good evening. today the house select committee investigating the january 6th riots took the rare step of subpoenaing a former president of the united states. writing that the efforts to overturn the 2020 election was something th he, quote, personally orchestrated and oversaw. the committee is demanding he sit for a deposition under oath as well as provide documents and communications with more than a dozen allies and associates. the response from the president's legal team today was only to call the subpoena, quote, an unprecedented action. unclear what their next step

will be. what is clear is defying the subpoena by the select committee can come a consequences. just today the president's on-again, off-again close advisor often considered the architect of the president's rise was sentenced to prison for defying the very thing the president was served with today. steve bannon was sentenced to four months in prison plus a fine of $6,500 for his refusal to comply with the house select committee's subpoena. also at the same time steve bannon's sentence was being read "the washington post" had new details what was in those intelligence documents seized by fbi agents at the former president's residence in mar-a-lago. "the post" reporting there were documents describing iran's missile program as well as secrets about china. we'll speak with "the washington post" reporter who broke the story shortly. we start right now with the house subpoena for the former president's testimony. cnn's sara murray has details. so what do we know about this and the reaction from the former president? >> well, it's a pretty wind

scope in terms of subpoena, anderson. it's calling for the former president to hand over documents by november 4th and to testify november 14th. when you look for the kind of documents they're asking for they're asking not just for records of any calls trump made january 6th, but if he said get someone on the phone for me, they want records of that. they want records of any communications involving pence for a period of time. they want records of them talking about the committee or witnesses of the committee. they want any records of destruction of other materials, so it gives you an idea of just how broad the set of documents they're looking for from the former president in addition of course to that testimony. now, we have not heard directly from trump on this, but we did hear from an attorney representing him saying the committee was flouting norms by making this subpoena public but saying we'll review and analyze it and respond as appropriate to this unprecedented action. so it remains unclear what exactly that's going to mean. >> is there any reason -- i don't know what his options are. if the former president defied

the subpoena what might happen? >> look, i think it means what you mean by defies. i think we saw what happened with steve bannon today. if you decide you are just not going to even try to look through your documents, not going to engage, not going to attempt to give the committee anything, then they pursue this criminal referral and he was convicted and sentenced today. but the former president has hired these attorneys. we could see engagement behind the scenes. they could decide to take the committee to court, and frankly the committee has a limited time. they could battle this out in court, and even then it's going to be up to the justice department to decide if they would actually want to go after the former president if he decided to snub this subpoena. >> let's get perspective now from attorneys, jennifer rogers, and cnn prejudice historian tim naftali, director of the nixon presidential library. the committee lays out in great detail the actions the former

president took and as they say to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power. what stands out to you, and what is their end game realistically here? >> well, anderson i think their end game they want to say in their report that the president did not take them up on their offer to tell his side of the story. there's no expectation he's going to provide any documents, no expectation he's going to sit for testimony. if they really wanted a realistic shot at that it would have had to happen months ago. what's going to happen now the lawyers are going to say they need more time, they have privileges to assert. trump is the king of delay and this is going to be delayed for the next few weeks and then it's going to be all over. so i don't think they ever intended to get anything from him in the first place, and at this late date they certainly will not. >> the committee writes while not unprecedented the subpoena was historic. they allege the former president was at the center to overturn the peaceful transfer of power,

end quote. do you think there's anything in u.s. history that does compare to this? >> no because with the exception of john tyler who joined the confederacy we've not had a case where a former president has been alleged to have participated in an insurrection. so that alone makes this different. president trump is the fourth president to have been served a congressional subpoena. two former presidents said yes and either testified in the case of john tyler, the same john tyler or provided a deposition in the case of john quincy adams. one president said no. harry truman said no to the house on the american activity committee when he was subpoenaed in 1953, said i'm not going to do it. he saw it as the mccarthy attempt to smear his administration, he didn't do it and did not actually proceed to find him in contempt. so you have basically two kind

of of precedents. you've had some presidents who have said yes subpoenas and one who said no. >> jennifer, if the former president refuses to comply or tries to drag it out as you pointed out, what tools does the committee have to enforce the subpoena? doesn't seem like much. >> well, they don't have a lot and they certainly don't have time to use what they do have. i mean, they could go to court and seek an order forcing him to testify but there's not going to be time for that because, again, there's going to be negotiations about the timing and the scope. there's just not enough runway here for that to happen, but that would be one option. and ultimately of course they could refer to doj for failure to comply. but, again, they're not going to get the kind of black and white situation they had with steve bannon where he completely thumbed his nose at them for months and months and gave up nothing. trump is smart enough to know to negotiate a little bit and have his lawyers do so. so there's just no question what's going to happen here is the clock will run out without any sort of court action, without any sort of referral.

