>> good evening. just 15 days until midterm elections. new developments for you across the board tonight. this new cnn polling of likely voters and two key senate races and wisconsin and pennsylvania.

wisconsin showing no clear leader -- in the democrat mandela barnes. pennsylvania with democratic lieutenant governor john fetterman, very narrowly ahead of dr. mehmet oz, just outside the margin of error. time to square the importance of this day, we learned today that former president obama will be campaigning their -- final weekend before election day. party officials familiar with the planning telling cnn they've got appearances scheduled for pittsburgh and philadelphia with the possibility of having more. early voting is underway there, and 38 other states. so, far turnout has been heavy -- 2018, midterms with nearly 7. 3 million ballots already cast. with, it we've already seen multiple reports of voter intimidation, including two armed men dressed in tactical gear spotted about a drop box

in mesa, arizona, friday night. attorney general merrick garland was asked about it this afternoon. >> to prevent, to guarantee a free and fair vote by everyone was qualified to vote. and will not permit voters to be intimidated. >> a bit later in the program one arizona grandmother was not intimidated she confronted them and she put it i take care of business. that said the bigger threat, we learned today that the fbi sheriffs representing some of america's biggest county have already discussed the possibility of misinformation fueling violence at polling stations during the midterms. late today, samantha former cnn contributor who is currently department of homeland security. -- ahead of election day as quote, incredibly heightened. that's where we begin tonight. we'll begin with the senate race in tomorrow's debate,

which of real time captioning on the debate stage. that's to accommodate john fetterman's difficulty filtering and interpreting sound since his stripe back in may. it's a condition according to doctors, that doesn't affect pennsylvania's intelligence or thinking, and this weekend's republican opponents not to downplay the health angle. he has however, made an issue another points, that have been a bruising campaign for both canada. it's the democratic senator amy has been helping to fetterman get ready for tomorrow's debate, she joins us now. great to see you. i want to ask you about your experience with fetterman in a moment. but first, i want to start with the cnn poll that shows democrats morales holding their ground in three key saints, still closer than recent poll in this -- does your party need to make any course corrections over the next two weeks?

>> i think the cnn pools are positive here. i've seen a number of ones like. this tammy baldwin told nina conson, exactly what it shows. it's tied there. and this is about voter turnout. i lost my voice because i've gone to so many voter turnout events. this is about getting people to realize what's on the line here. democracies on the line. the future is on the line. we have candidates who take on pharma, we've got candidates that are willing to take on price gouging. and actually stand up for people. and i love our candidates, one of those candidates of course is john fetterman. in pennsylvania. who has the one actra beauty actually lives in the state we like that unlike his opponent who a plea or spend time in new jersey and pennsylvania's love john fetterman. they know muslim tennant governor. they nomads mayor braddock, they know he's someone who has their back. >> you participated in this event with lieutenant governor. the event used the code captured technology that he's

using and it's stroke recovery. can you explain what that was like, how you expect him to do in a debate tomorrow night with dr. oz? >> yeah, it's pretty straightforward, anderson. first of all, he spoke with no notes, just like he will be at the debate. and he answered questions, we went back and forth, we had a conversation. the only different says, the words that the moderators says, or that is opponent will say, are up on the screen. so, he can read them at the same time he hears them. that's all it is. all of his own words will be spoken from the heart. he was never a polished debater to begin with, doctor oz has had a show for 20 some years. but i think what the people of pennsylvania and now, what i've seen, being out there is that they know that john fetterman is not your typical politician, he super top'll, he's got tattoos, he came into politics starting angie d. program for kids that hadn't gotten their high school degree. something i hope my own sister, by the way, in another state.

