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tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  October 27, 2022 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT

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>> good evening, the moment a gunman moment -- . their loved ones under former cruelty in addition to the loss they had to live with the rest of their lives. it's unlike just about anything we have ever seen in the wake of any other such tragedy, never mind accountability, and many points since may 24th, these grieving families have not even got the simplest answers from anyone involved in what was by any measure, and almost every imaginable way, a colossal failure.
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that cruelty of officials playing keep away with the truth continues. at a meeting today at the texas public safety commission, the -- steve mcgraw was supposed to deliver what they thought was a directors report on uvalde, containing updated timeline on other new information. instead, he provided neither. with the families of murdered victims in the room, he did not deliver it directly support. he failed to deliver on that promise, and family members in the audience response. >> you have disgraced the state, your position and the people. the officers are still under your supervision. maldonado -- have been proven to be culpable, and with new information chopping about weekly, we know that there will be others. well, steve, the time is now. if you are a man of your word, you resign. we are not waiting any longer. >> that spread across, who joins us shortly. he is the guardian of jose garcia, ten-year-old boy who was murdered while nearly 400
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members of law enforcement, including more than 90 dps officers, stood by for 77 minutes. against all training and then nothing. that in itself is a failure of the first quarter. listen to what dps thereafter across said to cross and other families today. >> if the p is an institution failed, the families, the school or failed the community of uvalde, then absolutely, i need to go. i can tell you this renault, dps as an institution, okay, right now, did not fail the community, plain and simple. >> he also said, quote, one of our core values is accountability, accept responsibility, plain and simple. well he did not do that today, and to his claim that the piece that not feel the community, already, the texas hawks committee investigating the massacre has put out a interim report saying, quote, systemic failures and agree just poor decision-making by nearly
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everyone responsible. as for dps, pacifica, at least seven of its officers have been or are still being investigated for their actions that they or lack of them. such as this officer who resigned and was later hired for a time by the uvalde school system. listen to what she said just outside the school, right after the massacre, right after she failed to do anything to stop it. >> my son is in daycare, he is not old enough. yeah, no, if my son had been in there, i will not have been outside, i promise you that. >> her son was not in there, and she did nothing. she was one of the first officers on the scene. she reported to dps director mccraw the said they did not feel the community. even worse than a single officer doing nothing to help, the deepest captain who you will hear on the radio in the next clip, he actually ordered his officers, who were about to breach the room to do nothing. >> we're making breach, comments --
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>> this is -- >> hold -- >> the breeches stand by. >> standby, he twice told the breach team there. appeared the radio communication did not work, it did -- against all active shooter training and particle, while kids are being murdered, their captain reported to mcgraw, who said today that the dps did not feel the community. back in september, when i read the story became known, but before the tape came to light, our own shimon prokupecz try to get answers from across. here's what he got instead, along with another promise to resign and another pledge of accountability. >> was there -- there's apparently footage of him inside the hallway telling people not to breach that door, have you heard that? >> i have heard a lot of things. >> this one's credibility. >> i don't know if there is or not. that is what we are investigating. >> i know. >> we will be thorough -- >> let me explain something to you, i don't want to do this -- >> i will be the first to resign, okay, i will gladly resign, tender might
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recognition to the governor, if i think that there is any culpable on the department. we will hold our officers accountable. no one gets a pass, but every officer will be held accountable. >> but you are looking at this bill of ambition you have that he may have told officers not to -- >> it's been a month since that encounter, more than five months since the massacre. shimon again try to get answers from steve mcgraw, he joins us now from austin. i want to put the moment that you try to get an answer from accra. >> sir, what happened to the director's report? >> there's new video that has been released showing officer -- >> so, there was not a direct a report that families were expecting. what did you have to say that? >> well, he basically sort of gave them a kind of overview reviewing some of the information that was already known. he at one point apologized about some of the information, but really the answers that they were looking, for the question that they had, what they were expecting today, they were told specifically by dps officials that they were going to get an update, and that did not happen. many of us were there were stunned that this did not happen. in fact, he almost seemed defensive again over his agency, over what the department of
