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>> so laura, what happens when a country's leader makes a really bad unpopular decision? well, apparently that depends on the country. because british prime minister liz truss resigning today after
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only six weeks in office. her economic plan plunged britain into turmoil, and her own conservative party turned against her. >> you know, in this country the voters decide, but the candidates are nominated by the two major parties of you all know, which of course limits the leadership choices. but tonight, our dueling panels are back, taking on this very topic of how do you solve a problem like, well, unpopular leaders? >> okay, we are going to set the clock for four minutes, we are huge going to get four minutes and we are going to see which panel can come up with the spice your answers about this. >> this is not going to be like that show where a horrible ending comes at the end, right? there is no death coming? >> there is a huge bucket of slime that will fall on one of our heads if we don't deliver on the panel. >> america, which person do you think will be more upset if their hair gets messed up? all right, my panel here in washington d.c., the former official in the obama white
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house, global affairs analyst, and chief of staff for former homeland security, kyrsten nielsen. here is the thing, tell me, the idea here that we have been popular leaders, we don't have that problem here, right? everyone loves our leadership. your eyes are coming out of your head now, what is your thought? >> i worked for the most popular president in the united states, honestly most popular that has ever been -- yeah, we know about this, we know about unpopular leaders, we know it all too well. but why is this the case? why do we have unpopular leaders winning? i am going to go straight in, it is because of how hyper polarized our electorate has gotten, and both parties have tried to look in their gains, gerrymandered the heck out of the map, and now it is harder and harder for non extremists to win elections. the fringes are making decisions for 90% of america. 10% is making the decisions for 90%. the result is that the sensible
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center has been left out, and our democracy is increasingly becoming on competitive, that is a problem. >> is england the blueprint? we left it, so we know that it is not our government, but the idea of getting rid of our leaders, we tried the impeachment, it does not work. >> if it was our system, we might have more leaders than great britain has had, and they certainly have been cycling through them pretty rapidly. the problem is in all of these countries, they are cycling right back to the same old unpopular leaders. they could end up right with boris johnson all over again. and israel, they could end up with benjamin netanyahu all over again. we could end up with donald trump all over again. so, what is amazing is that they are unpopular, but that somehow does not knock them out of politics whether it is in our system, or in a parliamentary system. >> the popularity was subjective, because donald trump, for example, had millions of votes. he is not universally unpopular, but he was very unpopular. >> he was the most unpopular
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president in the history of pulling. he is the only president in the united states who has never supported by the majority of this country for a single day when he was in office. >> you know, i think there is this popularity, it is like a painful popularity i would say, like you think where it comes from, across all of these leaders, particularly i would say that it is an equivalent on the left or the right, i would just say that on the far-right in particular, you have people that are peddling fear and division, appealing to this kind of populists moment of wealth inequality, people suffering, changing economy is, factory jobs leaving, and i think that, unfortunately, it's part of this makes. i mean, i think if you had lessened a quality, you would have lessened extreme unpopular popular painful leaders. >> i wonder in jolly old england, they are very more fluid, they tend to abandon the parties more frequently than we do here in the united states of
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america, where there will be more policy and position -oriented. is that the future? we have a lot of red, blue, purple states popping up and thinking about it. is that the real way to approach this? >> look, i think right now, and i am very biased in this regard, i think right now is probably the most viable moment for third parties in american history. that is why andrew yang and i went and founded the forward party. because we see right now, the electorate, a change in the electorate. 50% of americans for the first time in u.s. history since we had polling on this say they are now political independents. they're not democrats or republicans. 20% say they are democrats, 25% republicans, and even in those, two thirds say if there was a third party there would vote for it. >> i would like to say that it is all driven by policy but i feel the last few years in american politics have reinforce that it is actually a team sport, and that it is much less about policy than we would like to think. policy is not the reason that donald trump became the leader of the republican party.
