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>> i like that a lot >> for everyone as a santa night i'm alison camera am laura coates. >> we're 20 days away from the all-important midterm elections with key races around the nation tightening up, especially those who decide who controls the senate. though he's not on the ballot, how much of a factor is the former president donald trump in how americans will vote? >> there are significant developments and, a lot is percolating right now. here are just some of the headlines in the course of just a few hours. this is from cnn politics exclusive. trump considers allowing federal investigators to search mar-a-lago. again a federal john which says trump signed legal documents that he knew included false voter fraud numbers. >> also you've got trump appearing for a deposition in the e. jean carroll lawsuit, and in 2021 there is a video where trump is asking is this a good jewish character right

here? alison, you think about all the different things they are focusing on, it's almost impossible to not think about him around this time. the question is going to be how people perceive all of this. is it coincidental or is it strategic in some way? or is it just all coming to a head because there been so many legal threads that have been out there force of many mounts? >> the e. jean carroll, one she was launched in 2019 and he had delayed and delayed and now finally the judge said no more delay tactics. >> even with the mar-a-lago issue. when we heard about the actual search warrant they executed, it was 18 months in the making at that point in time. so i'm curious how people view it because the doj, they're kind of handoff hands off from the labor day weekend on. a lot talk about with our

commentators, david urban, we've got to david's for the price of one. >> okay, we'll figure that out. we can handle that. >> you both very pretty, it's wonderful. >> thanks for joining the show. >> so here's my first question. i did a lot of percolating. so let's try to narrow it down right now. the e. jean carroll deposition happened today. we don't know what donald trump said, we don't know if he pled the fifth, we don't know what happened in their. and then there's this federal judge who basically says donald trump made false statements about he knew that there wasn't amount of fraud and he said it in cote court and that sounds serious. so do we know how all of these different things that are percolating, which has the most leaguer legal jeopardy? >> let's stick with the 80 theme, and we would be called studly. >> in terms of this judge's opinion coming forth today, here's the thing, allison. there's a difference between saying something on the

campaign trail, saying something in the white house briefing room, and saying something to a court, to a judge, in a legal filing, and this judge is basically saying, look, whatever else you said or are saying in front of the cameras, when you talk to the court, you must be truthful. whether or not it is found that the president was speaking knowingly falsely or he was just touting his normal election denialism remains to be seen and remains to be seen if this can be proven in court. but that is what is at stake here. there's a different standard between court documents and just hey, i'm on television comments. >> youève got the court of the law we have this duty, and then you have the court of public opinion, then the court of the electorate. you are laughing because these all intersect all at once all of a sudden. and you do see that cumulative aspect. part of the allegation is, you know when you signed these documents that there wasn't widespread fraud, that it wasn't a problem, lying to the camera was totally different.

but in the views of the voters i wonder how you to come out on this. is this something that's really going to persuade or have any impact? >> i am sure marie and i will completely agree. here's what i have to say about the trump stuff. it is democrat's biggest dream to talk about donald trump and not about the economy, not about inflation, not about any issues so we throw enough donald trump up in the air maybe voters won't doing were doing no we're doing a bad job. that's what i think is going on right now. and if it weren't true you would see more people say we don't want to talk about trump let's talk about the job are doing for the american people, let's focus on the issues. if we had something to talk about, that's what we talk about. if you don't have the facts, you pound the table, right? so they're pounding the table here. >> here are two places where my dear friend david is wrong. number one, he says they're

throwing trump into the mix. we're not doing anything. this is the judge. this is the gazillion number of investigations that are going on around trump's illegality. that is not our doing. that's trump's doing. that's number one. the second thing is if you go out on the campaign trail you look at the democratic candidates are talking about are not talking about trump. they're trying about these issues. but what i do think all of this does, and frankly i think it's baked into both sides of whether you're a trump supporter, none of this is gonna matter but where i do think this matters is will there are several polls that say threats to democracy were a priority issue for these voters. so the more trump is in the headlines, the more we see he is being deposed, the more we see a judge talking about how he knew this was, fraud we all knew he knew it was, fraud but the fact that the judge says it is going to bring to mind and

have top of mind for all of these voters, how they kicked him out in 2020 and they don't want that kind of chaos and so many of the candidates running now are trump acolytes, election deniers, and they will get the same thing -- >> the thing about it is the it's not the first time the american electorate has heard a judge say there is no beef, where is it, an obvious things. and a recent poll in the new york times poll just to yesterday, look, it might be a known quantity, that people believe our democracy is in peril, but do they prioritize it over the election, the economy? do they prioritize it over, say, abortion? >> no. the study i'm most familiar

