two weeks from tonight, polls will be closing in key battleground states, which means the candidates have just 13 days to make the final pitch to voters. i'm issue we will likely hear a lot about -- we are already hearing about -- is crime.

there is a lot to discuss. with our cnn political commentators. we have scott jennings, karen finney, and senior political analyst, bonnet brownstein. great to have you here. let's start with the senate debate. the john fetterman and mehmet oz that just happened tonight. and of course, crime came up. it has been a big issue in that race. let's hear their exchange. >> i'm the only person on the stage right now that has been successful about pushing back against gun violence and being the community more safe. all he has done is just put a plan on his website in the last 24 hours. he has no experience. he has never made any attempt to try to address crime. >> the eternal order of police, from braddock, this meltdown he represented, endorse me, because what he is saying it's not true. violent skyrocketed in braddock. the town wasn't in good shape when he got there. it got worse when he.

-- >> okay, john. i know you are chomping at the bit. i thought this was an important exchange because it's been one of the central issues in the campaign. it's one of vitamin's biggest weak points. his personal record on the parole board, his personal statements about letting people out of jail, trying to empty the jails, one third of people -- this is become the real reason that republicans have been able to reel in this race and make, it essentially, a tight race. overall tonight, i will just tell you, apart from this topic, i thought this was the unraveling of one of the biggest scandals going on in this mid term cycle, the covering up and the lying about the status of john fetterman. we were told, oh, he motions words together. and if he has this accommodation -- it's just a hearing problem. they have not been honest with people from the minute this happened, when back in the primary, they pushed this debate off as far as they could. it all came out tonight. there is no way to have watch this thing and to have analyze

this and say, this is fine. no way. >> karen, i know you feel differently. because you have had some personal experience with this. it wasn't just -- i don't think it was, just, oh, he much's words together. they said he has auditory processing issues and he will be easing close captioning. >> he said it. it was in his opening statement. oh, i'm watchwords to gather. and -- >> he has also previously said -- they have explained a little bit more. healing is not linear, scott. i'm here to tell you. nine months ago, i could not drink a sip of water. and look at me now. my doctor said to me, you will never have your voice back. >> and that is because you had a brain tumor? >> i had a brain tumor, i had removed, and my left vocal cord is paralyzed. somehow, my body found a way. i think it's hard when we are talking about medical situations to say, they are lying! you don't know. and that's part of the problem. we don't know. and we don't know because healing is not linear. the human body is amazing. now, what i will say is, it was tough to watch. he had a few moments where he

clearly got his hits in. on crime, i wish you would say, i will not be lectured to by a republican party that defends january 6th, that voted against putting more cops on the street. i wish more of my democrats would get a little more fierce on that topic. but i also think, mehmet oz -- he has a few floods himself. basically, he walked right into the reproductive freedom talking point. i don't want local government in the exam room with me when i'm trying to decide my personal health care business. so, i don't disagree that it was -- you know, i probably wouldn't have done it, if i was working for fetterman, i would probably just say, let's take the hit and not do it. >> not debated all? >> not debated all. because from what i understand, he was not good in debates in the primary. if it is already something you are not good at, particularly when you are healing and it is so hard, i cannot tell you how hard it was just to try to --

you are so self conscious that anything you say, any word you miss, people are going to be looking at you like, the she understand what i'm saying? and in my brain i was thinking, i know exactly what you are saying. saying it louder is not going to actually help me spit it back out to you faster. >> if we are talking about the debate overall, not just mine, i think it's hard for anybody to watch that and not have questions about whether he is capable of doing the job today. but there are, i think, offsetting factors. the question will be, how much today count? when is, he is saying he's getting better. as you were saying, what his capacity is today may not be his capacity in the spring or summer of 2023. the second issue is that for a lot of voters, the individual matters much less than that used to in the senate. they're voting for which party they want to control it. they want mitch mcconnell or chuck schumer to be deciding what is voted on. there are certainly other candidates in the country who you -- they obviously don't have the physical issues but you can

kind of look at their command of the issues and say, is this person might need to be a senator? >> do you mean in georgia? >> that might be one. but there are a lot of voters for whom that really the -- ability of the individual's secondary. having said that, i don't think people could have watched that and come away with a feeling of, yes, he is fully capable today of doing this job. the question is, how many voters is that dispositive for? >> -- >> before you do -- he has an auditory processing issue. he did receive a letter from his daughter last week, in a way that put a potential enter the conversations, where a medical professional described what any shortcomings he had, and he did not describe them as a cognitive issue whatsoever. i want to be very careful when we are talking about ones capacity and capability to do the job, as if it translates immediately to ones cognitive understanding. -- having said that, i don't know

