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kevin spacey. a new york jury found him not liable for battery in a tribal. it was civil. spacey was accused by an actor of briefly laying on top of him more than 30 years ago. jurors deliberated for an hour. they concluded he did not act inappropriately when he touched him as a teenager. spacey's career has been on hold now for years because of all of this. now these victories. but spacey faces four charges of sexual assault in england, and they are very serious, and there is a much higher bar there for victory. he has pleaded not guilty in those. thank you so much for joining us. don't forget, you can watch "outfront" any time. you just have to go to cnn go. meanwhile, now, it is i'm for "ac 360." good evening. thank you so much for joining
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us. we are learning the names of some of the top republicans who have testified in multiple investigations involving the former president both in the federal case involving the misuse of classified documents and also the investigation in georgia into the former president's attempt to overturn the election results there. cnn's sara murray joins us now with details. let's start with the fulton county, georgia investigation. who is testifying? >> well, anderson, we have learned that there are two prominent witnesses who have testified before fulton county grand jury. one of them is former georgia senator kelly loeffler. the other is former white house lawyer pat cipollone. both of these are big gets for the district attorney down in georgia, fawnee willis. it gives you an idea how long-ranging her investigation. >> what news to the federal grand jury investigating the documents at mar-a-lago? >> we are learning this evening, that kash patel, a top adviser to former president donald trump has appeared before a federal grand jury who is investigating the mar-a-lago documents, the
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mishandling of sensitive documents there. and what we don't know is whether kash patel actually answered questions before the grand jury, or whether he invoked his 50 amendment right against self-incrimination. this is an important person. he has been deeply involved in this mar-a-lago documents dispute. >> sara murray, thanks. appreciate it. i want to talk to elie honig. he joins me now. elie, the testimony from pat cipollone and leffler, how significant could it be in the fulton county, georgia investigation? again, we don't know what they actually said, because cipollone obviously in other testimony has been very reluctant or concerned obviously about attorney/client privilege or executive privilege. >> that's exactly right, anderson. first of all, any time you have a former u.s. senator and a former white house council testifying in front of a criminal grand jury in a case focused on the former president, that is automatically a big
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deal. and i think cipollone is really the point of interest here. we do have some sense of what cipollone likely testified about, because as you said, he testified already in front of the january 6th committee. however, as you also noted, there were certain key questions that cipollone refused to answer under executive privilege. he would not talk about his one-on-one conversations with donald trump. and so to me, the big question is did the d.a. somehow manage to get that information out of pat cipollone? did they compel him legally? did they work out some sort of agreement with him? if not then he likely testified to the same thing we've already heard. if so, that could be a real breakthrough investigatively. >> now that they can question lindsey graham about certain topics, can graham just plead the fifth or can graham just not talk about some stuff that he doesn't want to talk about? >> he certainly has the right the plead the fifth. anyone has that right that would look horrible for lindsey graham. i suspect he would be reluctant do to do that. lindsey graham was dealt a legal setback today.
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he cannot dodge this subpoena. he droes have to testify. graham argued he was immune under the speech and debate clause which says sitting members of congress can't be forced to answer questions outside of congress. however, the court today said most of what senator graham was doing was not legislative, coordinating with the trump campaign, making public statements, dealing with georgia state legislators to try to pressure them. all of that is fair ground, and l lindsey graham will have to answer questions about those topics. >> so what does it tell you about the fulton county's d.a.'s investigation. what we know about it so far, do you have a sense so far of how quickly it's moving? >> this thing has gone from zero to 60 in a snap, anderson. let's remember, the d.a. didn't even get a grand jury seated for about a year and a half until this past summer that is an awful long time to wait goat a grand jury seated. but since then, the d.a. has been moving at an incredibly rapid case. we see her firing off subpoenas to powerful people, lindsey
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graham, pat cipollone to name a few, and fighting in court and prevailing. this investigation to me seems to be moving the most quickly of all the pending investigations. i don't think we won't see any major indictments between now and the midterms. but i would look for indictments to start dropping in december, january into february. >> simply, obviously we don't know what trump adviser kash patel said before the grand jury in the mar-a-lago probe. the fact that he showed up, does that tell us anything? >> well, it tells us first of all that doj is putting people in the grand jury and is compelling their testimony. and that's testimony under oath that is deadly serious. it's a crime to lie to a grand jury. i think the areas of focus with kash patel, first of all, he has loudly and publicly claimed that donald trump declassified some of those documents. okay. you can say it publicly. you can say it on tv. but you have to say it in a grand jury now. so it will be interesting if we find out was kash patel pressed on that? did he stand by that claim?
