journalists like me require proof and evidence, we can all acknowledge that we do not know that that theory is wrong. perhaps it is fantastical, perhaps it is an illusion, but perhaps it is right. we can only know what a special soul james wright was and wonder if perhaps there was something so remarkable about the glints in his eye and the acceptance of his smile and the gravitas of his baritone, that perhaps if there was something that we cannot comprehend that gifted him to us, maybe there's also something we cannot comprehend that took him from us as well. goodbye, john. semper fi. thank you so much for joining me tonight. you can follow me on facebook, instagram, twitter and tiktok @jaketapper. our coverage continues with lauren coates. hi, guys. i'm not in a jocular mood, but

i'll throw the show to you. >> we can tell. what a special experience you had to have a professor you had such a connection with. it is really nice to hear about. >> thank you. >> thanks for honoring him. that was sweet. >> jake, have a good nighting. >> i'm alice incamerota. >> and i'm lauren coates. we are 13 days away from mid terms and now a second woman, this time a jane doe, is claiming herschel walker was involved in her abortion, saying he drove her to the clinic and waited in the parking lot for hours. >> he also caused the pregnancy, by the way. >> that's part of how the biology works, the allegations. >> right. >> this is that birds-and-the-bees course as well. she felt pressured to having the abortion. for herschel walker, he is saying it is a lie. what it will mean to voters? >> also tonight we will talk

about the fall-out from the fetterman/oz debate. fetterman shared his own thoughts on the performance a while ago. we will play that and find out if this hurt him with voters. >> social media, we will see. we can't judge from that. >> we cannot. >> we'll never judge from that. we have cnn political kmen taltor anna navarro and jim mecina, political commentator and scott jennings here tonight. you don't have any opinions, do you? >> no, no. >> let's go to commercial. it is all over, right? >> a lot of shrinking vio viole around the table tonight. >> i'll start with you, the biggest of the shrinking v violets. you talked about allowing people to show you through the process of healing. take us through the political realm now. what does it translate to for voters? >> i think it is hard though to separate the political realm

from the human realm. 800,000, almost 800,000 americans a year have a stroke and i think -- you know, i know people i love who have had strokes, and one of the most frustrating, difficult, hard, sad things for them to have to do is wrestle with this idea that, you know, initially as they're healing, if they heal, is that their words don't come out right and what they're thinking, they can't articulate. so i do -- you know, i know how hard it is for people i know, and i can only imagine what it is like to do it in public, to do it for the entire nation to comment on. so i do think that it takes a level of humility, of commitment, of honesty, and i think it is the right thing to do because voters deserve to have candidates debate. i also think of people, of other candidates who for much lesser reasons decided not to debate. he could have refused to debate, right, like katie hobbs in

arizona who i think is handing the governorship to kari lake. >> for not wanting to debate? >> for not wanting to debate, for the excuse she is an election denier. >> some have said she is taking an out. he could have said never mind, you don't agree with that assessment? >> i think candidates owe voters the respect of debating issues and to see what is out there. whatever decision voters in pennsylvania make they make with an informed consciousness of what john fetterman is going through and who mehmet oz is. >> here is how he just explained it. john fetterman just explained what the experience was like for him. >> to be honest with you, doing that debate wasn't exactly easy, you know. knew it -- knew it wasn't going to be easy after, you know,

having a stroke after five months. in fact -- >> we love you! >> in fact, in fact, i don't think it has ever been done before in american political history before actually. i may not get every word, every word the right way, but i will always do the right thing in washington, d.c.. >> jim, do you think he hurt himself last night by doing that debate? >> look, i think he lost the battle but he may have won the war because of what oz said on abortion. i probably disagree with you. i don't think he should have done that debate. i would have cancelled that. i think it was a difficult night for him and now he is on the defensive. that said, his campaign is masterful. they switched to exactly the topic they should switch to, which is oz's bizarre comments that local elected officials should decide abortion rights in pennsylvania. that will be a huge problem for oz in the swing places where women voters that you track all the time are trying to make a decision on this election.

