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jake tapper starts now. >> i interviewed elizabeth alexander a few months ago. she's lovely. interesting you got her to open up. >> gave the first poetry reading she read a poem aft barack obama's first inaugural. >> yeah, she's wonderful. i'm sure this is an obvious one, but have you -- i assume you've reached out to the white house, because president biden losing his son, losing his wife and young daughter back in the '70s, that would be very moving. i once had a very long off the record conversation with him about it, and he's -- that's one of his -- that's one of the subjects that he is most human and authentic. >> yeah, he's obviously experienced incredible loss and speaks on it well. yeah, that would be a good conversation. thanks, jake. >> all right, anderson. welcome to cnn tonight. i'm jake tapper in washington. tonight we are just two weeks away from the critically important midterm elections and

i have been talking to strategists and pollsters from both parties today to try to get a sense and share with you what they think the lay of the land is right now. allow me to be your guide as we take a look at what they think is going on out there. because earlier this month, you might remember, we told you how president biden's pollster coined this election head winds versus head cases. the head winds in his view, challenging the democrats. majority disapproval of president biden, high inflation, possible recession among other fact force. the head cases hindering republicans, what republican senate leader mitch mcconnell referred to as candidate quality issues. that's republican candidates with limited appeal or various scandals, creating challenges in races that theoretically they should be running away with. but those head wind, they teem seem to be achanging and getting stronger and the politicos who whom i spoke to today agree now

a modest red wave at the very least seems to be building. best estimates put republicans at picking up 25 seats. they only need to win five to flip the house for congressman kevin mccarthy to come house speaker kevin mccarthy. how worried are democrats? just today biden directed the democratic committee to transfer another $18 million to help house and senate democrats in their races. that include a high profile race in new york featuring the head of the democratic congressional campaign committee, a member of house lip. the dccc is so worried about it own chairman, sean patrick maloney, that the dccc is throwing another $600,000 in the race to defend him. that alone for at democrats is alarming. but when democrats are concerned about house seats in new england, that is a flashing red light. first lady jill biden heads to rhode island tomorrow to help a democratic house candidate

there. vice president kamala harris visited connecticut earlier this month to help a house democratic candidate there, and republicans are reportedly now recommitting money in new hampshire to try to unseat democratic senator maggie hassan. continuing our trip now through the political landscape, let's go visit my home commonwealth of pennsylvania. tonight the two senate candidates in that race spar in the their first and only debate. democratic lieutenant governor john fetterman versus republican candidate mehmet oz. >> i'm also having to talk about something called the oz rule, that if he's on tv, he's lying. >> john fetterman takes everything to an extreme, and those extreme positions hurt us all. >> now, this race looked like a slam dunk victory for fetterman earlier this summer and not just because at 6'8", he towers over dr. oz. >> people have been trying to label me my entire life. i do not look like a typical

politician. i don't even look like a typical person. >> since then, the polls have tightened. they seem to be basically within the margin of error right now. and while oz has been out memed on social media by fetterman, who paints the long time new jersey resident as a phoney and a quack, fetterman has been hit with millions of dollars of campaign ads attacking him on tv for being soft on crime. >> john fetterman's record on crime is crazy. >> john fetterman supports decriminalizing dangerous drugs like fentanyl and heroin. >> fetterman's ideas are radical, deadly, and wrong. >> and for pennsylvanians and those in the tristate area you will soon likely see more tv ads just like those, because today the top republican superpack announced they're going to throw $6 million into the race. now it's possible dr. oz could

become senator oz, even though he has a net negative favorability rating in pennsylvania. more people disapprove of him there than approve of him. quite a big gap at that. let's turn west now. let's go from pennsylvania to america's dareiryland, in a sene race in which momentum seemed to shift towards the gop, again work republicans attacking the lieutenant governor mandela barnes for being soft on crime. a "washington post" analysis found republicans spent tens of millions of dollars more attacking democrats on crime than on inflation. now, just two months ago, democrats were confident that barnes would be able to knock off wisconsin senator ron johnson. now the race is a tossup. people i spoke to today think ron johnson probably has a slight edge, but the democratic finger pointing has begun. >> the national party totally failed us, so it's going to come

down to wisconsin democrats. people are hitting their heads against the wall. how did we let this happen? >> over a thousand miles away, let's go to arizona. republican heavyweights trying to boost blake masters against mark kelly. kelly, it is believed, may have a slight edge, but that race, too, is tightening. in the last two weeks, former vice president mike pence and senator rick scott of florida, the head of the republican senate arm has flown in to campaign with masters. the next leg is to navigate the roadblocks that stand between democrats and electoral success. >> what is happened in the last two months that has changed this race? >> well, i think inflation. i mean, everybody's feeling it in their pocketbook. >> that is the number one concern for americans right now in yet a new poll from monmouth says 63% of americans believe president biden is not paying enough attention to the issues that matter most to them.