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public safety did that day. again, laying blame on others and saying that there is more than one person, there are several factors and mistakes made. that has been his tone. i tried to ask him, even off camera at one point, he was walking around, i went over to talked him, where is the director's report? i one point, he said, today, we wanted it to be about the families. well, the only reason the families came was because they were expected to get some kind of information from him. and you know, it's just time and time again, anderson, we keep talking about. this i don't understand how it is that they don't understand what these families are going to, and what it is that they want. the families have been very clear about this, it is so cool for the and these families to sit there and explain themselves, time and time again, and then wind up with nothing. they get nothing out of it, and at some point, enough is enough
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for them. you see that today with the answer. >> it's disrespectful, it's just the start of what it is. these are families who are going to these meetings because no one is committed them with information. they are going to these meetings, trying to get information wherever they can. i don't understand why it has been so long, and we still don't have all the answers. i don't understand why there is not a public report that has already been made. macron even said to push back on what he told you back in september, now claiming that his agency did not feel. >> right, and he was kind of trying to be slick there. it was honestly -- whatever word is proper in the situation, but he knows he has a problem because of what he said to me about resigning, so how does he get out of that because there are not people who were with dps that have been fired, they have been suspended, there are under investigation for failing to do their duty, getting inside the classroom and saving those kids, so he has a problem on his sense.
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now, what he is saying is, what i really meant is that i would resign if we failed as an institution but quite frankly, the word, did not fail and evolution upbeat in the same sense, right? it's very clear that there were failures here all around, and it was a stunning moment,
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really was, to have him sit there and say this to the families. anderson, as you know, and what we have been doing on the show and doing this together, the reporting that we're doing continues. the things that we are learning paints an even more disturbing picture of what went on there. when i spoke to the mayor, the mayor of uvalde back in july, he was the first person, i find it hard to believe this, but he was the first person to come on the record and to say, there was a cover-up here. he still believes that. i spoke to him today, and he is saying to me, you are now seeing the. what you see macron do, what you see the texas dps do is a cover-up. he's going to have more to say at some point, but you can clearly see the community and the families continually
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getting frustrated and angry, and issues sad now because the grief does not stop. it will never stop, but it's being made worse by the fact that these officials are bringing them in. they invited them, come, we want to hear, and then they give them nothing. >> saying today is what the families and then giving them nothing, shimon prokupecz, appreciate your reporting, as always. you heard brett crossette today's meeting, a moment ago, isaiah cressey's legal guardian. we spoken to him a number of times before. we're glad you can join us tonight. again, for you to be there and not get answers yet again, what was your view of what happened today? >> i mean, it's ridiculous. i am upset that the peace continues to waste our time. today was a another instance. i got up five, left uvalde at five this morning to get their, and then for nothing. they don't tell us anything.
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>> i want to play just a little bit more of what you have to say to steve micro today. >> listen, -- i lost my son. your anger is not going to ouch mine -- >> i am her, if anything us, i absolutely devastated that what happened and uvalde. >> them or zion? >> thank you. >> do you ever think he will resign? do you ever think that you will get, that there will be a comprehensive report put out by dps or anybody about all the failures that occurred? >> no, i really don't because he's covering for himself, and he's covering for his agents. he's made a clear time and time again, he just refuses to do what is right, and it's disgusting. how are we supposed to trust as texans, these officers of his, when he set the bar at children being murdered as not being a failure? >> what more at this point do you want to hear from officials? >> for starters, i want to hear macron either resign or governor abbott is to fire him.
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but we need information. we need to know. we keep getting these little bits, and it's really living it over and over and over. although we relive it every day, it's always something new.
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they need to come clean, tell us exactly what they did or didn't do and then let's go from there. for you, for so many families in uvalde, it's been five months, three days since the murders. holidays are coming up, halloween in a few days, christmas, thanksgiving, how do you get through this? >> i mean, there is no real answer. you just wake up and do the day and then go back to bed. there's no -- halloween will never be the same. izzy loved halloween. he loved getting dressed up, love getting candy, just like every other child and now, i don't get to take him to get a costume. he does not get to come home and try it on and be excited. there's a hole in our household now that will never be fixed, you know, and thanksgivings after that. our holidays are never going to be the same. >> appreciate your time tonight, thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up next, a live report from the phoenix governor's race, part of which is now the subject of a criminal investigation after one at the campaign headquarters was allegedly burqas. plus former president -- has changing race to control senate. later, it's more than just voters commit a face-to-face with arm poll watchers, there's also concern from election workers themselves about their own security, we'll talk about it with former tough georgian election official.
