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>> but the midterms looming, pundits think that there could be a red wave coming and it could be a big. so let's talk about that right away with our panelist the i got a question about what could possibly happen next. senator dueling panels are back.

joining me now here, back with me, where mesh pend oreille, punaro, excuse me, ashley, alisyn. the clock will talk in a second. number one, real quick, do you think that the red wave is coming? like winter is coming -- the red wave is it coming? what do you think? >> yes, i do think there is. >> no. >> what do you? thank >> not a tsunami, but it's trending towards republicans. >> well we had yes, no, maybe so. >> listen, if it were to happen, if it does happen, or if it doesn't, or maybe so, what about the impact of twitter now? i mean it was such a big part in terms of the ability of the former president's speak. it is a lot back on the platform, what impact will it have? >> look i don't think gonna have any impact on this coming election, but i think it could have a lot to do with trump's own future, and i think it could work at a different way that people think because trump could end up reminding people what they dislike about him, and why his popularity was so low as president. >> do they want them back on twitter? >> absolutely not, but for our democracy, i think if he's on before the midterms, it's good for them.

i think if he gets on after the midterms, i don't think he becomes the republican nominee in 2024. >> what do you? thank you will be able to resist the tens of millions of followers he will be able to access again, but i think like y'all are saying, it's going to eventually remind people of all the chaos and all the just sort of the mishegoss that he created politically and it's just not going to help. >> you can get you should be back on twitter do you think? >> i think that free speech is whatever the owner of twitter wants it to be. elon musk spent 44 billion he could let the president back on if he wants. that's why you buy twitter. i think i would just like us to get to a point where we understand the difference between the first amendment and what a private company can do, if we can get to an understanding of that, sure, matter fact they can. >> i know there is twitter in real life, but twitter matters, but we always have to be mindful that it is not representative of the country!

most people are not on it, and people that are most on it are wildly on like normal people. like me. >> while that are not in the. also able to hide behind it, they don't get to have the same focus and attention and accountability. look what it is not a real life but what it also was the match that side of the flame that led to january six and that is a dangerous place i don't ever want our country to go back to. i understand a free speech versus the platform but it's dangerous and should never be let on. >> well the idea of course that your point, as the first amendment relates to what the government can and cannot. it is a private company. so it's a little bit of a misnomer to talk about the first amendment. but colloquially speaking, we are talking about free speech. but the question, why do you think that democrats would actually be benefited by his presence, and what would the republicans -- my question to think about his return? >> well you are seeing donald trump, and then you are reminded of the candidates that are asking him to support you, then you say, wait a minute, if i'm independent, undecided voter, i remember now, i don't

want that, i don't want that in my senate, i don't that in my governor's mansion, it's one thing that fares well for democrats. republicans i think you have infighting, immediately, once you don't put any size calling people names and poking at individuals if he doesn't feel like they are cheering him on and off. that is also good for democrats. >> and if you are republican, you have to be able to address these points. it will be the reminder of the microphone chasing down the hall. hey, there was a tweet, what you think about this that was the cause of concern for many republicans. >> that's, right president or former president trump has had an influence even while he's been off twitter. but there hasn't been that same focus on getting individual republican politicians on the record about every single thing that trump has said. and twitter for good or ill does not have a fact. >> if you are republican, just thinking about running for president in 2024, governor youngkin, governor desantis, governor halle, you've got to have a strategy now roy for how you are going to address president trump in any format, but especially when he tweets about you.