that may be part of the reason why democrats are also starting to face structural problems with various racial minorities, groups that they have been able to rely upon for electoral support in the past -- blacks, latinos, asian americans, pacific islanders. groups that are starting slowly but surely to peel away from automatically supporting democrats. one poll shows that hispanics' support for democrats in congressional races dropped by about 13 points since the 2016 and 2018 elections. now, 13 points, that might not sound like much to you, but ep if just a sliver of minority voters passed a ballot for republicans or stay at home, that could be in these tight races enough to hand republicans a victory. and voter enthusiasm for democrats, among democratic groups and demographics, right now that appears a real challenge, as senator bernie sanders told me two days ago.

>> i am worried about the level of voter turnout among young people be working people who will be voting democratic. i think what we've got to do is contrast what a strong pro worker democratic position is with the corporate agenda of the republicans. so. >> so, the head winds are discouraging those voters from voting democratic, and among key swing voters, democrats who control the white house, house, and senate, they're being held responsible for the state of the nation. democrats have everything -- everything -- to lose. so here is where on our midterms tour you would expectwell bump into the face of the party, president joe biden. no one would fault you for assuming biden is right now out there blitzing the country, rallying in every single battleground state along with bruce springsteen and bon jovi and jay-z trying to protect his majority. the reality is, he's not, not in

pennsylvania where the famous son of scranton has roots. as of now, democratic candidates in pennsylvania do not seem to want him there, which make it all the more challenging for biden and his party to buck historical trends. because history shows that the party in power tends to lose seats in the midterm elections. for george w. bush in 2006, he took a thumping. >> this is a close election. if you look at race by race, it was close. the cumulative effect, however, was not too close. it was a thumping. >> for barack obama in 2010, despite star studded rallies, he took a shellacking. >> i'm not recking for every future president to take a shellacking like i did last night. >> a thumping, a shellacking. i'm not sure what gerund joe biden might break out, stomping perhaps. but if biden acknowledges a

walloping it's not as if it would be unprecedented. the past is not lost when it comes to something else as your election guide i have to warn you, watch out. this is unchartered territory. first election since donald trump convinced a huge swath of the u.s. election system is rigged. it's a false charge, but it led to a bloody insurrection, and this time around we're seeing big signs of potential trouble. candidates in key races across the country continue to lie to voters about the 2020 election. these are in some cases the same people who will be in charge of certifying the recommendation results if they win. the list includes secretary of state candidates in nevada. in arizona, kari lake. that could become a huge prop in 2024 if they get elected and continue to square allegiance to trump's lies instead of the u.s.

constitution. another issue now, not in 2024 but now, these allegations of voter intimidation we're hearing. intimidation by vigilantes. last friday, two individuals dress in the tactical gear were spotted at a ballot drop box in mesa, arizona. also in the grand canyon state, a group calling itself clean elections usa, accused of stalking ballot boxes, taking photos of voters' license plates. this is impacting mostly, we're told, latina voters and in particular, the elderly. seniors often prefer a ballot dropoff to having to stand in long lines according to a lawsuit filed by those voters. yerkt clean actions usa used at least one voter, perhaps your average grandma, of being a mule. a mule is a reference to a fringe voter fraud conspiracy that was amplified in the latest

maga propaganda film, the widely discredited, fact-challenged "2,000 mules." >> now we come to the most important question of all -- was the nag any attitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election? >> it's not a leap to say this would have made a difference. >> it's not a leap, it's just a lie. it's just a huge lie. how full of crap is it? well, they had to pull the "2000 mules" book before it went on sale, rewrite it presumably to avoid legal action. in the 2020 election and 2022 midterms, there is no credible evidence of mules. there is credible evidence of jackasss. now, this is just what the terrain look like right now, and it is hard to know what it all might mean. the u.s. is also currently seeing record numbers for early

