thank you so much for joining me tonight. you can follow me on facebook, instagram, twitter and the tiktok @jaketapper. tomorrow we're going to have two big guests. dr. anthony fauci. we'll talk about guidance from health officials being politicized and much more. and also talk to the actor f. abraham in his most recent credits in the new season of white lotus. that's tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage now continues with the wonderful, wonderful laura coates and the awesome -- totally awesome allison camerota. those are movie lines. >> what's it from? >> ridge-mind high, the thing with the coffee, awesome, totally awesome.

wonderful, wonderful, laura, is a reference to steve martin's great film "l.a. story" when he says he's falling in love. >> and here i thought it came to mind because you saw me in canary yellow. >> that's what inspired it. anyway, it was a cinematic theme. >> i like the trivia. i like the fun facts to start the show. that's awesome. >> next i'll work on a pop up video for it. >> very good. and you're awesome too, jake. good evening, everyone, i'm laura coates in washington. >> and i'm allison camerota in new york and this is "cnn tonight." >> we're also here with our panelists across the political spectrum there's actually one team in washington with me. >> and the other team here in new york with me. basically we have so much work we need two studios. it doesn't fit in one. so let's start with all the developments heading up to the

mid-terms. the big guns from barack obama to donald trump are about to hit the campaign trail, and we've also got new polling that tells us a lot about why people are choosing certain candidates and the kind of america that voters want to have. >> which of course is every candidate's dream to have this data and we're going to bring it to everyone. we also have a mid-term issue that affects every single american, and frankly for that matter, allison, people all around the world the climate crisis. and jane fonda is going to be here to talk about her climate activism and really what she thinks would happen if republicans retake the house and the senate. >> i look forward to that conversation. meanwhile, we also have breaking news at this hour. elon musk has just closed that $44 billion deal to buy twitter. and he's already fired the top people. what that means for all of us. >> i guess yesterday was a preview, allison, when he brought the sink in, let that sink in, america. there you go, building off that meme. we've got a lot going on.

let's get right to our count down to the mid-terms. we're 12 days away. here with me now national editor and cnn political commentators ashley allison and david swerdlick. i'm glad you're all here. first of all, the twitter news we're going to get to it. don't worry, i think the world is going to change in an interesting way 12 days before mid-term, but there's also some data out there and the polls are really, really striking. if you look at i know it's a poller coaster. there's a new poll outright now and talks about whether americans thinks that things are going in the right direction. and to put it on the screen, overall 47% think it's going in the wrong direction, everyone. and it breaks down to 53% of democrats feel this way, 76% of independents feel this way. 93% of republicans, 93% of white evangelicals, 80% of white voters, 58% of black voters, 66% of hispanic voters.

this is all people who think it's going in the wrong direction. look, you guys, we're 12 days out. what does this signal to you in terms of -- shall i say the two words together, the red wave. what do you think? >> well, i think there's been a consensus in this country for most of this millennium we're going in the wrong direction but the fact is people don't agree why we're going in the wrong direction. you saw 53% of democrats think we're going in the wrong direction, presumably that's for different reasons than 97% of republicans think we're going in the wrong direction. it is one of the reasons why mid-terms go badly for the party in power because we've had this persistent unhappiness with the state of the country there tends to be a kind of reaction to whoever is in power. there are a lot of reasons democrats thought maybe that wasn't going to happen this year. >> you called it roe vem br. >> and i think reality is

starting to set in we're getting much closer to the usual pattern here. >> the pattern i'm always a little bit skeptical of it. and probably it's the prosecutor in me i'm skepical of pretty much everyone. but i wonder if it's seed planting. does it encourage voters, does it indiscourage them? does it get them out and make them say never mind then? is this poll reflective of that sph. >> i agree the direction in which way the country is going, some say it's been going in the wrong direction since 1950. >> well, that meant womens rights, rights for black people, basically everyone sitting in this panel has increased so i think it's been going in the right direction since 1950. i think for laying the groundwork, what are we defining as a red wave? because if that means up and down the ballot republicans win all the governors races, they take the house, they take the senate that's how i define a red wave. i don't think they're going to sweep the playing field.