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>> look at the timing, alice and i will hand it back to you, you try to top that. >> we are worried here, because we feel like the trump impression might have given you guys the advantage, okay? so we are going to see if anyone here has an impression that they are going to bust out, like miles did, okay? set the clock pleas for four minutes. okay, -- okay, don't said it. my panel here is john miller, cnn's chief analyst, and a former federal prosecutor, oh my gosh i am running out of time, i am burning delayed. okay, we have presidents who make bad unpopular decisions, why can't we oust them? >> i would like by doing a pretty good british impression that could perhaps come to what we just heard, but you know, the systems are structurally very different. so it is not necessarily apples to apples. but there is a lot that we can compare and take from what we have seen here. you know, i think the big thing
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is, we have heard this mentioned, is this extreme entranced polarization. liz truss's undoing was that she lost the support of her party. but what we have seen here in this country is that the polarization is so entrenched that you take something like january 6th, or even those who were eyewitnesses to what took place did not demand accountability until the truth about what happened because the consequences would be too severe, as we saw with liz cheney. you see the same thing with voters. the polarization is so deep, you remember donald trump saying that he could shoot someone on fifth avenue and not lose support, his support never went below 35%. trust is was 10% this week! >> that is one of the mind-blowing things, jim. her own party. her own party decided that they did not like what -- the decision they have made, can you imagine if that happened here? >> i can't imagine it. but you think, everyone is talking about the polarization, why are we there? we are there for two reasons and two reasons alone, because a supreme court allowed too much money in politics, and because it is not a crime to use disinformation to win an election.
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if you lie, or give misleading information, a lot of different contexts, we call that fraud. but you can do it in an election and it is mast as a first amendment speech. you add that to social media, and then incredible amounts of money and politics, that is why there is -- you want an idea, let's solve those problems. >> okay, i like that. you know how we have been solving problems, john, when someone makes a decision that we do not like we have an insurrection on the capitol. that is what, recently we have decided does americans. that is how we are going to fix the political system. >> which is the one thing that we, and the rest of the world looking towards us thought could never happen here, at least since the original. so, i mean, i think if you look at the politics of it, we have seen in our generation that every president has an answer to the last. you know, if bush was an answer to clinton, and obama was an answer to bush, and trump was
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an overreaction to obama, and biden is a, could we just have somebody who like, operates like a normal politician for ten minutes while we sort this out? we are seeing that. as jim pointed out, in the background you have two factors that is really skewing our ability to get leaders, which is one, years of gerrymandering of congressional districts and elections where you have literally taken a country that is divided, and sorted those divisions out so that they are very stark. and the social media factor, which we pointed out, it is in truth, not a requirement, a constant 24/7. the conversation has become very damaged, and skewed. and if i could just say, to build on john's point, we talk about gerrymandering. it is really election rigging. that is all it is. it is not one party. the democrats did it in new york, and there were two court
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cases to overturn it. it is happening all over the country. we are turning to an election country of cheats. >> also, one last thing, we do have an impeachment process. but we never remove everyone after it. we have exhausted impeachments, but nobody gets removed. >> removal and changing leadership in the uk is very different because it is a different process. >> lickety-split. >> lickety-split. it is much different. we have seen that happen twice in the last two or three years. >> that is, it the bell signals we are done. okay, laura, thoughts? >> you guys were good, i was intrigued the entire time. i will say, i do want to see the impersonation, i have got to tell you. >> hold on, i want -- i won a contest when i was 13 years old, it is a british accent contest, i would like a spot of tea please. >> well done, well done. >> i would like to know where
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this contest was. i would like to -- >> it wasn't my summer camp. >> there is no higher accolade i feel, that was very well done. >> summer camp to cnn, i am here for it all day long. up next is a really interesting conversation we are going to have here. the question, alison, here it is. our american men in crisis? apparently more and more men and boys are struggling at school, at work, and life. is there a solution that doesn't come at the expense of women? we will ask them next. >> we'll find it. >> tech: at safelite, we take care of vehicles with the latest technology. we can replace your windshield ...and recalibrate your safety system. >> cu>>ech: don't wait.ecycled schedule today. >> singers: ♪ safelite reir, safelite replace. ♪ [sleep app ] close your eyes.