voting. more than 9 million americans have already cast their ballots. is that good for democrats? is it good for republicans? one thing we can assert is it's good for democracy. it's good for the republic. there is something motivating americans to drop what they're doing, stand in line, and participate in a midterm election. regardless of what experts are predicting right now, whether they're relying on polling or turnout data, inflation, whether they're reading animal entrails, as always, you, the american people, you get the final say. now, we're about to tap into the brain of a former lone wolf in the republican party, an independent mind, congressman justin amash, famously left the republican party over trump and trumpism. he was the first republican lawmaker to back impeachment. and as a hard right freedom caucus member at the time. amash fired the warning shot years ago saying our politics, our partisanship was in a partisan death spiral. what does he make of today's

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with the midterm elections just two weeks away today, many voters are now retreating into their left corner and right corner but it's the folks in the middle, swing voter who is don't fit notely and democratic or republican labels that often end up determining the outcome of key races. case in point, justin amash. he was the founding member of the house freedom caucus, the first member to come out against trump during his first impeachment. he decided to leave the republican party, became an independent, left congress and became a libertarian. what does justin amash make of the state of the politics of the november elections?

former michigan congressman justin amash joins me now live in studio. good to see you. when you left the republican party in 2019, quote, i've become disenchanted with parly politics and frightened by what i see. two party system developed into a threat to american principles and institutions. two years later do you feel that same way still? >> yes, absolutely, and i don't think anything changed structurally to make it better. the you look at what president biden, speaker pelosi, and if you look at what republicans are doing, it's the same dysfunction, the bipartisanship. it doesn't work the way our constitution was designed. >> what would need to happen? do you think the parties are being pulled too far to the extremes? do you think there needs to be less gerrymandering? what changes. >> with respect to gerrymandering, if you had

ranked choice voting i think that would help. but i do think you need structural reforms in congress, and really that can only be handled at the top, someone like speaker pelosi or whoever the speaker of the house is, kevin mccarthy, who i don't think will do this, needs to decentralize the congress. right now it's take it or leave it and i think that leads to performative politics. when you can't debate policy you debate personality and it happens all time. >> when people are watching tv ads that say, congressman jones voted with nancy pelosi 99% of the time, honestly, the kinds of the votes that happen in congress are pretty baked in. most people vote 95% with their party, it seems. >> yeah. when i first got to congress, we had more votes on the floor, more amendment votes. we were able to participate.

members today can't offer amountedments on the house floor that will be taken up. the leadership basically says, you have to send it to the rules committee, they're going vet and it decide if you can have a vote on it. there are few amendments on the floor, and that mean you don't goat differentiate the members of congress much. >> or improve legislation. >> or improve legislation. when i got in there, you might have 100 amendments on a meese of legislation. some people think that's too much buck what's nice is you goat know who your member of congress is. you get to discover the outcome, represent people. you all get in there. you have this just giant pie of material, and then you put it together and see what comes out. >> you live in michigan, battleground state, lot of kpi races. the governor's race is competitive. what do you sense? you heard my monologue earlier talking about how it seems right now democrats and republicans feel as though republicans are probably going to have a pretty

good night in two weeks what are you picking up out there? >> that's any -- i think the republicans will take the house. senate is a close call, but it seems increasingly they might take the senate as well. i'm not sure this is a good thing for republicans in the long run, especially for kevin mccarthy if he's speaker of the house. >> why in. >> if you have a small majority -- it could a marginal within for republicans, in other words they have a 10 or 15 seat majority. the that's the case, then you have a few members of the house who will basically be able to dictate the process to kevin mccarthy, which could be good for the overall flow of the house. might open things up, but it's going to make kevin mccarthy's job miserable. >> and kevin mccarthy, not somebody that you have a tremendous regard for his leadership skills. >> right, not someone i admire. i think he's basically craven.