i think there will not be maybe we lose one chamber of congress, but i think democrats will still fair well and fair well better than democrats or whoever is in power does on a mid-term election. >> and by the way on points people think things are failing, hot button issues, lightening rods, abortion, for example. and particularly i mentioned roe v. wade or roe-vemberes as it was called and there was this calculation to believe it would have this sustaining power. and here was fetterman was speaking and talking to dr. oz on his stance on abortion. listen to this. >> to hear dr. oz speak about what he really believes about abortion and the fact it should be made by local political officials like doug mastriano, it's alarming and the fact

people now realize exactly what he believes and the kind of vote he would make if he was in the senate. it's -- you can't afford to give a clown a vote on roe v. wade. >> so as to your point, ashley, and david i want to bring you in here, the idea of things going in the wrong direction many would argue with the overturning of roe v. wade that was a signal of a clear demarcation of wrong direction. and it's being played differently from democrats and republicans. >> it was wrong direction if you look at polls which show the majority of americans are pro-choice. it was wrong for democrats, though, to rely on that so early in 2022 as something that was going to catapult them into stanching damage in the mid-term elections. i don't think that democrats are going to take that 2010 shellacking that they did, but i do think things are trendsing towards republicans right now. part of it is because democrats have had trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time, continuing the message on roe,

also trying to tout the positive aspects of president biden's record, which there are positive aspects, but also trying to address in way that voters will respond to the negative aspects of president biden's record. you can do all those things at the same time. democrats haven't done that. >> the thing about messaging, though, listen to senator lindsey graham because he was commenting on the messaging and how he thinks senate candidate herschel walker is so disruptive, the idea what these identity politics tell us about our nation. listen to mis. >> why herschel? they're beating all of our guys up, but what is it about this guy? he changes the entire narrative of the left. you and me are racists, the republican party is racist. well, what happens when the republicans party elects and nominates herschel walker, an african american, black, heisman trophy winner, right, olympian, it destroys the whole narrative. john james, tim scott, herschel

walker. everybody in san francisco's going to jump off a bridge if we let this man, a black conservative be the black liberal in georgia. >> what do you make of that statement? forget the jumping off the bridges in san francisco. we'll put that to the side. but is this idea going on here it's disruptive? is that the critique? >> i think a lot of republicans believe first of all it's important for the party to have more diverse representatives in congress so there's a special value that people like senator graham to having successful bland cats candidates. and they also think sometimes justifiably, i think here unjustifiably that minority republicans are targeted for criticisms. i think walker's record, walker's own past, walker's inability to persuasively defend himself and make coherent statements on a consistent basis are really what has caused him

to be as controversial a candidate as he is. >> let's go to allison. i want to hear her take on her panel as well. >> we've been listening with great interest, and our panelists here are really interested in the polling. so let's bring in cnn's john berman, also bill kristol, and our journalist. i know you guys were fascinated by some of these findings, so let's look at the 1950s, john, the 1950s, which i know you hold in very high regard. since the 1950s american culture and way of life has mostly changed for the worst. that's the question. 66% of republicans agree with that, 71% of white evangelicals agree with that, 31% of americans agree with that. 51% of white evangelicals agree,

55% of republicans, 12% of democrats. and last newcomers threaten traditional values. and john, i mean doesn't this say basically people -- many people in this country feel that the culture is shifting more quickly than they are comfortable with, and they will be voting for candidates who are promising to basically curtail immigration? >> you know what the 1950s were better for? dying, okay? people died much younger. the life expectancy was 66. now it's 79. i don't know what people think their harkening back to when they think of -- >> i think the time is -- >> they weren't alive. most of the people in this poll weren't alive then. like only 17% of the population were 65 or older. so you have people making stuff up here about what they see from the 1950s and god knows what tv show -- no, because that was the

'60s or '70s which was way cooler. these people are making this stuff up. it's nostalgia for something they know nothing about. they're creating this notion, this idealized notions of something, and you have to wonder what their motivations are. >> i think it's what i said, bill, i think it's what i said. forget the '50s part of it for a second, it's the shifting sands of a culture and not everyone is comfortable with-touch am i think they've been pretty outspoken about that. >> imply an implicit distinction which is i was a conservative for many years. i still am on many issues. nusubst nusubs nostalgia can be a pointer. not everything is progress. maybe ourfore fathers got something right and we can

preserve them. i've got to say in the last six or eight years when it's been weaponized the way it has and turned into a bitter hostility to change, to immigrants, to minority groups, a refusal to face-up to any of the problems in the past -- the '50s there was kind of a lot of unpleasant stuff happening in the '50s and '60s and to that respect i think i was too nice to nostalgia. >> yeah, and i'm not saying it's right or wrong, i'm just saying doesn't that explain how some people are voting for these candidates who are promising to stop progress -- at least stop progress certainly on the immigration front. >> i don't think it's as innocent as just nostalgia wanting to harken back to the time of school shootings and when your kids could ride their bikes after dark. i think this is people who want it go back to a time where they had a little more power because the system was structured