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election official. 12 days until midterms and there's a war going on in just -- police in phoenix have arrested a man in connection with a break-in at the campaign headquarter of katie hobbs, the democratic candidate for governor. cnn's kyung lah is in phoenix for us tonight, where there's been a lot of finger pointing so far. kyung, what's the latest about this breaking? >> let's go over, first of all anderson, what phoenix police are telling us. they say that they have, indeed, arrested the suspect. a 36-year-old man, his name is daniel -- he's been booked on one count of third degree burglary. now, here's what the phoenix police did not say. they did not say that the burglary at katie hobbs's headquarters or campaign
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headquarters in phoenix was politically motivated. it does not appear that there's any evidence that it was. this appears to be an unfortunate crime, and that is not the assumption that the hobbs campaign was working under when they released some statements last night and certainly we are seeing the repercussions of that today, politically, anderson. >> so, kari lake what held what -- an emergency press conference this evening, what did she say? >> i would characterize it more as a political victory lap. so, for about an hour, i would say, kari lake courted the local press in order to badger the press and to talk about how she felt that she was a victim of incorrect headlines, and incorrect framing of based on the hobbs statement last night. one phoenix political operative, a republican, told me the very simply that hobbs is the victim
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of a small burglary, but lake is the winner in this story. >> is there a sense in what voters think about this? i mean, is it a big story there? obviously, you know, there's the economy, there's a lot of issues that voters are caring about. >> yeah, you got it right on the head. it's something like this, which is really maybe a 24-hour story, a blip, really, for people who are really paying attention to what's happening in arizona are being -- click at a couple sensational headlines on social media. is this going to motivate anyone to vote? is this going to change the way anyone is going to vote for either katie hobbs or kari lake? that's unclear. what we do know is that voters do move based on the economy. that's what we keep hearing from voters over and over again, that they are worried about the cost of gas, the cost of the price of living, the issues of democracy. these are some of the more substantive issues that people are really thinking about, anderson.
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>> kyung lah, appreciated. also in arizona, the nonpartisan -- recently switched the rating of republican blake masters effort to unseat senator mark kelly back to toss-up from lean democrat. here to talk about the implications, cnn chief political correspondent, -- former vermont governor and democratic national commissioner right now. governor dean, how much trouble do you think the democrats are in if they lose the arizona senate seat in the midterms? >> look, i expect to pick up two or three seats in the senate for the democrats. i don't expect mark to lose a seat. look, you know, trump is inserted himself into this election. so if you vote for, you know, a right-wing maga republican, you're basically asking for more years of trump. there's not a big appetite for that among the american people. so, we will see. you know, i'm not worried about kelly's sea. he's going to have to work hard. he's only ahead by half a point now, according to this poll. the polls have been wrong a lot. the turnout around the country, i'm -- in the early turnout is much more democratic than it was in 2020 for the democrats. so, we will see. the
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answer is nobody knows and pundits make their living making pronunciations of which they know nothing, and i won't pretend i'm going to be any wiser than the pundits. >> it's a senate majority leader, chuck schumer, was caught on a hot mic in new york today talking to president biden about democrats chances in the senate, to do you want to play some of that? [inaudible] >> do you think he's right? are democrats in trouble in georgia? >> he's not a pundit, he's the senate majority leader, so he knows what he's seeing in his internal polling, what he's hearing on the ground, and georgia is incredibly critical. i have to say that i sent that hot mic moment to a senior democrat and i got the head in hand emojis back. so that kind of gives you everything you need to know about not just that moment, but about what it says. they are concerned, very concerned about georgia with all of these allegations against herschel walker which, of course, he denies. has not
