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job. >> i hope to make sure that what i say to him makes sense and is the best possible advice. that's my job, is to help him think through what to do about this complicated world where we have so many wonderful opportunities as a country, but real threats also. that's my job. >> he was a profound thinker much he died suddenly of a heart attack and he was working until the very end. just last week he was meeting with people about new weapons systems being transferred to saudi arabia he feared was a risk given putin's friendship with the saudi crown prince. the former defense secretary ashton carter was only 68 years old. thanks so much for joining us. "ac-360" starts now. good evening. two weeks to go to the midterms, the race for the control of congress in key statewide offices across the country is
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change chang changing day by day. john fetterman and mehmet oz, their first and only debate just got underway. everett sturm pulled out of the race. quoting from his tweet announcing the decision, i am polling 3% which places democracy at risk. it's not clear what pennsylvania voters will make that have notion but it's one more thing for them to consider along with what they see from the two main candidates in race that could decide rcontrol of the senate ad perhaps congress the next two years. it's true that voters nationwide have more factors to weigh than most midterms, not just the economy or all the other domestic and foreign challenges at the moment. but things never seen before like armed civilians in camouflage lurking in polling places in pennsylvania or candidates they will only consider the outcome legitimate if they win. new reporting later on the voter
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intimidation as well as a conversation with a top arizona republican about the threat he sees to democracy. the latest polling on the issues driving voters. we begin, however, in pennsylvania. jeff is in harrisburg for us. you know the candidates and their campaigns well. what do you expect tonight and what should people be looking for? >> reporter: the debate has just gotten underway as you said. one of the things is john fetterman, the lieutenant governor of pennsylvania, making the case that he is fit to serve in the senate. that of course is because he has been recovering from a stroke since may, that he actually suffered days before winning the primary. he has been building speech and strength back. tonight he will be referring to questions through closed captioning. that is being explained to the audience right now why he is able to sort of see the printed questions and mehmet oz's answers. this is something that has been a big issue in this senate campaign. i am told it will not be as much of an issue tonight.
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the oz campaign is trying to move beyond that and talk about the differences in issues, particularly crime. crime has emerged as a central issue in this senate campaign as we have seen in others across the country, but particularly here in pennsylvania role as th lieutenant governor on the board of pardons. mehmet oz has been studying for weeks specific cases from the board of pardons to talk about at the debate this evening. on the other hand, the fetterman campaign is trying to remind voters of pennsylvania that mehmet oz won this primary by attaching himself to donald trump. he ran to the far right of his party since that primary in may, trying to move back to the middle. he has been trying to talk about working with both sides. the fetterman campaign believes they have an argument against calling him extreme. but, anderson, two weeks from tonight this race will be settled. it may take days after that to count all the votes, but the reason this race is so important is because it's currently held by a retiring republican senator, pat toomey. democrats believe they need this
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seat as they struggle in other races across the country like nevada, arizona, even georgia. incumbents are in tough races. so this race truly has become a critical piece of the puzzle for democrats trying to hold their majority and republicans trying to win it. >> and independent candidates dropping out of the race and supporting fetterman, does that shift things at all? >> reporter: we'll see. he was not much of a factor. he was not a widely known -- he was barely known. he was not even included in our poll that we did this week. he is throwing his support behind john fetterman. that could help fetterman. the raemtd is his name is already on the ballot. that could create some confusion. people could still vote for him if they are turned off by both of these candidates. important to point out, a half-million pennsylvania voters, more than that, have already cast ballots and more will do so every single day here. so the strategists i have been speaking with do not think this has much of an effect. in a tight race, which
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pennsylvania always has, of course, anything can make a difference. >> thank you. perspective now from abby phillips. also pennsylvania republican congressman charlie dent and david urban with us as well as dr. tara narula. the fetterman campaign has been trying to lower expectations saying fetterman is recovering from a stroke. last night senator klobuchar told me he was never the best debater to begin with. it's not uncommon for campaigns to do this. do you think voters will hold fetterman to a different standard given his medical condition? >> i think that remains to be seen. voters in pennsylvania seem to have been pretty forgiving of this situation from the beginning. it's been months now since fetterman suffered that stroke. he had been off the campaign trail quite some time and still came out of that period leading oz in the polls. it's just not clear to me how much the race is turning on the
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issue of fetterman's health, his recovery or turning on some of the other fundamentals, the economy and crime, and the fetterman campaign right now needs to find a way to reach independent voters who are at the moment, according to our polling at least, leaning towards oz, and that's likely not related to his health. it likely has much more to do with some of the bigger picture struggles that democrats are facing, which is rising inflation and a lot of attack ads, especially in the state of pennsylvania, on the issue of crime. >> what do we know about the cause of fetterman's stroke and the warning signs he experienced beforehand? frankly, is his brain -- how is his brain affected by it? >> to be clear, i don't treat him nor do i have access to his medical records. what we know based on what his doctors said, back in 2017 he was diagnosed with atrial
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fibrillation, irregular heart rhythm. he was not on blood thinning medications for many of those last years, which could have protected him from stroke. unfortunately, he suffered a stroke in may, was taken to the hospital where he underwent a thrombectomy. we do this? the settling of large vessels blocked by clots or a large area of the brain at risk. he spent nine days in the hospital. they also implanted a defibrillator, for patients who have reduced heart function or another tune of arrhythmia. the his cardiologist said he has a cardiomyopathy, a weakened heart muscle function. we don't know how reduced that is. as far as what area of the brain we, don't know right or left hemisphere. we know typically above average is in the left hemisphere for most people.