i think that they get hooley is. part of this thing is he sometime mixes up words here and there. he'll say a few words wrong like we all do. that's gonna happen. but the point of it is, when they look at the two candidates it's about who has got my best interest at heart. who's gonna stand up for my reproductive health care. a guy that says he's not for abortion, or someone that's gonna have the backs of the women. >> when you are looking in his eyes, you're talking to him, does he, what's it like having a conversation with him? >> it was. gray >> his cognition, would you say it's totally normal? >> yes. it's backed up by what the

doctor said. there was a doctor's letter that came out saying he was strong, no coordination issues, no cognitive issues. he teased me about the viking eagles game. okay. we talked about a lot of things. i told him about the dress code in the senate. and what i consider, my idea. >> he may have trouble at that. >> jean shorts friday. it was a normal conversation except, yeah, he looks at the words. he needs to do that. he's five months out of a stroke, he's shown us resilience is all about. i think it's important. >> i want to ask you about something the republican ted cruz said earlier today on the view. he was asked multiple times whether he believes president biden was legitimately elected. he ignored the question the first time. the second time he said this. >> with biden legitimately elected, half the party thinks he wasn't, it be very powerfully for you to tell the truth? >> biden is the president today. there's a lot of folks in the media -- hold on, i'm answering exactly that question. those folks in the media the try to, anytime republicans in front of a tv camera. try to say, the election was

fair and square and legitimate. you know we don't do that to, you don't do a teller clinton. >> it's remarkable, the lanes that senator cruz is willing to go to to avoid stating a simple fact. is that because he likes so many republicans, are scared of trump and trump voters in his state? >> that's part of. it anderson, let's not forget ted cruz was one of the few senators that voted against certifying the electoral college results in those key votes for arizona and pennsylvania. that we had on january six, late in the evening, after the insurrection. they had basically assaulted the capitol. and our police officers so that was his position that. i'm not surprised it hasn't changed. i think with the voters out there need to understand. what those guys didn't accomplish, with bear spray and buttons, and bayonets back on

january 6th are not trying to do with voter suppression laws. as you just pointed out, people show up in gear. at a voting place to scare people. that's what's happening. so, if anything as we saw in georgia in the last election in the runoff. it makes voters. bad they want to turn out and say, this is our democracy in you're not gonna take it away from us. whether you're independent democrats moderate republicans. i think that is a factor for a lot of voters. donald trump's shadow, as you can see from ted cruz, is still looming above the election. so that's why all in with fetterman and -- margiela barnes, all of our candidates, judge beasley, val demings, and tim ryan. who i was just with a few days ago in ohio. against all odds, is in a tie in ohio.

and i think you can win that race. i don't hear anybody counting out our candidate. it all comes down to who shows up to vote. do you want to have ted cruz, do you want to have donald trump in your face every day. or do you want to move forward and's help people in this economy. get things done for that. this is what this election is about. >> i appreciate your time. thank you. i decisive races missing a traditional partisan, in utah, between mike lee and evan mcmullin. both describe themselves as conservative, mcmullin running as an independent. it -- ran against the former president. he's saying that he won't caucus with either potter if elected. we invited him and senator lead to the program. senegalese office didn't get back to us near -- evan mcmullin joins us tonight. thank you for being with. as you may the january six insurrection central to your campaign. do you believe that if elected you'll find more common ground on protecting democracy with republicans or democrats? >> well, i think there is a pro democracy coalition to be had in the senate, anderson, and you've got democrats of course and i think there's some republicans who would join us. the bottom line is, if we're gonna protect our democracy in america, we need to build across partisan coalition to do it. democrats don't have the votes

on their own. principled republicans don't have them either. or neither do independents. we need to come together and that's what we're doing today in utah. senator lee try to overturn the last election, our democratic republic with fake electors, and utah guns aren't having it. we're building a coalition of republicans, democrats, independents to replace him. but the nation we need to do the same across the nation. >> we have a republican senator from rooted, romney, hasn't zeroes you -- it's extraordinary for a

sitting center in the same part not to support his home state colleagues for reelection. senator leahy i think is even pleaded on tv for senator romney's -- trump white house overturn the election is at least part of the reason that senator romney is not -- . ? >>, lilac, i have to defer to senator romney can only speak to that but i will say that senator romney and senator lee are two very different kinds of senators, anderson. one, on the part of senator romney, he works across party lines to get things done. he's remain committed, his adult to the constitution, and to defend that. senegalese done the opposite. he's won a least productive members of the senate, in the 12 years of service, he's only passed ten bills. a good number of them were in federal buildings. he refuses to work with members of his own party, letter own democrats to get things done.