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and did he have any proof to back it up? it's worth keeping in mind kash patel is a hard-core trump loyalist. but it's one thing to say things out in public. it's another to say things under oath with a grand jury there. >> elie honig, appreciate it. thank you. president biden appeared in pennsylvania alongside the candidates for senate there john fetterman. it's a pretty rare sight this election cycle to see the president on the campaign trail with a candidate in a tight race. he was there promoting his plans to boost american infrastructure. the visit comes as a new poll from monmouth suggests that republicans may have an advantage in the midterms that are now just 19 days away. on the question of which party should control congress, democrats enjoyed a seven-point lead in august, 50% to republicans' 43%. now in october, republicans lead the lead, 49% to democrats' 45%. we should note poll numbers -- the poll, all adults are not registered voters. also, they're well within the poll's margin of error in what has been a very volatile midterm season so far. just before air time, i spoke
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with president biden's chief of staff ron klain about the strategy going to midterms. >> thanks for joining us tonight. according to that new monmouth poll, compared the a couple of weeks ago, why do you think that is? >> look, anderson, i'm covered by the hatch act. i have to be careful about what i say about electoral politics here at the white house. what i think is there are a lot of polls. what they show as a whole is a very, very close midterm election. and that's the way you'd expect it to be when the politics are very close, the elections very hard fought. my focus isn't so much on the polls but on us continuing to do our job deliver fog interest american people, doing things that are at the top of people's agenda, like the president's announcement yesterday to try to bring down the price of gasoline further by releasing more oil from the strategic petroleum reserve, setting a minimum price to rebuild the reserve. those kinds of things are going to really help families with their everyday expenses. you heard the president talking about infrastructure today in
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pennsylvania, bringing down the cost to getting goods to market. so we're doing our jobs here at the white house. and i think that's what the american people want to see us doing. >> but when people say -- when poll after poll shows this, you may not like the polls, but say on the economy or inflation, when that's their top issue, they prefer republicans by double-digits. there is three weeks to go. is there anything you're hoping to do to try to make that up? . >> well, first of all, again, i think the polls do show a very, very close midterm election as a whole. i think on inflation, prices are high. and the president is working to bring them down. inflation is a global problem. actually, inflation is lower in america than it is in most european countries. but that's not good enough. we need to bring prices down. that's why the president is working so hard to bring down the price of gasoline at the pump. it's fallen this week in 13 states. it's fallen more than 10 cents. but we need to do more. that's why he made his announcement yesterday. we need to bring down the -- >> let me ask you about the
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announcement yesterday. over the summer, the price came down a lot, as you've talked about. it's gone up more recently, now releasing 15 million barrels of oil from the strategic petroleum reserve. it is a relatively small amount compared to previous releases from the reserve. is that really going to have an impact on gas prices? >> well, i think it will. look, first of all, you've already seen the price of gas drop this week. and again, it continues to go down. i think the release from the reserve was part of the announcement. the other announcement was a decision to rebuild the reserve next year at a guaranteed minimum price. that's going to increase confidence and production from the oil industry, and also the president talked about the fact that the price of oil has been coming down. but the price of gas hasn't come down as fast. and the industry needs to make sure they're not taking extra profits here as oil comes down, they need to bring down the price of oil too -- the price of gas too. but that's just one of our initiatives to combat inflation. and the last thing i'll say on
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this, anderson, is look, this upcoming midterm election, it is not a referendum. it is a choice. and you have the democratic -- the democrats in congress, the democrats here at the white house working to bring down inflation, bring down these costs. the republicans have said the if they get control of the congress, what they're going to do is repeal the president's plan to let medicare negotiate for the price of prescription drugs. what will that do to everyday costs? they're going to repeal the effort to the president's plan that put taxes on big corporations for the first time, minimum 15% taxes. they're going to repeal that. that will blow up the deficit that will add to inflation. i think what people need to look at is the choice between what the president, what congressional democrats have done, are doing, and what republicans are talking about. >> yeah. it just seems like people, whether they've looked at it or not, that message is not resonating with enough of them for the democrats' concern. normally a president might be
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out holding big campaign rallies. according to "the new york times," i think president trump held 26 rallies in october of 2018. former president obama held 16 rallies in october of 2010. clearly, a lot of candidates, democratic candidates in close contests don't seem to want the president campaigning for them with big rallies. >> yeah, you know, anderson, and both president obama -- i was here. i'll share responsibility for it -- and president trump got walloped in the midterms. i don't think it's a surprise to anyone that we're not using the strategy that failed in 2010 and the strategy that failed in twain. ins 2018. instead you're seeing the president travel with elected officials, democratic candidates like he was in pennsylvania today with john fetterman, our candidate for senate there. and he is talking about the issues that really impact people. infrastructure, costs, choice, a long line of issues that he's talking about. so i don't think rallies have