with is from cue from august on the midterms, and i actually wrote a. down the issues that are the top or things like economy, guns, crime, health care, voting, education. democracy is in the mix. voting rights isn't. next abortion is the mix, but they're not at the top of the list. and that's in august. trust, me all the recent stuff shows it's the economy. it's kitchen table issues, inflation, crime. >> it makes sense, except that i do have a voter panel coming up, and they all mention democracy. maybe it's not as important as the kitchen table, but they all feel it and they are bring it up. and do you know why? because voters are actually smart. when people say, voters only care about inflation, they only care about the economy, you're dismissing the intelligence of the voting population in this country. we are able to hold more than one issue in our heads, and we're able to go into the voting booth and prioritize. it doesn't mean you dismissing every single other issue because you only care about the economy. but you're going to think about this person that i'm voting for, what is this going to mean for the future of our democracy? and that means the world is specifically in the swing districts, in these senate

seats, because people understand how important -- >> ellison, on this point, because the pulse of what the nation is thinking. >> interestingly enough, david, it is true that it can be that -- is stupid, by the same token can anything get done unless democracy is prioritized? >> i'm not saying, i've seen poll after poll, americans on both sides of the aisle are fearful of where we are as a nation. you have stacey abrams in georgia saying it's basically the flipside of what a lot of republicans are saying. we don't trust our elections anymore. we don't trust the polls. we don't trust these things. if we break down as a, country don't trust elections to be truthful and faithful, then democracy is in trouble. and that's what everybody should be concerned about, whether you're democrat or republican. and it shows up amongst republicans as well as democrats on the left and the right.

[inaudible] >> you have one party that focuses on -- >> i want to hear all of you. >> no, i was just gonna say, i think your point is fair. i think you have to put the lion's share of that onus on former president trump, for stoking so much distrust in the 2020 results. it's one thing to question them, it's a another thing to pursue your legal case, it's another thing two years later to, say this whole thing was -- >> listen, ask me if i thought donald from trump won in 2020. >> he lost. my point is most people i think the illinois rt. there are some subsection of people who don't. >> [inaudible] >> our friend stacey abrams in georgia, she alleges a lot of voter fraud. she did concede the race but she throws up smoke and doesn't say it wasn't fair.

>> you can't really compare that to a former president who instigated a coup that almost brought down our democracy. >> is stacey abrams making people in georgia feel better about their election? >> what stacey abrams is doing is making not just her followers but georgia voters understand the importance of having their voices heard. having their vote counted. i guarantee you. [inaudible] when you have rules the keeping people from voting that's called disenfranchisement. >> i'm feeling in fact here. more people voted in the -- >> let me finish -- most people more people voted in the last election in georgia than ever in history. >> you're right. that's exactly right. >> just because more people voted, david, no no no, it

doesn't mean that they are not disenfranchised. it means that, for example, me as a latino voter, if i believe it, i'm gonna go to the polls, they're gonna ask me for my i. d. and i don't have an idea, i'm going to make as sure as heck, that i have my i. d., that means people are trying harder than ever to prove to the powers that be that it is not that easy to take away their vote. that's what that means. >> i still don't understand your point. if more people show up to vote, they try to participate -- >> there are rules are being put in place to try to participate, and they know that, those voters are going to try. they're gonna do everything they can. to ensure that -- >> i want to hear from each of your opinion so make sure i can hear you. is that clear? >> i understand the point you're trying to make. you're trying to say you shouldn't have an i. d. to vote. >> no. @thelauracoates i >> i'm

missing your point then. >> what i'm saying is the harder that legislators, let's talk about georgia because there's no question that brian kemp has tried to make it as hard as possible for people to vote -- >> by doing what? >> by require ring and i. d.. >> you should have an i. d. to vote. >> by making less places available to go vote. and by the way, here in washington d. c. you don't need an i. d.. have we had massive voter fraud? no. but hang on. because these have been the safest elections that we have had in 2020. >> [inaudible] >> we have a fundamental disagrement. i can give you an idea to vote. >> what i want to say this point is this, you can talk about georgia, you can talk about democrats, excuse me, leader abrams. if you have a situation like we do now, where a big chunk of one, party the republican party -- >> hold on a second. >> look, david -- >> listen -- >> let me just get this one point in. if you have a big chunk of one party, in a two party system, that is unwilling to accept that it can lose a national

election, then a two party system seems to cease to exist. >> there is a chunk of the republican party, i would disagree with a big chunk part. >> it's a majority -- >> i wouldn't say it's a majority of the republicans. >> show me the numbers. >> i will. i take that challenge. so, how are voters in battleground states feeling about midterms? i'll sit down with a group of voters to speak about the issues that could be driving on to the polls, our pulse to the people, up next.

