and tonight an 8-year-old close to making history. sam baker has now climbed more than half of california's el capitan with his father. they could reach the summit by this weekend. that's nearly 3,000 feet. now sam's father, joe, posted this picture of the two together after their first day of climbing, writing "sam showed so much courage today. i was blown away at his resilience and stamina. into the night, we have already crossed the halfway point. up we go." and we hope they will soon reach that summit. thanks to all of you for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening. almost since the moment a gunman entered robb elementary school in uvalde, texas and murdered 19 children and 2 teachers, their loved ones have endured a former

of cruelty, in addition to the loss they have to live with for the rest of their lives. it's unlike just about anything we've ever seen in the wake of any other such tragedy, never mind accountability. in many points since may 4th, these families haven't even gotten the simplest answers from anyone involved in what was by any measure, in almost every imaginable way a colossal failure. and that cruelty of officials playing keepaway with the truth, it continues. at a meeting today of the texas public safety commission, public safety director steve mcgraw was supposed to have a report on uvalde, containing updated timeline and other new information. instead, he provided neither. with the families of the murdered victims in the room, he did not deliver a director's report. he failed to deliver on that promise and family members in the audience responded. >> you have disgraced the state, your position, and the people. the officers are still under

your position. maldonado, bettancourt and kimble have proven to be culpable. and with new information dropping just about weekly, we know there will be others. well, steve, the time is now. if you're a man of your word, you'll resign. we're not waiting any longer. >> that's brett cross, who joins us shortly. he is the guardian of usaya garcia, a 10-year-old boy who was murdered. more than 90 dps officers stood by for 77 minutes. against all training and did nothing. that in itself is a failure of the first order. listen to what dps director mcgraw said to cross and other families today. >> if dp as an institution failed the families, failed the school, or failed the community of uvalde, then absolutely, i need to go. i can tell you this right now. dps is an institution, okay,

right now, did not fail the community, plain and simple. >> well, he also said, quote, one of our core values is accountability. accept responsibility, plain and simple. well, he didn't do that today. and to his claim that dps did not fail the community, already the texas house committee investigating the massacre has put out an identifying report identifying systemic failures and poor decision making by nearly everyone responsible. as for dps specifically, at least seven of its officers have been or are still being investigated for their actions that day, or lack of them. such as this officer who resigned and was later hired by for a time by the uvalde school system. listen to what she said just outside the school right after the massacre, right after she failed to do anything to stop it. >> your kids are there? >> yeah, my son is in day care. he's not old enough. >> yeah, i saw you. >> yeah, no.

no. if my son had been in there. >> yeah. >> in there, i would not have been outside, i promise you that. >> her son was not in there, and she did nothing. she was one of the first officers on the scene. she reported to dps director mcgraw, who said they didn't fail the community. even worse than a single officer doing nothing to help, a dps captain, who you'll hear on the radio in the next clip, he actually ordered his officers who were about to breach the room to do nothing. >> units making breach. >> hey, this is captain bettancourt. units making breach, stand by. units making breach need to stand by. >> "stand by low told the breech time. they didn't hear it and the situation was ended. while kids are being murdered. that captain reported to mcgraw, who today said that dps didn't fail the community. back in september, when first

word of that story became known, but before the tape came to light, our shimon prokupecz tried to get answers from director mcgraw. here is what he got instead. along with yet another promise to resign and yet another pledge of accountability. >> was there a body cam? there is apparently footage of him inside the hallway telling people not to breach that door. have you heard that? >> you know, i've heard a lot of things, okay. >> is there any credibility to that? >> i don't know if there is or not. that's one of the reasons why we're doing the investigation. >> i know. >> and we're going to be thorough. >> i don't want to do this. >> i'll be the first to resign, okay. i'll be gladly resign, take my resignation to the governor, okay, if i think there is any culpability with the department of public safety, okay? but we're going the hold our officers accountable. no one gets a pass. >> but you are looking at this captain bettancourt. >> yes, absolutely.