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americans frankly of all demographics. but our next guest says do not forget about the boys and the man. more and more, men and boys are struggling at school, at work, and in life. when are dropping out of the labor force in historic numbers, and they are less likely to graduate high school, and college. they are much more likely to have fewer, strong friendships today than even 30 years ago. and men account for two thirds of so-called deaths of despair, dying of suicide and drug overdoses. we are back now, and joining us to help figure all of this out, richard reeves, he is author of the new book of boys and men. why the modern mail is struggling, why it matters, and what to do about it. richard, i am really glad you are here. i want to get one thing straight, before you came on we had a british impersonation, we apologize for that. >> i think the apology will be accepted and due course, a century or two, but this is my
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impersonation of a british person, so i would rank the previous guest as maybe a seven out of ten, but this is a ten out of ten british accent. >> i am here for it. i welcome this book because i am a mother of a little boy, and i often think about, you know my son will thing say things like mommy, why so much girl power, what is that about? i think to myself, wow, in the interest of really trying to empower and embolden our young girls, which we really want to do, i often wonder as a mom, is there something leaving him behind in his young mind, not understanding the wise? >> we have this really powerful new script for girls and women now, which is a really different one from it when we had a generation ago, which is about empowerment, education, economic independence. so we have this very empowering script for girls and women, like you, i am all for that. but what is the new script for men? we have torn up the old script from an, which is traditional bread-winning and stuff, but we have not replace that with a new script. that creates a dangerous vacuum
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in our culture. we have to create space to take seriously the real problems of boys and men, which you just alluded to, and continue to focus on the remaining problems of girls and women. we can worry about two groups at the same time. i am very troubled right now that our main stream is not taking these problems of boys and men seriously enough. >> what are some of those problems? i know the idea of walking and chewing gum at the same time, but i wonder, what are the struggles? because there may be many who look at this and say, really? you had centuries of being able to be dominant by design, so why should people care, and what are those issues? >> i think, first of all, it has happened so quickly that we have seen this, the economic rise of women which we have obviously said is a great thing. what it does is that it is very hard for us to catch up with what is happening on the ground. if we look at college graduation rates for example, there is now a bigger gender gap in the percentage of women
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getting college degrees compared to men than there was a 1972. so 50 years ago, men were 13 percentage points more likely to get a college degree, now women are 15% points for women to get a degree. i think it is hard for us to catch up with that. and then as you mentioned, the men who were in the labor market, many working class women, and black men especially have been hit very hard by economic trends. most american men today earn less than most american men do in 1979. that is a very important economic fact that we need to take seriously as we think about what is happening in our culture. it leads to all kinds of other problems and health, three times higher suicide rates, and family where we see a rise and fall fearlessness, and not being able to be in touch with this children. so it has a social, and political consequences if we fail to take these problems seriously. >> i think that your book about -- just thinking about how you view this, and the notion of
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boys and men being left behind really in the pursuit of equality, it sounds like. >> it is really unfortunate confirmation. you know, i worked in the obama white house on my brother's keeper, and at the time there was a big debate of, should we be even having a program focused on black men and boys? i think that we absolutely should. that doesn't mean that it is to the exclusion of anyone else, but if you dig into the data of the biological signs of brain development, boys and girls have different levels in times of brain development, boys being a little slower as far as certain parts of the cortex that helped them in decision-making, and all of those things. so our strategies should respond to that. but to the point, i think it is a great point, this change has happened so quickly. and it has been a good response to toxic masculinity. but what does it mean? i talk about the expansion of the definition of fathers, these men who were not all my
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biological fathers who stepped in and helped keep me on track. i think that we have to figure out better solutions, mentoring programs, different supports that address these unique needs of boys and men across the demographics, while we still address girls and women. >> i wonder, can this all happened without coming at the expense of games for women? >> i think that is the great fear, we tend to see these things in politics, and at this moment of incredible dysfunction. and often, you have a long history going back decades, really, to the idea of putting those seeking better equity in our society against each other, rather than understanding, you know, where they are both affected by common crises, and where they are not. i think that is something, like you, i am the mother of a son, it is something that we all have to be invested in. and i think that part of the problem is that, to your point, richard, this toxic politics.
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let's be honest, you are coming through a number of years and our society, where we have had acting out of literally the most toxic form, a caricature of masculinity international politics what kind of message does that send to boys? talk about, you know, we used to talk about old-fashioned values, that was one party that used to say that it was in favor of that. well, when did we teach our sons to be sore losers? come on. >> i think what has happened, absent a better conversation of this, and polarization, there has been almost a celebration of an adolescent form of masculinity. an acting out as a middle finger type of masculinity, on the right specifically. >> my son went to an all-boys school, and i spoke with the head of school about this, and he said you would not imagine what it was like to be the head of an all-boys school during the trump presidency. it was a disaster for boys. >> i can imagine. this book is of boys and men, it is very fascinating. alison, i want to bring you in here as well, because it is a fascinating conversation given
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this dynamic at play, in politics, and our sociological world as well. what do you think of it? >> i think it is a very important conversation. and it is very troubling. so let's bring in our panel, we have jim, john, and catherine joining us. john, this is heartbreaking. i think it is heartbreaking to hear all of the ways in which men and boys are struggling in terms of school, in terms of the workforce, in terms of their earnings, in terms of their identity, in terms of their more susceptible to depression and substantive use. i have seen that with my own friends. my guy friends struggle more than my girlfriends, frankly. so what is going on? >> i think if you things are going on. i think richard's work on this has been brilliant, though. when you look at how many men have departed from the work for us, as compared to women, but also they departed to wear? not just unemployment, but a higher death rates, higher suicide rates, but interestingly, higher rates of addiction to things like opioids, you are seeing changes in men's place in society.
