in case you have not heard, the midterms are about two weeks away and the threat of chaos around election day, is frankly very real. >> was discuss all of this. we have our political panel, analyst herndon, republican analyst doug hahn, and political commentator kerry, great to have all of you with us here tonight but there is so much to talk about in terms of chaos that could happen with the midterms, let start with election deniers. as you know, the place is lousy with them right now, particularly in places like arizona. then, today, ted cruz went on the view and could not answer

the question as to whether or not joe biden was legitimately elected. he pivoted, and karen, this will be to you because this is the new talking point that i hear all the time now from republicans, when they get uncomfortable about the election denying, the pivot immediately to the past. with listen to this. >> was biden legitimately elected? half of the party thinks that he wasn't that it would be very powerful for you to tell the truth. >> listen, i'm is the president today. a lot of folks in the media, hold on, i'm answering that question. a lot of folks in the media that try to come anytime a republican is in front of a tv camera, try to say, the election was fair and square and legitimate. you know who yell you want to do that too? you don't do that to hillary clinton. >> they are starting to try to claim that because hillary clinton, her supporters were disappointed with the outcome that is the same thing as what is happening now. >> let me tell you something

come on election night in 2016, when these nights happened, you are on the phone trying to figure out what is happening, the votes are coming in, the question that we asked ourselves, as a team was, can we get to 270? because we knew as a staff, if we could not go back to hillary and say, yes, we think we can get to 270, it is worth it to try to push this out, to continue counting, then we knew she would not try to -- she knew it would be bad for the country. that is the conversation that should be happening every election night, whether or not you legitimately have the votes , and actually one, or, if not, how are we going to lie, cheat, steal, and they'd. it is so toxic to our country to be doing this. we are already so divided and polarized, and it is just further driving wedges between us. in ways that are shameful books but i always hate when people try to somehow undermine or say

that you are stupid that you don't listen or recognize a pivot, you don't recognize that somebody has not yet set a yes or no in response to a yes or no question. and you think about the strategy, doug, thinking about the way that this happens, i mean, why would a sitting senator not simply say, that we have a free and fair elections, but on the other side he will come out and said that as long as he was elected, then we must have fair and free. what is the strategy behind that? is it that they think that voters will be like, you know what? this pivot works for me? it can't possibly. >> our politics have gotten so tribal that the audience wants to hear what they want to hear. the left wants to hear what they want to hear, the right wants to hear what they want to hear. there is nobody hearing a truth that really satisfies anyone. if you are a republican senator,

donald trump won fair and square in 2016, joe biden won every fair and square in 2020, and i will run to defeat him in 2024. your base will respond to that but you need to take it to a claim of truth. >> this analogy they are using with hillary clinton is a crazy one because she conceded. she went to the inauguration. it was not her supporters having an insurrection. >> we should be really clear that this is a false equivalence. there is no equal action between what happened on 2016 and what happened in 2020. but, the reason to say that they are making this very obvious pivot is because he read those results from the republic and primaries just like everyone else did. trump backed candidates were successful, even though they embraced those false election claims. and so, he is following where the base is right now and trying to calibrate his position to them. now, to your point, that is not

leadership, particularly on the facts of the election but that is a politician reading the signs of where the grassroots of the republican party are and trying to match his reputation. >> part of this is about the january 6th committee. we are conflating some of it, to your point, when you talk about 2016, i think what they mean i hate to put words in someone's inarticulate mouth, but the idea thinking about it is, are they suggesting, look, you doubted that the russians did not interfere in our elections, the committees and treatments were about trying to come in part, look for interference. they are conflating that with an investigation into what led up to january 6th. but, the american talking point is, hold on a second, you doubted it then, and now you are doubting this or you did not doubt, one or the other. is that what you're doing? conflation? >> to some extent, yes. here's the problem politically with politics on this for republicans. we have seen the impact that can have when you have an election denier like donald