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proved effective for candidates in the midterms. so we're trying something different that we think will be effective. >> ron klain, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. still to come tonight, new reporting on one of the state troopers under investigation after the school shooting in uvalde, texas, where 21 people were murdered, 19 of them children. also tonight, cnn's drew griffin on the effects of a still raging debate from 2020. a person who looks at a georgia county official's posting about qanon and election conspiracies online. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ with fidelity income planning, a dedicated advisor can help you grow and protect your wealth.
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we want to bring you exclusive new reporting from shimon prokupecz who has been inves reporting in the uvalde and the botched police response. it took place may 24th and is one of the deadliest school shootings in u.s. history. two weeks ago shimon brought us the story of a texas state trooper, one of the first to arrive at the scene of the
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shooting who was under investigation for her actions or lack of acts that day. she had quit her job as a trooper, and was rehired as a school police officer in uvalde. many parents were stunned to learn that someone under investigation for her response the day of the shooting would be hired to protect the very same school district that officer has since been fired. tonight shimon has new reporting about the actions of another state police officer under investigation, and shimon joins us now. so what have you learned? >> anderson, so new information coming from newly obtained video and audio that has never before been seen, which now points a picture of a texas dps captain who ordered the tactical team that was ready to breach that classroom, get inside that classroom, to stand by. this despite the fact that there was a 911 call from a child inside that classroom saying they needed help. thankfully, that tac team went in any way and did not hear those transmissions, and now of
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course this is all raising questions about the role of this dps captain and dps in general that day. >> reporter: amid the chaos at robb elementary in uvalde, texas, where nearly 400 law enforcement responded to a deadly school shooting last may, cnn has learned commands by a high-ranking state police officer may have contributed to the broader failed response that day. while a gunman sat in a room full of dead, dying and traumatized children, new police radio transmissions obtained by cnn show texas department of public safety captain joe b bettencourt giving an order to stop police from entering the classroom. and one internal memo describes him before he arrives telling officers to stay away i from the school and remain on the perimeter during the initial response to the shooting. captain bettencourt was one of 91 dps officers on scene in uvalde. we're now learning he is one of
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the seven referred for further investigation over his actions. after lyonizing the police response in the initial days, the texas governor and state officials have pushed the blame for what has since been acknowledged as a failure on the local and school police. but cnn has now reviewed memos written just two days after the shooting that detail actions by the dps that allegedly went against protocol for mass shootings. one lieutenant wrote "i heard someone shout out captain bettencourt said all dps personnel need to be on perimeter, do not enter the building." and a sergeant recorded he knew this was clearly against established training, and so he entered the school any way. by the time bettencourt says he arrived outside rob elementary, students and teachers had already been trapped for more than an hour.
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>> nine children. >> reporter: some at the scene like this border patrol medic are aware of the urgency inside the classroom. >> no, we hadn't heard that. no, we're in the forces. >> anybody hurt? >> no, not here. >> here? >> yes. >> ems in there already? >> no, sir. the shooter in there. >> he's in here. >> he's in here. >> the last contact we had was one of our school pd officers, his wife is a teacher. she called him to say she was dying. >> had him in room 12. multiple victims in room 12. >> reporter: a border patrol tactical unit is preparing to end the standoff and storm the classroom. >> units making breach. >> reporter: in a move that sources tell cnn has shocked people inside dps, betancourt picked up his radio and tried to stop the breach. >> hey, this is captain
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betancourt, peunits making brea, stand by. >> reporter: it can be clearly heard in several body-worn cameras. the tactical unit was already making entry. >> subject down, subject down. >> kids, kids, kids! >> reporter: the shooter is killed and a devastating scene is revealed inside the classroom. in an interview with investigators that has been detailed to cnn, betancourt said he did not know there were any children in the building until after the breach. that's despite 911 calls from children inside the room. betancourt says he was relying on information from uvalde sheriff ruben velasco that the gunman was a barricaded subject and no longer an active shooter, and that a better s.w.a.t. team was on its way. he admits he never spoke to school police chief pete arredondo who had been labels the onscene commander until after the shooter was killed.