i think his goal in life is basically to empower himself. i've seen him go through congress not knowing what he's talking about, switching policy positions on a dime. we saw that with president trump where one day he's saying president trump is responsible for january 6th. another day he's saying trump is great and he's not responsible. so, you know, he's a guy who's about himself, and i think that's really bad for congress. with you when you lock at how congress functioned under pelosi or speaker ryan or boehner, it's been a closed off place for a long time. if we don't fix that you're going to keep having people like mccarthy. >> i want to talk about the debate in your home state between whitmer be the republican nominee, tudor dixon. let's listen to a quick snippet. >> she refuses to accept the outcome of the last election. she has not yet said she'll accept the outcome of the next election. when she says she accepts the

will of the people, she is an election denier and never said that joe biden actually won this last election. >> i would like to comment on gretchen whitmer and her demeanor tonight coming after me, calling me an election denier. we know that this is going to be the way the evening goes. but i'm wondering when she will say she can't run with lieutenant governor garland gilchrist anymore, because i believe he is also an election denier. >> all right, just to bring people some facts here, tudor dixon is referring to a 2017 detroit city clerk race. and it's true, whitmer's governor asked for a recount. after the recount, he accepted the results, ambassador entirely different from tudor dixon who said she doesn't believe joe biden won the presidency in 2020. this is a sickness. >> i think it's a problem, but democrats keep handing them

ammunition, so i think that's also -- >> how so? >> you do have people like stacy abrams and others over the years who have said things, and they'll latch on to anything. even if there's a little bit, the republicans are going to latch on to it. it's partisan politics. it's not the same degree, not the same level. might be a few in the democrat party and republican party, unfortunately what happens if one party gives them a little bit, they'll say, you're just like us. there's no difference. we're trying to defend democracy the same way you are. >> dixon is one of nine candidates on the ballot in michigan that questioned the outcome of the election, including nominees for secretary state and attorney general. i know you, and i thought you were an interesting legislator. you're successor, peter meyer, the same. what's going on in the republican party in michigan in i guess it's the same thing that's going on nationally. >> it's the same thing everywhere. when you look at peter meyer's recent race, he came close to

winning, right? it wasn't like a blowout by the trump backed candidate. so i think there is a possibility, an opening for people to move this back in the right direction in select places in the country. no everywhere -- maybe west michigan is very different from a loft other places in the country. but i don't think it's a wholesale everywhere trump backed candidates are going to win, and you saw that in places like georgia as well and other races where there are some nontrump-backed candidates who have succeeded. >> good to see you, justin amash, glad you're getting to spend more tame with your family. want to see a shake in the world? do like iran, they're rising up. do not by flinging food at famous masterpieces. the powerful and the pointless, when we return.

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name calling and baseless accusations, trolling, smearing. it does seem as though political debates too often exist at the intellectual level of an infant, making a mess with food in order to get attention. so perhaps it's not surprising to see protests about a very important issue reduced to this. over the weekend a pair of

german protesters threw mashed potatoes at claude monet's painting in potsdam. earlier tomato soup was thrown on vince sent van gogh's. when there's no museum around, the supermarkets milk case seems to work. these so-calls milk pour stunts are becoming more common across the uk. the painting are all covered in glass, so they're all fine big spare a thought for the grocery clerk who had to clean up the milk. all this about the role of fossil fuel and climate change. if you put that together on your own, congratulations. spectacle length served a purpose in protest, from naked women showering in the streets to a man with a sign climbing

buildings, even a giant inflatable trump baby balloon. admittedly, some tactics were better than others. but this isn't a suffragette slashing a painting. that was about how men views women in art. and it's not the sons of liberty tossing tea into boston harbor. the objective in those cases went beyond a viral moment of course. that requires convincing people, mobilizing them to demand action. we see that right now in iran, people out in the streets doing the hard work of protesting, of organizing, channelling the frustrations into what is now six weeks of protests. i'm not saying protests have to be nice or polite, but the goal should theoretically be about change. applying pressure to officials in power, convincing the public

of a wrong that needs to be righted. the murder of george floyd enraged people crass this country. they took to the streets, made their voices heard. while the slogan that emerged, defund the police, was is and counterproductive and damaging to the cause nationally, substantive retomorrows passed on the local level. the movement worked. more than a dozen cities increased funding for community programs such as supportive housing, violence prevention. voter went to the brake light and increased oversight in red and blue states. more than 30 states enacted policing reforms through their legislatures. soup smearing, i don't know. they're promising now more of these stunts. climate protests over the years prompted real substantive changes in public opinion, in laws. and that's the thing -- the kids smearing food on art right now, they're right about the planet,

but their approach is lazy, it's sloth. they're just attacking what's available. it's only slightly more of an effort than tweeting out a hashtag. and it's far more polarizing. they're exacting. they're inciting no change. another attention seeking fail, the artist formerly known as kanye west in a moment a good idea to rebrand yourself at an anti-semimite. even more companies cutting ties with him today, an opportunity for us to keep shining a light on hate. that's next. helping them achieve financncial freedom. wewe're proud to serve people everywhere, in investing for the retirement they e envision. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive.