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and really what it appears he has is an afacia, which is a difficulty understanding or speaking. difficulty with language. and to be clear, anderson, this does not have an effect cognition. so the area of the brain that's supplied by that blood vessel is the area that's effected. it's the motor area, you lose function. if it's the speech area, that's where you have trouble. but that's totally separate from your ability to think, process data, understand or your intelligence. so i want to be clear about that. >> and david, you have been texting with dr. oz over the course of the campaign. as recently as last night. what have you told him you think he should do tonight? >> anderson, you know, i don't think this is going to turn so much on john fetterman's health. voters i think are concerned about john fetterman's positions. my advice to dr. oz is be compassionate, stick to the issues, because i think if he
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has a debate with the lieutenant governor about crime, about the economy, the issues that matter to voters, that he'll come out on top tonight and irregardless of the lieutenant governor's health. >> congressman dent, president trump won pennsylvania in 2016, lost it in the 2020 election. do you think fetterman plans to remind voters that the former president is backing dr. oz, is that smart? could it backfire? >> i think he probably should. i don't think it will make much of a difference. i think it comes down to john fetterman's positions. i think this issue of crime is really resonating within the commonwealth. john fetterman is going to have to explain himself tonight about why he has voted differently than the democratic attorney general, josh shapiro, running for governor on the board of pardons. they differed over 200 times on votes. i mean, fetterman has votes, you know, to release, you know, convicted murders. one guy who used a garden sheer
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to stab a victim 26 times and he voted to pardon him. he wrapped himself very closely to bernie sanders. you know, fetterman came out against fracking. in pennsylvania the second largest gas producing state in the country. that's a major issue. so i think fetterman has to kind of walk back some of these extreme positions he has taken, you know, look, we are all sympathetic to him because of his health, but he has to explain this. the question is we are watching to see how he comports himself. we will see how he does tonight with this closed captioning. i think this is a really important event tonight for fetterman. he has to prove he has the capacity to serve. >> anderson, as you pointed out earlier, too, you know, yesterday you had senator klobuchar on trying to downplay expectations. john fetterman when he was healthy was a terrible debater. if you look at the primary
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debates he had, he got his clock cleaned. so he's -- his debate performance tonight, you know, healthy or not healthy, is going to be viewed by voters very closely. >> i want to bring in harry enten with work- who has been looking at numbers. what issues are sticking out to voters in pennsylvania? >> take a look at this. this looks like a treasure trove. if i was mehmet oz, oh, fantastic, this is exactly what i want to run on. the very important issues to pennsylvanians midterm votes, top three issues, economy 82%, inflation 80%, crime which we have spoken about 67%. abortion is way down there at 56%. and i think when you look at this board, you get a very good idea why mehmet oz has been able to close and close and close in on john fetterman because the issues that are most important to pennsylvanians are the issues that mehmet oz has been running on. >> and harry, how important
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could this, you know, whether fetterman or oz determining who wins the senate control? >> this is the ball game, anderson. this is the ball game. you know, essentially, if you say, okay, if mehmet oz was t-- wins the election, what's the chance democrats win control. 25%. if john fetterman wins the odds flip to 75% that democrats win control of the senate. there is not another senate election in the country which is as important as the pennsylvania senate race. if you tell me who wins the pennsylvania senate race, i have a good idea who wins the control of the united states senate, and right now it's too close to call and i think that's why senate control overall at least as far as analysts such as myself are concerned is too close to call. >> abby, what stands out to you from the numbers? >> i think that harry is right, that when this race pivots back in oz's five, it's usually when the oz campaign, frankly, starts to discipline itself and focus on the things that matter the
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most to voters. the one curiosity about the pennsylvania race that i think we don't know how it's going to play out, fetterman's campaign has largely been waged on personality on culture, on whether he is the best fit for the state. he has been arguing that oz is not even from pennsylvania, that he doesn't understand pennsylvania voters, and to some extent that argument actually served him pretty well up until this point. and so i do wonder in some ways regardless of what transpires at this debate tonight how much are pennsylvania voters going to give fetterman the benefit of the doubt. not on the issues, but just on this idea that he is an unconventional figure and he is someone who knows the state better than perhaps oz does. >> yeah. interesting. appreciate it. next, what a top republican in arizona makes of voters in the state having to cast ballots with armed individuals watching them and these are not members of law enforcement we're talking