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the memo reverends bettancourt's actions are some of the clearest evidence questions are being raised internally at the department of public safety about the actions of its officers. his orders over the radio contradict the official narrative that the state police were never in command of the scene and never issued substantive orders. when questioned by cnn in september, dps director colonel steve mccraw confirmed the investigation into betancourt and promised to resign if his agency was shown to have culpability for the botched response. >> was there body cam? there is apparently footage of him inside the hallway telling people not to breach that door. have you heard that? >> you know, i've heard a lot of things, okay. >> is there any credibility to that? >> i don't know whether there is or not. that's one of the reasons we're doing the investigation. >> i know. >> and wither going to be thorough. >> i'll be the first to resign, okay. i'll gladly realign, i'll take
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my resignation to the governor if i think there is any culpability with the department, period. we're going to hold our officers accountable. no one gets a pass. but every officer is going to be held accountable. >> reporter: but you are looking at this captain betancourt for information for information that he may have told officers not to breach. >> how is betancourt responding? >> he hasn't. this is something we've been working on for quite some time. we had heard information from sources inside dps who were really alarmed and concerned over the fact that betancourt would give this order over the radio without having a full account of what happened. >> just be clear, he was giving an order to the tactical team which was finally assembled to move in. this is after 70 -- >> at the 77-minute mark. >> so he was telling that team, which had finally assembled which are the ones who finally stopped this. >> that's right. he claims he didn't know that that was the team that this was
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this bore tac team. he was concerned they weren't experienced enough. and that is why he has also said that one of the things that went into his thinking, he was told this was a barricaded subject. at no time did he hear this was an active shooter. however, there are those 911 calls from a kid, a child inside that classroom that is clearly heard on police radio. it's being broadcast saying that there are kids inside the room. why he didn't hear this, why this information was not relayed to other dps officials, it's certainly raising a lot of concerns. >> the lack of just communication and disorganization is incredible in this. you have this captain giving orders. he says the sheriff was in charge. former department of safety head says arredondo was in charge. is it clear who was actually in charge? >> i think the picture is being painted that it's not exactly clear who was in charge. one of the things that has been so striking to me in gathering some of this information and talking to sources is that no one actually it seems from the dps or any high level official went in to talk to pete
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arredondo, the former school police chief in the hallway to find out what he was dealing with, to find out other information. he was communicating with people, but no one it seems from the dps, which is these highly trained officials, law enforcement officers who have all kinds of weaponry, who have the skills and have the equipment to go in and are supposed to go right in, it seems that somehow that information was never relayed to them. >> just point out the standard training for police departments around the country is whoever is there, whoever is on scene, assemble and go in and just neutralize the shooter. that is the basic 101 of active shooter training. >> and the argument is being made that while people thought this was -- they keep saying they thought this was a barricaded subject. okay. maybe at first. but how could they think that when there are 911 calls from these children inside the classroom? and how that information never made its way through the chain of command, and why no one took the lead on this, it's still
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very much unclear. >> we saw you speaking with colonel steven mcgraw, the texas department of public safety. he told you he would resign the department was proved to be culpable or found to be culpable. betancourt is part of dps. has mcgraw had anything to say? >> no, he has not. but thursday there is a public safety commission hearing. and on the agenda is uvalde. what he will say and exactly what details he will give. but that will be the next step. to hear from him on the latest perhaps on this investigation. but, again, of course all of this is raising even more questions about the law enforcement response that day. >> it's incredible. shimon prokupecz, really appreciate it. thank you so much. one more note on uvalde tonight. lexy rubio was a student at the school. she was 10 years old when she was murdered that day. her mom kimberly reached out to us because she wanted us to know and you to know that today was lexy's birthday. she would have, should have turned 11 today. our thoughts are with her and
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her family and all those in uvalde still waiting for answers and justice. coming up, a county elections chair in georgia say he is and his team hang their political hats a the door and do the people's work. when you look at his social media postings, it's a different story that story is next. [school bells] when pain says, “i'm here,” i say, “so are they.” ♪ aleve - who do you take it for? before... & bath fitter. before.. & bath fitter. if you have a "before" bath, now's the time to call bath fitter to get a beautiful "after." with our unique tub over tub process, there's no mess or stress. spend smart on a beautiful new bath done right, backed by a lifetime warranty.