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done anything to move the needle. for lots of reasons. one of which is that the republican on the top of the ticket for governor, governor kemp, is popular and is doing quite well. but there are lots of other senate races that they're very focused on, including what you were just talking about in the governor, arizona, they're also starting to worry about new hampshire, where there is an incumbent democrat there. and, of course, there is nevada, which is a place where there is an incumbent democrat in a neck and neck race, trying to hold on to that seat. it is true across the board. >> governor dean, that senator bernie sanders -- criticize democrats for not having an emphasis on the economic message for working people heading into the midterms. do you think democrats have talked
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enough about economic issues or were they going to take a blame for the economy no matter what? >> they were going to take the blame for the economy no matter, what but i think biden's got a pretty good job on. that he's out there every day talking about the numbers. the problem is, the numbers are lagging indicator -- is not the numbers, the lagging indicators, the inflation rate, price of groceries, all this kind of stuff. the republicans, these people, a lot of these republicans are crazy. and i put herschel in that way. i think blake masters is now playing with a full deck. their election deniers, they want to ban abortion -- out in arizona, masters was talking about banning contraception. he thought that the court's decision griswold, which was almost a century, what is a century, go 70, 80 years ago, should've been her first. i mean, this is insane. i don't think at the end of the day that the public wants this kind of stuff in america. we've had four years of that with trump. i think biden has been refreshing. i think the economy doing is doing pretty well, compared to the way trump left it. that's why i remain optimistic. i really do. -- had
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to say about abortion, you can vote for him in a libertarian state like new hampshire. >> dana, you have a special coming up on saturday night, eight eastern, i know you sat down with doug emhoff, the second gentleman of the united states. what did he have to say? >> anderson, in the series, i try to talk to people who are in the news, tried to get to know them, what it's like to be them. i've been wanting to talk to him for a long time, because he's writing a new playbook. there is never been a second gentleman, because there's never been a female vice president. so, we talked about that and set up kind of the gender bending idea of what he does, and the idea of being a supportive male partner. take a listen. >> i think there are a lot of men who intellectually want to support their female partners, and then when it gets to that point, it is hard. it's hard on your ego. you said you have a healthy ego, have there been moments like that?
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>> like i said, you have to put your ego aside, it's not about you. i will be giving speeches and one of the things i say is men need to support women. >> don't just think you're being supportive. don't just say you're being supportive. be supportive. >> one, it's the right thing to do and then man, okay, you need to actually do it. don't just think you're doing it, a lot of women in the audience start looking -- sometimes it's hard and sometimes it's not what you expect. but it is the right thing to do. and if i can set an example doing it, i'm very grateful for that. >> so, we talked more about that topic, anderson, about his fate. he's the first jewis h
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person in this role and he took us on a tour of the grounds in the naval observatory, where he and the vice president live. >> dana bash, thank you. how are dean as well, thank you so much. once again, you can see dane's special report, being the second gentlemen, this saturday 8 pm eastern time right here on cnn. still to come tonight, we've been telling you about the reports of voter intimidation in arizona. armed men monitoring ballot drop boxes at night. election workers are also worried, they say, about their safety out of the midterm votes. some say not enough federal money is being tapped to beef up security. we will take a look at that and we will talk with former director of elections in fulton county, georgia, who said he resigned here after his staff's months of harassment, racial slurs, and death threats. early in the program, when reporting in the uvalde shooting, we noted that -- officers have been or are still being investigated for their actions that day. when we were saying that, we told you
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and death threats. early in the program, when reporting in the uvalde shooting, we noted that -- officers have been or are still being investigated for their actions that day. when we were saying that, we told you