-- i don't know if voters who are looking at the power dynamic you speak of, ron, we'll appreciate the nuance. >> i think somebody who appreciated this in the moment and reported on it and was savaged and that we ought to talk about tonight, because we talked about her on the show a few nights ago, is the dern journalist, dasha burns, who interviewed fetterman and said, he has trouble in small talk, he did not seem to be processing what we were talking about. savagery from the fetterman campaign, from fetterman's way, from other journalists, from media outlets -- she said, she should have been fired. his wife said she should be fired and face consequences for what we now know what is reporting the truth. everybody owes her an apology for the way she was treated. we know tonight, everyone has been trying to slough this off. like it's not a huge -- deal it is it a huge deal. -- it is ridiculous. >> i think one of the larger issues, regardless of whether or not john fetterman is up to

the task, is that crime is being used, obviously, in so many different races and seen, as we learned, in the voter panel that we had on last week -- democrats and republicans both see crime. but they see it very differently. and so republicans, i think, see crime as street crime, and street crime is. if you are afraid to ride the subway. democrats that we talked to see crime as access to weapons and school shootings and mass shootings, things like that. it's just an interesting -- >> he saw that in the other debates night. in the governor's debate in michigan, the key exchange was about gun violence, particularly in schools with governor whitmer, really pushing to tour, dickson, in new york as well. i wrote a piece last week on a study by seven academics that looked at the murder rates in all of the major cities in the country and found that, since 2016, they had actually

increased slightly faster in the cities with traditional hard-line prosecutors than in the cities with the poor across accusers progressive prosecutors, implementing many of the policies under attack in these campaign, like eliminating catch baylor prosecuting fewer juveniles as adults. that doesn't mean that their policies were necessarily wood dew seeing crime. why it also blows up the idea that it's systematically increasing crime. >> ron, who commits murders and violence acts in this country? you know the number one predictor? it's a few predicted one before. >> right. >> and the people who commit violent crimes are the people who commit -- >> you are talking over prosecutor. do you think recidivism race is the only methodology -- >> most of the murders in this country are committed by people who have committed previous violent acts.

why are they out of jail? -- >> the comment was, -- committed crimes to four, should never be got out of prison. do we believe in universal life sentences? that can possibly be logical. >> i believe that if you are violent person and you have murdered and raped and killed and on the most violent, heinous acts and you are somehow finding yourself walking around on the street, i want to know why. if i were living in one of the cities -- and i do live in one, louisville, kentucky -- why is that? some dude walked up behind two people in louisville this week, randomly slit the throat of two tourists in louisville. why are people walking around -- >> i'm channeling the average voter who doesn't feel safe walking outside. >> i know you are -- we heard an interesting, today, a statistic -- what are the top crimes? in philadelphia, homicides, violent crime, are down 5.8% over last year, but robberies

and street crimes are up. atlanta, homicide, there is no change, but robberies down. milwaukee, homicides up, robbery down. new york, homicides down 14.3%, robberies up 13.3%. my point is, that this is the evergreen bogeyman because everyone can relate to not want to be the victim of a crime, but the stats tell a bit of a different story. >> ron, in the story, you compare a study that has a so-called progressive prosecutor, versus one that does not. it's not actually what is happening. >> what causes crime to rise and fall is so complex and multifaceted -- and the idea that decisions of a prosecutor -- i mean, this is not me. these are the criminologists who did this report. with a found was that the decisions of prosecutors, who are pursuing the kind of policies that are under attack in wisconsin and pennsylvania and elsewhere, they simply do not have a significant impact on the crime.