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any kind of intimidation. >> i am just sitting here. i am not communicating with them. i'm sitting right here. >> you know, seeing that, you would think you were in, you know, some autocrat i can nation and not the united states of america. >> last nate a retirees association and retirement association filed suit of violating the voting rights act. it claims, quote, coordinated campaign of vigilante voter intimidation. the two sides weretu in court this morning. the defendant's attorney failed to show. the hearing is now set for tomorrow. joining us to talk about this is arizona house speaker rusty bowers who broke with the former president and much of his party over the 2020 election and testified before the january 6th smith. i want to tartstart with your reaction to the woman we just saw essentially sit being armed
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folks who were out there at night. what does it say to you that arizona voters are even in this situation right now? >> well, a, good for her, you know? she showed chutzpah in droves. and that's what she should. and bad for them. you know, i'm a pro-gun guy, but that kind of stupidity just wedges the issue more and more and more. and then to combine that with being there on the days of the vote, when people are putting their ballots, i mean, i'm glad i don't sell brains. i'd be a millionaire. it's just -- there wasn't a lot of it. i know of two instances, two areas it happened, and it was wrong and it's just stupid. it's stupid. >> also, to be clear, just for voters who don't understand, there are cameras 24/7 on drop
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boxes. so these things are being -- >> by law now. >> right. it's by law. they are being monitored. there is video surveillance constantly of them and the idea that, i mean, look, an area people are allowed to sit, whatever. but the idea of sort of being, you know, visibly armed, it's, you know, it seems very strange and unnecessary. >> it's strange, you are being nice. >> yeah. >> if i'm walking -- it's like i go to the drugstore and i happened to carry my ar along with me, just doing regular things? no. it's obvious that you are there to make your statement about that we're here to protect the vote and only we can to it if we have an ar in our hands or whatever. i mean, again, i wish -- calm this stuff down for crying outloud. and good for that lady. i need to meet her sometime.
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i could use a little bit more of her spine. that's fun. >> but -- >> it hurts all the way across. >> you know better than most about election integrity and how does one fight the falsehood that is showing up armed is going to magically inspire confidence in elections? because, i mean, it certainly has an intimidation effect on a lot of people. i would be intimidated at night if somebody's armed where i'm dropping off a ballot. >> yeah. and i wouldn't blame you. but i know that the letter of the law is what they will claim. i'm just saying you don't need a letter of the law to be smart enough to know that you can go and sit there, you can say hello, you can use your video camera, you can video somebody. you don't have to have a gun strapped around your shoulder, across your chest. i mean, there is no excuse for it. and i just think it hurts both
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sides, the cause of both sides, and it's just stupid. >> it's also frustrating because there is no -- i mean, every recount, every audit, legitimate and ridiculous, have all shown the same thing. >> well, now we're starting to try to be logical. and -- >> you're right. [ laughter ] >> i have given up. when people start in on the steal thing, i said after this long you are still saying that we're going to rescind the 2020 election? you know, can we come back to earth? >> let me ask you, you received the profile and courage award at the kennedy library alongside congresswoman liz cheney. i want to play some of what she said about you that night. >> i just want to say a moment first about rusty bowers and his family and his story, and the
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grace and the compassion and the courage that they have shown is unmatched. and the lesson that he gave you tonight and that he has given us throughout is one that, as americans, we all benefit and are blessed by. so thank you very much. [ applause ] >> so, obviously, there are a lot of folks in this country who agree with those sentiments. she said she thinks if donald trump is the nominee in 2024 the party will fracture and a new conservative party will emerge. do you think that's true? >> that would be very sad, but i think it's possible. many, many people have told me, we supported and applauded the early successes of the trump administration before covid. and we could list them all off. but if he runs again, i hope he
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doesn't run again because i won't be able to vote for him. t divisiveness and fracturing, i can't -- they use those words. and i just can't vote for him. i want to get us back on track. it's just gone too far and they won't vote for him. hundreds of people with that sentiment over these last months. now, is that millions? no. but i think that represents a bunch of people. >> rusty bowers, always a pleasure to talk to you. thank you. >> my pleasure. truly. >> take care. be careful. some of the election denialism driving the suspicion about early voting coming for kari lake. there is something else in addition to that. it could be, by the candidate's own admission, which you will hear, put arizona on a collision course with the federal government. >> you guys turned out today.