trump go to the state of georgia and spend all his time there saying the election was rigged against me, your vote doesn't count hogans lost two senate seats on this. for republicans, smart enough. if you want to win, this is not a strategy for you in november, and george georgia may have a runoff again this time. >> hillary clinton just sprinkle it in anytime if you are a republican and you get in trouble. it's hillary's fault. poor women. i've always said she should get royalties for them using her name. the other thing we should applaud is the voters, because we are seeing people, despite all the challenges, coming out in record numbers. and, that is something to be applauded, because voters themselves are saying, you know what? i am still going to vote. if you are a republican or democrat we got to protect that, we've got to protect the freedom to vote, we also know we have to do a better job in protecting our elections. >> i don't like agreeing with

karen as much as i do. >> and if you do. i love that. you know who does not agree on this point, as well, speaking of election deniers, what happens to be the spouse of a sitting supreme court justice. jenny thomas today, justice thomas, of course, he is the point person from the circuit court from which this came, he gave a temporary win to senator lindsey graham by saying listen, you don't have to right now, testifying in front of the grand jury impaneled in georgia, because, we need to figure out an administrator stay about the speech and debate clause but we will shield you from having to say things. talking about the idea of elections for the hint of impropriety, that is a huge problem. >> how is justice, is not conflicted. >> if i were not a political reporter i would be a lawyer. you have a real feeling of the wrapup of a conflict of

interest between the supreme court justice, and what was obviously his wife leaning into those very clear election conspiracies. those false claims that the election was stolen. she was not just a passive member of that, she was actively using her power and trying to rally others to that cause. so, there is no shortage of facts, here, that the thomas household was very much wrapped up in core questions of election denial. >> let's remind everyone. j jenny thomas on november 10th send this text to mark meadows. helpless great president stand firm, mark, exclamation points. the majority knows biden and the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history. she was a witness on january 6th. how can her husband not have recused himself from all matters about january 6th? or the election, basically? >> it's shameful and another example of a supreme court that is out of control. that is literally not operating in the best interest of this

country. i will never forget when judge thomas said, after the dobbs decision, remember he touched on privacy, but then he did not say anything about interracial marriage, which, as a biracial person, i was looking for that one, but as a man who, himself, is married to a white woman, right? that touches too close to home. we are just going to weave in and out of the law to suit us. >> to be fair, one point about justice thomas, he did -- he is likely to refer it to the entire supreme court to decide the issues on administrator stay but the point is not lost that although he is the point person for that circuit, the fact that he is able to entertain even that moment is cause for concern. i remember the hint of impropriety is the issue, right? not just the obvious. >> all right, let's get closely to new sound coming out bob woodward's audiotapes with president trump, he has been releasing all of these -- donald trump in his own words,

sir, this is the moment we heard for the first time this evening, and it is about how he was explaining the coded outbreak to his 13-year-old son, baron. >> i wanted to capture the moment where your son, baron, asked you about this. >> well, he's just turning 14, so he was 13, upstairs in his bedroom in the white house and he said dad, what is going on? i said it came out of china, baron. pure and simple, it came out of china and should have been stopped. to be honest with you, they should have let it be known it was a problem two months earlier, and the world would not -- have 141 card countries have analogous of the world will not have a problem that we could have stopped it easily. >> well, i mean that is not wrong. if china had been more transparent about it. >> it is not your typical father-son conversation. presidents don't have typical father-son conversation sometimes began, what he said was right.

it just is a little strange and leaves you scratching your head on, is that the father-son conversation? >> is that the bedtime story? >> right but you can tell that by asking the question, he was looking for a little texture, right? a little like, i sat him down and explained to him, i told him, don't be afraid. some version, right? that is comforting, donald trump doesn't do that. he is always on his talking points for kicking out of china, it came out of china but even with his kid. >> whether that was the conversation or not, there's a good chance that wasn't the conversation. >> the larger point, to me, is cognitive dissonance, right? the point was, at the time that he was in office, he was president of the united states and could have taken action, to be more productive about alerting people, he has a rule, but but being the head executive, that was lost in the conversation. >> absolutely.