i think if they stick to that message, oz did himself real damage last night. that said, we are all talking tonight about fetterman's performance. had he not done the debate we wouldn't be doing that. >> on the point, i want to dig into the idea of dr. oz's statements because he did try to make a distinction between, you know, he wouldn't first of all commit as to whether or not he would support senator lindsey graham's 15-week ban if he were elected. he punted on that. he had a moment when he talked about if federal government should not be involved but state and local officials, women and their doctors, and that was the line i think would draw out the concern of maybe suburban moms in particular and other factors. but i am really curious about this idea, do you not think had he not debated, would that have provided an opportunity for him to say, hold on, you have given two medical letters, you have told us you are fine, and now you are not debating? something doesn't smell right. would that have invited that level of skepticism. >> you look at him tonight in the clip you just showed, he looked good. that's what he should be doing, he should be out there doing

that in a setting he can control on his own message. i mean i just think it was a difficult time. i think the format was bad for him. 15-second answers, he didn't have time to kind of get his stuff together. i think the entire situation was very difficult for this candidate, and i think it was avoidable. that said, i know why he did it, we all do, right. he had to get it off the table. he has taken the advice. i understand the advice. i might have done different advice, but i really think long term oz came out of the debate more wounded. >> scott, we heard your thoughts last night that you think it hurt fetterman. do you have after 24 hours anything different. >> he has difficulty having conversations with other people and that's what a debate is. his campaign knew and sent him out there anyway. it is easy for him to give speeches when he is not having to interact with moderators or the other candidates. on the abortion i fail to see the controversy here.

dr. oz said he would clearly not support federal legislations and said it should be left up to the states which is a very standards issue republican position. the democratic position, i guess, based on what i am hearing on the attacks today is there should be no regulations, ergo no limits whatsoever which is, by the way, what fetterman's position is. he couldn't articulate one last night and he hasn't articulated one for the campaign. i continue to believe the democratic position on this is out of the mainstream. people are missing this. and, by the way, if this is the issue you are closing on, the issue that has fallen to sixth or seventh on the list of most important issues, i question whether it is the right strategy. >> roe v. wade was mainstream and the majority of americans supported it as i'm sure you know. he said i don't want the federal government involved with that at all. i want women, doctors, local political leaders, letting the democracy that has always allowed our nation to thrive to put the best ideas forwards so states can decide for themselves. i think it was the wedging in of local political leaders with women and doctors. >> who runs the government? >> hold on.

i wonder on that point you raise and this idea, do you think that people really -- i mean if the discussion is that the feds should not be involved, the government as a big umbrella term, the government, do you think there is the appreciation for why the federal government should not be involved but the local government ought to be involved? if the general premise is stay out of these private discussions, i don't know how that made the case that, oh, this is different, this is better because it is not even a standardized thing. what did you see? >> listen, maybe you don't get it, scott, because you don't have a womb and ovaries but i don't know any woman that would say, you know, we want our state reps and our governor and state senators to decide what we're going to do with our bodies. there is something that just doesn't pass the smell test i think for most women. i think that you think about counseling with yourself, with your family, with your doctors, with your pastor, with your priest. but the idea of my state senator, my state legislature

and my governor are going to decide what i do with my body, that doesn't sit well with most women. >> is that the advice you gave in your storied career as a republican strategist? dr. oz is the republican, and the republican position is this ought to be left up to the states which is exactly what he said last night. the democratic position, your positive six, is there shouldn't be any regulations of any kind from any government on abortion and i don't think it is out of the mainstream. >> i don't think -- >> you don't know what my position on abortion is. >> you just said what it is. you don't know what mine is other than to insult me on television. >> i'm not telling you your position. you don't have a womb and i'm telling you most women don't want to hear their political leaders are going to mandate what they have to do. i don't care what your position. >> we can make this position without insulting each other. it is amazing we haven't yet touched on herschel walker. >> right, that is true.