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that part of the story, we showed some video of officers who were in the school. we should not have been showing video at that point, because there's no indication that any of those officers are under investigation, we just wanted to clarify that. again, 12 days to go until the midterm election day, and we've been monitoring the threats to democracy. the security workers, we told you about the reports of voter in definition arizona. refers to the department of justice, includes armed men caught on camera watching people as they put their early voting ballots into a drop box. the local sheriff says, the men are not breaking the law, but it's not sitting well with some voters. and last night, drew griffin had a video of a voting machine breach in action. two men last year tried to copy election data, pretending they were from the department of defense, wearing bulletproof
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vests, and veils to justify claims of voting irregularities in the 2020 election. new tonight, election workers across the country are saying they are concerned about the lack of federal spending on security in the midterms. millions of dollars that could've been used to protect election workers and improve security in their offices, they say has not been tapped. one election worker in madison, wisconsin, telling cnn, quote, our security here is a joke. joining me now is richard barron, who is the director of elections in fulton county, georgia. he resigned last year after death threats remaining -- him and his staff. mr. aaron, appreciate you joining us. what's your reaction hearing that there are reportedly millions of dollars of federal aid for election security that have not gone claimed? >> well, in fulton county, i didn't know anything about the department of money or from the doj. we went out, i went out and got ten point $8 million in
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grants in 2020. and we use that for 900,000 of that went towards police security throughout fulton county. we had a death of early voting sites, all the election date sites, we use it at some of the facilities where we employed workers. and the georgia general assembly banned that money. there were no strings attached, it was really easy to get, and to use. and the center for tech and civic life made that easy for counties across georgia to do it. -- a simply decided to focus on us and banned it. >> you work in georgia, but already this election cycle, we've seen images out of other parts of the country in arizona, for example, you've got armed people watching over claiming their watching over ballot drop boxes. others are saying they're just out there to intimidate people. it's not illegal, you can send 70 or so
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feet away. are you concerned that we could be seeing more behavior like this across the country in future elections? >> yeah, the thing that concerns me is that i think the silence of some of the elected officials that are at the county level and the state level, they don't come out and talk to the constituents about the behavior that they're engaging in. and so, that silence condones the behavior and it actually approves of the behavior. so, that really for me is the concern. i think when you have these drop boxes, we had to deal with harassment at some of our drop boxes, where people would drive in the cars behind the people that would pick up the ballots, block driveways, and harass them. and some of my staff would say, we are just trying to do our jobs. why do these people keep doing this stuff to us? >> ballot drop boxes, i keep emphasizing this. they under 24 surveillance, video surveillance. it's not as if these are isolated boxes that
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people go and, you know, breach and access, and put phony ballots. this is stuff that's all monitored as it is by law. >> right, the fulton county police, we had 38 of them. we have cameras on all of them. the police department monitored those 24 hours a day, seven days a week. they were outside and now the legislature here decided to restrict it. they have to be inside a voting site. we can only have seven in fulton county, versus the 38 we had. and we never had any security issues at any of the boxes. so, we have postal service boxes all over the place and people don't mess with those. so, i'm not sure why they decided to restrict
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the way voters can return ballots, by getting rid of these boxes when they were secure. >> what kind of toll did these death threats, slurs, you know, against your team, what kind of an impact that have on your team? and on you? >> it becomes demoralizing after a while when you're constantly receiving these calls, especially, you know, my staff. 99% of myself was black, they were subjected to, you know, insidious racial slurs day, after day, after day. some of those would come along with the threats. after a while, you feel demoralized and you're looking towards the leaders in your county, like some of the elected officials, or at the state assembly, to speak out and proactively stop this. they don't do it, and so when they're silent and they let their constituents behave however they want, then what happens is it encourages the people later on, and i think also, when these complaints come in, the police need to make sure that they make contact with some of these people that say these sickening things. so that later, these people are going to think twice because they know that the police have made contact with them.