whether the origin of the coronavirus, or how he packaged that message to his son, he could have been a more prepared president to leave the country in that critical moment. i think, at that time, we saw all of the flaws of the trump white house really spill out into public policy. the unpreparedness, the mixed messaging, the lack of discipline. those have real human cost. so, i certainly think it is, just hearing donald trump recount these stories, it is kind of a fascinating experience. but, you are right, that in that, it shows the dissonance between what he was saying privately, and what he -- what we were seeing on the public stage and his role as commander in chief. >> it's fascinating to think about it all, and here we are, still, together. how wonderful. the question now is, are we on the verge of another chaotic election? spoiler alert, maybe. what do you think of ted cruz on the view? refusing to say joe biden was legitimately elected? conversation unfolding on this, anything else you want to say

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a teenager accused of killing four students at a michigan high school last year pleaded guilty today. 16-year-old ethan crumbly pleaded guilty to 24 total charges including one count of terrorism and four counts of first-degree murder. facing up to life in prison without the possibility of parole. on several of the charges. now, his parents, jennifer and james crumbly retracing four counts of involuntary manslaughter after prosecutors accused them of giving their son easy access to a gun and ignoring signs that he was a threat, before the shooting. those two have pleaded not guilty and their trial will start in january. paul allen, doug, and aaron

kenny are back with us. a bit of a surprise that he pleaded guilty after initially, it wasn't as though the facts have changed in any meaningful way. the fact were just too overwhelming? >> when he answered the questions of the prosecutor to admit his guilt. he pled guilty to all 24 counts in the indictment and the prosecutor said, we have made no deal whatsoever within. so, the judge in the case could give the maximum sentence consecutive counts on each count. so, i think that what is going on is, they are going to assert an insanity defense, originally and defense lawyers came to the conclusion it was an untenable defense. it is very hard to prove insanity in a court of law. and, ultimately, they decided the only hope for him was to have him plead guilty to

everything and for the court to see that level of cooperation and you should get a lighter sentence than life in prison. >> let's talk about his sentence. -- his parents. legally, how are they not responsible? before they bought their 15-year-old a gun, they knew that he was paranoid, he saw demons, he had hallucinations but this is all according to the prosecutor with evidence of text about this. he tortured animals. he kept the severed head of a bird in his room. he had scribbled symbols in his notebook. he had drawings of guns in his notebook. he texted a friend he was going to shoot up the school. this is before they bought him a gun. are and the legally responsible ? >> it's astounding and it goes beyond that. he told the father what kind of a gun he wanted. he gave the father the money for the gun and the father then brought the gun. by the way, it was a six-hour semi automatic pistol. very dangerous weapon. and, they did not lock the weapon off.

he had free access to it, then, on the day of the shooting, he was a drawing something in the classroom and what he was drawing was a picture of a gun, and he was writing down the thoughts won't go away. school authorities called the parents, obviously, they would bring the parents in and said you got to bring him home and put him into counseling. the parents refused to bring him home. when he left the house that morning, he had a backpack and in that backpack was the gun, and an hour or so later, the shooting began. for kids dead, seven people seriously injured. >> so these parents will go to prison? >> they've been charged with involuntary manslaughter. which is a cause of death as a result of grossly negligent or reckless act. to my knowledge, it is the first time in the united states that parents have been charged in a mass murder murder case. now, we see it sometimes, when a toddler gets a hold of a policeman's gun because he has not locked it up properly. sometimes, you will see a manslaughter indictment brought,

but never in the case of a mass shooting. this will be a first. we have to see how the jury will react, unlike the son who has pled guilty. they face 15 years in prison if they are convicted. >> in michigan we talk about the access and who have access to weapons. it's a bit of a different law there in terms of what they are required to do as parents, but the thing about it, as you make the grade point, the novelty of these charges, because a lot of the law works to act as a deterrent for future behavior and unfortunately, there was a mass shooting today after school. these issues continue to happen. what have the parents done about it? it really sends a message, about what the next steps might be to deter. because, is it resonating with people, do you think? >> it's interesting, because it does seem -- we have had this conversation before, i hate to say, in previous mass shootings