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if you take a look at the jobs of my father, or his father's father's time, there is not that many coal mines. if you take a look at the auto business, how much of an assembly line is robotic now? how many men have been displaced, as women have been entering the workforce. >> and there is fewer manual labor jobs, which obviously men fill. >> there is that, but there are other dynamics which we have to think about, which is how many men got by in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, as middle of all executives who were only vaguely confident, who were buying a beer after work at the bar, working on the golf game with the boss, who have been replaced by women executives, and managers who are just better at the job, and you know, those are the x-factors. >> yes. that raises two important questions which is basically, everyone needs a purpose. and an identity. so obviously, that is being
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challenged for men. at the same time, arm in just sort of naturally lest adaptable? cultures change. things have changed. women have had to adapt. is there something that men are not adapting to? >> i think that there are a lot of men who aren't adopting. but i think that i take a little bit of a hard hearted approach to this. i mean, to laura's point, women have been discriminated against in our society, in our world forever. and there is still a major discrepancy between women's pay, and men's pay. so, obviously on the mental health stuff, that needs to be taken seriously, and richards points on some of his proposals, they are very interesting. but when it comes to the economics, and the education, i think we should be celebrating the fact that women are making -- >> yes, but why does it have to come at the cost of men? why -- >> from the data that i read, a lot of it was men staying where they were, and women improving. and that to me sounds like
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something to be celebrated, not something to be -- >> i think a lot of this has to do with a post-industrialized economy. we are talking about these traditionally masculine, male dominated industries and manufacturing, coal mining have declined. and meanwhile, the industries that have shown among the biggest growth are traditionally pink color industries. nursing, other kinds of health care jobs, services. and for whatever reason, men have not adapted to that. these are also jobs often that require more post secondary schooling, by the way. you need a degree to become a nurse, for example. you didn't necessarily need one in decades past to work in an auto plant. so, the challenges, even though there are more men who have entered a nursing, it is still a very female dominated field because there are still very good jobs, they are very much in demand. how do you encourage a different vision of what it means to have a sufficiently
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manly job, so that there isn't sort of this aversion to positions that are increasing, that pay well, and that men don't seem to want to go into. or does it require a different kind of socialization of boys, for example, so that they have the greater emotional, and social skills that are valuable in many of these jobs of the future, but frankly of the president. a lot of it has to do with these economic forces that have changed for whatever reason, men have become more demoralize than adapting. but i don't know that i would put the blame on the mend themselves, necessarily, so much as the role models that they have, and what we are teaching boys is a strongman ideal to aspire to. >> i don't know if we are still teaching boys that, but i think obviously our culture has changed. that was traditional. so, what is the solution? if we all agree that toxic masculinity is bad, or
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uncomfortable, i don't know a lot of talk sickly masculine guys. we all can spot them in the crowd, you know, at every party there is that guy. but what are we replacing it with? i think that i read somewhere, you know, honorable masculinity. we do need to give them something. we need to give them a role, and what is the solution? >> well, i am going to have to talk to don draper about that. where do you get from where you started this in terms of pop culture? but i mean, i had covid, my nurse, my first nurse was a man. i credit him with saving my life. and he wasn't what i was expecting. i worked in the boys club, at nypd, and my last commissioner was a woman. a woman of color. which the place had some adjusting to do towards. >> did they adjust? >> sure dated. they did. i think these ships are a big learning curve.