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>> yeah, richard barron, really pre-shaded, thank, you richard. >> you're welcome. >> coming, out russian president, vladimir putin, speaking out against the west at the same time claiming the war in ukraine will be good for russia in the end. up next, we will talk to a russian college student who says he fled the country after russian paramilitary police stormed his apartment for calling out the brutality in ukraine. during a major speech and -- president vladimir putin took aim at western powers, accusing him of seeking local domination, blaming them for the world's conflicts, including his invasion of ukraine. it also said the world faces the most dangerous decades since the end of world war ii. in addition, he denied any plans to use nuclear weapons against ukraine and said, the war will be better for russia's future. obviously, that optimism is not shared by all russians, including college student, mchale, -- after seeing the atrocities caused by russian forces in bucha, he spray-painted the words, putin equals war on a wall. two days later, he says police tracked him down, interrogated, him beat him. once he was released, he decided it was time to flee russia. he joins us tonight from paris. mikhail, after you hear the knock on your door, you opened it. the police came in, what happened? >> well, it was quite simple. i was detained, i was put on the ground, i was showed the warrant for the search of my flat and the search proceeded. it was quite fast stand seemed like a bad dream, to be fair. >> i understand, they brought you to the police station and
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an investigator questioned you, and once he was finished, then three men came into the room. what happened? >> i was put up in the wall, i was ordered to stand to the wall, then i was asked questions, i was threatened. when i answered questions not in the way the man wanted me to answer them, i was hit, slap in the neck, i was hit a couple times on my shoulders. and i was threatened. the man who is doing this threatened me with beating my fingers with a hammer and expelling me from my university, which will subject me to the draft. >> what were they wanting from you? what were they wanting you to say? >> i believe they wanted me to tell, i believe they wanted me to tell who is behind this writing on the wall. they didn't believe that it was my own idea. but then when it turned out that it is, indeed, my own idea, they just wanted me to admit that it was wrong. and they wanted to make a video, an example of me. >> and did you finally make that video under pressure? >> yes, under pressure i broke
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and i made the video that stated that i love putin, that i support his actions in ukraine, which is a lie. this video was made, i was let go. >> why did you decide to spray-paint putin equals war on the wall? >> because i felt that after the massacre in bucha, i felt that they don't have the right to be idle. that i need to do at least anything to show that i'm not complacent with this tragedy and murder. >> you felt like you had to say something? >> yes, this is exactly how i felt. >> so, after they released you, i know it took you three days, four nights actually walking to the border. i mean, that was incredibly difficult. once you got there, how are you able to get across? >> the border of russia [inaudible] i used logs that are found in the forest around this place, in order to wedge a little bit of a hole in the barbed wire. and i crawled through. i still have, right there, i still have a -- that i had and it's still torn because of barbwire. and you spent a few weeks into different polish detention facilities. i know you were eventually able to make a difference where you are today. what happens to you now
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and what do you think about what is happening in russia today? >> right now, i wait for it decision from french authorities. i am really grateful for french authorities because they considered my case for the transfer. and right now, what happens in russia, i am watching closely what happens in russia, and is to be fair, it is really hard for me because it is my home, and it's being destroyed right now. as we speak -- >> mikael, if you don't get asylum in france, what happens? >> then i will get back to russia, and i will go to prison. it is simple. >> mikael, i wish you the best, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> coming up, the capitol rioter who drag anti -- michael fanone into the mob where he was taser and be in. we learned of his faith today. how long he will be in person and what officer fanone said in court before the sentencing? we'll talk to officer fanone next. a federal judge has sentenced the january six rioters who drag d. c. police officer michael fanone into the capital mob to seven and a half years in prison. it's a long sentence for any writer who pleaded guilty so far. albuquerque
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head's name. investigators used several videos to make their case, including this one, which was seen battling with several officers, including officer fanone. the officers that pushed the rioters out of a tunnel, that is one head convinces fanone that he is trying to help him but then dragged him directly into the mob. he is caught on video yelling i got one, as he put four known into the mob and completely beat him and knocked him unconscious. fanone's body cam footage shows how he tried to fight back and being tasers repeatedly. he also suffered a heart attack. the injuries have led him to retire. he's now a cnn contributor who writes about his ordeal in a fascinating new book, hold the line, the instruction and one cops battle for americas soul. michael fanone joins us now. you talk to the judge today about mercy for your attacker. what did you say?
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>> i asked judge amy berman jackson to show albuquerque head the same amount of mercy that he showed me on january six, which for those of you who have been living under a rock was none. >> as we have mentioned, the judge sentenced this person to seven and a half years in prison, shy of the eight year maximum. is that enough in your view? >> listen, i don't typically comment on the sentences that these judges hand down. that being said, i do feel it was appropriate. i think that amy berman jackson was thoughtful under sentencing and i accept it.