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of voter intimidation to the department of justice and the arizona attorney general's office. according to a state official, a person leaving their ballot in an early voting drop-off box in mesa this week said they were approached and followed by a group of individuals. a county official warns that this is an escalation from initial reports of people taking videos of people dropping off their ballots. meanwhile, in harris county, texas, with less than a week to early voting, the secretary of state's office says they'll have inspectors performing, quote, randomized checks on election records and observing the, quote, handling and counting of ballots and electronic media. that's the most populous county, home to houston and democratic-leaning electorate. they also told harris county election officials they'll, quote, dispatch a task force to immediately respond to any legal issues identified by the secretary of state, inspectors, poll watcher, or voters. now we want to take you to georgia as part of our continued look at potential threats to democracy and the vote. here is cnn's drew griffin.
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>> reporter: in meetings, the chair of the spalding county, georgia election board sounds like any other government official. >> we hang our political hats at door when we come in and do the people's work. there ain't any room for politics in elections. >> reporter: but county elections chairman ben johnson's actions online tell a far different story. johnson is beyond partisan, a staunch election denier. on social media, he posted to fellow insurrectionists, and hi posted biden is an illegitimate president. >> i think the whole structure in spalding county is an insider threat. >> reporter: last march he wrote going to do anything about the 2020 election? the flow of data from the counties should not pass through a foreign country. >> which is one of the key fictitious complaints about dominion voting. so he believes in this disproven theory. >> yet he is now running the elections of spalding county, which also affect the entire
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state. it's a scary situation. >> reporter: he has posted about qanon more than a dozen times, including this supportive tweet. "hate to say it, but a hell of the lot of information dropped by q has turned out to be accurate. red, white and q" he writes and other nonsensical codes. keep in mind as chair of the election board, johnson is in charge of the county's certification of election results. dexter wimbish, a democrat who sits on the board with johnson says johnson always acts professionally, but -- >> the community has concerns where they could potentially impact the outcome of an election. >> reporter: now cnn has learned the fulton county district attorney intends to subpoena ben johnson and two other spalding county elections officials as part of the investigation into efforts by donald trump and his allies to overturn georgia's 2020 presidential election. >> there is a concerted effort to suppress the vote of people
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in this country. there is an effort to make people believe that the government does not believe in democracy. and that's just not -- that's not true. >> reporter: election deniers who are in charge of elections across the country are a concern to pro-democracy groups nationwide. in one nevada county, the new interim clerk in charge of elections was one of six so-called fake electors in nevada. in michigan, according to police, the clerk of lake township believes the 2020 elect was fraudulent and shared voting machine materials with someone allegedly involved in the breach of those machines. in colorado, the sitting clerk of elbert county spreads debunked conspiracies that voting machines contain hackable wireless devices. >> how am i supposed to know if anybody has used that wireless device to access our system? >> the danger is that these are people who may lie about election results, who are certainly likely to cast doubt
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about the trustworthiness of elections. >> reporter: as for ben johnson and what he has to say about all this, in a word, nothing. he's refused to answer questions. in an email, accused cnn of being on a witch hunt. but we went to his spalding county offices. we were told on the phone that he was in a meeting. but when we tried talking to him. >> hey, is ben johnson in? >> he is not. >> are you sure? >> reporter: spalding county,up the leadership of an election denier. >> the georgia state's office believes someone is already trying to discredit this election. in what way? >> it's breaking down here, and it's happening in spalding county. yesterday they found a fake ballot somehow slipped in among the 1520 actual cast ballots at the county's only early voting site. sources tell me it was such a fake that it seems to investigators the intent was for this fake ballot to be found and somehow used to discredit the electoral process. it's launched yet another
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investigation in this same county whose elections are led by an election denier who denies he has anything to do with this, and on twitter stated "every vote should count." anderson? >> drew griffin, thank you so much. up next, the surprise resignation of 10 downing street. prime minister liz truss leaving office after a very short time. a look at why and what chemicals next.