>> it's been a month since that encounter, near than five months since the massacre. shimon tried again today to get answers from steve mcgraw. he joins us from austin. i want to play the moment when you tried to get an answer from mcgraw. >> sir, what happened to the director's response? >> so there wasn't the director report that families certainly were expecting. what did he have to say today? >> well, he basically just sort of gave them kind of an overview, reviewing some of the information that was already known. he at one point apologized about some of the information. but really, the answers that they were looking for, the questions that they had, what they were expecting today, they were told specifically by dps officials that they were going to get an update, and that didn't happen. and many of us who were there were stunned that this didn't happen. in fact, he almost seemed

defensive again over his agency, over what the department of public safety did that day. and again, laying blame on others and saying it was more than just one person. there was several factors and mistakes that were made. and that's sort of been his tone. you know, i tried to ask him even off camera at one point, he was walking around, i went over to talk to him, where's the director's report? at one point he said well, today we wanted it to be about the families. well, the only reason why the families came, because they were expecting to get some kind of information from him. and, you know, it's just time and time again, anderson, we keep talking about this. and i don't understand how it is that they don't understand what these families are going through and what it is they want. the families have been very clear about this. it's so cruel for them -- for these families to have to sit there and explain themselves time and time again, and then wind up with nothing. they get nothing out of it. and it's just at some point, enough is enough for them. and you could see that today with them, anderson. >> disrespectful is just the

start of what it is. these are families who are going to these meetings because nobody is coming to them with information. they're going to these meetings, trying to get information wherever they can. i don't understand why it has been so long and we still don't have all the answers. i mean, i don't understand why there isn't a public report that has already been made. mcgraw even seemed to push back on what he told you back in september, now claiming that his agency didn't fail. >> right. and he was kind of trying to be slick there. honestly, it was kind of spin. whatever word is proper in this situation, anderson. but he knew -- he knows he has a problem because of what he said to me about resigning. so how does he get out of that? because there are now people who were with dps that have been fired, that have been suspended, that are under investigation for failing to do their duty, getting inside that classroom and saving those kids. and so he has a problem on his

hands. and so now what he is saying is well, what i really meant is i would resign if we failed as the institution. but quite frankly, the word "did not fail" and "uvalde" should not be in the same sentence, right? it's very clear there were failures here all around. and it was a stunning moment, it really was, to have him sit there and say this to the families. and anderson, as you know, and we've been doing on this show, we've been doing this together, you know, the reporting that we're doing continues. and the things that we are learning paints even a more disturbing picture of what went on here. and you know, when i spoke to the mayor, the mayor of uvalde back in july, he was the first person -- i mean, i found it hard to believe this, but he was the first person to come on the record and to say that there was a cover-up here. he still believes that. i spoke to him today. and he is saying to me that you're now seeing that. what you're seeing mccraw do, what you're seeing the texas dps

do is a cover-up. he is going to have more to say at some point. but you can clearly see this community and these families continually getting frustrated and angry. and it's just sad now, because the grief just does not stop. it will never stop. but it's being made worse by the fact that these officials are bringing them in. they invited them. come, we want you here. and then they give them nothing. >> yeah. and saying today is about the families and giving them nothing. shimon prokupecz, appreciate the reporting as always. you heard brett cross at today's meeting, who is yusaya's legal guardian. brett, we're glad you can join us tonight. again, for you to be there and not get any answers yet again, how do you -- what was your view of what happened today? >> i mean, it's ridiculous, you know. i'm upset that dps continues to waste our time. i mean, today was another instance. i got up at 5 -- left uvalde at

5:00 this morning to get there. and then for nothing, you know. they don't tell us anything. >> i want to play just a little bit more of what you had to say to steve mccraw today. >> listen, you can get irritated all you want. i lost my damn son. your anger is not going to outmatch mine, man. >> i'm not angered. i'm hurt. if anything else, i am absolutely devastated. >> are you a man of your word? >> absolutely. >> then resign. >> do you ever think he will resign? do you ever think you will get that there will be a comprehensive report put out by dps or anybody about all the failures that occurred? >> no, i really don't, because, you know, he's covering for himself and he's covering for

his agents. and he's made it clear time and time again. he just refuses to do what is right. and it's disgusting, you know. how are we supposed to trust as texans these officers of his when he set the bar at children being murdered as not being a failure? >> what more at this point do you want to hear from officials? >> well, for starters, i want to hear mccraw either resign or governor abbott needs to fire him. but we need information. we need to know. we keep getting these little bits, and it's reliving it over and over and over. and although we relive it every day, it's just -- it's always something new. they need to come clean, tell us exactly what they did or didn't do, and then let's go from there.

