they were fake news to. the fundamental precepts of qanon, however, that president trump is fighting this lonely heroic battle against radical democrats in the deep state, and that democrats are essentially pro-pedophilia, then kabul use of same, but their opening borders and allowing this great replacement to take place, these are all things that are part and parcel of qanon, and those are undying precepts of not just marjorie taylor greene, but a lot of others in the hard-line

republican party. >> robert schaffer, book is fascinating. weapons of mass delusion: how the republican party lost his mind, out tomorrow. thanks so much. up next, william shatner joins us from los angeles to talk about his new collection of essays about the life as things he learned over his nine decades, including his thoughts on his journey to the edge of space. we look forward to that. we'll see you in a moment. be right back with us. ♪ ♪ luxury exemplified.

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>> star trek legend and recent space traveler with william shatner has a new book out with a new collection of essays under the fitting title, boldly go: reflections on the life of awe and wonder. in the book, he reflects on his remarkable life, including his thoughts on sailing to the edge

of space in the blue origin rocket, jeff bezos is rock. it might remember -- 90-year-old became the oldest person to travel on to face -- space. writing the book, quote, we're aware not only of our insignificance, but the grander around us that makes us insignificance. that allows us, perhaps, a chance to wreak dedicated us ourselves to our planet, each other, and life all around us if we see that chance. and william shatner joins us now from los angeles. i like the hopeful message, given all that's going on. it seems overwhelming at times. >> listening to your previous guests, and there is this drumbeat of dread and annihilation, and the point is lost. we are in the midst of political turmoil, and this incredibly stupid war that's going on. but the real point it is the existential existence that our world is facing, that is you and i are talking, things that took five and a half billion years to evolve are going extinct. so the real war, the real focus and concentration has got to be saving our world. saving our world not only for

us, for you with your gray hair, you'll be gone by the time -- [laughs] but our children, your children, my grandchildren, they are poised on this existential ladder that could collapse at any moment. so my book, it's about the interconnection of everybody in everything. mermaid of stardust, but the point of connection and the world itself is so profound and so intricate. the way we belong to the world and the world belongs to us, that connection is there. should the world fail, we fail. should we not fail, we can save what we've done to the world. so this is existential war that's going on. and we are connected to the universe. and in my book, i try to point to act that that happened -- it was illustrated not only in my trip to space, but in the musical career that was left to begin with, and that ended in triumph at the kennedy center, and i saying there, and i taped it, and there's an album, and it's a television show.

but one song that rob chernow and i wrote is called so fragile, so blue. and we're making a music video of it. and in my dream, it becomes the anthem, the way we are the world -- this becomes the son of, what can we do? is the question asked in the song. >> for a moment, i got my hopes up when i said -- when he said, in my, dream you, anderson cooper, would be in the video. that's what i thought you were gonna say. but that's okay. >> you're gonna be in the video! it'll be the first person in the cast. >> but i think when you say about connection is so important.

i've been doing a podcast about loss and grief, and that is something which feels so isolating. and yet, it's actually something that connects us to everyone else on the planet. it's something we all go through, loss and grief. you write about grief, this feeling of grief that you had coming back from space. and you said -- >> i was up there, anderson, i was up there, and i saw the beauty of the earth, and i saw the deadliness of space, and i suddenly started to weep. when i landed. saying, what am i crying about? and i realized i was in grief of the world. and it took me a while to understand that we are in significant. our little world is insignificant. wear a rock. and where insignificant beings living on the rock. but what we are, is we're aware that were insignificant.

and that awareness allows us to look at the universe in awe and wonder and say, wow, look at this. what are we doing screaming out each other? surely, we can -- can't we all get along? >> you've got, and you wrote, it was among the strongest feelings of grief i've ever encountered. the contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of earth below me. it fills me with overwhelming sadness. every, day we're confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of earth at our hands. the extinction of animal species, flora, fauna, things that took five billion years to evolve. and suddenly, we'll never see them again because of the interference of mankind. it fills me with dread. my trip to space was supposed to be a celebration, instead, it felt like a funeral. so what is the answer? the book is full of much more than just, you know, anecdotes from your life. there's real philosophy that comes across. what is -- what do you hope is the takeaway? >> as a philosophy, i'm tempted

to see, were part of the universe. you can tap into that universe by prayer, meditation, the baton horns, whatever it is. awareness that we are part of the universe, and somehow, for me at any rate, the universe seems to have taken care of me. through all the trials and tribulations, i've come out at the end, and i feel, wow, that it's okay. and that we go on to other things that are taken as a matter of faith. i think it's all there in front of us. >> i wish -- do you have tibetan orians? because i would love one day to see you with your tibetan horns, if you have them. >> now, but i was in a place where the monks went in about, and i saw the horns. i heard the points. >> they're amazing. >> well, everything vibrate's. and it's the vibration of the earth. and why not? >> i heard there is some angst that can support the vocal cords in some way and create this incredible sound when they're chanting? might be wrong about splitting the vocal cords. but i think about that. but the sound is incredible. listen, part of time. bill shatner, i love talking to

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>> we leave you tonight with some good news on five year old eva, the brain cancer warrior. if you like psycho, kindness awareness month, you may recall i spoke to her mom. her mom's direct message, on instagram, initially about terrified and the struggles that so many families are having here and around the world because there just isn't

enough money going to research for new treatments for child and brain cancers. a lot of the treatments are very owed. eva underwent chemotherapy and radiation. it was brutal. last, week abe and her family went to disney world thanks to a make-a-wish foundation. this is a foul with her family from cinderella's castle. they arrived in florida. they had a reason to celebrate, though she's not april school yet. they told her -- she has no evidence of. even her family had a great time. they met mickey mouse. they give him big hugs. the family also went to a pop, road rights there. . her favorite right was back in magic kingdom thunder mountain which is a road, with her hands up on as promised on the program last time we talked to her. we wish her well and her family well and our thoughts tonight are with so many kids and her families facing adversity. news continues, let's hand it over to jake tapper and cnn tonight. >> welcome to cnn tonight. i'm jake tapper. our cherished ideals of free speech are in the hands of erratic billionaires.