for the request and spout, could they take legal action against the parents, and it does feel like, given how hard it has become to pass any common sense gun legislation, president biden did just get a bipartisan bill passed, but we need to do more. maybe localities are looking at, what other options do we have? on the table. another another thing i thought was interesting is, a group of students filed a federal lawsuit against the school, saying that they did not meet their obligation to keep them safe. >> because they should have checked the backpack? the school can go through a kids backpack. >> and not let them go back to class. >> because. factors are clear in this case, if you have a child with severe mental problems, doing things that allison outlined in that introduction, you don't allow him to have access to a gun. it is that simple. >> he was looking up ammunition during class time for his teacher saw him, his teacher called his mother, his mother then texted him, lol, i'm not mad at you, you have to learn not to get caught.

how can that mother not be culpable on some level? >> and them later saying ethan to do it but she knew. >> she knew something likely would happen. >> talking about this tragic situation that happened on wednesday there are 49 other states looking very closely at this. they are going to determine in each legislature, if this is successful, can we then do that as well. and, we could see this reverberate. everything happening statewide to determine trends is looking at them at to say okay, this is one state, what happens in five more states and ultimately the other 49? >> the prosecutor in this case did another unusual thing, he added a terrorism count to the charges against the shooter. we will see -- >> because he terrorized the school and those kids are traumatized. >> you don't see that very often in school shootings. >> we will keep an eye on this. is a fascinating case, thank you very much. one of the founders of the proud boys, who was supposed to address students at penn state university, tonight, but the event was canceled and we will

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penn state canceling an event tonight with proud boys founder gavin mcginnis. this was the scene, right here earlier tonight. this video was treated out by onward state news, that's a student run penn state new site. the university says it was fourth to take action because of the threat of escalating violence from protesters. you are seeing a bit of it there. let's bring in andy campbell, he's a author at huff post, he is the author of we are proud boys, how the right-wing

ushered in a new era of american extremism. why did penn state invite the founder of the proud boys? what do they think would happen on campus? >> it was a student group that invited them. but, penn state told students who were concerned about the proud boys coming to campus, that this was a speech issue but students told me, no, this isn't a speech issue, this is a school safety issue. gavin mcginnis has rules of violence for his gang. he says, the top level of the proud boys can only be achieved if you commit a significant act of violence for the cause. and so, they knew, coming in, that the cowboy the proud boys would be there, and they knew from students telling the administration that gavin mcginnis had been on a parade of violence with the proud boys for the last six years. and so, they knew something was going to happen, and clearly, you saw from that video, it did. multiple students and members of the media from proud boys

and their alleys allies. the violence did come and it was promised. >> it is unbelievable to think about the idea of not being able to anticipate that there would be, not only the protest, but the conflation to think that oh, this is an issue of cancel culture or first amendment rights, and the idea of having a market place of ideas take place in a school, but this is really completing the issue. it is not about trying to silence victims viewpoint, it is about trying to anticipate keeping the campus safe. >> in 2017, the administration banned richard spencer, he is a neo-nazi leader who helped foment unite the right, the neo- nazi rallies in charlottesville in 2017. the administration banned him, saying, we believe in the first amendment, here, but this is not a first amendment issue. the first amendment does not require us to bring violence on the campus. >> i don't understand why this choice is made. i certainly understand why college campuses would want conservative voices and want to book conservatives for campus,

but with a track record of violence? these are the guys who were behind the charlottesville rally where heather heier was killed. why would somebody with a track record of violence be had on campus? >> karen was a fellow a couple of years ago and i'm on the board for mild moderate universities of north carolina. having diversity of thought is, to speak to student leadership and so forth, but, you can do that, and not have these kinds of situations and frankly it is common sense that you would want to avoid these kinds of situations, because ultimately, if somebody really gets hurt, and we are sort of lucky that it was just ugly, that they did not go that extra level or two that we see happens often, colleges have to be mindful of this, because they will be the ones that get sued, they are going to be the ones that pay damages and ultimately, experience real reputational damage. >> let me show you. this was not a group where