differently, because there were fewer rights for blacks, because there were fewer rights for immigrants, because there were fewer rights for women. women couldn't even own credit cards until the '70s. credit cards weren't created until the late '50s, but it took 16 years before a woman could open a credit card without another man signing on. so i think there were a lot of people who would have want to go back to the time they had more power. it reminds me of when we heard the slogan make america great again. when you say again what time period are you referring to because it wasn't great for us back then. and in this poll the people who want to go back to the 1950s -- >> this what people want it go back to. >> you've done a deep dive on. >> again, i think that's a bit of a headline as opposed to what laura's talking about, which is i think it sounds good to go back before school shootings and when kids could ride their bikes

after dark. i would say don't down-play that. that is a motivator for people, but i don't know we can go back there instead of problem solving now. >> i think when you look at the groups that want the most to go back to that time, it's very instructive because when you see, for example, i think the group that wanted to go back the most, the largest percentage were whites without a college degree and the group that wanted to go back the least were blacks. so i think you can learn a lot about that time period by seeing who wants to go back and who does not. laura, your thoughts? >> i have to tell you nostalgia is only as good as those who benefit from the memory. and i think that's what laura is alluding to. while i certainly do know the theme song for the andy griffith show and did like watching it, it's not an era i would want to live in. it is about the feeling. as much as all politics is local, that's how people capitalize on it, that's how people want to plant the seeds of remember when, in some ways

it's not all that different from the question and i'm paraphrasing here are you happier now than you were five years ago or four years ago or two years ago. making people use these comparison points makes the ones that are not in power sometimes feel like, see, i have the ticket and vehicle for change. so it'll be fascinating to see how it all pans out. if it's not 13 days away now, allison, it's 12. maybe nostalgia will be on the ballot next to all the other invisible ink. >> i submit it will be. it's personal. and the feeling what you think that candidate can give you, whether it's flush toilets, john, or other -- >> i'm all for that. sign me up. i'll take a half bath, too. >> too much information. >> laura, help. >> i'm going to avoid this going down the drain. see what i did there? and we're going to talk about tribal politics up next and what's really at the root of all of this. that's the real question. and anything else you want to

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we've got some late breaking news tonight, allison. elon musk's $44 billion twitter take over is official. he's already started firing people including two other executives. that according to two sources. it's pretty unbelievable. >> he has said he plans to rethink twitter's policies in approach to free. and also says he disagrees with permanent bans for people that violates its rules, which of course has a lot of people watching what happens with form for president trump. it will have an impact. >> especially, i mean, remember it's not just an idea in a vacuum. we're talking about how close to mid-term elections in preparation for the 2024 presidential run. we know how impactful it was to candidates, when it came to the

idea of certain entitlements installed upon those campaigning in the moment and the idea what was a public announcement was revered in the same way or regard. i'm really curious to see also if president trump comes back. he said if he wouldn't. i wonder if he will. >> and also elon musk's definition of free speech. let's get right to it. let's bring in our panel. john berman back with us, and mark stewart. do you have thoughts on what this means for all of our lives? >> you guys both touched on something i thought of. will donald trump come back. and also what's elon musk's interpretation of free speech. so as a black woman on twitter if i tweet anything in support of another black woman i immediately find myself dealing with a sea of bots telling me that i am wrong for what i am doing, that i am racist, that it is wrong. so for instance brittney griner, i tweet i'm in support of brittney griner, i want her

home, i think it's unfair what is happening to her, and the reaction i get is so vile and so disgusting it makes me not even know if this is a place i want to share my free speech. now, when he says he believes in free speech, does he take care of that? does he get rid of the n-word i'm often called relentlessly. does he say these are things you can say to people and other things you can't say to people? how do you be a referee of hate and oftentimes that's what i get on social media. and no one is there to regulate it, and in fact it is normal. this is what i do, allison, and this is an honest thing. i'm going to tweet anything, something innocuous in support of someone else, perhaps a marginalized group of people. i know without fail there will be so much hate in response to what i tweet. so is that the free speech he speaks of? i don't understand why we live in a world where supporting

someone requires you to be a racist on the other side. he said in a statement today he believes in humanity. well, how about the humanity of someone like me? >> yeah, he has a lot of questions to answer about things like that. mark, your thoughts. what does it mean for all of us? >> i think it means a new era of twitter. if you are the owner of a grocery store or a car dealership, airline, insurance agency, the list goes on and on. if you need to make a change in the way you do business you bring in new people. so back to the point cari made about what is the definition of free speech, well, i don't want to speak for elon musk but perhaps the previous c suite had a different view what constitutes free speech than elon musk. if he wants to move forward with all of this, he is going to have to find people who agree with him and who see eye to eye. i also think it's important to point out that even though some very big names have departed from twitter, it doesn't mean everyone who works there is going to be fired.