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vote yes on 31. a lot of political upheaval in the united kingdom. liz truss has resigned as the british prime minister after only six weeks. and with britain facing deep economic turmoil, joining us cnn national anchor christiane amanpour and cnn editor at large richard quest. christiane, what happened to the prime minister? >> well, basically, a huge disaster of her own making. everybody here says including her own party, that this was a self-inflicted wound that started with a party of two, her and her chancellorer back on that september where they just delivered this mini budget that
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was so out there with no road testing, with no rules of the road, none of the fiscal capability was in place. and sure enough, it just created mayhem and chaos in the markets and in this country. and ever since she has been trying to right the ship, but eventually it was clear that the uproar here, especially amongst her own party, was too much. just untenable. and today she had to leave. >> richard, we saw the complete u-turn on fiscal policy from liz truss. as christiane was saying, it was a self-inflicted wound. can you just walk us through the effect her economic policy had on markets. >> she went on a massive spree of cutting taxes, arguably spending a fortune on things like energy relief for the whole country. but she never told anybody how she was going to pay for it. and at a time when the country is in recession and will probably stay there for some
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time, the markets basically said you have a 60, $70 billion pound, $80 billion hole in your books. how you going to pay for it? when they didn't come up with the other side of the equation, the market took it out on the pound, which fell to extraordinary lows, just about parity with the u.s. dollar. and they took it out on government borrowing by raising the cost of uk government borrowing. and you know, anderson, when all is said and done, when the new prime minister is in place, when everybody has forgotten about it, that higher cost of borrowing will still be costing the uk taxpayer and still be costing higher mortgages in britain for years. >> christiane, who are some of the front-runners who replace truss? >> well, of course the name rishi sunak comes up again. of course, he was the chancellor previously. he is the one who essentially launched the downfall of boris johnson. we also hear that it could be anybody from the woman called
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penny mordaunt, the head of the house of commons, ben wallace, and guess what? some people are even suggesting that boris johnson could throw his hat back in the ring. despite the fact that apparently the in-house touring party rules for leadership prevent anybody who has resigned from actually being able to run again. and he is just surrounded by, you know, the whole accusations of sleaze, of party gate, of all of that. nothing there has changed at all. >> richard, the energy prices keep going up in the uk. things like meat, bread, milk, eggs are skyrocketing with inflation. as you said, that's going to continue, right? >> absolutely. the latest numbers on inflation came this week. 10.1% and will probably rise higher. and as a result of what liz truss's government did, by just flooding potentially money, getting rid of any form of
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fiscal prudence. so inflation is likely to be higher too for longer. a and the bank of england pulling in the opposite direction will have to raise rates even higher. as economic -- look, i've been overing economics for some time. as economic policies go, i cannot ever imagine a more dreadful disastrous calamitous set of events that all came to a head within two weeks and exploded so spectacularly. >> but christiane, if that's the case, i don't understand. what were they thinking? what did -- >> clearly, anderson, they weren't thinking. they were thinking with hubris. and really in a very close quarters. it was just her and the chancellor, by and large, who came up with this and just landed it on the people without, as i say, going through any kind of safety net. and, you know, richard has been covering business for a long time. i've been covering people for a long time. and it is a disaster for the people of this country.