right? little glenn youngkin, despite. [laughs] >> i prevalent, like he's not back, and this is just perspective. [bell] >> right on. time >> are panels ready for this dual! police at the clock! >> okay, there we go. we are back here with tara palmieri, senior political correspondent for pop also bell crystal also at large of the bowler and journalist moth -- this have all of you. guys let squash their panel! and to do that we have to make some bold predictions panel. okay is a red wave coming? >> no i don't think, so i think it's going to be a nail-biter. i think all of these races are going to be really close, that's why you are seeing so much polling within the margin of error, i think on both sides what i think is happening is that they have democrats women, coming out, some are still charged about row, but yet independent voters who are pocket thinking about pop about issues. who are might be most effective

about what's happening within the last two weeks before the election which is right now and a lot people are not feeling very good about the economy economy, crime, republicans are really seizing on. okay so why is it not a right away? >> because i don't think it's a wave unless it's a washout. i think some of the states you are going to see democrats perform like you are seeing in ohio right now at the fact that fetterman is still not polling that, i think at six points ahead of oz. as of this week cnn had a poll. i think the republicans should be away further ahead of them and these are seeing so close. it's not about wait, what is gonna look like? i mean the republicans takes the house? >> the democrats like the senate? i mean what you are you predicting? >> i think that definitely if the republicans will take the house but is it going to pay 15 states or is it gonna be 30 states i think it'll be more like 50 states. i think the sun is probably maybe a recount in georgia, because either raphael warnock or herschel walker are going to get more than 50% of the votes. probably not. that's what's required to win. you might see a recount, i

think you are going to see a lot of elections not decided on election night. so i think that the senate is still split. >> to get comfortable, everybody, it's gonna get take a while to get results. >> right away? >> no, not red wave, i think people overly estimating it now, and i think democrats hold the senate. i within that they would gain states in one or two seats in the senate. probably lose the house, but surprise some house districts and the new york times polling looking at democrats outperforming where biden was and three out of the four districts they polled. they put each individual districts. what i have seen personally right around the country, one in kansas, one and nevada, one in new mexico, one of pennsylvania actually now these polls you gotta take, pose a complicated and difficult and we don't know who's gonna turnout. if young people turn out, democrats do well, if young people don't turn out that republicans do well but no wave in the size of a massive if ideation in fact it'll be the normal reaction against the party and power. but not even that much of. it's >> okay, so? >> i think it all depends on your expectation and your definition of a red wave so

what i think is going to come down to what i think a bill factor right now is that none of us can factor in as early voting. we've already seen 12 million people cast their votes so we cannot be influenced by any of what's happening in these last -- generally thus democrats? >> exactly. so i think it's hard to make these predictions, and we have learned at the last few elections have taught us anything, it's hard to really trust these polls and rely on them i mean there was a time where we all treated polls like gospel and we learned our lesson about that so i think it's really hard to make these predictions when we have these two factors at play now in the increasing sense from a lot of people that the polls are unreliable. also the impact of the early voting so for the next two ways people are going to be continuing voting, and as howard pointed out, we may not know on election night, or for a few days after, what the impact is going to be, but i do think that there is the possibility of saying some surprises. outside of congress, i think we can see a lot of surprises in the gubernatorial races. here in new york we might see the first republican being elected to government in 20

years and not just any republican, what a really far-right trump loyalists so there could be a few surprises. >> what are you also thinking the conventional wisdom of the house republican, the senate states democrats? >> i think that because as you pointed, out of the congressional wisdom, that's what we keep hearing and keep hearing, keep hearing. but what did we keep hearing in 2016? two seconds come on. >> [bell] i totally agree with that! >> perfect timing guys. >> that was impressing! >> i have to stand for those. guys >> i know, i. no >> i'm sorry? our panel was so fantastic! >> well i don't know, they say that you are only as depressed as the color you are wearing. and you sound bright yellow! so i'm pretty happy! here comes the sunshine everywhere! [laughs] you loved, it all right. >> it is unable to get a white piping, in other words, a silver lining, better luck next time guys! >> [laughs] you guys did well also! >> of course you did! >> of course, everyone is good! we want to know what you all think? will there be a red wave? if so, what that? tweet us at the laura coats and