you still need people to do the day in, day out tasks of administration of this very, very valuable platform. perhaps there are people elon musk will meet during his visits who feel the same way as him. maybe these people will be elevated, but clearly a new era, a whole new view of principle. that's why we are seeing a huge change. >> here's a statement from musk about all this. twitter obviously cannot become a free-for-all hell scape, although it is, where anything can be said with no consequences. in addition to adhering to laws of the land our platform must be warm and welcoming to all, where you can choose your desired experience according to your preferences just as you can choose for example to see movies or play video games ranging from all ages to mature. >> the statement goes on and he's basically begging advertisers to stick around, don't quit me. that's the bulk of the statement because he's nervous people are

going to rebel against him. my question is the guy has now taken over a company he didn't want and he fired the people who were there immediately. is he going to take it seriously is this something elon musk is going to care about in a week or two weeks? >> right, because you have to put the infrastructure in. if you're going to make this a welcoming place and fight the stuff you're talking about, you have to pay attention to it. >> look, there are people overdependent on twitter. i think twitter dictates too much in parts of society, but there are people who depend on it for information. it would be nice to see a responsible steward of said place. >> thank you all very much. great insights. great to see you guys. all right, now will the climate crisis be on the ballot this mid-term election? actress and activist jane fonda has a lot to say about that, and we're going to talk to her next.

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we're talking a lot on this show about the issues that are going to decide the upcoming election, the economy, abortion, immigration, the future of our democracy. but how about the future of our planet? you know according to a recent report over just the last year alone climate change caused by humans has affected 96% of the world's population, and here in the u.s. the results unfold all around us in the most devastating ways. you've seen them, hurricanes, fires, floods, drought, extreme heat. my next guest is fighting to make sure that this november climate is on the ballot. joining me now is actress, activist, and author the great jane fonda. it's so nice to see you.

naung for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me. i appreciate it. it's good to see you. >> you know, i think it's so remarkable your career but how you've used your platform particularly something that impacts all of us. i mean in the long run or short-term you are up against and you've been fighting against perceptions of climate change being something that's a conspiracy theory, being dismissed as that, not being taken seriously. can you just talk to me a little bit about the work you're doing and why you have felt so compelled to ensure that you fight this good fight? >> well, i mean we are facing a civilizational crisis. this has never happened before since human beings have existed. we face a real climate catastrophe, and, you know, i like a lot of people, i have young grandchildren. i want to have a future for them. i don't -- i see how angry young

people are because we really have put their future in jeopardy. >> you know what's stunning is even with the current standards, meeting that goal you just stated seems to be something that at the present time is not as attainable as is hypothesized on these things. and you know there's a cost to it, not just the cost in terms of what it does to our children, our future, our grandchildren, the future of human civilization, but it actually has a cost associated. i mean the extreme weather that has resulted, it's cost billions of dollars to the overall economy, the overall world. and jane, this is not a problem for just a select few. i mean 96% of the world is impacted by the global climate change. it really is in it all together. but do you feel as though it's being taken seriously globally in that realm? >> yes. i think other countries are much more serious about it because they're more impacted, perhaps.

but, you know, over 70% of americans are concerned about the climate crisis. the problem is that too many of our elected officials, democrats and republicans, take money from the fossil fuel industry. consequently the real important legislation that we need to stem the burning of fossil fuels is not happening, and that's why recently i started the jane fonda climate pact to get climate champions elected to office so we can begin to, you know, pass legislation that will do something important, and we only have five election cycles left and that includes this november. >> and we've got 12 days left until the mid-term elections coming up. and, you know, democracy is on the ballot, the issues surrounding abortion are on the ballot. you've got the actual different legislative initiatives and ballots across the country. you've got people who are denying the elections on the ballot, just to name a few of