>> because we are so exhausted by it i think. >> what more is there to say? there's another woman who has come forward. it is -- i find it not implausible there would be another woman because he doesn't have a great track record of any of this and he just continues to say it is a lie. jim, do you think that any of this at this point matters or there's just such saturation level with these -- >> no, i do think it matters because we are sitting here 13 days, people are voting every single day, they're getting their battle and it is unbelievable he's on the defense again and he has lied repeatedly. he lied to his own campaign staff about it and there's another woman. he needs to close on an economic argument that all of us at the table would advise him to close and make that. instead he is talking about another issue, he is lying again, another woman who puts him on defense with his own base. he is trying to turn out republicans. he do of is doing ten points worse than governor kemp. he has to close with republicans and this is not helpful. this is damaging him >> is it the governor kemp we

compare to in this point? the larger point, which is interesting the discussion you two were having -- >> he didn't have a womb, didn't know it was an offense. >> i didn't know they were all biologists now. >> i don't want to get into biology of who has a womb at this table and who doesn't. i have given birth twice. i want to tell you, you all are having a discussion, and we are having a discussion about agency and everyone's body and abortion policy. georgia is having a discussion over whether a specific candidate financed an abortion. i wonder if the disconnect in why it is making a close race for warnock and walker is that people think that maybe the main national discussion is not what is being had in georgia. is that why walker is so close? >> walker is close because georgia is still a leaning republican state and he has a top-of-the-ticket governor who is winning by a significant amount, and this is a very, very close state.

it is a state the democrats have only won statewide once in the past 30 years in a presidential level. so any republican, had scott's party nominated anyone with a heartbeat this thing would be much more difficult. thankfully for me they nominated herschel walker who is the worst candidate. >> the reason walker is so close is because i think most republicans have decided this is a state that can decide who is going to be running the senate and thus character matters a lot less and hypocrisy matters a lot less than that. >> and they've said that. >> i don't think it is how swing voters think about it. people in d.c. think about this, but swing voters, you know this, they care about the economy, they care about future of their kids. they're not thinking about herschel walker controlling the united states senate. >> it is october 26th. we are less than two weeks before an election. gl gloria allred of all people -- >> you actually doubt this, scott? hold on. do you trust herschel walker? >> do i trust him?

>> yeah. >> yeah, i trust him. do i trust him more than gloria allred, yeah, i do. >> you trust his word that he knows nothing about this though one had his child? >> i don't trust things that happen in the last two weeks of an election from gloria allred with an anonymous whatever. by the way, if democrats are interested if sex stuff from 1992 have i got a story to tell them about what happened in the 1990s. no republican or independent, conservative-leaning voter in georgia is going to take within two week accusation seriously. republicans are going to view it as a pile-on and it is not going to hurt herschel walker. >> that's not all there is. it is cumulative. >> that's right. >> it is the latest in a string? does that have an impact. we'll talk more about this. >> hold that thought, everyone. >> we want to know more from you, right? >> tell us what you think about herschel walker and john fetterman and anything else you want to weigh in. you can tweet us.

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♪ john fetterman admitting tonight to supporters the difficulty he had in the debate

against mehmet oz. he said it wasn't easy. so let's bring in dr. jill bolty-taylor who has a unique perspective on his recovery. she's a neuroscience and author of "whole brain living" and she herself is a stroke survivor. dr. taylor, thank you for being here. you have will give us insight from all angles on what this is like. what did you think while you were watching john fetterman last night? >> you know, when i watch anybody, i think in terms of cell circuits, underlying abilities. i think he -- i think we could have done a much better job of setting his brain up for success in that kind of situation. >> how? >> well, i mean just think about if he is having a problem hearing, and so essentially he hears sound, it drops and then he catches on to that meaning, he is reading the meaning. he has all of this stimulation. it is an extremely stressful