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we're less than three weeks away from the critical midterm elections, and we wanted to check in with voters in battleground states, to see what's at the top of their minds. so we've assembled a group of republicans and democrats, from michigan, arizona, pennsylvania and nevada. as you can, see these voters do not fall within each party lines, in, fact some intend to vote for the opposing candidate, because they think their own party's candidate is too extreme. here now's pulse of the people. >> in a couple of sentences, if you can tell me what you think

the top issue in the country is right now. well, for me one of the top issues is school security i have two daughters who are in school right now, and that is a big focus of mine. being a former captain in the u. s. army is very prevalent for me to make sure that my daughters are safe, because that's what i thought for. >> as a college student in philadelphia, in an area where covid and crime has risen substantially, i'm especially concerned about being able to feel safe on campus, being able to go from class to class. >> what kinds of crimes are you seeing more of? >> so, a lot more robberies with weapons on campus, you get the text alerts every single time. >> across the city of philadelphia. -- >> people are breaking into stores, there are assaulting people. i open carry i concealed carry

in the grocery store might not because i hate people -- >> how many of you at some level will be voting on, crime or feel that crime is a big issue in your life. >> okay, so three of you feel that crime is a big issue. and you all happened to be the three or republicans on our panel, so my question for the three democrats who didn't raise our hand, for crime being one of their top issues, why not? >> so, living in nevada,, i was part of the crisis response for the october 1st massacre in las vegas, it's the largest mass shooting we've had in the country. i'm also a democrat, i'm also a gun owner, so those aspects to this definition of crime, is a much bigger picture. there's a lot of sub topics on issues but fall under crime, that we look at. >> one of the issues of why those increased crime, we have such incredible access to new weaponry, a few years ago i was

involved with a shooting at a big box retailer. we could hear gunshots, we can hear people moaning,. and once we were cleared by police, we actually had to walk through the victims blood on the floor. it's just a traumatic experience, it's some thing that is permeating every grocery store, movie theater, so many private and public aspects of his life our life or fight to buy violence, and i think that's really the issue is what's going on with our society, and how can we have a real conversation about the being safe. >> that's what i was going to say, amy. well the same page with it. until we have people who are willing to come to the table, and have credible solutions on this issue, i don't think we'll go very far. >> let's talk about the economy. show of hands, how many of you think that the economy is what most people will be voting on at the midterms. two of you, okay.

lydia, give me your thoughts. >> i see it every, day i look in the my bank, account and the bank account it affects me every single day. when i have to make decisions if i'm gonna buy milk or eggs, and seen gas prices here, nevada they're skyrocketing. there's no, reason we have a biden administration in federal reserve, that are just pumping money into the system, and it's just causing inflation. >> on college campuses everywhere, in particular you my own you can see the anxiety brewing over economic decisions that students have to make every day, buying textbooks, paying for college, rent and off campus apartments et cetera. >> if we're actually talking about the high cost of education, the facts of the wages are stagnant compared to where they were decades ago, that they are having difficulty with health care expenses. and high deductibles and can't afford medication, these are the issues that democratic candidates are talking about. >> let's talk about abortion, how many, have you show of hands --

okay so four of you. >> i can tell, you i do not believe it's my place as a male, nor should be any male's place to tell a female which he can and cannot do with their body. i have friends who have been raped, i friends who have been abused, and i think what frustrates me even more, as we sit and we listen to the supreme court nominees who go through the confirmation process to say things such as roe v. wade has been codified. >> you need to be the spokesperson for women's rights, because you're exactly right, a woman should have the right to do as she will with her own body, just as men do. and you don't see a group of women trying to make laws that would prevent men from getting vasectomies, or doing whatever it is they do choose to do with their bodies. >> abortion simply isn't a hot topic here in nevada, it's not on the ballot here right here in nevada, you can have an abortion up to 24 weeks. so it's a really huge

democratic talking point abortions or been uses birth, control that's not okay. >> do we have the right to presume a woman may need an abortion? maybe it's rape or incest, maybe it's actually because she's developed cancer. i was very late along in a pregnancy with my young daughter, and found that i had abnormal cells, and thank god i was able to make it through that pregnancy, and that procedure was able to take place after i was able to successfully deliver. -- it's really a private matter and a decision that a woman should have with her doctor and the federal government or the politician as a last person and earth i had one in the room making that decision. >> chloe, as a gen z college student, i'm interested in your position on this. >> so the abortion component is why i'm not voting for mastriano, he has made it his number one issue. >> and chloe, just to be clear, you're in pennsylvania, you consider yourself a republican, but you're not gonna vote for the republican candidate mastriano for governor.