>> tim, what do you think the january 6th committee's investigation attempt to hold the former president accountable will have on the office of the presidency as a whole? i mean, how much is at stake with this subpoena? >> this is hugely important, anderson. president trump when he was in office tested the bounds of impeachment and stone walled every request for material. we're not in an impeachment situation right now, but once again the president sent out messages to his luanns to basically stone wall this very committee of january 6th. it was essential for the january 6th committee to go that extra mile to try to get every bit of information relevant to the investigation. and how much more relevant could donald trump's e-mails and texts be? nothing is more relevant since he's at the center of the conspiracy. they had to do this, they really

did for history and for the future of our constitution. >> senator grassly appealed his subpoena to the supreme court late today. what do you think his chances are? >> his chances are pretty much zero, anderson. when he lost in the district court there was a very reasonable opinion setting out exactly what testimony there could be and couldn't be pursuant to the debate speech clause. he lost unanimously in the 11th circuit when he appealed that ruling. now he's going to the supreme court. they will not step in here. he doesn't have a legal leg to stand on, so i anticipate he'll be testifying very soon. >> interesting. now to the new "the washington post" story we mentioned earlier about the highly sensitive intelligence the fbi seized at mar-a-lago including u.s. secrets about iran and china. joined now by the reporter who broke the story of "the washington post" devlin barrett. can you walk us through the specifics of your reporting? >> right, so obviously one of the big questions from this investigation has been, okay, so what did the fbi find at mar-a-lago?

and we now know a little more of the answers. one is at least one document about the iranian missile program, obviously an going concern of u.s. intelligence, and the other is a number of documents about u.s. intelligence gathering efforts aimed at china. and obviously the u.s.-china intelligence competition is very intense and very dangerous at times. and, you know, these are very, very sensitive documents. >> so it was about u.s. intelligence gathering efforts aimed at china, so sources and methods? >> well, that's always at risk if and when such information could get out into the wild. you know, it's still not really clear who if anyone may have decided the president may have seen this stuff. so the risk assessment is still ongoing. but what's been emphasized to us is this is some of the most closely held information in the entire government and so much so that the investigators

themselves many of them were not allowed at first to read the documents. >> do you know what level of security clearance someone would need to have access to those documents? and would they ever be permitted to be stored or viewed outside a secure facility? >> no, i mean, these documents, the most sensitive ones are sort of by definition meant to be kept in government facilities under lock and key in guarded buildings. that's the whole point. as another example we've previously reported that, you know, for a number of these documents the only people authorized to know about the programs were cabinet-level officials and the only people authorized to read anyone else in, to let anyone else know what was in these programs were cabinet-level officials. >> and i guess the top concern in the intelligence community of foreign governments if unauthorized persons were to gain access to those documents, not only is it revealing what the u.s. knows about them, but

it's also potentially revealing the sources and methods, right? >> exactly. and there's another legal factor here that's really important, anderson, and that's that when prosecutors look at mishandling classified information cases they look for aggravating factors. and one of the potential aggravating factors is how sensitive is the information that we're talking about? and in this case what the reporting today shows that in fact the information was extremely, extremely sensitive. >> you previously reported at the beginning of september that some of the documents seized during the raid involved a foreign country's military defenses including nuclear capabilities. do you know or do you have any sense if those documents are related to or even the same documents as the ones you're currently reporting on? >> we don't know that, and that's an important point. we're getting different bits of data, different descriptions of