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i think the neurological piece needs study, because we have to figure out what that really is, and richard teed it up. >> yes i think he will tell us what the solutions are. laura, what is the answer here? >> let's bring in the author of the book we are talking about. what i really thought about this topic, you and i were talking about this, but hearing all of the response that you are thinking about, it is a bit mind-blowing. richard, what is the big takeaway that you want people to best understand of your incredible book? the key thing, i want to rely on what susan said, it's not a zero sum game even though the politicians tried to pretend that it is, is that we continue to work on behalf of women and girls in many areas of society where that's true but also these troubling areas and what boys in middle really struggling with. and unless we take the problem seriously and take responsible action in the labor market, you can be sure other people will benefit from the problems boys and men have. as a culture, as parents, as school teachers, let's take
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this problem seriously, because if responsible don't address the people that irresponsible people will explain the man i think that's that's the problem. we can have a grown-up conversation of the problems are boyz ii men without a banding our commitment to women and girls. >> thank you so much for all that guys. it was thought-provoking. what you are think about the issues affecting men and boys today? that in anything else you want to say to laura and me, tweet us at alison laura coats and allison camera. >> for o over mind. that's ambitious. but the future of sanctuary, well that's downright audacious. ♪
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this controversial mural? i'm gonna put it up on the screen because this is happening in a michigan middle school. when i look at this icy satanism icy witchcraft. just kidding. that's what other parents a sophomore in high school painted this lovely mural with animals and on this nice imagery and the parents believed that she sort of put in the hidden coded messages that read to them as gay pride and bisexual signaling and satanism. >> she won an art contest, right? she didn't just go to the playground and start painting she. put it there after winning something and she says, quote, she put her artwork up there to make people feel welcome it's
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not what i am a part of her and trying to be a part of. it's believable to think of the reaction that she's got when she left a board meeting in tears because it just goes to you that but looking for an issue but. and problematic. this is an example of that i think the people are going too far, pushing this notion that our children are exposed to secret signals. >> either we're living in a crazy conspiracy oriole time or she did do something subversive and putting in some sort of easter eggs like taylor swift doesn't or jobs, or maybe she sneaked in signals, but i don't think she's become into witchcraft and satanism she was
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trying to paint this very inclusive welcoming mural, and the parents gained up on her that school meeting and left her in tears and she was quivering and so i was trying to make people feel welcome. it's gone crazy. >> i don't see the symbolism they are talking about. i'm just not seeing. it but i will say, if the school did decide to leave this is left as you can make small changes because there was no original pitch from the student they had pre-cleared, and they're gonna now change it to look at like the original peach but that does also mean that the lgbtq flags on the shirt, which people had a problem with one point, will stay as they were in the original. >> here's the panthers yesterday. get out of you have to get because it's marble on the left side there is the hamza hand which is the hand of god in some middle eastern cultures. and so they don't like that she
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put that in their. so that has to go. and then there's a mask somewhere. i couldn't find. i have study this mirror before it came on. there is a mask somewhere in there that they think means satanism or something and that has to go. but if they can't find, i'm not sure the message is not having the desired effect. >> it kind of reminds me of those odd highlights magazines with the hidden figures. i remember, i asked my kids about it, i expose them to art. listen, the gop also has been pushing a claim at that cities with progressive prosecutors have higher crime rates, alisyn, which is actually quite true not true. we will tell you what is going on with crime. next.