>> no, and frankly it's really discouraging that he's made ending and restricting abortion is number one issue. the way that he describes it seems at it as it is as if it is a siege on women. i'd like to think that is not the national dialogue, but his rhetoric in the way that he's approaching, it is really problematic for republicans and democrats alike, and i'd like to see more moderate republicans who have solutions that do respect a woman's bodily autonomy, but also the life of puffiness. and mastriano is not that. >> -- what do you think that herschel walker abortion claims, what do you think that is doing to the race, and does that matter to you? >> herschel walker. i'm gonna sigh on that one for a second. i don't agree with pretty much anything that he says. he is a man who has shown extensively that he's done some extraordinarily ruthless things to his family members, and his

ex-wife, choking her until she passed out. i mean he's just a violent man. >> so though you are a republican, you would vote for raphael warnock, his opponent, who is a democrat? >> probably so, i'm just so overwhelmed by what he has, done that it really bothers me that he has the nerve and audacity to even be on this ballot. i said it. >> there are always so interesting, i learned so much every time laura from talking to these voters, they give me an entirely different perspective. it is interesting for me to hear, three republicans think crime is never an issue, and the three democrats -- i guess i left this on the cutting room floor, i think that is democracy, that was the number one thing they said. so this is a totally different perspective.

>> you keep reading all these op-eds, and social media everywhere, how about this ticket splitting, and the idea of people saying, i'm not just gonna vote for whoever is in my party i want to vote for the issues, and that is a bit of a change, we are so used to and accustomed to a red, state a blue state, and purple is the shock, but you get the image here, that purple is the theory of, i'm gonna vote for the issues i believe, in and those that are in line with that, okay. the fact that some foreign concept to us these days is fascinating. >> and also people don't get a narrow boxes. >> you can't do, that i think sometimes candidates think that, they do not. >> we'll talk more about this, we just heard the voters take on the crime, the economy, abortion, how does that all translate to a whole who comes out on top in the midterms, that's next. at howard university so it's really a special moment to know that i had a family member who over a hundred years prior have walk these grounds.

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as you just heard. crime, the economy, abortion and democracy, are the top issues for voters in battleground states tells what they're focusing on. so it was fascinating for me to sit down with this group of battleground voters, one of the things that was fascinating was the three democrats said that democracy and human rights were what they were voting on. the three republicans that crime, right away. and, then it turns out in the conversation, the two of the democrats were in mass shootings. they were somehow involved in mass shootings, and so they're traumatized by that, but they didn't say crime is our number one. because basically they say crime is so complicated, is it about access to weapons, is it

about poverty and people feeling desperate. but they just labeled it death differently. >> i love that conversation you had, because it i think it showed another depth to the issue of crime, which i don't think it's been measured by all these polls, and the assumption that when people say crime, they mean the kind of crime that republicans are pushing that is bad for democrats. i've talked to so many democrats who said yes, the issue of crime is top of mind for me because there are so many guns on the street, and republicans want to do nothing to try to curtail the number of guns on the street, and that goes to this issue of gun safety. and if that's how you call crime, that issue in that way, that's gonna turn to democrats. >> that's in a way you called the pollerr coaster, you could always find a way of asking question leads a horse to water makes them drink, and why that's illuminating is because you really have to unpack that.