what's within this investigation, what's at stake within this investigation, and we really don't know if that foreign military defense's intelligence is about iran or china or some other country. >> okay, good to know. fascinating, incredible reporting. devlin barrett, thanks so much, appreciate it. perspective now from andrew mccabe, former deputy director of the fbi, and senior legal and national security analyst kelly cor cordero, former counsel to the assistant u.s. attorney general. just to give a sense how serious this is, if the fbi executed a search warrant on any other private citizen's home and found national security documents this sensitive how much trouble would that person be in? >> anderson, i'm not sure in all of the mishandling cases that i was involved in and oversaw in my time in the fbi, i'm not sure that i ever saw one or came across a case in which an individual took documents that are at the level of sensitivity that we're talking about here. this is absolutely the most exquisitely sensitive

intelligence our nation has. i can tell you i had access to some of these compartments. not all classified material is equal, right? you have different levels of classification, top secret being the highest. beyond top secret you have sci, beyond that you have this code word protected material you're talking about here. i had access to some of that. when it would come to me from another agency a special courier with exasto the programs would walk it to the skiff that i worked in, i'd have to read it in front of them and hand it back. this stuff is handled with such care and there's a reason for that. there's death and risk to national security involved if it's not treated that way. >> are there any past cases that give us insight into how the department of justice might choose to proceed here? >> i think there's a whole range of potential cases we can look to.

on the one hand there's cases of former intelligence community professionals, employees, contractors who brought information home. those individuals are usually prosecuted classified information home. what is often distinguishing characteristic in those types of cases is when they gave the information to someone else, either a reporter or foreign government, and those cases are absolutely prosecuted under the espionage statutes. i think there's a different example are in the cases of high level senior officials, someone like senior director david petraeus or in the '90s the senior director deutsch. so those are the examples where individuals had classified information where they should not have had in places they had it. petraeus was notes, deutsch was information in a computer. those cases ended up being misdemeanors. in one case pled and the other case was pardoned, so a much more minor type of scenario. so there's just this wide

variety of factors that go into it including the sensitive nature of the information. as andrew is describing the transmittal or potential transmittal to an outside party. because there's this known high sensitivity, highly classified cohorted information, sensitive compartment, did it get out? and i think that will be a critical factor as the justice department continues to look at this investigation. >> andrew, given what you said about just the sensitivity of this -- and this is of all the cases you've seen these are the most highly sensitive documents you've seen allegedly mishandled or reportedly mishandled. how -- the idea or argument made early on by some of the president's supporters that he can declassify anything he

wants just by thinking about it as he said or just by saying it's declassified, these are not documents that anybody would declassify lightly or with the wave of a magic wand. >> no, it's almost unthinkable that you would actually -- or anyone would declassify information along these lines. now, we do know the president has the authority to declassify anything he chooses to declassify. again, why you would choose to declassify this is beyond me. but having that authority and executing it effectively are two totally different things. the reason you declassify documents is so that other people can treat them as no longer classified. if you don't actually communicate that act of declassification it doesn't have any effect. people don't know you declassify them so they still handle them as classified. so this idea that he could just think it and make it so is just simply fiction. >> yeah. it's really extraordinary. carrie cordero, thanks so much. andrew mccabe as well.

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>> reporter: in the suburb normal life has started to return. but the scars of russia's five-week occupation remain. she hasn't seen her son dima, the 23-year-old engineer, since russian soldiers took him from their family home seven months ago with no explanation. they took him from our front yard and he's being held in the territory of the russian federation, she says. i know for sure he's alive because i received a letter from him. i demand russia release my civilian son. the letter sent from russia was delivered via the red cross in geneva. there are just three words "mama, alive, healthy." did you know immediately when you read it that it was from him? >> yes. >> reporter: he wrote it, she

tells us. i feel he is alive, i hope. what would you want dima to know right now? dima should know mama is waiting for him, she says, mama is fighting for him. she's not the only mother fighting. on monday 108 women including 12 civilians were released from captivity in russia. according to human rights groups hundreds of ukrainian civilians have been imprisoned unlawfully there. lucky ones are used as bargaining chips in prisoner swaps. when we first met her in april she was desperately looking for her daughter victoria. the young math teacher was taken from her home by russian soldiers on march 25th. after they found messages about russian movements in the area on her cellphone. she was taken to a detention center in russia. we hope that she will get in

touch, she says, with somebody, somewhere. last month victoria was one of two civilians who returned to ukraine as part of a prisoner swap. it's over, don't cry, you're home, the other woman released comforts her. it was a moment she'll never forget. >> translator: she called me when she first crossed into ukrainian territory. i was crying and shouting. the whole neighborhood could hear. >> reporter: the family home now is a place of celebration. victoria tries not to dwell on what she went through. were you ever treated badly? >> translator: in the beginning when i first arrived there, yes. >> reporter: in what sense? what did they do? what did they say?