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>> as you know, republicans are hammering democrats on crime, claiming liberal it centuries are unsafe, and they're going everything from sanctuary cities to progressive prosecutors to cashless bail initiatives. but our friend ron brownstein has a new article in the atlantic, titled what's really going on with the crime rate. he writes about this new study from researchers at the liberal think tank the center for american progress, quote, counter in conventional wisdom this study showed that homicides over the last few years come increased left
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quickly found no meaningful differences within cities with come traditional in the trans for law larceny and robbery. that reverses another study this year from centrist democratic group third way that found the murder rate was higher in 2020 in states that voted for donald trump. back with me now to discuss, we have john miller, heiress competent, and catherine rampell. john, i thought progressive cities like san francisco in portland, oregon, we're in hotbeds of crime right now. that's not true? >> i think it is true. if you look at the places that have the most progressive district attorneys, philadelphia, chicago, los angeles, violence is off the hook in philadelphia. off the hook in chicago. but i also think that the studies are missing something. one, when you go by percentages, and we don't see the wrong numbers, you can't tell if crime was 60% higher in the city because they had ten murders that year and it went up by a small number --
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>> are you saying you reject the premise? that you do think the places with progressive leaders are more crime infested? because that other study about the red states, where donald trump won, i think we have a cdc map, of the ten states, where the crime, no, where murder is the highest are red states where there is not progressives in charge. >> i think that if you look at who did the studies and how the studies were done, they had the answer before they did this study. i think when you have to put out all -- that >> that was the cdc about the highest murder rates. >> but i think if you look at, you have places that have progressive district attorneys. new york we have five district attorneys. some are progressive, some would say less so. but 35 states implemented criminal justice reform laws that took da's who would have otherwise been not progressive and made them progressive because they were literally legislated out of entire
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categories of crimes that would have been prosecuted. so i think the studies needed to be broader. i think brownstein is writing about the studies were smarter than the studies, because he quoted people outside the studies who said much more research needs to be done in this. >> i do think the one thing that does speak to it is the difference between the narrative and what the facts support. the narrative is that these progressive policies are so overly woke that are destroying cities, but when you drill down and look at what a lot of them are saying, i don't see if most people would have a problem with that. juveniles been tried as a as adults, prosecuting police officers, trying to reduce cash bail, and cash bail specifically is a big problem is it's estimated that people in counties who deals are there because they can't afford bail. they have not yet been convicted of anything, and 43% of those people are black and so when you drill down and look at what is being proposed and
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enacted in these cities are not problems people have problems with and because crime is so multi layered was these progressive policies. it's a simple cell and it's a simple thing for voters to buy. it's easy to say someone is softer on crime. that's why you're seeing all this crime. i think it's more nuanced than. that >> i think the narrative, at least, is that things aren't being prosecuted. so there are shoplifting things, there is a homelessness problem in san francisco, neither that is a crime, but there is a feeling of lawlessness, a feeling that police have backed off or they're not getting support or things aren't being prosecuted. >> i think it probably has become a lot more difficult to be a police officer in the past couple of years, for good reasons in bad. there are some things that should be more efficient, pause before doing, like shooting an unarmed person for example. and there is probably also somewhat a chilling effect on things that would be helpful for them to engage in.
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but i think part of the issue here is that this is a lot more about perception and vibes. it is true that crime has gone up across the country. but if you look at the cities that have the highest murder rates it's not san francisco or new york, it's st. louis. a number of states in the south have, red states, they might have a democratic mayor but i would necessarily call them a bastion of bleeding heart liberalism. progressive, let's let out all the criminals kind of mindset, but there are a lot of parts of the country that i think are perceived as being more dangerous areas but that doesn't match with what the crime stats show. it's not that we want more crime in any of these places. but i think a lot of this is really about perception. it's about, to some extent, scaring the people who don't live in those places rather
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than convincing people who do. i hear from friends of mine who, i live in manhattan, i hear from friends who live in westchester who ask me, isn't it really scary to be in new york right now? well there are homeless people, but now, i'm not terrified walking around, or parts of the country i would be probably scared. >> but i think when you get right down to the numbers in 2016, 2017, 2018, new york city had the lowest crime in recorded history. we had under 300 murders in a city of 8.6 million. >> and then what changed? >> what changed was, we had a sweeping criminal justice reform that was meant to address a number of problems you brought up, which had already been solved here. we had the lowest incarceration rate. we are the lowest number of -- >> are you saying they overcorrected? >> they overcorrected in the physics of politics has always been for every action there's an equal but opposite overreaction, and now we go through a year where murders
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are up 38% and shootings are double and people are scratching your head, as academics, pretending to wonder how this happened. that's how it happened. >> laura, i know you've been listening to this conversation. >> it's fascinating. the idea here, perception being king, one of the things that creates that perception is the narrative, and people hear things over and over again, and they believe there is an iota of truth and then they run with it. they think their emotion will things the law of inertia. i wonder if the truth will do just that. really fascinating. great conversations. also time for all of you to sound off. we will read your tweets next.
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what we have from the world of twitter? let's read a few. one comes from james abbott and says if we had a vote of no confidence here in the u.s., biden would be a former president. here's >> one on democracy, quoting -- freedom is only one generation away from extinction. yes it is. here is one that disney hikes. why is that every four years when i can afford to go to disney, disney says, nope. >> here's what i like. disney, no thanks. heading to italy with the pham in december. can i go with you guys? >> i'll come with you as well. you know where to find all of us. it's not in italy it's right here and we are alisyn camerota and laura coates. thank you for watching. >> our coverage continues now. feel like... sound like... even smell like. more on that soon. ♪ ♪ the best part?
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