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>> in the race for arizona governor, you hear this from republican nominee kari lake on her plan for border security. >> it's called our article 1, section 10, rights under the united states constitution. >> article 1, section 10, united states school shootings. we are going to invoke article 1, section 10, basically, authority to take care of our border. >> reporter: that border is an international border. so the federal government controls it. but she interprets the u.s. constitution to mean she could do this. >> as governor i will issue a declaration of invasion, finish president trump's wall, blow up the cartel's drug tunnels and surveillance drones and deploy the arizona national guard to stop illegals from entering. >> reporter: those ex employings and drones are computer generated fwrachks to illustrate her point. something echoed by fellow arizona republican and u.s. senate nominee blake masters,
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also using computer graphics in his ad. >> this is an invasion. we know what to do. we need to finish trump's wall. >> reporter: arizona state university law professor angela banks says the reason the nominees use the word invasion -- >> by declaring there has been an invasion they believe they would be able to exercise the federal powers that are articulated in article 1, section 10. however, the only specific power relevant for states to engage in would be the power to engage in war. >> reporter: a minor detail that kari lake skips on the campaign trail. >> if you have been following mme for one second, i am going to declare an invasion on day one, hour one. i don't care if we have to fight the federal government and the fake news every step of the way. >> reporter: that hard-line stance is popular among the republican base in arizona, a
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border state that has seen the influx of migrants and drugs. outgoing republican governor ducey deuce moved more than 100 shipping containers to try to plug holes in the border over the summer. a move that has landed his action in court. and that's where lake's constitutional plan would likely end up. >> tis this more political rhetoric or does this legally seem feasible to you? >> so i think this is a lot of political rhetoric and so i think what we're seeing is an effort to turn that rhetoric that has been used in the public discourse into something legally meaningful and i think that is where there are significant questions as to whether that will be successful. >> reporter: well, lawyers say never say never. legal experts have been surprised at the shift in the way courts have looked at immigration. now, if a governor, kari lake, is sketch on this, not just in
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po policy but in the courts, it would change the way courts view immigration and also, anderson, the very definition of what it means with america being the land of immigrants. anderson. >> appreciate it. >> cnn exclusive on theert to get two top former white house lawyers to talk their conversations with the former president on or around january 6th. the latest on that. what have you learned about who the justice department is looking to speak with and the complications it could pose for the former president? >> well, anderson, the justice department what is trying to compel them to go before a grand jury investigating the events surrounding january 6th and answer questions about their interactions with former president trump. these two men were both top lawyers in trump's white house counsel's office. they refused to answer certain questions about advice and interactions about trump and trump has been trying to fight them from providing those
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answers. cited attorney-client privilege, executive privilege, and this is playing out behind the scenes. it gives you an indication how much information the justice department wants, particularly about people's interactions with trump, and how much trump wants to try to fight these folks from providing that information to prosecutors. >> yeah. thanks. ahead, the economist and former clinton and obama official who predicted the sharp rise in inflation. larry summers joins us for a discussion about what he is hearing about how to fight it and whether or not he sees a recession coming. powerful relief so you can restore and recovever. theraflu hot beats cold. every call you make is being recorded. and you're being followed. we're looking into sexual harassment in hollywood. specifically harvey weinstein. you're scared. anyone would be. the only way these women are gonngo on the record is if ey all jump together.