>> oh -- and knew what the other was talking about, we would have more agreement on these issues. >> that was really good, panel like you said before the, break it's hard to put people in a box anymore. we've been through the obama years, the trump,, years pandemic lockdown. people have had a chance to really cogitate and think about these things. that's why i think that what really will determine what happens in november, is which party can drive their message in the way they want to drive, it so that when voters go to the booth, they are thinking about what the party wanted them to think, as opposed to just being left with their own impressions. on the one hand, i think president trump is a little bit of an anchor on republicans, i don't think there's gonna be a shellacking like 2010 like obama took. i don't know if democrats will hold on to congress. i think democrats have probably accentuating the positive.

they're playing good defense. >> i'll give you a preview, don't cry are gonna get shall act, based on their current trends. >> what do you mean by that? >> i think they're gonna lose the house by 20 plus seats, 20 to 30 seats. and in the current situation, for a while there it was kind of ebb and flow, i think 20 to 30 seats in the house, is safe. i think republicans will win the senate, it will be 51. i think we'll have a runoff again in georgia, probably, i think herschel walker will come out on top there. i think republicans control the senate. and, david to your point, it's about voter enthusiasm. it's not about the messaging, it's who's gonna show up on election day, earlier in the network i saw bernie sanders say, i mean you gotta get people fired up, because the democratic base just isn't excited. >> that's not, true poll after poll -- >> maybe bernie sanders is wrong. >> let me just say this, bernie sanders has been wrong, before but i like that he's going out there and making sure that people understand how important this election, is i think you're wrong, i think that democrats have a very good

chance of keeping the senate. >> would you think in the house, where did they go? >> i think if we lose the house will be 10 to 15. >> there's a lot of time still from now to election day, and it can happen. but right now, here's what we're seeing. all these national polls, i don't think they're measuring the phenomenal, incredible mobilization and energy that you see everywhere, most everywhere on this issue of abortion. >> so let's talk about it. in georgia those record numbers. >> go back to, conversation part of early voting is to gauge the enthusiasm gap. but on this point -- >> who votes early? >> i want to address, it people who want to have their vote counted. >> historically it's been democrats. >> my point, is i wonder, with a ticket splitting, and the idea that there is no more pigeonholing, and the idea of how you think about projecting your trajectory, those that factor into either of your points here? the idea that, if there's not to be the straight party to get any longer, how do you anticipate --

>> he had no, i think that's, right i actually think that more republicans are going to do ticket splitting than democrats. he doesn't mean the democrats won't, but i think in fact if we take your panel, there were two republicans who said they won't vote for the republican candidate. >> and frankly, across the, board what you see in terms of the extremism, it mostly exists on the republican side. so i think in terms of trying to gauge what's gonna happen, what democrats are looking at is not just these polls, they're looking at it enthusiasm on the ground. i've talked to many, campaigns both congressional campaigns as well as senate campaigns, and they're saying that their enthusiasm is off the charts. >> i'm not seen in pennsylvania, and other places, listen ticket splitting i do believe that's

gonna occur, i believe josh perot's gonna win is governor of pennsylvania and meta mehmet oz will be the senator. i believe in arizona, kari lake will be, governor mark kelly will be senator. i believe there will be these races that you look out and say that's very curious, i wouldn't of pick that millions, years in certain instances because candidates to matter. mark kelly, a lot of arizona's think he's a moderate guy, but he hasn't made the case. blake masters as made the case kari lake, on the other hand, you'd say by all accounts is pretty far out there. but i think she still wins. so these candidates matter, brian kemp's gonna win by big matter in georgia. maybe it's got enough to carry herschel across the finish line. i do think you'll see ticket splitting in certain cases. candidates do matter. we are the young woman for college, say listen i wish i could vote republican it, but i can't. >> if only we had a magic eight ball to shake. >> it's called election day. , everyone stick around for gonna talk more about, this it's frankly an obvious thing chenin to say that no one likes making mistakes, and maybe dave, it who just has a lot of predictions i wonder if he has

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so here's the question for you, do you consider yourself a perfectionist? if so, alisyn, you may want to lower your standards. because according to a new piece in the washington post, the persistent push to be flawless, can lead to negative effects on your mental health, including low self-worth, anxiety, depression, and even suicideality, to counter this pursuit of perfection some experts are saying, here's a healthy alternative, it's called excellence-ism, back

again with maria cardona, -- >> that needs a new word. >> alisyn, correct me. i'm -- >> so glad for getting this opportunity. that's true, you haven't been, perfect 66% of republicans do not believe that republicans -- >> you're embracing excellence -ism. >> let me tell you something, i've never been burdened by perfectionism at all. or excellence-ism, i go by my own credo, it's called good enough-ism. honestly, it works like a charm, he just had to be good enough. show enough, and be good enough. i'm sometimes invited to speak to women's groups about how to balance motherhood, and work life. and women talk about this thing called mommy guilt, they feel so bad if they aren't perfect for the kids, i'm like are you