and he's betrayed his oath to the constitution, when he tried to help president trump remain in office, despite the will of the people. it's something that had they've been successful, would've ended or lead to the end of the american republic. and for all of those reasons, it's isn't a surprise that senator romney, who knows senator lee best. is refusing to endorse adam. and that's why, again, we're able to build a large coalition to replace senator lee. >> liz cheney said yesterday republicans dominate the president again in 2024. lilia do conservative party that rises up. would you, a's that true, b would you be inclined to support her if she would run for president in 2024? >> well, i believe she would make a compelling candidate. i'm hopeful that there will be candidates like her, perhaps, her precisely running either as republicans are otherwise. we certainly need principled

conservatives, representing those of us who consider ourself still conservative meaning in my view, as it pertains to me i'm committed to our core values that were graded phoenixville and to the institution that protect those values like our elections, constitution, i think senator -- liz cheney fits that description as well. there's others i hope to see more of them running for office, and hopefully pulling the party away from its current direction. we'll have to see if that's the case or not. >> evan mcmullin, i appreciate your time tonight. coming up next, a closer look at the appearance of paul -- over the weekend but arizona's top election officials referring to that incident and several more the federal authorities. later, you came of a live report from the city under heavy attack from the air. the latest on a troubling top russian side raising a specter that russia claims the ukrainian using a radioactive dirty bomb in the region. allegedly, as a pretext for using one themselves. using one themselves. (dog barking) we love our pets. but we don't always love their hair. which is why we made bounce pet hair and lint guard with three times the pet hair fighting ingredients. just one sheet helps remove pet hair from your clothes! looking good starts in the dryer with bounce pet. you love closing a deal. but hate managing your business from afar.

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multiple nights. one woman, a phoenix area grandmother, decided to confront them. >> hey -- >> why did you decide to go out there? >> i'm standing up and pushing back against those people. i'm standing up for everybody's right to vote. >> i set up right here, julia? >> without fear of retaliation or any type of intimidation. >> hi, how are. >> yoshi asked we not show her face. because she did this. she went right up to the armed man's face. >> i don't talk. i take care of business. i go out there and do what i have to do. >> nice to meet you. >> i pushed back, against these kind of people. people who are intimidating voters. >> he's putting that in the face. he's with a gun standing over

top of. me >> i'm standing up and pushing back against those people, standing up for everybody's right to vote. without fear of retaliation or any kind of intimidation. >> i'm just sitting right here. >> you know, seeing that, you'd think that you were in some autocratic nation. and not the united states of america. >> to outdoor ballot drop box and maricopa county have a kind of flash point. around the clock so called ballot watchers are camped out, late sunday night, we saw this group of women at the same drop box. >> you're not supposed to talk to anybody? >> they didn't want to talk. at another drop box in downtown phoenix, they're photographing voters, and already these actions are impacting have odors feel. according to complaints filed a report to the department of justice last week one voter complaint he was called a meal. it's a reference to a conspiracy movie that spread lies about the 2020 election. >> i'm talking about people who have spread lies. the supervisor bill gates, our republican, who's defended the election process two years of

lies have come to this. >> why are you in camouflage, how is that gonna keep people from seeing ill? you're in a parking lot? >> we're really losing rationality and logic here. >> arizona's live through the discredited partisan review of maricopa county's 2020 ballots. republicans in the midterm ballot like kari lake, are raising doubt about this november's election. but force a single vote has even been. cast >> i'm afraid that it probably isn't gonna be completely fair. i wish i can see there and say i've complete faith in the system. i don't have faith in this system. >> we begin to look at defining -- mark finchem, urged parlors -- to watch all drop boxes. he made a conspiracy reference to democratic donor george soros. >> this is why we have elections, to avoid the sort of confrontations. it's been normalized in some way over the past few years. but we're not gonna normalize