the murder rate increased more quickly in cities with hard-line prosecutors then with progressive prosecutors. the larceny and burglary rates were almost identical. there are a lot of things, because crime is up from the low point of around 2014. it is still way below what it was in the 1990s. it has actually plateaued in 2022 after having a big increase during the pandemic years, when all sorts of social relations and communities who are disrupted but. the evidence does not support the idea that one approach to prosecution is systematically better at holding down crime rates than another. >> and also, the policies we are talking about -- we are not talking about putting violent criminals back on the seats. >> fetterman is. he's talking about letting murderers out of jail. >> let him finish. >> we are talking about -- again, you heard me say this before -- there are over 500,000 people in jail for petty crimes because they cannot afford bail. those are black and white

people, they are poor people. -- when we're talking about progressive prosecutors in some of these policies -- however, scott, this is exactly the talking point we are seeing on the campaign trail every day, demagoguing what is happening with crimes and the statistics are telling us is slightly different story. again, why is it that the republicans voted against putting more police on the streets. >> no one believes the republicans are against the police. i'm sorry. -- >> who invented the term defund the police? the democrats. >> -- >> but you know what, i want to play, the top democrat, entering, for president, joe biden, said it does not -- that principle. and democrat, barack obama, similarly said the same thing, about not wanting to defund the police. but let's play the soundbite. we are talking about the new york governor's race, kathy hochul and zeldin on crime. >> there is no crime fighting plan if it does not include guns, illegal guns.

i knew refused to talk about how we can do so much more. you didn't even show up for votes in washington when a bipartisan group of enlighten legislators voted for an assault weapons ban. we lost another child and teacher yesterday in st. louis because people will not support what i was able to get done here in new york and that is a ban on assault weapons for teenagers. you can't even do that. >> kathy hochul believes that the only crimes being committed are these crimes with guns. you have people who are afraid of being pushed in front of subway cars. they are being, step now to death on the street with hammers. we need to talk about all these other crimes but instead kathy hochul is too busy putting yourself on the back, job well done. right now there should be a special session. the state legislature should come back and -- overhaul -- >> there you have. and that perfectly encapsulates the debate between democrats and republicans. >> it has kind of gone out of fashion but it reminded me listening to that, when ej dion,

way back when, talked about false choices, and then you have the 1994 crime bill which that you don't really have to choose. you could choose to spend on hiring more police you, could spend more on prevention. and you could ban a salt weapons, and they did all of that then. the debate, essentially -- >> -- [laughs] >> i understand, i understand. >> -- out of vogue now. >> i did say it was out of vogue now. >> but it worked, it worked. >> there is nothing incompatible about saying you want more policing, more respect for the community from the police, and more restrictions on access to guns. they should not be incompatible positions. it is very hard to get there in the way that politics -- >> here is what voters see. if you live in pennsylvania, you are looking at a new story on your local news right now that wawa, the convenience store -- >> oh, i know -- >> we've had to close two locations in philadelphia, because it's too violent to keep them open.

you literally can't keep open a can be stored. so, i understand your academic lecture about prosecutorial policy. but what voters see and hear and know, is that, they live in philadelphia, a violent place where you can't even go to a convenience store. -- i think it is why zeldin has closed the gap in new york because people inherently want to be safe and it's not partisan. >> while we are having this conversation, i will tell you, we would be remiss if i didn't talk about -- a 15 year old girl was gunned down in her school in st. louis, a teacher as well, alexandria was her name, well. just 15 years old. and her teacher in the school, 61 years old -- >> yet another trouble 19-year-old young man who got his hands on an ar-15. >> the reason i bring this up -- just thinking about the life that has been lost and the sweet little girl and teacher as well -- when republicans are talking

about crime in the way that you are speaking, about about homicide and crime and outsized acai, and you've got democrats talking about gun control and access to weapons, we are our people safe? we want to have you all weigh on on these comments, to join the conversation. what and will crime be the big issue for voters on election day? it certainly is. at this table? and what about the fetterman oz debates tonight? what did you see? it tweet us at the laura coates and at alisyn camerota.