experience for any brain, and on top of that you have an opponent who is constantly poking at you. we don't know if he can actually read what dr. oz is communicating to him, and then he has to read all of this, process that information, and he's on a 30-second timetable. i mean i just really -- i felt so -- as soon as i heard what the format was, i felt complete sympathy for him. >> but what else -- i mean he had closed captioning. as you say, he was reading what the moderator's questions were, and i believe he was reading what mehmet oz's responses were, though his team has said that there were technical difficulties with the closed captioning. don't know if that's true or not true. >> yes. >> but how could he have done a debate with having suffered a stroke so recently? >> you know, i think we have to re-evaluate what actually do we call a debate these days, because a debate these days is

very different from five years ago politics versus ten years ago politics. there is a new -- not just anxiety but level of hostility that comes in. we as human beings are feeling creatures who think. information comes in through all of our sensory systems. this is what john fetterman was up against. information coming in through all of the sensory systems. it processes through our emotional systems, and then it moves into our thinking circuitry. so thinking takes time, and we all think as normal brains. some of us think more quickly than others. in a brain that is processing quickly isn't necessarily more accurate or more precise in the answers that it delivers. i just think that there was a lot of confusion and we could have done a better job and helped john do better. >> but let me ask you about that because there's a question about whether or not he was having word-finding difficulties because of his auditory

processing or if he's struggling really with cognition, which, you know, would obviously affect the job. so what -- >> right. >> -- is the answer? >> well, i think that -- i think that you don't ask the question, "are you having a problem with this, are you cognitively competent." i think what you do is you go to situations when you has proven himself to be completely cognitively competent in a situation that really allowed for him to take the extra time that he needed, to be able to consider in order to give a responsible and accurate answer. he has done that in recent interviews where it wasn't such a high-stress, high-pressure experience. >> sometimes, i mean he has always had an experience in an interview where the interviewer said that she felt he was struggling to respond and to answer. but i want to ask you about your experience and how it informs all of this.

>> leapt met me go back to that may? may i address that? >> yes, please. i watched that nbc interview and i felt he was delivering information to her about his cognition and how he thinks and how accurate he was thinking, but because she didn't understand what she was looking for she came directly in the question of it, instead of observing, that he was actually giving her appropriate responses. so i don't think -- i think it is tough when a public that doesn't really understand what is cognition, how is it processed inside of the brain, what are the multiple pieces of cognition that work together in order for someone to have a bigger conception so that they actually can understand information and have an appropriate output. >> yeah. well, i mean this will shock you but not all of us reporters are neuroscientists like you. >> i know. >> i know it is shocking.

doctor, in all seriousness i do want to ask you this before i let you go. i know you had a more severe stroke than he did and i know it took you a long time to recover. is there any telling from your experience how long it would take him to recover and, you know, be back to 100%? >> well, when i look at what his brain was able to do on an interview on september 14th, he was able to think -- he was able to remember far away, far in the back, past in time. he was able to remember the day before, the events that had happened. he was able to project himself into the future. he was able to -- there were just all of these different stages of cognition that he is capable of doing. i think that instead of simply saying, is he able to cognate, let's look at the man and look at what he is doing and focus on

the ability, recognizing that the disability is there, and then how long will it take for him to recover. i can't speak to that. i haven't spoken to the man about this. >> yeah, that's fair. dr. jill bolte taylor, thank you very much for your expertise and sharing your story with us, too. >> thank you. okay. so she is obviously operating at a different level than we are in terms of what she sees, but it is what voters see and if they think that he's up to the job after last night. >> i can't help but think, i mean what she described certainly completely relevant, and i don't want to take away anything there, but she describes a level of patience and political grace that 13 days before a midterm election. i cannot help but think is this the calculus that would be situsing for a sitting senator like two who suffered strokes, both recovered, but one came back a month after having a stroke into the senate. >> i'm not sure. >> right before the vote for