>> translator: different kind of threats about what they would do to me and how they would do it, and physical abuse, too. but i won't say it in front of my mom. mom doesn't have to hear this. >> reporter: how does it make you feel knowing what your daughter went through? >> translator: it's hard, so hard. >> reporter: outside and away from her mother victoria tells us more about her detention. were you assaulted in some way when you were held captive? >> translator: yes, i was given electric shocks. they use sticks on our hands and legs. really this was physical abuse. they were beating me. psychologically i had prepared myself for this possibility, and i knew this could happen in any moment. i was probably lucky that it only happened to me once. >> reporter: international law is very clear that it shouldn't happen at all. under the geneva convention

civilians are to be treated as protected persons, and the act of forcibly transferring them to another country is a war crime. katarina is now focused on the joy of being reunited with her daughter after months of horror. but for so many others the nightmare continues. >> clarissa joins us now. clarissa, is it common for civilians to be captured and used as bargaining chips in these exchanges? >> reporter: well, anderson, it's really difficult to get exact numbers on this because so many of these people, these ordinary civilians are literally just disappeared so often families don't even know where they've been taken to. but we've spoken to a number of human rights groups who are tracking this sort of stuff, and it's certainly fair to say the

numbers are in the hundreds. and that's the case in this piece where there are ordinary civilians in an area occupied by the russian. the russians decide they're spies or collaborators and whatever it may be and forcibly take them and detain them in russia. then you have the secondary issue, which is an even bigger one of people living in areas occupied by the russians forcibly removed or forcibly evacuated ostensibly for their security into russia. that also, by the way, according to human rights groups, is a war crime and those numbers are much higher in the tens and potentially hundreds of thousands, anderson. >> and what's next for victoria and katarina? >> reporter: victoria is going back to her job, incredibly. she's a very strong, determined young woman. she's a math teacher in a suburb to the east of kyiv. and katarina is getting on with her life, too. but the heart breaking thing, anderson, is that they really are some of the few lucky ones.

and there are many more like you met at the beginning of the piece who was looking for her son dima who was lobbying from the rooftops every international organization she can, who other than that letter of just those three words has not had any substantive information as to her son's well-being. and they find themselves at something of a dead end. they're at the mercy of the russian state. and as we know, anderson, the russian state doesn't often deliver mercy. >> and president zelenskyy has been warning the russians could blow up or preparing to blow up a critical dam in the kherson region. what would be the impact of that? >> reporter: i mean, the impact would be devastating. there's a few days now there's been he said, she said back and forth between the ukrainians and russians about this dam. an intelligence official at the defense department saying today basically the russians mined the dam some time ago but now

they're seeing increased activity, more mining of the gates. they also talked about two tented military trucks that had been been packed with explosives on the dam. so the impact if they were to blow up that dam would be not just massive flooding and a huge sort of fallout in terms of like water issues and water scarcity but also potentially it could be devastating for the hydroelectric power plant that is sort of adjacent to the dam. and the ultimate goal here according to zelenskyy, the ukrainian president, is to try to force ukrainians from their homes to make it simply untenable, unsustainable to live here through the winter with all the damage that's been done to ukraine civilian infrastructure. >> clarissa ward, appreciate it. thank you, be careful. up next more allegations of voter intimidation in arizona, and tonight we're learning all of them had been referred to the department of justice. plus there's surveillance video in one case. we'll get the latest from kyung lah.