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a secret hearing how today in the mar-a-lago probe with the former president trump's lawyers and the justice department. though behind closed toys, cnn has learned that this hearing was related at least in part the doj's ongoing demands to make sure that all the documents marked classified had been returned to federal government. back with, me ponnuru ramesh, and former u.s. attorney, harry lippman, who was also the host of the great podcast talking that perry. what do you make of this? the idea that this is a

closed-door proceeding, also in new york or in florida, why are they here? why does that tell you? >> of course it's a concealed proceeding, it tells me that it's got to do with a grand jury. there is a grand jury here but pretty big news because it's the florida team that has always been down and florida. that was going in front of the chief judge today. what does that tell me? they are positioning themselves a little more to brang an adventurous prosecution against trump if they bring in from mar-a-lago, in d.c., which is advantageous to doj for many reasons. >> why because the jury poll? >> that's a big, a big start. it's the jury pool. especially problems down in florida. will they run into judge cannon down in florida? they have you know certain expertise in d.c., and they could be leading with the notion of the national security, you know, losses and operation. but basically jury pool is the big one. >> but when you look at this

too, we still have not heard about the resolution with the special master over pointed overlooking all these documents. did this tell you that there is an eye towards working it out when there is behind closed doors? or behind the judge saying, i need a scheduling order, let's get it down now, and they're such interest and this case, the only way to keep it under the radar is sealed? >> i don't think it's that. i think it's really is because ground jury proceedings are supposed to be secret. my best guess, first of all the dreary point that you are really right, sort of three or four different ways, the executive privilege kind of bogus claims, that trump has always so bearing down on him. but here, i actually thank, i don't think the search warrant, because if they are sorted, just the documents, i don't think it's just nice talk, i think it's also a subpoena. maybe even the original march 11th subpoena so i think that doj served a subpoena and trump has some belief that he's trying to raise with judge how,

this is sort of -- this tea leaf reading, but the tea leaves and d.c.. that's what they are fighting about, and if he loses that means that the subpoena commands, they original subpoena says, give us everything from everywhere. remember, doj suspects but doesn't seem to have enough to rise to probable cause, they still have some. it could be saying that they didn't comply fully without subpoena, and let's talk about it but in a secrecy, just because as a granary issued a subpoena, technically. >> we'll tell you, when i hear it subpoena, i can't help with what the january six upon us. that was, no issue to the former president of the united states. it was on the backdrop of the january six committee and the notion that democracy being in peril it was a clear and present danger. you wonder how this plays politically. because you do have the overwhelming discussion and talking points from at least the trump team of this is yet another attack, political witch hunt, et cetera. how does this play, do you think? because this isn't part based

on mar-a-lago, but would voters conflates this with say the january six, or so many other things? what do you think? >> well i think a lot depends on how it shakes out in court, i think that there is a fair amount of likelihood that a lot of people will jumble a lot of these things together. i think that sometimes it could be a little hard to keep track of what's going on in florida, over in georgia. >> in new york. >> yeah, yeah exactly! and then washington d.c. as well. i don't think that's getting to what we are talking about earlier, i don't think a it has a big effect on this midterm election. but certainly if we have more documents produced, because of a subpoena, and that this affects how we look at this case, what kind of defense trump can really provide for himself, then i think it can have affects down the line. >> that's the, part actually, that the overwhelming questions being overarching always -- why do we still have it? why do you fight so hard to

keep them? and it puts republicans, frankly, who are in some respects trying to focus on this election and 2024, and maybe to extend a tent for poll, maybe to extend the a price, to have to keep addressing that question that is out there. it's a difficult one to resolve if you are the republicans. >> trump is like the ghost of legal problems past, present, and future. [laughs] >> and i don't mean to make light of it, but it just groundhog day over and over with him and his legal issue. >> by the way those are great bill murray movies, screwed, and groundhog day. i saw what you did there! >> i was trying my best! >> that was beautiful! keep going! >> the other thing i would say, i don't think it actually plays deciding factors and the midterm elections, i appreciate doj's a measured approach and making sure that they crossed every t and dots every eye, but look i don't trust donald trump. we've already seen that he has confidential documents in his possession i'm ready for him or down to go hard and fast here.