supreme court justice. so i wonder if it is a different calculus for voters, the one who is in office versus one who is striving to be. we will see. look, either way, as maybe you heard this phrase, this is not your father's gop. that's what jobde biden is sayi today, but you wonder what that message will mean come the next 13 days. it is called mid terms. >> i've heard of it. it is happening. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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a reminder, it is just 13 days away. >> a reminder. >> 13 days. i feel like the world remind us

a lot of the midterm elections. >> i agree. >> we're weeks away, we're days away, now 13 days away. it could all come down to the answers to important questions like how much will election denialism with deniers raising its head with deniers running across the state and what is the future of a republican state like florida which is getting redder and redder. back with us, anna navarro and scott jennings. woo look at this and the idea of coveted demographics and who are the undecided voters, independent voters, republicans, democrats, all across the spectrum. there's an emphasis in particular on latino voters. in florida per se where they've got a coalition in terms of rural voters, latino voters in particular, in a state where everyone is watching where things will go now in 2024, what is your take in terms of what

this last 13 days -- i say it again. these last 13 taisdays, what is focus? >> 13 days is not going to make a focus with latino voters or a particular group. that's a problem. you can't remember a particular group 13 days away. you have to remember them the whole four years and that's a con strant complaint. latino voters, i think there are so many different things going on. i have to tell you republicans in florida, republicans nationally have laser focus on latinos in miami-dade county where i live, latinos in the rio grande valley, and they've done a good job of it. >> what are they offering them that is so appealing to latino voters there? >> attention. they're offering them free citizenship clinics. so, you know, if you want to become a citizen, the rnc is actually sponsoring clinics. they're also offering some candidates that actually paid them attention and catered to

them. listen, ron desantis has a cuban american lieutenant governor and goes down to miami and talks about cuba and talks about venezuela and talks about all of these things constantly. yes, he also schlepped venezuelan political asylum applicants to martha's vineyard. >> how did that play with latinos in florida? >> to my shock, less badly than i would have hoped. i didn't play well in my household, but a lot of people seem okay with it. i think it is the same concept. also, listen, democrats have done a really bad job in florida in providing good candidates. the guy they're running for governor against ron desantis is a recycled has-been who was a republican, an independent and a democrat. so how in the world do you want people to get enthused about that? you know, i think democrats have to look at themselves because i think they pretty much -- it

feels as a floridian, like democrats have given up on florida. one last thing that i want to say that i think people are picking up on and we saw it in the last couple of weeks. the last couple of weeks we saw what happened in l.a. county where there were latino members of the county, of the county commission talking about the division, saying some really racist things against african americans. i think there is an unspoken division and competition that republicans are seizing on and exploiting to make minority groups, pit them against each other and make them compete for the small piece of pie. >> when you think about the idea of the rejection of the monolith, when you paint such a broad stroke and suggest, oh, people of color want this without the nuances you are talking about, similarly it can be what the woman voter wants. it can be those issues you talked about. >> yeah. jim, do you think democrats are squaring off with latinos?

>> i do. there are places in america -- first of all there's no latino vote. we are talking about different states, different demographics, venezuelans, cubans, all of these things. in places like florida the republican party have reached out and they haven't demagogued, they have been careful. you look at places where they're on the defense, mostly in the west in arizona, in new mexico, which used to be republican states, at least new mexico and arizona and now are democratic states because latinos are walking away from there because the local candidates there are saying crazy stuff. that drove them to the modern day democratic party. the democrats are having a struggle internally about whether we will be pc and say these great things and call them latinx and all of this stuff or we are going to talk to voters about things they care about