people are not aware of violence being associated with them. and, the reason people know of the proud boys now is in part because of the history of violence. i want to show this screenshot here of when it was established in 2016. the idea of the unite the right rally we mentioned, in 2017, members clashing at nyu, new york city, then they have the role in january 6, as well, i want to show people dozens are facing criminal charges for the riot as well you have people who are communicating with the cowboys it seems, the infamous stanback and standby, people remember the proud boys, now, not in connection with making friendship bracelets. >> absolutely not. particularly given the footage we have seen over the last several weeks of the summer where we saw footage from january 6th, right there in

front of you, so, it is surprising that, again, free speech is critically important i'm a person who believes i always want to know where you stand because i know where you are and where i am. but at the same time, the safety concerns and the fact that the administration, the school administration does not recognize that just by letting him be invited, how did it get so far down until tonight that they finally canceled it. and, as you said, not expecting that there would be violence. >> who is the student group that thought it was a great idea to have the proud boys on campus? >> they are called uncensored america, they claim to be a nonpartisan student group, but they have had all sorts of abhorrent voices on, over the years, including miley annapolis, known as an online troll, and abhorrent bigot, students certainly did not like that one either. but, that went off without a hitch, now, with the gavin event, they knew violence was coming, but, the issue, here, is the normalization of political

violence in politics right now. this gang is embraced by a number of top gop officials. i spoke with roger stone from my book, trump confident, who told me he had been advising the problems politically for years. sir, you have this group that a lot of people believe are patriotic, are defenders of trumps politics, that is probably why penn state allowed this to happen. >> you make a great point about the idea that this same group has invited other controversial figures, we will call them, and then being allowed to actually speak and having the events go on. this qualitatively feels different, in the way that, i think you cannot simply dismiss it as a nation of cancel culture, or the idea of censorship. this qualitatively felt different. when you were seeing this unfold, or are you seeing some analogies to what was happening at some of the events they had known to be at?

>> absolutely. i brought forth student concerns weeks ago to the administration, and there is a speech issue and they chose a speech. certainly, when i saw that violence there, i was not surprised, because i had been covering these guys for six years, and that is what they do. it is in their rulebook. >> it does seem as though universities, and i agree, i don't think they should have been invited, but it does speak to the pressure that i think universities are feeling, being pushed, frankly from the right, about cancel culture, and being open to diverse voices. and i think that we have seen over the last few years, a number of campuses where they are really trying to struggle with that. >> i hear you. >> diverse voices are great. conservative voices are great. and controversies even okay. but violence should really be the dividing line. thank you very much for sharing your expertise about this. >> thanks for having me. >> so important to think about

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people around the world are joining in solidarity with iranian protesters. tens of thousands of gathered in berlin this weekend alone, holding up signs about freedom and women's rights. protest now entered their sixth week in iran, sparked by the death of a 22-year-old woman. mahsa amini for allegedly not adhering to the countries strict dress code. i want to bring in now, royal, author of a beginners guide to the american, for the beginners and the curious. as always, karen finney, i am glad that you are here and in this moment we are all watching and seeing this unfold, it is outrageous to think about what has transpired, and also inspiring, about the protest, inspiring from young women. >> i am so glad that you juxtaposed the two, next to each other, because it is terrifying and it is incredibly

thrilling and inspiring. i think it is the best thing that has happened to feminism in a long time. and one of the things that i was noticing last night, watching a segment about emmett till, i thought that mahsa amini is in some way the iranian emmett till. imagine emmett was from chicago, he traveled to mississippi. mahsa amini was from kurdistan and she traveled to toronto just for a short visit with family. she was totally innocent, as emmett was, and for reasons that are entirely irrational, she was stopped and been taken away, and then beaten up, in a van, and turned up dead a few days later. i think it is the degree of her innocence, and the fact that she could be anyone, she could be any woman, just as emmett till could have been any black