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reporting tonight, the doj trying to push further into the former presidents inner circle. they are now asking a federal judge to force two top lawyers -- that's the key word here -- from the trump white house. passive polonium patrick philbin -- to testify about conversations they had with the former president. that's a made a secret court fight trump has been waging to block former advisers from testifying in front of the federal grand jury investigating january 6th. back with us now to discuss, scott jennings, karen finney, and ron brownstein. as we are talking about the greater issue of democracy in peril, the president now, is saying, of course, that democracies on the ballot. we know abortion is on the ballot and crime is on the ballot. there's a number of issues. when you hear about this and think about the reporting, that there still an interest by doj in particular to try to get the testimony surrounding january 6th, is there still the electoral appetite, do you think? >> look, inflation is 9%.

presidential approval rating is at 40%. in that climate it's going to be tough for the party in power. one of the reasons they are still in the game -- democrats are still on the game, at least for controlling the senate -- is, in fact, over the summer, they were able to energize and activate their voters around issues, including the preserving of democracy as well as abortion. does that completely erase all the other factors that are out there? obviously not. by that is a mistake to say that that is not a factor also in itself. clearly when, of the reasons i think democrats are able to close -- not illuminates -- but we do use the susie hasn't gap, but also hold on to so many white collar voters, are also facing inflation and 401(k) s reduction -- not necessarily a majority voting proposition, because people are worried about other things. but it is a factor. and allowing them will stay in the game. >> right, but this is neither here nor there for the doj.

they are doing the investigation. they are not supposed to factor what the voters want. they're just pressing on with their investigation. it is taking a while. it >> is taking a while. and that's the point. that's what donald trump does oh so well, when it comes to litigation. how do you stretch this out? i would imagine, part of their strategy, get it past election day. he's looking for a more favorable congress who will look out for him, who will attack joe biden. i've served in a white house that was under siege and you don't have so much of the same time and energy to fight another front. i would imagine that's part of the strategy. >> maybe they should ask john stewart to try to hone in. do you guys see this clip that's going around? watch this and tell me if you think he should be part of the team to quicken things out. >> donald trump lost arizona. period. i said that from the very beginning. they have been isolated instances thus far that we've identified and we are prosecuting. we still have some active investigations going on. >> yes, yes. no, people cannot draw their

own conclusions. that's the point of the law. >> it is. >> the law is that you have facts and you have friction. >> right. >> the fact is, you the election in arizona was well run, not fraudulent, and not stolen from donald trump. according to even your investigation. >> i have never said -- >> why is it so hard to just say yes to that? i >> guess because i've spent most of my career as a prosecutor. and we still have some idling cases. >> so, in your mind, you still feel like, after all this, you are going to discover a concerted effort this deal the election from donald trump and that it was fraudulent? is that what you are saying? >> no, that is not what i am saying. >> so, why can't you say, the election in 2020 was not stolen or fraudulent? >> i will tell you this. as i said -- >> this is blowing my mind.

>> i'm a prosecutor and i say yes or no. i can do it. >> here's what i think, got, it always comes down to. they say, isolated incidents. that doesn't change everything. that doesn't mean the election is fraudulent. but that's what they hang their head on. -- you know that donald trump didn't win the state. but they can't say that. i hear this all the time from people in the states. they cling to the isolated incidents. as if that is going to tip the balance or something. >> he's obviously responding to constituents. he feels like he has to be response of them. if you want to put this on a silver lining around this, is if, a prosecutor who -- donald trump did not win arizona. he said that right out of the gate. i guess, over time, he just continues to fail any evidence of something happening. >> scott, it's been a couple years. >> a couple years. >> eventually, people will say,

i guess there wasn't. >> -- >> -- are going to continue to believe this. trump relies on that group to maintain his status -- >> -- that clip is why americans are worried about democracy. that's with that clip says. because that pretzel logic of, why can't you just say? and actually, the washington post just did a report on this. in three years, 20 cases. and in those 20 cases, it's like, a couple people, some people voted -- >> -- republicans -- >> that's the thing. the other thing that is so fascinating is, the fact that he's been so investigating is, has actually created more conspiracy theories and less certainty about the voting in arizona. >> i don't know if jon stewart -- i didn't see the whole interview. i don't know if he asked him this -- there are people with automatic weapons in tactical gear hiding their license plates, sitting

outside of drop boxes in arizona, intimidating people, dropping off their ballots. with that says is that -- this is almost like one of those movies where the contagion has escaped the lab. whether or not they prosecute donald trump, ultimately, the election denial and the corollary of that, efforts to intimidate our voters or to make it harder to vote, has spread it broadly. we are talking about full scale conspiracy theories who might get elected to secretary of state in -- or nevada -- the extent of this threat now go so far beyond trump. it has so infected so much of the republican party, so many officials feel they have to bend to that group -- which is not an incidental part of the coalition. you are talking about two thirds three quarters republican saying that the election was stolen. that's not just an attitude that looks bad. it's an attitude that shapes what is coming next. we are all gearing up for this crisis in 2024.