because again, it's not about the politics of it. there are issues of national security that won't address affects democrats, they'll also affects republicans. and i think -- i'm really looking for doj to strike a harder tone on this case right now. >> you have been a u.s. attorney, you know that frankly there is the prudence versus the patience of the american public, and the court of public opinion. many people are still trying to recover from the mueller years of expectations. that this is going to happen right now, and what's going to happen, and a target of one. how do you see it in terms of what actually has expect, in patients? >> well first, ashley point is excellent! because remember, we have been told that doj suspects, not just that he hasn't given it all up, but also that he has a importance national security documents. imagine after what we have to? number five, or six excuses, if the last thing that copped up is about significant actual security implication. for one they will have to get, it for two he looks terrible!

i think that with every move, you know it's funny, like twitter or whatever, maybe i should talk about twitter tonight -- but it seems that there are a lot -- maybe even the league divided in this country between saying come on, whatever, happened okay et cetera. my sense in these last two or three weeks, there is a lot of actions in a lot of fronts, putting a lot of heat on donald trump. and doj, generally does things without announcing it and last trump's forces them to and leads with this ten. but it feels to me like they are really moving aggressively on many fronts. including the particular mar-a-lago in the grand jury when they push kash patel a couple weeks ago, we learned that you do. >> in a number of times. >> he. did >> he was a designate to actually have the documents, post presidency, in some respects? >> he could've been but also the guy who said, oh he magically declassified it. but what is said to me is the prosecutor, you may have had

the same instinct. they are thinking about trump. they want him in to tell his story now -- so i don't know, i think that there is a pretty rapid movement by doj standards, which can be glacial just in this last month. >> i mean bureaucrats not knowing further experience, but you know what a lot is taking place, thank you so much! alison, when you think about this there's a lot to keep a straight, a lot to try to understand, and to have this flow chart of all the rebel event matters. and i wonder to what extent, for an eye towards not just 12 days from now, but 2024, the exhaustion politically, even with his own party. >> i mean also in terms of the political implications, isn't donald trump in previous to this? haven't we seen that his ardent supporters think that these are sort of being persecuted with all of these different investigations. so i'm not sure that they are political implications but they are legal implications as harry and everybody else on your panel just pointed out. and what i hear top secret

documents in a secret hearing, my ears perk up! so we will look forward to hearing what's all of that was about. >> it's almost like you are a journalist, i'm curious. like wait a second, what can i hear about? is that a secret, tell me more about that! well it's a fair point, and we have more to come, and you know what they say, alisyn this is not directed to, you or anyone, it's a james cargo will say, if they come to, me stupid! right? let's put aside that whole stupid part for a second. the questions will pocketbook issues to decide the elections and just, how many days? >> 12! >> i'm keeping tap. >> 12 days! brilliant! ♪ ♪ ♪

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and you know the democrats, not you, not you, never you and don't call me surely, i love it. and other democrats and the president biden have some pretty good news to share, but well like recent growth and gdp, for example, and falling gas prices, it's beginning. >> yes, but there's also bad news because they have not been able to overcome of course high in play shun or a looming recession, fears, and of course skyrocketing mortgage rates today. over 7% for the first time since 2002. >> i mean it's pretty unbelievable, to thinking about that number it went up i think every week since august, and then you've got the idea of how much it takes to even have a mortgage, if you have 20% down, if you get an excellent credit rating, that already takes out a lot of people from even the running, and you combine that. it's pretty unbelievable! >> it's sad. >> it's hard, i mean it's hard for a lot of people, obviously