the things people are grappling with. do you think people are looking at climate as a very important factor in their decision leading up to the mid-term elections? i mean obviously it's something that ought to be contemplated. have the politicians, have the incumbents, have the candidates on both sides done a good job of bridging that gap for the public and the electorate? >> well, i think the media is partly responsible for the problem. i've been traveling the country working with climate champions who are running for office, and they are very clear they all have a climate plan. they know what we're facing. and the people that i met in these states as i was campaigning they are aware, and they are going to be voting for these people because they're concerned. i mean you take, for example, you know, the hurricane ian that just devastated parts of florida. now just imagine that two days later another one hits and then another one hits in texas and then another one hits in -- you

know, it's pretty soon we're not going to have time to rebuild and collect ourselves and pay for what needs to be paid for. and, you know, it's just going to get worse. and we just have to act fast. >> you know, just using your celebrity, using your platform to raise more awareness and about the urgency, we know the clear and present dangers that are presented and posed, and it's not lost on me youria teak of the media coverage and what can feel myopic on certain topics i know people complain a great deal about. and i can appreciate that. but in terms of using your celebrity, i wonder the way that you have gone about it and beyond, the way you've gone about to be consistent, what do aiomake of what we're seeing in some, you know, art museums, in some areas of the world where people are throwing food onto revered works of art as a way to draw attention? do you think that this tactic is

something that is getting the attention and moving the needle in a way that, say, your work has? >> it certainly gets attention, but i think that it makes people angry. you know, i have been arrested a lot of times for engaging in civil disobedience, which is doing things that are against the law if a law is wrong. but i have avoided, for example, blocking freeways and things that will -- you know, the average person wants to get home for dinner and wants to get to where their kids are in school or whatever, so i'm not particularly -- i understand where the anger comes from. i'm not in favor of doing things that are going to make the average working person angry because it affects them and their lives. >> and, you know, some argue it affects the way they view the overall movement. that could be counter productive.

>> possibly. >> all i know is the amount of work being done and the amount through your pack as well, thank you for joining us this evening and making sure the lines are drawn and bridges are felt for the electorate on what is on the ballot even if some things feel like they're in invisible ink. thank you, jane. >> thanks a lot. i appreciate being here. thanks. >> thank you. >> really interesting. >> wasn't it? just thinking about actually her response about the tactics being used now because that's getting a lot of attention in terms of defacing artwork and what that means and that overall conversation. well, what's more important to you, this art or the long-term, you know, sustainability of our planet? it's really fascinating. >> i think so too, but i appreciate what she said she tries not to do things that gets in the way of working people because you need their support for your cause. you don't want to work at cross-purposes with people. look, jane fonda has been politically active and socially conscience forever.

she is somebody who has been doing this for decades. so she walks the walk here. >> she certainly does, and she looks damn good doing it. i was like can we lower my lights? >> yes, we agree on that. here's a question, where's lebron james and that's not rhetorical. where is he. >> i think he should be playing for the lakers. i get your pointch. >> here's the point, he played a huge role in the 2020 election but he's oddly missing from mismid-term season. why? that's next.

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star athletes are championing social causes and political endorsements. but do celebrities actually move the needle? so here's who's out on the stump this week. lynn manuel miranda is something after stacey abrams after paul rudd. ufc champion henry -- is turning out for kari lake. there's a whole bunch of them. can you think of a time that a celebrity has actually moved the needle for a candidate? >> trump got himself elected. i think we all and me personally -- while we underestimated the pure celebrity side of trump look who's running for senate this year in arizona not accidently as trump supported candidates dr. oz. he's a tv celebrity. herschel walker why is he a

candidate in georgia -- >> because running as a celebrity certainly works. so here as you'll see donald trump, ronald reagan, al franken, arnold shwarzenegger. we have jerry springer. >> jerry springer was actually a mayor before -- >> that's right. what i love about this, though, sunny bono was actually during alive before color film. a black and white photo from i don't know what era. >> i take your point but that's different than a celebrity endorsement. so you don't think it moves the needle. >> i do. to mention lebron you mention he's been so quiet for a long period of time. his organization he made sure people were getting out to vote. >> in 2020 it was huge. >> it was huge. i actually partnered with him to do a couple different projects to make sure people were getting to the polls and it mattered

because what happens is whether they want to be or not they're heroes, they're idols. and people pay attention to what they're doing. and it becomes not necessarily trendy because i don't want to say they were doing it for trend but brings awareness to issues to people who would otherwise not care. if you have someone who has been able to -- and this is why people argue about lebron's effect. there is such a thing about the lebron effect. he has it on and off the court. >> where is he? >> he purposely i believe is not speaking because no matter what he does, no matter what he says is criticized. and i think this year he wants to focus on in his 20th year of playing ball his family. i do believe if someone he believes in says can you explicitly get out and stump for me, he will. but he's being very particular.