>> for you, for so many families in uvalde, i mean, it's been five months, three days since the murders. holidays are coming up, halloween in a few days, christmas, thanksgiving. i mean, this is -- how do you get through this? i mean, you just -- >> i mean, there is no real answer. you just wake up and do the day and then go back to bed. there is no, you know -- halloween is never going to be the same. usi loved halloween. he loved getting dressed up. he loved getting candy, just like every other child. and now i don't get to take him to get a costume, you know. he doesn't get to come home and try it on and be excited. you know. and there is a hole in our household now that will never be

fixed, you know. and thanksgiving's after that. our holidays are never going to be the same. >> brett cross, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up next, a live report from the phoenix governor's race, part of which is now the subject of a criminal investigation after one of the campaign headquarters was originally burglarized. also, former presidential candidate howard dean joins us in the fast-changing race to control the senate. later, it is more than just voters coming face-to-face with armed poll watchers. there is also concern from election workers themselves about their own security. we'll talk about it with former top georgia election official. . i've been meaning to ask you, carl. does y your firm offer personalized index investing? hmm? so i can r remove a stock that doesn't align with my goals. i'm a broker, not a barista. what about managing gains and losses to be more tax efficient? not a wizard either. looks like schwab personalized indexing can.

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headquarters of katie hobbs. in phoenix tonight there has been a lot of finger-pointing so far. kyung, what is the latest about this break-in? >> well, let's go over first of all, anderson, what phoenix police are telling us. they tell us they have indeed arrested a suspect, a 36-year-old man. his name is daniel moat to dos reyes. he has been booked on one count of third-degree burglary. here's what the phoenix police did not say. they did not say that the burglary at katie hobbs' campaign headquarters in phoenix was politically motivated. it does not appear that there is any evidence that it was. it appears to be an unfortunate crime, and that is not the assumption what the hobbs campaign was working under when they released statements last night. certainly we're seeing the repercussions oafter that today politically. >> so kari lake held what her campaign termed an emergency press conference this evening. what did she say?

>> i would character it more as a political victory lap. so far more -- about an hour, i would say, kari lake courted the local press in order to badger the press and to talk about how she felt that she was a victim of incorrect headlines and incorrect framing of based on the hobbs statement last night. one phoenix political operative, a republican, told me very simply that hobbs is the victim of a small burglary, but lake is the winner in this story. >> is there a sense on what voters think about this? is it a big story there? obviously, you know, there is the economy. there is a lot of issues that voters are caring about. >> you got it right on the head is something like this, which is really maybe a 24-hour story, a blip really for people who are really paying attention to what's happening in arizona, or

may look or click at a couple of sensational headlines on social media. is this going to motive anyone to vote? is this going to change the way anyone is going to go for either katie hobbs or kari lake. that's unclear. what we do know is that voters do move based on the economy. that is what we keep hearing from voters over and over again, that they are worried about the costs of gas, the costs of the price of living, the issues of democracy. these are some of the more substantive issues that people are really thinking about, anderson. >> kyung lah, appreciate it. also in arizona, the nonpartisan reporter recently switched their rating of mark masters to unseat kelly to a toss-up. here to talk about the implication, dana bash. former vermont governor and democratic national committee chairman howard dean. governor dean, how much trouble do you think are the democrats in if they lose the arizona senate seat in the midterms? >> look, i expect to pick up two or three seats in the senate for

the democrats. i don't expect mark to lose his seat. look, people, you know, trump has inserted himself into this election. so if you vote for a right-wing maga republican, you're basically asking for four more years of trump. and there is not a big appetite for that among the american people. so we'll see. i'm not worried about kelly's seat. he is going to have to work hard. he is only ahead by half a point now, according to this poll. the polls have been wrong a lot. the turnout around the country, and i don't know exactly what it is in arizona. but the early turnout is much more democratic than it was in 2020 for the democrats. so we'll see. the answer is nobody knows. and pundits make their living making pronunciations of which they know nothing, and i won't pretend i'm going to be any wiser than the pundits. >> dana, senate majority leader chuck schumer was caught on a hot mic in new york today talking to president biden about