so that of all against those had wings. >> and that guy up to dom high, and then we'll talk about that. back now with, ramesh ponnuru and ashley allison, also joining me now, cnn political writer and analysts, that was the last you heard, wonderful, harry enten, welcome back! how are you? >> i'm doing okay, i feel like i've drawn a big party though i missed the dueling banjo's earlier. but we'll get into! >> did you bring us frantic today? as you do right now. >> i actually play the saxophone, i'm more of a wood wings type of guy than i am -- >> a kenny g among, guys who know! i love it! okay we are done, back to allison out, i'm just getting no seriously. what is the biggest thing that of these people? is the economy, stupid? is that? right >> now that is. right but sometimes it's not, right but in this particular election, it is. by its white nationally for the key swing states, arizona, georgia, nevada, pennsylvania, what is a top issue of according to a voters? it's the economy or inflation. so unlike perhaps any of the

other midterms, presidential years are often about the economy midterms, can very very, but this year is absolutely about the inflation. no doubt about it! >> so either republicans or democrats, are you doing enough to message that? are you capitalizing on this, if it's a number one issue, a lot is made about the november comments, et cetera. if that is it, are democrats doing enough to stay in the majority? >> i think you have to be sensitive to voters real life, everyday challenges of putting food on the table and making or rant but i think you draw the contrast is that democrats are doing things to try to improve the quality of their life. they are trying to lower prescription drugs, trying to give you relief, whereas republicans want to cut taxes for corporations that are doing price gouging right now. and if you can really walk that line and say, we are doing as much as we can and we will continue to fight for you, i think that it aligns with people. i know that it's an important issue, but i still don't think that is the only issue voters are going to vote on --

>> but i'm it's also where, i mean first of all economy, inflation, huge umbrella topic. people think about what's tangible. i know how much it cost me to put gas in my tank and this is a sustained problem for people. gas prices, where are things shaping that now? >> well if you look at gas prices, right, it really depends on what state you are kind of looking at, and when you are kind of measuring from. which makes a kind of interesting, and you know in georgia for example, i believe that gas prices are actually down a little bit from where they were all a year ago. but in some places, what you see especially out west is that gas prices are upwards of 20%. up where they were a year ago. and perhaps it's not so surprising that perhaps the best republican pick up opportunity is in fact in the state of nevada, where gas prices are well up over 20%. so it's really just kind of depends, and i think that's kind of what we all go through if we have a car, always looking for that gassed asian. you know down the, wrote that maybe as a few cents up a little bit less, or go over they george washington high school, as my mother might do, and philip new jersey where oftentimes you find to produce

chris gas prices than in new york. >> and then put it in new jersey, -- >> well you know -- what they. do-it-yourself [laughs] but it's not just, gaskets groceries as well. and while i don't think the democrats have been particularly good at messaging on this, i'm also not sure that there is a message that works, i think when people paychecks are not keeping up with their bills, they are going to be unhappy. they are going to reach that conclusion on their own. and they are going to be unhappy with the power party in power. when you could also say that the democrats underestimated the problem, contributed to the problem, and then decided to re-package everything they were already for as a solution to the problem? i think that creates a real dilemma for the party in power. >> that's an important point because you can say that, we are not in a recession but if people feel like they are problems, if they feel like the rental prices given the mortgages and cause a food, i mean this is what people are looking at and feeling. if politics is about, that what do you do? >> i mean i don't know exactly

what you do because the people can feel it, right? we are talking about mortgages. a lot people pay rent, i know i pay rent and i know my reds is -- they want to add 25% rate from last year. if you look at some of the major metropolitan areas where these key senate races are occurring, you know if you and that go back out west, you are seeing these huge rises. we are seeing these rises and rents all over the place. in some cases, we are seeing these rises upwards of 20, 25% in these key battleground states. but again, it hits different places differently, and i think that's what's so interesting about this midterm election is that it i wouldn't be surprised in southeast versus the northeast versus the southwest. we can have one of these instances where we are living in a national lies around but maybe things will just break a little bit differently in certain parts of the country. >> that's the point you raised earlier, two, about the difference. >> yeah think even within a state, you may say that i want the leader of my state to be from this party, but i want the person who's going to make a critical twice on roe v. wade to be of this party. and so i think that it will be this in the charm when you see