you look at a state like arizona. the wolf is at the door. >> yeah. >> the crisis is here now. there's a question of, him, to the attorney general of the u.s.. what are they going to do to protect voters rights in this climate? >> -- thank you all. we have a few more questions for you because, did samuel alito, the justice who wrote the opinion overturning roe v. wade, i'm sure ted kennedy -- -- heard that somewhere else. so, we are going to now know what kennedy wrote in his diary -- and how other justices seem to have echoed some of that. that is next. lan for cash flow, even when you're not working. a a plan that includes all your accounts so you can enjoy whatever comes nexext. that's the planning effect. from fidelity.

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>> in 2005, and supreme court now many samuel alito told senator ted kennedy that he respected to roe v. wade and he believed a right to privacy was, quote, settled law. this is according to injuries in the late senator's diary and published in the new york times. alito is quoted as saying, i believe that there is a right to privacy. i think it is settled as part of the liberty clause of the 14th amendment and a fifth amendment. so, i recognize there is a right to privacy. i'm a believer in precedents. i think, on the roe case, that's about as far as i can go. kennedy was skeptical of those claims at the time. and it was that very right to privacy that toledo called into question in the dobbs decision that overturned roe v. wade this summer. and with abortion bans going into effect in states across the country, the comments have renewed questions over whether some conservative justices have misled the country in their

nomination hearings. we are back with scott jennings, karen finney and ron brownstein. karen, that rings a bell. the misleading -- that's it, paging senator susan collins. paging susan collins. >> i'm shocked. she thought that way about brett kavanaugh. >> we could have told her she was misleading. and as a matter of fact, we did. sure. it's no surprise that what this reveals is what we have been talking about for months now, which is that the supreme court has taken a hard right turn. and certainly, many of these decisions that are coming down feel much more about ideology. in fact, in the alito decision, there are sections that are taken from right-wing talking points. so, yes, it turns out ideology factors into supreme court decisions these days, which is not bode well for our democracy. >> by the way, compared to collins, though, kennedy did not vote in favor of a laid out for that reason. he felt he was not genuine about that. but remember the only that the dobbs decision came out, the dobbs decision, alida woods --

was -- >> expression of a variety of views. i think, personally, here again i have no special status in talking about this. nine is a good number. somewhere in a middle range. some state supreme courts have said seven. a find out workable. something in sort of a middle range would be a good number. >> there was a clip instead where he's talking about something else, we are talking about the idea -- and i will paraphrase here, the supreme court justice, i like that -- i will play the part on television today. the idea of how we thought that leak gave people license to try to have the justices because he thought -- he thought they could harm one, i would change everything. hence the reason, them talking about nine. >> a little feel some with him quite often. almost every speech he gives it

some kind of grievance and at how religious people are discriminated against or conservatives are discriminated against. i kind of look at this and -- by the way, i think it was john ferrell, my former national journal colleagues biography of ted kennedy -- so, shout out to john on that -- that honor the diary. he feels empowered. it is more his court at his moment than john roberts. and the fact that he was willing to go as far as he was on dobbs after saying that to ted kennedy once, to me, this is signal that they are not done in this project of reconsidering precedents that really have all since the 1960s, the idea of a rights revolution in which we have nationalized more rights and reduce the ability of states we could train those rights -- i don't think this majority is done unraveling that. we have goes next, contraception, same-sex marriage -- >> voting rights. >> i don't know. >> is it a catalyst for voters

still? >> well -- >> more than it used to be. on abortion rights, certainly. for women, when we're talking about roe v. wade, it is literally -- that is where it also connects a democracy. >> go ahead, scott. >> i worked on the toledo confirmation in the bush white house. -- i don't think there's a republican in the country that thinks can be had his word on anything. >> you don't think those were alito's words? >> you think ted kennedy lied to his own diary? >> you want to litigate some of the things can ted kennedy? did >> -- >> i think liberals right now are trying to make themselves feel better about the way the court has broken down and try to argue that people have misled and this and that and the other. they are conservative justices. they are strict constructionists. they have never presented themselves otherwise.