the democrats' chances in the senate. i just want to play some of that. >> it's hard to believe that they will go -- >> he is not a pundit. he is the senate majority leader. so he knows what he is seeing in his internal polling, what he is hearing on the ground. and georgia is incredibly critical. i sent that hot mic moment to a senior democrat, and i got the head in hand emoji back. so that kind of gives you everything you need to know about not just that moment, but about what it says. they're concerned, very concerned about georgia. with all of these allegations against herschel walker, which of course he denies, it has not done anything to move the needle. for lots of reasons. one of which is that the republican on the top of the ticket for governor, governor kemp, is popular and is doing

quite well. but there are lots of other senate races that they are very focused on, including what you were just talking would be the governor, arizona. they're also starting to worry about new hampshire, where there is an incumbent democrat there and of course there is nevada, which is a place where there is an incumbent democrat in a neck and neck race trying to hold on to that seat. and it's true across the board. >> governor dean, senator bernie sanders has criticized democrats for not having enough emphasis on an economic message for working people heading into the midterms. do you think democrats have talked enough about economic issues or were they going to take the blame for the economy no matter what? >> they were going to take the blame for the economy no matter what. but i actually think biden is doing a pretty good job on that. he is out there every day talking about the numbers. the problem is the numbers are -- the lagging indicator is not the numbers. the lagging indicator is the lagging rate, price of groceries and all this stuff.

these people, a lot of these republicans are crazy, and i put herschel in that way. i think blake masters is not playing with a full deck. they're election deniers. they want to ban abortion. masters out in arizona was talking about banning contraception. he thought that the court decision griswold, which was -- it wasn't a century, it was on it or 80 years ago, should have been reversed. i mean, this is insane. i don't think at the end of the day that the public wants this kind of stuff in america. we've had four years of that with trump. i think biden has been refreshing. i think the economy is doing pretty well compared to the way trump left it. and that's why i remain optimistic. i really do. if you knew what bolduc had to say about abortion, you couldn't vote for him in a libertarian state like new hampshire. >> dana, you have a special coming up on saturday night 8:00 eastern. i know you sat down with doug emhoff, the second gentleman of the united states. what did he have to say?

>> anderson, in the series, try to talk to people who are in the news, try to get to know them, to know what it's like to be them. i've been wanting to talk to doug emhoff for a long time. he has writing a second playbook there has never been a second gentleman because there has never been a female vice president. we talk about that. and sort of the gender-bending idea of what he does, and the idea of being a supportive male partner. take a listen. >> i think there are a lot of men who intellectually want to support their female partners. and then when it gets to that point, it's hard. >> yeah. >> it's hard on your ego. you say you have a healthy ego. have there been moments like that? >> yeah. like i said, you have to put your ego aside, though. and it's not about you. and i will be on -- i'll be giving speeches. and one of the things i say is men need to support women. >> don't just think you're being

supportive. don't just say you're being supportive. be supportive. >> one, it's the right thing to do. and then, okay, you need to actually do it. don't just think you're doing it. and the women in the audience start looking around and smiling. sometimes it's hard, and sometimes it's not what you expect, but it's the right thing to do. and if i can set an example doing it, i'm very grateful for that. >> so we talked more than topic, anderson, about his faith. he is the first jewish person in this role, and he took us on a tour of the grounds in the naval observatory where he and the vice president live. >> dana bash, thank you. howard dean as well, thank you so much. once again, you can see dana's special report "being the second gentleman" this saturday, 8:00 p.m. eastern time on cnn. still to come tonight, we've been telling you about the reports of voter intimidation in arizona. are men monitoring ballot drop-off boxes at night? election workers are also