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growing fallout tonight for ye, the artist formerly known as kanye west after his string of recent anti-semitic remarks. today, adidas, which produces the popular yeezy shoe line says it's ending the partnership. foot locker pulling products. gap doing the same after ending it partnership with ye last month. corporate america taking action, and it's clear his anti-semitism is having an impact them weekend a hate group displayed this banner on an interstate overpass in los angeles. it reads cokanye is right about the jews.

another sign read, quote, hank if you know. a number of people raised their arms in a nazi salute. let's talk to the ceo and president of the -- also actress and host of the "we need to talk podcast". what went through your mind when you saw the images of the hate group in your city, heiling hitler over the 405? >> the jewish community is on edge. this incident is not the only incident of anti-semitism. there have been leaflets dropped on doors. we are feeling a bit on edge right now. we're feeling a little uncomfortable here in los angeles. -- >> -- hate groups have to do with the fact that he's a black man peek speaking out against

jews. >> sorry, you went out a little bit. >> sorry. do you think part of the reason that white hate group in los angeles is making hay out of kanye west's remarks is because he's black and this is about dividing minority groups? >> i think that does definitely play a part into it, and i think that they are using his blackness as a way to affirm their hate. and i don't think that kanye realizes he's being used. i think it is disappointing to see, and it's frustrating. it's frustrating as a black woman, as a black person in america to see somebody being used to further white supremacist ideology. >> rabbi, in 2016 adidas called it the most -- between a nonathlete and brand. adidas says they're going to

lose $246 million after severing the relationship. what's your thought on adidas taking this action? how important is it do you think for corporations to take actions despite the fact that it's against their bottom line. >> i think it's incredibly important. we can put a number on it like $246 million like you said, but the truth is, we can't put a number on hate itself. and as you said earlier, the whole point of trying to divide us as a historically marginalized community in this country, that has been a tool of white supremacy in this country for hundred of years. we're not going to stand for that. we're going to come together and try to move beyond this moment and try to build a city that lis up to our namesake. >> and yet melinda, i have to say, i did not hear much of an outcry anywhere after alabama

republican senator tommy tuberville a few weeks ago made a racist statement in which he seemed to suggest democrats support crime, democrats support reparations because they want that money to go to the people committing the crime. in other words, he was saying blacks are responsible for all crime. tuberville said this at a rally. i don't think there's been any price he's paid. >> that's interesting, because i wasn't even aware of those comments as well. and i think that because kanye's in a position he's in, he's going to get more backlash than someone like tuberville. that's news to me he was saying that. i wasn't aware of the comment he is made. >> earlier this month, the republican on the house judiciary committee, they tweeted kanye, elon and trump. seemingly a show of support for all three men. but since that tweet, kanye went on his latest anti-semitic rant.

are you surprised the tweet hasn't been taken down at all? >> i'm not surprised, because one thing i have noticed about the republican party is they will fall in line with each other no matter what they are standing for. i think if the goal is to support kanye, support trump, and support elon, no matter what they say or do, then that tweet is going to remain up, absolutely. >> rabbi, another recent comment that was criticized by the andy defamation league was something trump posted on his social media site. no president has done more more israel. u.s. jews have to get their act together and appreciate before it's too late. i don't know what that means. he called them disgusting. what do you think? >> i think no matter who says without what's and who is the person that is a spousing view like that, we as a jewish

community and a historically marginalized community have to stand up to hate. that's what's going to make america different than other countries is when group like ours, groups like jews, african americans, latinos, and api and those who have been left out stand up and say, we're just not going live this way. we're going to build a city that's better than we found it. i think that needs to be the core of how we move forward out of this moment, out of the kanye moment, and into whatever the future holds for us. >> all right, thank you. good to have both of you on. appreciate your comments tonight. there's also a lot of good in the world, peep who champion gender diversity, equality, such as my next guest, a scientist we the truly remarkable hobby. prepare to be inspired. it's coming up.