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a top concern for many voters. in pennsylvania according to that cbs poll he showed us 28% of voters said the economy was important, 80% inflation, beating crime, guns, abortion issues. my guest is a former treasury department secretary. lawyer layer was warning about the dire prospects of inflation after president biden assumed office. now he is making a new prediction. it's more likely than not we will have a recession next year. joined by laylarry summers. thanks for joining us. you have been -- we have been talking about the impact the economy has had on how voters
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cast their ballot. have you heard anything in policies proposed by republicans or democrats that you think would help bring down inflation? >> i don't think anybody is going to be able to do much that's going to affect it in the short run. i think over time the federal reserve has very substantial capacity to contain inflation. i think there is some things we could do like promoting the permits for accessing oil, like increasing capacity in pipelines, like making it easier to site renewables, like taking down tariffs, like adjusting other kinds of regulations that, over time, would make our economy a bit more able to supply thing, a ibit more flexible and that would contribute to reducing inflation. think the most important thing is the decisions that are going to be made by the federal
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reserve and, frankly, the unfortunate policy decisions that were made during 2021 and the bad luck we've had with the ukraine war and other developments. so it's all a complicated picture. we're probably going to have a certain amount of inflation for some time to come. >> do you believe a recession is inevitable? >> you know, i think you should never in economics make a statement with complete certainty. but i think the likely thing is that we will have a recession. we don't have any experience with soft landings from high inflation without recessions. and i don't think there is anything in this particular pattern of events right now to suggest that that's something that's terribly likely. so i think the economy is likely sometime in the next year, year and a half, to go into recession, unfortunately. >> do you have a sense of how
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long that may be? >> i think it's not going to be a recession like the financial crisis was. it's not going to be a recession where millions and millions of people are going to be laid off in a month like took place during the pandemic. i think the kind of recession we had when the dot-com bubble burst in the year 2000 is probably a way to think about it. i would expect the unemployment rate to get near 6%. i would expect it to stay elevated perhaps a couple of years. >> what concerns you most right now in terms of the economy? >> it's probably this phenomenon of trying to deal with overheating that we have at the same time that you are also trying to manage the economy so
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that you maximize what output we are producing and maximize the number of people who have jobs. it's probably the difficulty of finding that balance, is what worries me most for the u.s. economy. i also worry that i think we're in a period of increased financial vulnerability relative to where we were some time ago, and that as interest rates rise, warren buffett of a picturesque example. he said when the tide goes out, you start to see who is wearing a bathing suit and who isn't. and something a little like that is happening in the financial sector as we have the strains associated with higher interest rates. but there is no real alternative. if we're going to avoid the kind
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of catastrophes we had in the 1970s that caused people to lose faith completely in government and ultimately led to the really very brutal recession of 1981 and 1982 with the unemployment rate crossing 10%. >> appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, cnn's fred pleitgen on the front lines in ukraine near this russian occupied city of kherson with a look at a targeting team which ukraine believes is preparing for retreat. and video from the students in iran who dare to stand up ar five weeks of bloody protests where hundreds died. more from the video when we return. nina has a plan based on what matters most t to her. and she can simply focus on r right now. that's the planning effect. from fidelity.
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that's why pediatricians urge you to vote yes on prop 31. it stops the sale of dangerous flavored tobacco and helps protect kids from nicotine addiction. please vote yes on 31. vote yes on prop 31. say russian forces are preparing defensive positions in a potential retreat in the south including the officials as laying mines on the dnipro river. cnn cannot independently confirm the ukrainian military's claim. fred pleitgen has an up-close account of the battle on the front lines. >> reporter: en route to the front in one the most active areas of the brutal war in ukraine. with a rocket artillery team taking aim at vladimir putin's forces.
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they are called carlton and use light trucks with missile pods mounted on the bed. the rockets carry a message of retribution. this one signed on behalf of a fallen soldier. from the witch, it says. >> translator: a vehicle is very effective. we can set up quickly, fire and get away again. >> translator: now they are aiming at russian positions several miles away. but russia's artillery is also dangerous and could fire back fast. it's not safe, he screams. >> we have to get out of here. we have to get out of here as fast as possible. the russians may target this position after they got hit by the salvo from our rockets. >> reporter: their key to accuracy comes from the air.