it here in america but ghani. i encourage people to take the temperature down. >> our reporter joins us from mesa, arizona. -- >> he says that basically this doesn't meet up threshold for a crime. he was asked what can you do about this and he says he's going to expand resources, i see two sheriff patrol vehicles sitting nearby. the keeping watch on. that's our deputies here as well but there is a right to bear arms here in arizona. the tactical gear that we consider that unfortunate, it is clothing of their choosing. and what is still happening out here, anderson, this is the box over my right shoulder, and knock you, as we see people vote but this is still continuing to see these folks on these launch airs it doesn't appear any of this particular group is armed. that's usually when the sun comes down.

people here, deputies have told us, they show up. the sheriff said he's working with the department of justice to see if any of this might be impeding the vote. and if this is a violation of a federal crime. one thing i should add, is that a lawsuit has been followed filed by a couple of activists groups. and organizations. seeing if they do actually believe that this is a violation of civil rights. -- >> a new development in georgia 's criminal probe in the 2020 election. lindsey graham, who's been trying to avoid testifying for the atlanta area grand jury. got help today from the supreme court clarence thomas, who's responsible for emergency appeals for the jurisdiction. temporarily freezing a lower court over the senator's testimony. cnn's paula reid joins us now with more. what is a meet for senator graham and the georgia investigation, and how long does this freeze last. ? >> it's a temporary win for the senator. so far he's been unsuccessful and convincing lower courts to

block the subpoena from the atlanta area grand jury. where investigators want to question him about calls that he made following the 2020 presidential race. where he asked about absentee voting procedures in the state. as well as a voter fraud. again, this is not the final word in this case, the senator has argued though, that he should not be able to be questioned about things that he said were constitutionally protected, legislative activities, where he's carrying a route in the course of his job as a senator. he wasn't able to convince lower courts that argument. the supreme court has temporarily put a hold on the subpoena that was dated for november 17th. it's giving george

investigators until thursday to respond it's expected that these questions will go to the full. or >> can you just explain, why was this justice thomas's decision to? make >> great question. he's responsible for handling emergency appeals from the 11th circuit. where this case generated. of course as we know, he's been under a lot of scrutiny after it was revealed that's wife, ginni thomas, conservative activist was pressuring trump white house officials to try to overturn the 2020 election. there's calls for him to recuse himself from any's cases related to election interference. clearly, he did not do that here. again, it's more of an administrative move this case has questions about whether the

senator will have to potentially testify before the grand jury. those haven't been answered on the merits just get by the high. court >> paul arrayed, thank you. summit just, ahead national security spokesman john kirby about russia, the threat of dirty bombs in ukraine. also tonight, we'll go live to the war zone course awards in the southern part of the country, mykolaiv, near the front lines after missile strikes. for -- civilians in that area are surviving the onslaught. ♪ what will you do? ♪ what will you change? ♪ will you make something better? ♪ will you create something entirely new? ♪ our dell technologies advisors provide you with the tools and expertise you need to do incredible things. because we believe there's an innovator in all of us. one prilosec otc each morning blocks

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if it was the radioacive dirty bomb in ukraine. the threat came after western allies rejected plans by top russian military officials, that ukraine was planning to use a dirty bomb. more than that story, in a moment. but we first want to give a few minutes on the state of the war in the south of ukraine around the city of kherson. ukraine officials say that -- and russian missile struck the nearby city of mykolaiv this weekend. cnn chief correspondent clarissa ward, she's focusing on the plight of civilians in both cities. >> by now it's become a familiar routine in mykolaiv in the relative calm of daylight hours, as residents comb through the wreckage of the night before. on this day, it's an apartment building on the outskirts of town, as two russian s-300 missiles hit at one in the morning. so, this here is where the first strike at then you can see the second one just smashed in to the top of the building.