how many female scientists can you name off the come to mind. but there are so many other names worth knowing in the field of tam, that science technology engineering and math. stem is an area where women are

historically under represented, often discriminated against, such as mathematician gladys west whose work was key to making gps technology possible. or a mitra, who reveled eyes -- dental procedures around the world. or entomologist to seek orbit who was at the forefront of the moderna covid vaccine. these are on some stem via volunteers, relatively unsung, who didn't even have a wikipedia page. their achievements, however, are now being highlighted thanks to a another notable scientists, jessica wade, a british physicist and advocate for women in stem. she's written more than 1700 wikipedia pages for female and minority scientists or the last five years. she's also the author of the children's book nanna which introduced readers to the tiny building block that make up the world around us. and jess wade joins us now. jess, talk me back to 2017 when

you wrote your first wikipedia page entry. what prompted you to do it in the first place, and why wikipedia? >> i love the idea of telling the stories of incredible scientists and engineers who made discoveries. and i love the idea of translating those stories on a platforms where people read them. what are the young people, their parents, their teachers, whether they're someone sitting in their university classroom and i just want to find out about that pioneer who made that breakthrough. i love that they're swirling around on the internet, and they land on this biography, and they realize, hey, it's somebody who's just like me, it's someone for my hometown, they want my university. so, i think wikipedia is a really powerful platform for that storytelling, and also to give people their credit for making these incredible discoveries and contributions to our understanding of the world. >> there's so many girls and women around the world who are still being told that science is not for them, matt is not for them. do you think raising the profile of these unsung female scientists, you think that will

inspire them? >> i hope it does a little bit of the inspiring part. i hope it does a lot of giving people credit where credit is due. we do not only not get enough people in the, science but we don't do enough of a good job celebrating the ones we have. so, we don't document their incredible discoveries or their groundbreaking contributions to science or innovation or engineering. so i hope we do some of the inspiring. i think we rely heavily on teachers for that. so, huge thank you to teachers for doing the bulk of that. but we also need to do that part of really honoring the scientists and engineers we really have to keep that. >> as many may know, wikipedia is built by volunteers. it has volunteer administrators who determine what pages state. publish you've had at least 15 wikipedia biographies deleted by an editor. and at least one case, he successfully fought to get the biography of a new color chemist curry -- cloris phelps restored.

first of all, why they take this down. but tell me about the a -- >> clerics is a another phenomenal scientists. she was a navy engineer, social work and maybe both. she was in the u.s. navy originally and was trained as a nuclear chemist as the time and went on to make a discovery that contribute to a new element on the periodic table. so clarice phelps was responsible for an of the periodic elements in the periodic tables. but unfortunately, it's really hard to find enough references saying how incredible she has, because the scientific community have not done a good enough job of honoring her. so, we as scientists haven't given her enough, words we have not wrote books about her. so when it comes ridden wikipedia page, it's really hard to find those references to put them in. so definitely when i started anything, i was a little bit too enthusiastic. it's really hard for me to stay as neutral as you need to be when you're writing for wikipedia, if you're writing about such icons as gladys west or casey corbett.

so, that's a challenge. but also just kind of learning the ropes a little bit. as you get familiar with something, you learn how to write a more compelling argument or document someone's history in a better way. so for us i found it a little challenging. and people definitely do get a little bit prickly. those old school wikipedia editors, if you come in and say, you know, historically we have not done enough, a good enough job of celebrating women and people of color, so we're going to do that now. they get a little bit kind of tricky that they've not been doing that the whole time. so sometimes that -- some people suggest they should be deleted. >> the foundation that host wikipedia, the site, says over the past three years more than 75,000 biographies about women are now online. wikipedia insist they're making progress when it comes representing 50% of the world. how much more work do you think they need to do? >> we all need to do a huge amount of work, both online and offline. when i started this project, wikipedia english language

wikipedia was about 17% of the dog refuse were about women. now, we're up about to 19%. [laughs] and that's been four years. now we need to keep going, we need to keep this momentum up. but we need to do it in our textbooks. and we need to do it in our classrooms. and we have to have journalists like you and broadcasters like you featuring women scientists and scientists of color in the television programs. so that people are talking about them, the scientists are household names, so that one day we don't need campaigns like mine. but it's just completely because to society. >> i've been trying to book kissee for two years. so, we're trying. they need to say yes. whose biography are you working on publishing next? >> oh, i don't know. i've got so many suggestions coming over the past few days. are just sitting down at my inbox now to try and go through and find the next kind of incredible kissee corbett or gladdest west to story has been unsung. i will find out as i go through my emails. >> your enthusiasm is infectious, jess wade, thank you so much for your time, we

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