kid, she has become such a national figure, and i think that is what has moved people to come out into the streets. >> now so many of these other young women are risking their lives and protesting. something like 241 people have already been killed in the protest, so many women have been injured. how long can this go on? what is going to happen there? >> well, this is an interesting question, because usually, what has happened, or at least 43 years ago, when the first revolution in iran took place, in 1978 and 1979, the next phase of people coming out to the streets was national strikes. there have been strikes in the past few weeks, but, the regime immediately shuts down the strikes by arresting all of the strikers. so, the strikers are taken into custody, they have to pay huge bales in order to be released, and a bunch of other strikers are taken in.

so, we are dealing with a whole new set of rules, that certainly, iranians have in the past, i don't know what other revolution has been confronted with circumstances like this, where you cannot strike because you will be arrested. >> write. it strikes me that the headline we see on the screen are that people are joining in solidarity, certainly here in the united states, we do believe there should be an international focus on the rights of women as it relates to abortion in this country, for example or the women's march. i wonder if you feel that there has been the requisite level of attention paid to what has been happening in iran, or, is the world late to even realize the need? >> this is what i was hoping you would ask. because, i think it is a vital

question, that nobody's asking, and what is very shocking to me is that, it is the best news that could have happened to us. we had a country that has been our number one post-cold war enemy for over 40 years. for the past 20 years, we thought that the war with iran was imminent but it never happened. and now, suddenly, this enemy that was burning or flex, that called us the great satan, that seems to be the greatest threat against us the nation is coming out into the streets, saying our enemy is right here, they lied when they say it is america. and, they have no other ambition other than to overthrow their own government. and, i think, in some ways, washington is not ready for good news. i met with the top brass of the

state department, and you know, i said to everyone including the special envoy, robert malley, that what the iranian people want is a revolution. they wants to overthrow the regime. and, two days ago, he posted a tweet saying, the iranian people are asking for respect on the streets from the government, and i thought, but is not what i said. and that is not what the news coming out of iran is. >> so, what should the u.s. do? >> i think we ought to be doing everything and anything we can to support these people who are risking their lives. this is one of the most oppressive, horrific regimes on the face of the earth, what they do to women and anyone else who gets in their way is terrible. and, so, i am a little disheartened to hear that you had a meeting and came up short in your eyes because, i would hope that we would be encouraging people to throw off these oppressors, and have self-

government. i am not arguing that we roll in with the united states military, but i do think the united states is the light of the world when it comes to self- government. >> write. >> and, i think that, i imagine people on the streets there would like to know that we are as fully behind them as we can be. obviously iran is blaming us, i read they are thinking about suing the united states, claiming we are whipping up these protest. i think the protest are being whipped up by people who have had enough. and so they need to know that we know, and, i am glad you had that meeting. >> yeah. so, i was with hillary clinton in 1935 in beijing, china, where she said women's rights are human rights, and human rights are women's rights, and that is what i have been thinking whenever i watch the coverage on this, that these are women who, again, lauren, what you were saying, the fundamental right to control your body, your destiny, if you have an article of clothing on the wrong way, to think that

you could lose your life over that, there is an international struggle, i think that is part of it. women, still, as we know, here in the united states and around the world, we are paid less, there are so many inequalities, so i think there is such a sisterhood. i would not say, also, though, so many brave men out there joining the women, too, i want to acknowledge that., i do think that part of it is that basic call for freedom that people are relating to. >> thank you. thank you so much for being here, looking forward to having you on and talking about what is happening there. >> i am a huge fan of monday night football. i can tell you right now. in the games, but also, a surprise tonight. former president barack obama was part of monday night football. you heard me, i will ask blaine what he said next. >> yes, and who was playing i will also come up with that. how could you? ♪ so, rise above the misery.

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