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the drones scopes out the target and then watches as the artillery hits a russian military repair shop, the unit says. >> translator: we are the eyes of the unit. we do reconnaissance and make sure the targets hit. >> reporter: the russians are under such pressure, they've started evacuating tens of thousands of people from kherson and the ukrainians believe moscow is making its unfounded claims about kyiv preparing to use a so-called dirty bomb because russia's troops are pinned down in this area. the commander believes it's a matter of time before they oust vladimir putin's army from here. >> translator: by the end of the year, we believe kherson will be under ukrainian flags. >> reporter: and they hope their unit will make a small difference in the battle for kherson. fred pleitgen, cnn in the
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kherson region, ukraine. from iran we have new video, some students doing what what was once unthinkable. heckling a top government official. >> this was reportedly at tehran's university of technology monday. le demonstrators were reportedly chanting "get lost" during a news conference, forcing the government spokesman to end early. social media also shows students in another protest calling the same official a murderer. the video comes after more than five weeks of protests following the death of the young woman detained by iran's morality police. human rights -- iran human rights, an organization based in norway, 234 people have been killed, th29 of them chern.
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tonight, more companies are cutting ties with rapper kanye west over his comments anti-semitic in the recent weeks. adidas finally ended its deal after coming under intense pressure to tack action. the company saying in a statement it does not tolerate anti-semitism and any other hate speech. forbes says the deal was worth $1 billion and says with the loss of it it knocks west after its list. his rhetoric is inspiring public bigotry. anti-deaf nation league saying that anti-semitic incidents were at an all-time high last year. the group pointed that out to a letter in west next week.
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joining a mow, the see -- do you think west being dropped by corporate partners is enough considering the type of comments he's made? did it surprise thaw adidas took this long? >> yeah. i mean, as the saying goes, anderson, better late than never. i mean, as you recall, after kanye wore that white lives matter t-shirt a few weeks ago, adidas announced their partnership was "under review". my reaction was day after day when he spouted the most vicious, vile anti-semitic threats, spouted conspiracy theories claiming that zionist y jew s were out to get him, adidas, what else do you need?
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when anti-semitic incidents are at an all-time high, when jewish people feel a danger, this kind of rhetoric with someone of his platform, someone with his global following is dangerous. that's why adl launched our campaign last week, run away from hate. i poke to senior leadership in germany. we engaged their investors, sent almost 20,000 emails to the company, pull in the celebrities, and i was glad finally today they made the decision they did. >> i don't know if it was yesterday for day before that, but kanye west actually said that he could say -- he actually said -- i'm paraphrasing because i don't have it in front of me, he could say any kind of anti-semitic stuff and adidas would continue to stay in business with him. >> that's what he said, anderson. he went on broadcast. he did podcasts. he did, you know, tiktok and youtube and instagram, and of
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course he was on twitter. and his most recent comments were, i can say anti-semitic blank and adidas can't do anything to me, so now what? and i think now we know what. adidas said we won't do business with bigots, and so the balenciaga, creative artists, mrc. if you go to gap and look up their yeezy product line, it's gone, anderson. as if it never existed. while we talked on your show before, i'm someone who believes notes in cancel call culture, but counsel culture. there needs to be consequences and kanye learned that the hard way. >> it's also sickening to see a group of, you know, people on an overpass walkway in los angeles with a sign supporting kanye west and doing a neo-nazi
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salute. when we saw those people with their tikki torches chanting jews will not replace us in charlottesville, which was so shocking. like, who are these people? there are people in l.a. they're all over the place. >> that's the reality, it is all over the place. we see in 2021 nearly triple the number of anti-jewish acts of harasment, vandalism and violent. we had a 300% increase, and there's a through line from charlottesville to pittsburgh to poway to collieville, texas. when people with platforms, whether it's the president of the united states or a member of congress or a hip-hop artist like kanye west with these huge followings, when they spout hate, it gives a license to other haters. so whether it's white
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supremacists or radical anti-zionists, we've got to call out all of this kind of hate, no matter where it comes from. >> jonathan greenblatt appreciate your time. the police commissioner said monday's deadly high school shooting could have been worse if not for a quick reaction by officers. he said the gunman who killed two people injured several others. he also left a note in his car writing, quote, i don't have any friends, i don't have any family. i've never had a girlfriend. i've never had a social life. i have been an isolated loner my entire life. a teacher was killed. she was 61 years old. her daughter says she was looking forward to retiring in just a few years. also killed student alexanderia bell just weeks before her 16th birthday. any questions, chris? all good, thanks maura! there you go, one new inhaler!
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