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we're less than three weeks from the mid-terms. tonight in arizona there are more complaints about alleged voter intimidation. we first told you about one allegation in maricopa last night. we now have surveillance video in that case reported on monday. tonight the arizona secretary of state's office says a total of at least three people have come forward with allegations of harassment in two different locations one in mesa the other in phoenix as they drop off their ballots ahead of election day. all three cases have been referred to the department of justice. cnn's kyung lah joins us with more. i know you obtained closed circuit tv footage from one voter's complaint. what does it show? >> reporter: this is essentially security camera video from a parking lot, anderson. i want you to take a look at it. first it doesn't appear to be anything unusual. it's a voter who is pulling up to drop off his early ballot at a drop box. his wife is in the vehicle. but then he pauses and he looks up, and it appears he's talking to somebody off the screen.

we will learn if you look at the complaint that it was 8 to 10 people. then that voter in the security camera video gets in the vehicle and backs out of the parking lot. the reason why, if you read through the complaint, is he wrote that the people he was engaging with were, quote, filming and photographing my wife and i as we approached the drop box and accusing us of being a mule. more on that in a second. and that they took photographs of our license plate and of us and followed us out of the parking lot. that mule reference, anderson, is referencing a conspiracy film that is often quoted by far-right conspiracy websites and by some right-wing republicans who are running for office in the state of arizona. anderson? >> so what about the other allegations? >> reporter: yeah, a total of three that you referenced have been referred to the department of justice. and if you look at them, they all have the same thing in common.

they're referencing these people at varying numbers at two different drop boxes in maricopa county. people sitting in some lawn chairs, that they are camo clad, and some say that they are intimidating, that they have a clear intent to intimidate. and let's be clear about this, anderson. there's nothing wrong with standing 75 feet away from an election drop box in the state of arizona. it's what the press does in order to get some of those pictures of people dropping off their ballots. what is wrong is if you interfere with someone's ability to vote. anderson? >> and what are the candidates for governor saying about these complaints? >> reporter: we're getting two very different responses. kari lake, the republican, she was directly posed this question by our kate sullivan who's the imbed in arizona, and she was asked what do you think about this complaint that a voter saying they were intimidated to vote. the first thing she said we need to restore integrity to our elections. we need to be very clear there's no evidence of widespread

election fraud especially with the 2020 election some candidates can't seem to let go of including donald trump who lost the 2020 election in the state of arizona. and then democrat katie hobbs who was the secretary of state had the exact opposite reaction. shy she says that she'll defend the right to vote, that she believes in early voting and that her office is prepared to push back should there be anyone that will dispute the results of the 2022 election, including the woman she's running against for governor, kari lake. we take you to hope town and republican candidate herschel walker where decades ago he was known for greatness on the football field. not everyone a fan when it comes to his current political ambitions. here's cnn's diane gallagher. >> reporter: even before the sun rises the hottest topic in town comes up in conversation at the cornbread cafe. >> i like herschel because he's all business. >> reporter: for more than 40 years the town has been talking of herschel walker.

>> he's a local boy that's done good. >> reporter: he has a street, a park, a high school field named after him here. >> i was the number one fan when he played football. >> from the university of georgia, herschel walker. >> reporter: in the self-proclaimed friendliest town in georgia it's easy to find support for walker's senate campaign. nearly 70% of johnson county voted for republican donald trump in the 2020 presidential election. >> herschel's not going to back down. he's a fighter. >> i've been a lot of places, but in wrightsville i learned important lessons. >> reporter: on the trail walker is quick to mention his wrightsville roots. >> he has always participated in our famous fourth of july parade we have every year. he has always done camps for youth here, for football. >> reporter: but not everyone in this rural 3,500-person town is cheering him on.

>> he's still a hometown favorite, but most of the people in the county don't think he's the right person to be running for senate. >> i hope we really do. >> reporter: she doesn't feel the multi-million dollar former resident has done enough to help wrightsville particularly the black community here. >> we see him, once a year when he comes for the parade. >> he's yet to campaign in the black community. >> reporter: curtis dickson who was walker's tenth grade history teacher and a coach on his championship football team described him as a good, polite kid who has given back to this community as an adult. sounds like you like herschel as a player and as a student. >> still do, but, you know, this is business. >> reporter: you don't feel like he's ready. >> he's not ready. >> reporter: readiness is a concern even for those who say they'll still probably vote for walker. >> i think he ought to just wait and look inside before running

to see what it would take. >> herschel walker paid for an abortion for his then-girlfriend. >> reporter: reports about walker's turbulent past including newly surfaced allegations he paid for an ex-girlfriend's abortion more than a decade ago were not major topics around here. walker has repeatedly denied the allegation. the residents we spoke with who said they know walker did say they were surprised by his public acknowledgement in june that he had four children. jerry owensby a supporter who's already cast his ballot for walker but laments the cost the campaign has taken on the candidate personally. >> i wish he hadn't run. >> reporter: explain to me. why not? >> because he's too good for politics. it's hurting his family. >> reporter: dickson says he also worries about the impact this race is having on walker's family but struggles to reconcile the candidate he sees today with the kid he knew decades ago. >> the face is there, the hair is there. it's got a little grayer, but i sometimes wonder if that's the same person. >> reporter: diane gallagher, cnn, wrightsville, georgia.