states splitting on party line. i also think that we have been talking about how we people need to be campaigning. one of those and changes that candidacy to be and friends of voters and letting them know that you can trust me to protect you, and try to improve the quality of your life. that is better than any political ad can ever be. >> you know, got a point there, alisyn i mean i like candidate who know the price of a gallon of milk. it seems like you are in touch if you do. >> what about crudités? [laughs] >> i like a little bit of a veggie tray, myself. >> be, to both. i don't know what you call. it >> got to boot, years. >> i don't care what you, college as long as it's delicious? >> but i do believe with ramesh, what can democrats do or say about? this it is only so much you can do or control. so what can they say? and by the way, if republicans, and there's a red wave, if republicans are swept in, are they going to be able to solve all the economic or global economic problems overnight?

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underway tomorrow night, between the phillies and the asteroids, but when the players take the field, they will be not any u.s. born black players among them. here is how the astros manager dustin baker feels about it. >> well, i don't think that's something that baseball you know should really be proud of. you know? because it's -- it looks bad, it lets people know that -- you know they didn't take a year or even a decade to get to this point. but there is help on the way, you can tell by the member afghan american number one draft choices. the academies are producing players, so hopefully in the near future, we won't have to talk about this anymore, or

even be in the situation. >> so he was responding there to this new analysis from the associated press that defines, as we said, not a single american born black player expected to be on the field for either team. and it's a far side that that's happened since 1950, seven decades ago. we are back with tara palmieri, carrie champion, and bill crystal. jerry, is this enough normally this year? or major league baseball doing something wrong? >> i don't think it's an anomaly, i think that now that we have a world series that will be on such a huge stage, people can see a big problem that baseball has had for many, many years. that has been talked about for many, many years. baseball, in large part, it's considered a suburban white sport. for many different reasons, you hear dusty mentioned the economy. we all know that may very major league baseball team has an academy in the dominican republic. and that is where they are getting most of their players. i'll go and i share the story with below, i used to host a show and i remember gary shelf

at lamar, not former baseball player world series -- at the time, said baseball, you will see, we will no longer have any american born black players. that is just a fact. he said because of the way in which the baseball teams are going to grab these players from the dominican republic and they can find them for a fraction of the cost. and a lot of it has to do with how you recruit, and what you are looking for. now i know in some areas, especially the impoverished areas, you don't have baseball fields. so we're not trying to recruit players from. there also, in just on a very basic level, i take a russell wilson, if you will, or a kyler murray. both quarterbacks in the national football league what opportunities to play in the major and they decided not to. it was this promise that baseball does. it's very difficult, go to college, go to the minors, and then maybe you'll make it to the majors. and then some people cannot really wait that long. especially if you come from a culture and a community that wants that payday if you will. that wants to get that

immediate reward. these players cannot wait for that promise, it's not conducive for the lifestyle. you want to go and you want to play with people who look like you and make you feel familiar. i make you feel comfortable. >> it's just that simple. >> demographics are interesting. so the mlb demographics players, 62% right, 28 and a half percent hispanic. black 7 point 8.2%. asian 1.8%. and while we were talking about how this is a 75th anniversary of jackie robinson. and it's just -- you know it's very notable that after 50 years, they are going to be any u.s. black players and the world series. >> yeah what jackie robinson, and up here in new york, and he was a figure in the 6 days, if you are just and politics and baseball which is the only 2 things that i was interesting, and a middle school, high school, he was a great -- liberal republican, i think he was a rockefeller delegates in the 96 for convention. that booed when each are to go to the -- for the delegates for the extremism. so i admire him as a political

figure and of course for baseball. but dusty baker's, as a manager, that's good. former -- is the first black manager and that's great! that's a 1970s, that's late. so baker is a wonderful character, so maybe that makes up for the tiny bit. >> i mean as karen was saying, there will be diverse players, the field is not just a wash and white faces, but it is different that there aren't he was born black players. >> i am not a big sports aficionado, but i know that young people tend to look up to or up to these players they have their cards, they learn about the hometown, where they are from. they want to know about them, and when they don't see people that are like, that i can see why this wouldn't encourage other young, black man to want to play baseball. because they don't recognize these people is having the same background as them. something that they need to work on to recruit, to make sure that it's not just about the ethnicity because some of these players are afro hispanic, coming from the dominican