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earlier in the program when reporting on the uvalde shooting, we noted that seven

dps officers have been or are still being investigated for their actions that day. when we were saying that and told you that part of the story, we showed some video of officers who were in the school. we should not have been showing video at that point because there is no indication any of those officers are under investigation. so we just want to clarify that. again, 12 days to go until the midterm election day. and we've been monitoring the threats to democracy, the security worries we've told you about, the reports of voter intimidation in arizona are referred to the department of justice, includes armed men on camera watching people as they put their early ballots in a drop box. the local sheriff says the men are not breaking the law, but it's not sitting well with some voters. last night drew griffin had the video of a voting machine breach in action, where two men last year tried to copy election data pretending they were from the department of defense, wearing bulletproof vests and failed to justify claims of voting irregularities in the 2020 election. tonight tonight workers are

saying they're concerned about the lack of spend the spending ahead of midterms. millions of dollars that could be used to improve security in their offices they say has not been tapped. one telling cnn, quote, our security here is a joke. joining me is director baron who resigned after death threats. what are your thoughts after hearing there are millions of dollars in federal aid for security that have not gone unclaimed? >> in fulton county, i didn't know anything about the money from doj. i went out and got $10.8 million in grants in 2020, and we used that for security -- 900,000 of that went towards police security throughout fulton county. we had it at the early voting sights, all the election day sites, and we used it at some of the facilities where we employed workers. and the georgia general assembly banned that money.

there were no strings attached. it was really easy to get and to use. and the senator or the tech and civic life made that easy for counties across georgia to do it. and they basically -- the assembly decided to focus on us and ban it. >> you worked in georgia, but already this election cycle we have seen images out of other parts of the country, in arizona, for example. you've got armed people watching over -- claiming they're watching over ballot drop boxes. others say they're out there to intimidate people. it's not illegal. you can assistant 70 or so feet away. are you concerned we could be seeing more behavior like this across the country in future elections? >> yeah. the thing that concerns me is that i think the silence of some of the elected officials that are at the county level and the state level, they don't come out and talk to the constituents about the behavior that they're engaging in. and so that silence condones the behavior. and it actually approves the behavior. so that really for me is the

concern. i think when you have these drop boxes, we had to deal with harassment at some of our drop boxes where people would drive in the cars behind the people that would pick up the ballots, block driveways and harass them. and then some of my staff would say we're just trying to do our jobs. why do these people keep doing this stuff to us? >> and ballot drop boxes, i keep emphasizing this, they're under 24/7 surveillance, video surveillance. >> right. >> it's not as if these are isolated boxes that people go and breach and access and put phony ballots. it's -- this is stuff that is all monitored as it is by law. >> right. the fulton county police, we had 38 of them. we had cameras on all of them. the police department monitored those 24 hours a day, seven days a week. they were outside. and cameraed now. then the legislature here decided to restrict it. there have to be inside a voting site. we could only have seven in

fulton county versus the 38 we had. and we never had any security issues at any of the boxes. so -- and we have postal service boxes all over the place. and people don't mess with those. i'm unsure why they decided to restrict the way voters can return ballots, by getting rid of these boxes when they were secure. >> what kind of toll did these death threats, slurs, you know, against your team, what kind of an impact did that have on your team? and on you? >> well, it becomes demoralizing after a while when you're constantly receiving these calls, especially my staff. 99% of my staff was black. they were subjected to insidious racial slurs day after day after day. and some of those would come along with death threats. after a while, you feel demoralized, and you're looking towards the leaders in your county, like some of the elected officials, or at the state assembly to speak out and

proactively stop this. they don't do it. and so when they're silent and they let their constituents behave however they want, then what happens is these -- it encourages the people later on. and i think also when these complaints come in, the police need to make sure that they make contact with some of these people that say these sickening things so that later these people are going to think twice because they know that the police have made contact with them. >> yeah. richard barron, i really appreciate it. thank you, richard. >> you're welcome. coming up, russian president vladimir putin speaking out against the west, at the same time claiming the war in ukraine will be good for russia in the end. up next, we're going talk to a russian college student who says he fled the country after russian paramilitary police stormed his apartment for calling out the brutality in ukraine. a cold is not just a cold. coricidin is the #1 doctor recommended cold and flu brand.