giving them three square meals a day? they have a roof over their head? do you love them? we are good. it's got enough. >> i didn't hear anything and hear about social media. because i think that drives a lot of this, a lot of insecurity, and teens. >> instagram -- >> especially for young people. >> but they see the lives they don't, have. you see fabulous, cars fabulous boats, people taken a jet, here i've got this great vacation, my kids -- >> it's all a mirage anyway. >> i don't subscribe to get good enough philosophy. >> i do like excellence-ism, i don't like the word, but i do think there's a certain amount of luxury and been able to be less than perfect. but not everyone gets. i think the standards can be very high, but i'll say that i think my competition is me yesterday, but i do get myself more grace as a mom, especially in the pandemic as was 24/7, on the attached. but i do think that there's

something to having standards to yourself to pursuing excellence. >> i grew, that -- but i do think is then we are always striving for perfection. >> i completely agree with, you except for when i do a lot of speeches to young latinas, for example, i do tell them to be better than the person that they're competing against. and that's not just themselves, because they are competing against white men, sorry. and they have to be better, not just better than them a little bit better, that's we twice as good. >> and it is that too much stress for their mental health? >> it might be, but it depends, it depends on the person, it depends how driven they are. that's how i grew up, that's how i got through school, that's how i got through ended my political career, and had the privilege of being here at this table with you, all because i always feel like have to be incredibly prepared. but, to your point about being a mom, when i had children, i did say to myself, okay, i

can't do everything and be everything at the same time, i had, have a wonderful husband, he helped me and i could've done it without him. but i also said to, myself i'm going to sleep and they sleep, i don't care of the house is messy, because i can't get their sick. >> i don't think there's anything wrong trying to be a better version of yourself. everyone's improved, but i do believe you're bombarded by the media, nonstop 24/7 with messages that say, you're not good enough, enough it, enough you're skin's not -- >> where you're looking at right at me david? >> i'm just looking at the monitor, my hair is not, shiny but you're bombarded nonstop. whether it's print, that's on social media. i think that leads to a lot of insecurities in people. >> i was gonna say, i like the way you put, that you're competing against yourself yesterday. i think this concept of

excellence-ism i makes sense, but also think it's a little bit of a re-brand. you said got an office, i'm okay with them. don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. quite quitting is today's version of phoning it in. >> by the way, we do actually practice this with their kids, how many times do you say to your kids, just do your best. you're not time, i guess there are parents who say, you've got to be the best round. >> -- i told them to be their best. >> they know, just try to do your best, because really that's all you can ask from people. >> because as a prosecutor, i remember is always a factor of the government, the prosecutors in particular are expected to be perfect, there is never the time of the resources to be. at the same token, though i do see the benefits in terms of mental health, it's all the individual person. if you feel as though you are

striving for someone's definition of perfect, you're in a world of trouble. >> zero defects in the workplace near life, just not sustainable. we learned that in the pandemic, if not if nothing else. >> when do you think about all this? are you a perfectionist? has the drive for correction ever enchanted your life, let us know what you say. that and anything else you'd like to say to us about we're talking about tonight. tweet us at @alisyncamerota and @thelauracoates yenne >> i'll go by that soon.

for months republican governor

phil scott was asked to debate last night what he does to lower his carbon footprint. as you will hear, he is really embracing this. >> please name one individual action you have taken to lower your own carbon footprint, governor scott. >> well whether it's the electrical vehicle, for state security driving around, but also i live that, i recycle, i have solar panels, i do everything we can, we keep our heat down to 58. we do everything. >> 58. >> that is going beyond above and beyond the call of environmental consciousness. >> it has been a constant battle, i hit 74 degrees is right. >> and he was like woman, it is 67, and go get a sweater. i'm like it's 74 degrees -- 67 is chilly, can you see your breath indoors? >> that's in minnesota, by the way. and i'm like i wasn't done. that's the age-old marital debate.

the husband always wants the room -- colder the wife always wants it warmer. i like a good 72, but i'm willing to settle for 71. but can you imagine having a 58 degrees? >> but he loses truth, but the hot flashes are real, so maybe would help me but you know what the solar panels you mentioned, the point i think he's making is every little thing will help, and it's hard when your parents look at your kids and not try to take actions to do something that will impact their lives. >> i know he's leaning in, i think that his policies have reflected that as well, i know that he didn't vote for some big environmental thing recently, that's because he said they weren't giving him the cost of it. but i think he's walking the walk, particularly if he's making his family live with 58 degrees. >> we couldn't be married. i didn't ask. so that's fine. >> but also, polls suggesting the republicans are actually

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