like economy and education and things that every other voter cares about. >> maybe democrats should do that one, the latter. >> the latter, that's exactly right. >> we always get the impression -- speaking of conflating issues, the assumptions that are made, the assumption is if you focus on immigration then by design you will have the latino vote without acknowledging there is a distinction, right, the idea of thinking which countries you are talking about, those who are citizens, those who are seeking a pathway to citizenship. the assumption that immigration policy equals the only or the top issue for latino voters is a dangerous assumption to make based on the notion of even sending to martha's vineyard. but you were sort of nodding along just now and you're in disagreement? >> no, i totally -- everything she said i totally agree with. >> oh, my god. breaking news, somebody, please. cnn, breaking news. bring back the banner. >> we build bridges here, we do. >> i love this moment. >> it is not going to last long, but go ahead. >> no, look, i think republicans are rolling in florida largely because of the outreach she was

talking about that trhe republicans have done. the republican office holders have started to treat latino voters, hispanic voters like they're like every other american with interests broader than just immigration reform. you have a certain characteristic and therefore you are only allowed to care about this thing that i associate with you. if they're a woman, you are only allowed to care about abortion. i think that's what democrats have done with latin voters in florida. it looks like masters is close to kelly. i don't know if he will win, but -- >> do you want to bet money on that race? >> you want to bet money on the governor's race? >> you are holding the republican line.

let's be in the middle and talk about, so arizona is a great example. that wasn't on the ballot when you were on the white house or i was in the white house. now democrats are winning presidential elections, they have both sen at seats and they're doing well with the latino votes? enough with the talking points. >> are you saying the democrats are doing well in arizona? >> i'm saying -- >> i'm not disagreeing with you. i'm saying in this election -- >> are you saying mark kelly is not going to win the u.s. senate race? >> i don't know. it is a close race. i'm saying republicans in many states, most states are doing far better with hispanic voters than we usually do. there is a clear movement in the polling and in some of the races that have already occurred this year of hispanic voters choosing republicans. that's an absolute fact. >> clear majority -- so they're winning a majority of latino voters? >> not a majority. i said there's a movement beyond what we normally get. are you disagreeing in ? it is a fact republicans have done better with hispanics.

>> in arizona, you have lost every race but enough with the talking point. >> i feel like your ears are closed. >> the rnc gave you the talking points and now you can't shift. >> i tell you what, man, do you have a single friend? an absolute jerk. >> guys, stop. >> i'm sorry. i don't come on here and read talking point. you know me, you know me and you. i don't come out here and read talking points. i don't know you and you come out here and insult me. >> it is talking points. >> it is an absolute fact republicans are doing somewhat better with hispanics. she laid it out. i agreed with that and it is the truth. >> her name is anna. >> listen, here is the thing. can we say there's really no need to bet, is there, because in 13 days, in 13 days -- >> already 13 million votes. >> in 13 days we with opine, prognosticate or wait and see what the voters of arizona tell us and we will get there soon. >> obviously things are getting

spicy everywhere, everywhere. i mean these conversations are happening everywhere. >> i like what you did there, spicy, latino, latin. >> you can tell when democrats are feeling the pressure in an election, they start insulting everybody. >> stop. >> can we go back to that pretty moment when you said, i agree with what you said. >> she was dead on in florida, 100%. we are piflting right now to another story because "the washington post" is out with a new analysis of the nfl and they've come to the conclusion that the league uses black coaches when they need to clean up team's messes. we'll explain. is turning electric... completely on its head. bringing legendary design... and state-of-the-art technology... to a fully-electric suv. the all-new, all-electric eqb from mercedes-benz.

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the nfl still has a lot of work to do when it comes to hiring black coaches, but a new analysis from "the washington post" shows nfl teams often turn to black coaches to serve as

interim leaders when the teams are in crisis. since 1990 just three out of 14 black interim coaches were offered a permanent role compared to 10 out of 32 white interim coaches promoted to a permanent position. you were telling me, laura, often the black coaches have a better record. >> remember like "the hunger gains" where ever in your favor, the odds ought to have been in favor of the coaches with more than .500 record win. instead, the stats of white interim coaches they had promotions with .361 winning record as compared to black coaches over .500 or more. you have this idea here building about the rooney rule which is essentially you have to give somebody a chance, and you have the glass cliff. it is why we had this panel here today because the glass cliff, including former nfler who will be more well versed than us here. >> let's bring in anna that vara owe and we have daunte stalworth