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>> i was put up and in the wall. i was ordered to stand to the wall. and then i was asked questions. i was threatened. when i answered questions not in the way the men wanted me to answer them, i was hit. i was slapped in the neck. i was hit a couple of times in my shoulders, and i was threatened. the man who was doing this threatened me with beating my fingers with a hammer and expelling me from my university, which will subject me to the draft. >> what were they wanting from you? what were they wanting you to say? >> i believe they want me to tell who -- they want -- i believe they want me to tell who

is behind this writing on the wall. they didn't believe it that it was my own idea. but then when it turned out that it is indeed my own idea, they just wanted me to admit that it was wrong. and they wanted to make a video, an example of me. >> and did you finally make that video under pressure? >> yes, under pressure i broke, and i made the video that stated that i love putin, that i support his actions in ukraine, which is a lie. and after this video was made, i was let go. >> why did you decide to spray paint "putin equals war" on the wall? >> because i felt after their massacre in bucha, i felt i don't have the right to be idle, that i need to do at least anything to show that i'm not

complacent with this tragedy and murder. >> you felt like you had to say something? >> yes. this is exactly how i felt. >> so after they released you, i know it took you three days, four nights actually walking to the border. i mean, that was incredibly difficult. once you got there, how were you able to get across? >> the border is barbed wire fence. and i used logs that i found in the forest around this place in order to wedge a little bit of hole in the barbed wire. and i crawled through. i still have right there, i still have a coat that i had and it is still torn because of -- because of barbed wire. >> and you spent a few weeks in

two different polish detention facilities. i know you were eventually able to make to it france where you are today. what happens to you now? and what do you think about what is happening in russia today? >> right now i'm awaiting the decision for the asylum from french authorities. i'm really grateful for french authorities because they conceded my case for the transfer. and right now what happens in russia, i'm watching closely what happens in russia, and it is to be fair, it is really hard for me, because it is my home, and it is -- it's being destroyed right now. as we speak. >> mikhail, if you don't get asylum in france, what happens? >> then i will get back to russia, and i will go to prison. it is simple.

>> mikhail, i wish you the best. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> coming up, the capitol rioter who dragged then d.c. police officer michael fanone into the mob where he was tasered and beaten learns his fate today. how long he is expected to be in prison, and what officer fanone said to the court right before the sentencing. we'll talk to officer fanone, next.

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federal judge has sentenced the january 6th rioter who dragged d.c. police officer michael fanone into the capitol mob to selven and a half years n prison. investigators used several videos to make their case, including this one. the officers pushed the rioters out of a tunnel. that is when head convinces fanone he is trying to help him, but then dragged him directly to the mob. he's caught on video yelling, i got one, as he dragged fanone into the mob.

fanone's body cam footage shows how he tried to fight back, being tasers repeatedly, leading him to have a heart attack. "hold the line: the insurrection and one cop's battle for america's soul." michael fanone joins us now. you talked to the judge today about mercy for your attacker. what did you say? >> i asked judge ami bey berman jackson to show albuquerque head the same amount of mercy he showed me on january 6th, which for those of you living under a rock, was done. >> just shy of the eight-year maximum. is that enough in your view? >> listen, i don't typically comment on the sentences that

these judges hand down. that being said, i do feel it was appropriate. i think that amy berman jackson was thoughtful in her sentencing, and i accept it. >> did you get a sense that this person, this attacker, this who did this to you has any remorse for what he did that day. in court, he reportedly shook his head, stared straight ahead, and at one point grinned at his fiance, apparently, as she wept. >> yeah, i don't know, to be completely honest with you. the only person who knows if albuquerque head is remorseful is albuquerque head. that said, i will talk about the family's reactions to the past several sentencings. when i was at kyle young's

sentencing, immediately after the judge handed down, i believe it was a seven-year sentence, his mother called me a piece of -- there was an outburst in the courtroom. and in this particular sentencing, i thought it was interesting that albuquerque head chose not to address me, chose not to apologize. an and, i mean, it was pretty clear from the family's reaction and body language that they also did not feel like albuquerque head was responsible for his actions. >> wow. >> or that they were wrong. >> that's incredible. this is the second longest sentence that has been handed down, the longest one for someone pleading guilty. do you think sentences like these -- do you think this has a deterrent effect on anybody? >> so, i mean, listen, in my

capacity as a law enforcement officer, former law ens forcement officer, i would traditionally say yes. but these aren't traditional crimes. these are politically inspired attacks on law enforcement and on our democracy. and unfortunately, you still have individuals, a former president, many of his allies, that continue to spouse the same lies that motivated these attacks. so, while i think that they may prevent many americans from participating in something similar to january 6th, i think it's also inspiring many americans to fight harder and to be more violent. >> michael fa mnone, i apprecia your time tonight. thank you. >> yeah, thanks for having me, anderson. still ahead, something that brings a smile to your night.

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