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the idea of mortgages. in the united states, you have these fixed rates for a long time, 15, 30 years. here you go. it's variable often. and it's really difficult. people are panicking now. we've got a major problem for the people here. it's terrible for the people. >> i didn't know that. that in the uk you don't have a 30-year mortgage? that's not common? >> no, no, nope. >> and richard, it will be king charles who welcomes the new prime minister, whoever it is. >> it's his first prime minister, his late mother had more than a dozen. we will look back on this. i mean, bearing in mind liz truss was the last political act, or the last official major act that her majesty the queen did, appointing her. and then she died a couple of days later. it's extraordinary. you couldn't write this, anderson. you couldn't write it. >> richard quest, christiane amanpour, thank you so much. >> thanks, anderson. still ahead, intense
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the pentagon today doubled down on the claim that iran is helping russia's war efforts, according to the pentagon press secretary, iranians have been on the ground assisting russian forces with drone operation, saying iran is complicit in terms of exporting terror. both iran and russia deny the claims. meanwhile, ukraine says russia has damaged as much as 40% of their power infrastructure. ukraine's state energy supplier today say they have been perez fred flighpleitgen is on the gr with the latest. fred, the fighting where you are
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in eastern ukraine continues to be bad. what are you seeing? >> there's a lot of heavy fighting, especially in the area we are. in fact, on the the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy said this is the main focal point where the russians are trying to advance. and we've seen that over the past couple of days here. we were in bakhmut ourselves and we came under fire by russian ar tilly. the ukrainian forces on the ground say they face that every single day several times a day with the russian forces trying to move forward. and these are mostly forces, anderson, from the wagner private millioitary company. these are people who are very battle hardened. it's a difficult situation for the ukrainians, but they do say they want to hold on to every inch of territory. >> what about the forced evacuations by russia, thousands of residents in the kherson region? what could that signal about the next stage of the conflict? >> that's one of the things
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where ukrainians believe these are deportations of the local populations there. they're seen as a negative light and see it as something that's very, very dangerous to the situation down there. the ukrainians have been advanced around the kherson area, but they're pretty far away from the city of kherson. ukraine's president, volodymyr zelenskyy, came out tonight and said the ukrainians have information that the urussians have mined a strategic dam in that area and could flood the battlefield if the ukrainians continue to advance and just get a little breathing space between their forces and the ukrainian forces. that could have extremely dangerous consequences, including taking cooler water away from the biggest nuclear power plant in all of europe and flooding villages and towns. down there right now the ukrainians are advancing, the russians are acknowledging it's a difficult situation for them. but in general for this conflict, that is really where things could get very ugly very soon. >> fred pleitgen, appreciate it. thank you.
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be careful. in iran women and men continue to risk their living showing up for antigovernment demonstrations. what we're witnessing in cell phone videos and learning about through first person accounts is extraordinary. cnn spoke to one woman who has been on the street protesting. we want to warn you some of the images you'll see are disturbing, but we think they're important for you to see. >> reporter: every day for the past five weeks a little bit of video trickles out of iran, giving us a small window in the repressive republic. a snapshot of the bravery of protesters. and the ruthlessness of regime forces. the government's internet restrictions have made it hard for us to speak to those on the front lines of this battle for change, but we got a rare opportunity to speak briefly with a 28-year-old protester. we're not identifying her for her safety.
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>> when i run to protest location, i was really scared and i was worried, what am i doing here? here is the war zone. and i was so scared. i realized that even to make a change, i should start with myself. >> that defiance was met with shield brutality. women have been beaten up with batons and shot at. this protester's body riddled with shotgun pelts, according to rights groups. many have been dragged by their uncovered hair. and according to human rights groups in amnesty international, some sexually assaulted in plain site by the forces complaining to be the enforcers of morality. >> the people have beat them to scare people. some lady who was coming back from class and the forces hit her with a baton in her sensitive place, and she couldn't walk. >> she recounts in terrifying
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detail what she and others have witnessed first hand, security forces roaming the streets attacking people, opening fire on peaceful protesters, and chasing them into buildings. >> when we were attacked, we ran into a store. and the salesman closed and locked the door so the forces couldn't see inside. my heart was pounding, and i was shaking. my friend said, do you want to go home? i said, no. i didn't come to run away. nothing has happened to me yet, and i was able to escape. but it is possible at any moment we are now in the worse time of our life. we do everything we can despite all the stress, even if it costs our lives. >> reporter: too many lives already lost in a battle, they
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new york jury found spacey not liable in a battery claim brought by anthony wrap. wrap is best known for his role in "star trek: discovery." the judge formerly dismissed the ca case. despite this win, spacey faces other accusations in the uk. in may, spacey was charged with four counts of sexual assault against three men and one count of causing a person to engage in sexual activity. the news continues. time to hand it over to jake tapper and "cnn tonight." >> thanks anderson. really good show. >> thanks. >> yeah, it was good. good stuff, good stuff. >> thanks, i try. welcome to "cnn tonight." i'm jake tapper in washington. >> ask not for whom big ben tolls. it tolls for truss. british prime minister liz truss
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