five people were injured, miraculously no one was killed. in one apartment, andrei is busy cleaning up. he tells us this is what the russians do. they shoot not at military objects but where people live, he says. the fact is the anger towards them is rising, and it won't go away. not in a month, not in a year, not even ten years. in the southern port city, people have become used to hardship. since april, there has been no freshwater here. the main pumping station was hit in a russian strike. now, they gather every day and patiently wait to stock up. a few blocks down, another line. this one for humanitarian aid. will i be able to get something today? this woman asks. we already have 100 people on the list, the organizer

replies. mykolaiv is less than 20 miles from the nearest front lines. at just 35 miles from the russian held city of kherson. last week, russia announced civilians must leave kherson, warning of an imminent ukrainian attack. ukraine called it propaganda to distract from recent ukrainian military gains. it's difficult to get a picture of what is really going on in kherson. but we managed to connect with one resident who we will call vitali who took these videos. the streets, he says is empty. but there are people in markets. most vendors no longer want to take russian rubles. they prepare for a potential russian withdrawal. >> do you have a sense of rather russian forces have left the city are not? >> [speaking non-english] >> and why did you decide to stay? are you not frightened? [speaking non-english]

>> the people who remain in mykolaiv have made a similar decision. back at the strike site, the cleanup has already begun. as the city braces itself for the next attack. >> clarissa joins us now from mykolaiv. we saw that little boy cleaning up, so sad. the physical hardship, the threats, attacks are taking a toll. how are residents, how are people stealing themselves for what remains to come? >> well, we just heard tonight from president volodymyr zelenskyy, saying ukrainian should prepare themselves for the toughest winter yet. and based by what we're seeing on the ground, it's gonna be a very grim winter indeed. there is complete blackouts, as

you can see behind me, and a curfew. that's not because of the hits on the infrastructure. it's because of security reasons, mykolaiv getting hit so often. but that's being compounded by the fact that you do now have rolling blackouts, very limited use of electricity. no freshwater since april. people here really need to bathe or take showers insulted water, so it's clearly not a sustainable situation at the same time people just don't want to leave their homes. they don't want to leave their property. we met a lot of people like andre, the man who's cleaning up his apartment say they sent their families away for their own security. but they are determined to wait here, until the bitter and. and based off everything we've seen, everything we're hearing in the direction things are

moving in as we get into winter. and russia continues to pound civilian infrastructure. it's gonna be better indeed, anderson. >> clarissa ward, be careful, thank. you next, threat we mention about the use of dirty bombs, russians claims without evidence, ukraine was prepared to use what they is essentially a device that contains explosives, with radioactive material. all their concerns tonight, as -- to escalate the war perhaps to such a bomb themselves. -- >> how concerned is the united states and nato of about the dirty bomb allegations? >> it's deeply concerning. you can pick up the tone and tenor from the readout the pentagon game after secretary austin's call with the russian counterparts. it certainly, we know these are false allegations. there is no such dirty bomb planned by the ukrainians. that's false. but the russians would raise it, at their request, they

initiated that phone call. it gives us cause for concern. i will tell you, we'll watch this as close louisiana clued in today i'm just not seeing any kind of preparation moving in that regard right now. >> what sort of preparations, i don't if you can say, i will kind of preparations would onesie, or could one see of preparation for a dirty bomb attack? >> yeah, look you dig salmon all kinds of different sources of intelligence, both from the ukrainians on the ground as well as other ways you can divide information about what the russians may be planning to do. and how they're preparing for a it can range from the way that they're talking to one another, to the range of actual physical movement, again, we're watching this very, very closely and we're not seeing anything that would give us pause right now to think, this kind of an attack, or this kind of false flag would be eminent.