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talk to officer fanone next. a federal judge has sentenced the january six rioters who drag d. c. police officer michael fanone into the capital mob to seven and a half years in prison. it's a long sentence for any writer who pleaded guilty so far. albuquerque head's name. investigators used several videos to make their case, including this one, which was seen battling with several officers, including officer fanone. the officers that pushed the rioters out of a tunnel, that is one head convinces fanone that he is trying to help him but then dragged him directly into the mob. he is caught on video yelling i got one, as he put four known into the mob and completely beat him and knocked him unconscious. fanone's body cam footage shows how he tried to fight back and being tasers repeatedly. he also suffered a heart attack. the injuries have led him to retire. he's now a cnn contributor who writes about his ordeal in a fascinating new book, hold the
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line, the instruction and one cops battle for americas soul. michael fanone joins us now. you talk to the judge today about mercy for your attacker. what did you say? >> i asked judge amy berman jackson to show albuquerque head the same amount of mercy that he showed me on january six, which for those of you who have been living under a rock was none. >> as we have mentioned, the judge sentenced this person to seven and a half years in prison, shy of the eight year maximum. is that enough in your view? >> listen, i don't typically comment on the sentences that these judges hand down. that being said, i do feel it was appropriate. i think that amy berman jackson was thoughtful under sentencing and i accept it. >> did you get a sense that this person, this attack or, this person who did this to you has any remorse for what he did to that day? in court, he reportedly shook his head, stared straight ahead when the sentence was announced and at one point at his fiancée when she wept. >> yeah, i don't know, to be completely honest with you. the only person that knows if albuquerque head is
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remorseful's albuquerque head. that being said, i will talk about the family's reactions to the past several sentences. when i was at kyle young sentencing, it mediately after the judge handed down, i believe a seven year sentence, his mother called me a piece of ship. there was an outburst in the courtroom. in this particular sentencing, i thought it was interesting to albuquerque head chose not to address me. he chose not to apologize and it was pretty clear, from the families reaction and body language that they also did not feel like albuquerque head was responsible for his actions. or that they were wrong. >> that's incredible this is the second longest sentence handed down the longest to one pleading guilty when you think sentences like these, this has a deterrent effect on anybody? >> so, i mean, listen, in my capacity as a law enforcement officer, former law enforcement officer, i would traditionally
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say yes, but these are not traditional crimes. these are politically, inspired attacks on more enforcement and on our democracy. unfortunately, you still have individuals, a former president many, of his allies that continue to espouse the same lies that motivated these attacks. so while i think that they may prevent many americans from participating in something similar to january six, i think it's also inspiring many americans to fight harder. and to be more violent. >> michael fanone, i appreciate time tonight, thank you. >> thanks for having me, anderson. >> still ahead, something to bring a smile to you tonight, so they're between a coal mine r
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and his son. that's next. so we start to end the program tonight, the university of kentucky wildcats baseball coach said this new viral photo of a coal miner at a game with his son over the weekend. michael maguire rushed to do arena from work with his heavy boots, his body covered in black called us, because he wanted to make sure that his son eastern could get to see his first basketball game. ♪ can you hear me calling ♪ ♪ out your name? ♪ ♪ you know that i've falling ♪ ♪ and i don't know what to say ♪ ♪ oh, i ♪
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>> he had a blast. he was dancing, and every time there was slammed dunk, he would go crazy. >> i was really excited that was able to watch the game with my kids and wife -- missed half the game to go home and take a shower -- >> the wildcats coach also invited maguire and his family at a game at lexington, home of the university of kentucky basketball team. maguire says he and easton are looking for pete to visit. the news continues, jake tapper and cnn tonight starts now. tonight starts now. tonight starts now. tonight starts now. tonight starts now. tonight starts now. tonight starts now. tonight starts now. tonight starts now.
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>> he and austin are looking forward to the visit. making new memories as a family, the news continues check topper on cnn tonight starts now. >> thanks anderson >> thanks anderson, this is cnn tonight i'm jake temperate in washington. election day is just 12 days away, but many democratic officials seem to believe barring some major seismic event, control of the house of representatives is all booked on. democrats can feel the house seats slipping through their fingers, as some experts project republicans could pick up maybe even 30 seats, and they only need five to win back the majority. some in the democratic party are already performi