he's not lending out that endorsement just because. because it cost him too much, too much peace i believe for his family, for his friends, for the team and people have to have that balance. >> john, do you think of a time? >> yeah, i think the last biggest time is when oprah came out for obama early. now, look, barack obama probably would have won without oprah, but when she came out for him it became huge for being the it. the mccain campaign ran a whole series of ads calling obama the biggest celebrity in the world. i don't know if you remember that. and it sounded just like that. so, yeah, i think oprah mattered for obama. and mccain had a hard time fighting against that. i remember doing how he had wilfred brenly on the campaign trail. it's not a joke.

>> that's why it was so important. hillary clinton, first woman -- oprah says i prefer obama. that was a big moment. >> i just feel like obama had a star factor anyway. there was something about him for me perspective wise, not even working in politics, but there's something about him that was an "x" factor there. you watch certain people and twrou pay attention and you believe them, and there's an authenticity. and yes, oprah boosted that. >> and they did find after oprah came out for him, northwestern university did a study they believe directly linked her to voter turnout and donations. >> she went and worked for it, and i think we forget because, you know, he was in power for eight years. he actually won by a very little bit in the primaries. he only barely edged out hillary clinton. so did oprah make that difference, who knows, but

couldn't hurt. >> i actually felt guilty to this day and i did this piece -- >> he's a lovely man. >> laura, your thoughts. >> on wilfred -- it's funny to think about the definition of celebrities versus where people are now like tiktok influencers. that's who's invited to the white house now. that's who they're trying to covet, the idea who's going to have a similar influence that even in the years were big name celebrities. now it's people who have memes, now people running the game in terms of tiktok and social media. as you know the biden administration tapped into that this very week trying to have their influence. so it's just fascinating to think about how quickly and turned on a dime influence and influencers are no longer who we think of as celebrities, so to speak. >> such a great point particularly with younger people. there's also micro influencers

different groups are using for your own neighborhood, your own community, people you trust. so you're right the game has changed. >> micro influencers, t microaggression. >> microwaves. >> you never know. >> laura, sorry about that. >> no, i want to hear more -- this is not the toilet conversation. everything else i'm with you. you know speaking of maybe not a microaggression here but a maximum aggression we're talking about anti-semitism and bigotry we all know he made anti-semitic comments that shocked the world, but did they shock the people closest to kanye west, and what should it mean for the accountability there perhaps in the conversations we'rie having? because it turns out he's got a

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>> we have more revelations tonight about yay, probably known as kanye west, we are learning that he has long been fascinated by adolf hitler. a business executive who worked for you said that at the time, kanye, created a hostile work environment part of his obsession with hitler. that obsession runs so deep that apparently he originally wanted to title his 2018 album, hitler, and that was later released titled, ye, frankly the new revelation is coming with a slew of deeply antisemitic remarks from ye on multiple podcast and tv shows, and i think yeah alison, i mean

how many people have known and were enablers, comes to mind in a context like this, i wonder about the accountability factor of who knew what, when, and who profit in the meantime? >> well it sounds like some people were so disgusted and thought that it was so oppressive. it wasn't a fascination with hitler, some people described it as an admiration for the naughty's. and then some people left, i mean it sounds like they had to actually leave their positions of execute a, because it was so pronounced, the admiration for the natzi. he had expressed admiration for their use of propaganda and how they were able to become the, natzi, how they became so powerful. >> essentially is just stunning for me, i mean frankly. i'm a student of history, i know you are as well. just thinking about that. what perhaps even more disturbing is the collateral damage that this is happening. i mean you've got, he has a school called don the academy, it's named by his late mother. and in one instance you had the

high school basketball team, i believe and you will fail, who were not allowed to participate in a tournament. they were removed from it. i think in part because of the association with the antisemitic comment. i mean the collateral damage of this in addition to the horrible antisemitism. i mean this is perpetuated. i'm not sure that that's fair. >> the kids and say the antisemitic stuff. kanye did. and so the path they cannot participate in a tournament, as they, say the ripple effect for the people that were hurt and these horrible antisemitic comments. >> it's really, is and will continue to see what happens. i suspect it's not going to end here. but the fairness aspect needs to be discussed. tells me what you think about out there of kanye west. tweet us at alison -- and b laura coats, as they what this, because guess what? the dueling panels are coming back next! ♪ ♪ ♪

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