>> this does seem something out of the russian playbook, i feel like we've seen this before from russia? >> it's not uncommon for the russians to blame others for what they're doing or what they're planning to do. again, it's why we took the call seriously, and made that public for what the russians were alleging. it wasn't just last, brett's, the french, and other countries as well made that public. so, it is of the kind of false flag pretext operations that the russians are known for. again, it's what gives us the concern. does the u.s. currently have the diplomatic channels to be able to communicate with russia in the event of some sort of nuclear crisis? >> yes, indeed we do. i still have an embassy in moscow, and we certainly have communications with russian counterparts. and there's also deconfliction channel which is used for tactical stop. around the eastern flank of nato that set up in europe, and

european command. to speak to the russians at that level. there's multiple ways of communicating. it's important right now as we said throughout the last eight months, while we don't want business as usual with russia, we believe it's important for a bilateral communication to stay open. >> today, there was a group of three house democrats urging what they called a proactive, diplomatic push to seek a cease-fire. last week, it interview, kevin mccarthy suggested that the republican house would -- tierney sitting in a recession, they're not going to write a blank check to ukraine. is the white house concerned about being able to continue to provide support to ukraine? >> we've been getting terrific bipartisan support. both sides of the aisle for the last eight months, beyond that. and certainly, strong public support for supporting ukraine and we're grateful for that and the presidents gonna continue to work with congress going forward, i won't get ahead of the midterms. i know things might or might

not shake out. we believe they're strong bipartisan support for supporting ukraine. we don't believe that that's gonna change going forward. everybody understands, not just on capitol hill, but throughout the country, what's at stake care what ukraine sovereignty, and their ability to defend themselves. >> john kirby, we appreciated. thanks. up next, we're getting new details on today's deadly shooting in the school in st. louis. what police are saying tonight, next. ♪ i got into debt in college and, no matter how much i paid, it followed me everywhere. so i consolidated it into a low-rate personal loan from sofi. get a personal loan with no fees, low fixed rates, and borrow up to $100k. sofi. get your money right.

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the others injured are all teenagers, 15 or 16 years old, on a variety of wounds including a fractured ankle. at least three of them has gunshot wounds. >> did the commissioner say how the suspect was able -- to enter the school the gun? >> he did, not he was clear when reporters asked repeatedly, he said he didn't want to give one of those information, he doesn't want what happened at this school to happen here again. or at any school across the country. he did say, the weapons that shooter used, was not concealed. >> when he entered, it was out. there was no mystery about what was going to happen. he had an out. and entered in the grass, violent manner. this could have been much worse. the individual had almost a dozen 30 round high capacity

magazines on a. so, that's a whole lot of victims there. but because of the quick response, that suspected not have the opportunity to turn this into a -- certainly tragic for the families, and tragic for community. but it could have been a whole lot worse. >> and the commissioner says it could have been a whole lot worse, but he credits the quick response by members of law enforcement. that called for an active shooter came in around 9:11. about four minutes, later members of law enforcement showed up at sea. at 9:23, they engaged with that shooter and at 9:25 that 19 year old was down according to the commissioner, editor. >> appreciate it. just, ahead we remember the life of someone that got to speak and laugh with a great deal of the last couple years. after an instagram start leslie jordan, who died today. over tub process, there's no mess or stress. bath fitter.

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that jordan was involved in a car crash in hollywood. but we just wanted to take a few moments tonight and remember his life and his light. leslie was funny and he was kind, and i was fortunate enough to talk with him a bunch of times over the last couple of years. he was the same person on camera as he was off. who's the person that millions of us fell in love with on instagram during the early days of the covid pandemic, or on willing grace where he won an emmy for his recurring character. leslie jordan was hilarious, he was unpredictable. he would tell stories about betty white bopping him over the head with a fake frying pan during a scene on a tv show he claims sent him flying through the air. but apart from the too good to fact-check stories he would sometimes tell, which is part of that southern charm of him, he was all of them -- also breeze really open and refreshingly honest. what it was about growing up gay in the south or the death of his father in a plane crash at the end -- age of 11, or is battles with substance abuse there is able to kick. the first time i interviewed with him was in 2020, and i want to play part of that