>> -- >> that's not what it said. he did not say roe v. wade was settled law. none of these people in their confirmations promised they would rule a certain way. >> they didn't promise. but don't you think that saying things like that, that -- >> you can believe in precedent. but at the same time, you can also believe that some things deserve to be unwound. >> -- >> it's happened before, in this country -- >> excuse me, one of the things he mentioned in the diary entry, which, news clash to -- diary entry is no longer evidence you can actually include, his credibility is an issue for scott jennings. but i will tell you about this. he mentioned that alito wrote a memo for the reagan administration, in which he spoke about why he felt roe v. wade ought to be overturned. then he told kennedy, according to the diary entry, that he did that because he wanted to conform his viewpoint a ship

fewer promotion. -- was not somebody who could conform -- configure you viewpoints for a promotion. what might you do for life tenure position? >> may i say, again, the key issue, with brnovich, is looking forward, not back. the difference between the language aledo used in private -- confidence of that decision, just suggests to me how much more unbound they feel at this moment than he did then. and that signals to me that they are not done. and that we are going to face a series of decisions -- whether it is the formative action, whether it is further restrictions on blue states, on civil rights versus religious freedom or guns. this court is not done trying to unravel a lot of things that americans have come to understand as part of their legal framework. and that is going to be, i think, a growing issue in politics and the way that abortion is -- >> it's going to continue to threaten the legitimacy of the court. >> we shall see.

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but have yet to hear back. jenny mitchell joins me now, along with her attorney ben crump. jenny mitchell, mr. ben crump, so nice to see both of you, but not under these circumstances. can you just help us to understand, jenny mitchell, what it was like to have seen the study that came out flanking, according to the nih, uterine cancer, to some of these products? what did that feel like hearing that? >> it felt like i was reliving it all over again. it was hard to hear. but it was shocking. >> how long have you been using the products? and you think that it is tied to the uterine cancer that you were diagnosed with? >> i definitely believe so. i have been using these products since as far as i can

remember, since i was eight years old. that's typically when most african american young girls and families start to use these products. and -- so, yeah, since i was around eight years old. >> and part of that concern, -- the prolonged use, in particular, of these products. and we know, with a different style standards -- we talked about this show on the past, when they study came out, about beauty, about -- in the workplace, think that prompted the crown act, for example, that there is a great deal of pressure and preference to use these sorts of products. you filed this lawsuit and it is one of now at least three in this nation. why do you think this is so important to file it? and what do you hope to accomplish? >> laura coates, being the parent of a black daughter and having young black women in our

families, that we need to win the law. this, i believe, because our daughters health are at risk. we don't want our daughters to get uterine cancer and have to have a total hysterectomy, like jenny mitchell, and go into menopause before the age of 30. we believe that this is a public health crisis. if it was your daughter, wouldn't you say, let's make sure that we address this? let's not have any of our little girls use any more of these chemical relax years. because we believe, based on the science, there is a direct and proximate cause that, 2 to 1, they have a stronger chance of being diagnosed with uterine cancer. and i don't care about this european standard of beauty. our black girls are beautiful enough without having to try to

conform to american standards of beauty and the risk of youth losing their uterus. >> jenny, that point, we of course are also american and also to find that standard. and thinking about the way we approach it, thinking about all of this, just your experience, and you have been vocal about this, and through this lawsuit -- the crux of this is that this was not happenstance, according to litigation. they do and knowing marketing, based on the use of the ingredients and the products, that there would be that link. what message do you want to share about this lawsuit? >> i just want to bring awareness. and i don't want another young woman at the age of 28 years old to develop uterine cancer and have to go through menopause before the age of 30 because of these products that

are on the shelf. and lose the dream of carrying their own child. nobody wants that. >> wow. thank you for coming on and sharing your story. and i will follow -- we will continue to cover this litigation. mr. ben crump, jenny, think you so much. >> thank you, laura coates. >> jenny he's really brave. she's really brave to share her personal story with us, to heighten all of our awareness. and it has heighten my awareness. -- >> it was a conscious decision to for me to stop using those products for me. and i have a daughter. --

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