with us. basically it is clean up on aisle nine is needed, let's get the black coach in here to do it. am i explaining it right? >> it seems that way. when you look at the way the nfl has had hiring practices over the last couple of decades, they've tried -- at least i should say the league office has tried to make these amendments to the rooney rule where you have to interview more black coaches, more minority coaches, but we've seen time and time again where when you are doing that pick up on aisle nine it is not the coaches that have had these teams, right. they're picking up from the other -- from their head coach's job. i think when we get lost into the weeds of how this happens where, you know, the coaches that are coming on interim coaching, they're not -- they're not able to instill their philosophy. they're not able to, you know, bring in the players they want through drafts and free agency. so they're essentially picking

up someone else's mess and told, here, hold this together while we figure out what we're going to do in the future. >> they're set up for failure. there's a class action suit as we know involving two black coaches, one in florida and one in steve brooks as well. you think about how it is going, the whole image of the glass cliff is you never had a chance. we brought you in because everything was problematic, and to give you an illusory chance you could fill the role we'll put you there. permanent coaches? forget about it. this is a league, you have, what, 70% of the players black, 13% of the coaches in all categories black over time. is it a coincidence? >> you know what? you can't argue with the data, right. i think there are well-meaning people making these decisions in the nfl, at times where they don't -- they don't necessarily know that this is what is happening, but when you look at the data you can't refute that empirical evidence. i think that's what the league office has tried to push the

owners. ultimately, it is the owner's decision who they hire and fire. so the nfl can, you know, put the rooney rule in, they can make all of the amendments they want, but at the end of the day it is the owner's that have the hiring power in the nfl. >> what's wrong? >> i have a question. in some of these difficult situations, is it possible that some of the interim coaches that are brought in like when you are brought in to handle a crisis or a huge mess and you do a terrific job, is this -- is there a potential silver lining to be hired into one of those situations because it turns out you are a masterful leader and you are able to handle a crisis and run a team at the same time? i don't know of any situations where it panned out for somebody, but in your experience has that ever been the possibility where someone got dropped into a mess and turned out to be a total genius? >> it has happened. i can't speak to exactly which coaches but it has happened a few times but it is very rare. again, i think it is rare because you're -- whenever the coach is fired it has usually been total dysfunction. you look at what happened with the carolina panthers.

they traded away one of the best players their franchise has ever had. that signals to the rest of the team, we are playing for the future, we're not trying to win anymore -- or we're not looking towards winning the super bowl this year, we are planning for the future. they brought in steve wilks. the only thing i can say about that is sometimes when they hire the interim coaches, the head coach has the option to have an assistant head coach, and sometimes that assistant head coach, again, which is the head coach's decision, it is his decision to hire that assistant head coach to come in and sometimes it is, but sometimes the owner will step in and make the final decision of who they want the interim head coach to be. >> it is an important -- >> don't look at me. that conversation has my palms sweating. i have anderson cooper level of sports knowledge in particular. but i heard about the brian flores issue because it was talked about in my house but that's all i know, his name is brian flores. >> i'm enjoying this. >> have you ever seen anderson? he talks about this. he confesses himself.

>> i thought that i held the record at cnn for knowing the least about sports, but maybe it is anderson. >> no, it is me. it is me. >> great. >> what i'll tell you is i'm so glad, daunte, you brought this discussion and contributed because we keep talking about coaches but it is also offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators, not just the head coach, the closed universe of facts. this is such a relatable issue outside of the world of football, in corporate america, in other instances, it is women and people of color in particular and this glass cliff. if you didn't know about it, now you know. we want to know what you think out there. have you heard about the glass cliff? do you have your own experience as well. tweet us @alisyn dcamerota and @thelauracoates and use

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