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rsv, which a common respiratory virus are surging especially among children. the cdc says the cases have jumped nearly 500% since august and it's putting a strain on hospitals. several across the country tell cnn they've been overwhelmed at a time of year when the surge is unusual. connecticut children's hospital says they may need support from the national guard. i want to talk about with it dr. leana wen, a cnn medical analyst and also a public health professor and baltimore's former health commissioner. i understand both of your kids are getting over respiratory infection right now. it's not clear if it's rsv. first of all, what is rsv, and i mean what's happening with this? >> yeah, so rsv is a very common respiratory virus. it's estimated that prior to covid that every child before the age of 2 or virtually every child before the age of 2 is going to get rsv, so it's very common. most of the time it causes very mild symptoms.

now, i think that what's happening right now when it comes to why there's so many cases is that we have this immunity gap. we have a lot of times during the time of covid were born during covid like my child, like my daughter, and i know your children as well, anderson. so they did not get exposed probably to rsv. now there's a lot of rsv around. they're getting exposed to it now. and you have those individuals who would have gotten rsv anyway. so you have a large number of people getting infected which is also why we're seeing this large surge in hospitalizations as well. >> so how do you know if it's rsv or does it matter? >> you mention that my children -- right, exactly. so you mention both of my children have respiratory infections now. this is actually their third bout of respiratory infections since the start of this school year. it's just very common for kids to have runny nose and sneezing and coughing and so forth. for us because they're not severely ill there's no testing.

we're not getting them tested to see if it's adenovirus or rsv or something else. if they were little babies or if they got severely ill, they would get testedch but they're not getting it now. the key is to watch out for severe symptoms and those severe symptoms would include difficulty breathing, if the child has wheezing or grunting, if they're breathing really fast, if their chest is actually turning in as they're breathing, and also if they can't get enough fluids. very important if they're newborns or premature babies in particular because those are the categories most vulnerable to severe illness due to rsv. >> so if it's just sniffles -- so many kids right now have sniffles or runny inoses, that's -- you shouldn't freak out? >> that's exactly right. i think a lot of parents are listening to the news about rsv thinking oh, my goodness, we've just gone through 2 1/2 years worrying about covid, now we're worrying about rsv. there's nothing different about rsv. we have so many people infected

with rsv. that's why our hospital systems are getting strained. but that doesn't always mean rsv is dangerous. in fact, in almost all the cases it's going to be very mild. i will remind people too rsv is something we have pretty limited immunity to, meaning you could get rsv many times in your lifetime. actually older adults who are elderly, have chronic medical issues or immunocompromised are susceptible to infections from rsv. about 14,000 adults a year die from rsv. the key is to protect those who are vulnerable, the newborns, premature babies and older individuals. >> so it's only severe cases the kids who have the breathing problems you were saying who should seek medical attention. how do you keep the virus from spreading? obviously you don't want one child going to their preschool or hanging around their, you know, brother or sister. >> right. so generally it's a good idea to practice good hand hygiene.

these are viruses spread through direct contact, if you sneeze, cough on your hands, et cetera, you could spread it to other people. also commonly touched surfaces. if by touching those surfaces you could transmit it to other people as well, so generally a good idea to stay home when you're sick. although in the case of children who are getting sick all the time in the winter you also can't keep them out of school the entire winter. i think different schools have protocols about for example not sending your kid to school when they have a fever. but in general i think we need to practice good hygiene and protect those who are really vulnerable to severe illness. >> thank you so much. i hope your kids feel better. coming up next we meet a man dedicated to a life in service, a former marine and fire chief who set the standard of how some train rescue teams today. a free plan at fidelity,yoe nina has a plan based on what matters most to her. and she can simply focus on right now. that's the planning effect. from fidelity. you go by lots of titles.

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