republic. it's about sharing the same culture they have on the same background, and being american. so it's going to be hard for them to keep recruiting and as they start leading these people in. >> and just say, he was a standby, there's gonna be more in the pipeline. does not interpret what he was saying? >> that's just a think that it will change. he thinks it'll be more of a conservative effort. i think the commissioner to talk about, it is a long thought out discussion of what is happening. but the promise of standby, there should be more. i don't see that changing anytime soon. in fact, i see it getting worse. that's what i would say. i don't know of an opportunity in which major league baseball really, in my mind, what i see with players, going out to look for players that are black. black players that lives in these communities that don't feel like they are seen and as you mentioned is just that simple. i can look up to, you i can't see, it and if i only sit in a football if i only say in basketball, there are sports in which that they feel recruitment, they feel, soon they feel nurtured, they feel taken care of, but he said something very important during the break. you and i were talking.

it's a white suburban sport for a large part because you that's how it successful. that's how these people are nurtured and unfortunately in these areas. you don't get an opportunity to see if, and the basketball courts, they could pale a football. >> well sure, and in some ways are you saying, well i don't if you are saying this but it is self selecting because there is the kids that are saying basically what you are saying, it's easier for me if i play football,. >> rewards, sooner baseball is a delayed promise, it is a tough anti the money is not there we want to keep you in you know if anyone is supportive with, quarterbacks i mean most of them have supportive athletes, i think of common kaepernick you talked about in his, serious i just had an opportunity to play baseball. my pants near, today i did it for so long. i decided that in high school, i'm going to actually stick with football because it does not feel welcoming, it does not feel familiar to me.

that has a lot to do with it. >> it sounds like a goofy liberal which i'm increasingly becoming i guess in the months of the other fortunately in that direction but as a kid in the 60s so i watched baseball i watched -- and mickey mantle, and bob gibson and there is something healthy about admiring hush athletes and it think about them too much in the other side of the character but no all races in all backgrounds and ethnicities and rural kids from -- i think he was and the inner cities and now some of the panic players so yeah there are some it's not the biggest you can't manufacture exactly but it is nice if you have that sense alisyn of -- what can you manufacture, which all the mlb? do >> i think you can manufacture the same with abilities academies in the dominican republic, i think you can also do something here stateside. that is what he alluded, to --

>> action or -- i'm so impressed by this. wow, you end dusty -- >> dusty and i go way back there. to not be jealous. i feel like you might be jealous. >> hey, -- no. dusty baker. no dusty baker makes a really good point. he believes that they are doing academies, here they are trying to grow good, players but this is a business. i have to say, if you can get 10 really great players from the dr versus the exact same price you get one good player here in the states, you will go to the dr. it is just not simple. there's also something and this is what i hear from players, i cannot speak, but from black players they are saying there is a sense of community for the players that are right for the players from the dominican republic that just is not there for the black players that are born here. and, that makes it difficult. i don't know about you, don't shoot like to work with people you like?

>> of course, of course, there is a reason why we are still tribal. >> and i while meeting you decide i like, you i want to work with you all the time. >> you can change, your mind you can change your mind. first impressions can be deceiving. >> right here, laura, but. we are great friends here, what a beautiful sight. a beautiful sight. but you know what, accessibility, he realized this 3200 dollars for an average home game take it in the world series, i mean talk about accessibility -- all these games, 1500 to 3200 and that is the cheaper seats, -- >> come on. to better. baseball >> wow. >> wow. look everyone, do better by talking to us on social media as, well it is time for you to sound off. we will beat your tweets coming up next. it most. its non-habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil.

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