conversation now. because i can talk a lot about him and tell him who he was. we cannot really know leslie join until you hunker down with him. the clip starts with a video from his instagram account. >> are y'all watching netflix? honey, i conquered netflix. i've watched a mile. i watched what the tigers, i watched the one about the boy who tortured kittens, i watch the one about the nun who got killed in 1969. i watch the one about ivan the terrible. there is nothing laughed for me to watch. but i am not about to turn on the news. i won't -- they want to make you think it's like the end of the world. they don't know [noise]. i will turn on anderson cooper, because people have said that we resemble. [laughs] we both have white hair. >> leslie jordan joins us now. god bless you, i am, i am so

thrilled that you are here. you give me such joy. i'm so honored that people say we resemble. i can tell you how many people come up to me and say leslie, is that you? >> no, you do not. >> well, i made that up. but you know what, you're making up stories all the time, and you confess them on instagram. you made up a story that even telling apparently for years, you told linda blood worth thomas some story about some poor lady in your church that had a baby and you said the baby was, what, it looks like a pig? >> a little tiny baby paid. and she would hold it up for everybody to look at, and it had bose in its hair and little freely stocks. the story got bigger and bigger. and linda blood worth thomas and wrote it into hearts afire. and they hired deborah joe rough, to play the woman. and i had to tell that story, and i thought to myself, i made that up. i made that up. >> [laughs] >> but that's kind of like a lot of it is, you kind of just

make little stories. that's a very southern thing. >> my dad's from mississippi. and one, time my mom called him up, and was like i've been trying to get through to you on the phone for hours, the lines been busy, who have you been talking to? he would say oh, it's wrong number. he just talk to anybody. this is before instagram. so, like every time i hear you, i just think so many of my missing relatives. what do you think of your instagram famed? it's got to be, you know, to know that you're giving such joy to so many people? >> it started, you know, i have had a long career in hollywood and i thought, you know, i've got a lot of attention but never like this. it's like 3.8 million followers. it's gotten just -- >> wow. >> out of control. and so, now this might be a bit off the cuff, so i've never went and thought and planned it out at all. but i will get up, something

will happen, and i will film it. but i think what is happening, which is fun, is that people who have known me for years for all these characters. but i thought they knew me knew me. and i'm just a funny guy who comes in with a zinger. but all of a sudden at 65 years of age, people are like beating me. [laughs] >> what's so great is it so intimate. you started out, you're just in your bed, just looking -- and i like how you start and so many of you videos, you are like what are you doing, what are you all doing? it's like someone calls you up and says hey, conquer downers, what are you doing? it's so great. >> i decided early on that i was not going to try making money on this, and have fun. people start tiptoeing around offering things. and i thought, well, i've got to stick to what i'm staying. >> do you? come on. >> i don't longer have to hunker down. >> you could hunker down with, like, you know, some product and be, like, hey, hunker down or's. hey, it's my new sit and spin.

i love sit and spin. >> monopoly. i'm gonna be the biggest heart in hollywood when this is over. i made $100 a day. i'm going to sell out. >> [laughs] as you heard at that point in time, leslie had about 3.8 million followers on instagram. as of today, it's 5.9 million. in fact, i'll leave you now with his last post before he died. he posted it just yesterday. and it's a coincidence that it kind of takes your breath away. it's a duet he performed with a musician, danny myrick, an old church him, when the rule was called up yonder. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ the trumpets of the l'oréal sound, and times shall be no more. ♪ ♪ ♪ and the morning breaks eternal and bright and fair. ♪ ♪ ♪ gather over on the other shore. and the rule is calling yonder, and i will be there.

♪ ♪ ♪ when the road is calling yonder. when the road is calling yonder ♪ ♪ ♪ when the road is calling yonder ♪ ♪ ♪ when the road is calling yonder, i will be there. ♪ ♪ ♪ and he called 13 times just to make sure i'm going to be there. >> and he is there. we remember leslie jordan, dead at the age of 67. impossible to forget, because he made this a better world by his presence. we will be right back.

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