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good evening, everyone. this is "cnn tonight." i'm alisonyn camerota. we have details on violent attack on nancy pelosi's 82-year-old husband paul. an intruder attacked him with a hammer shouting where is nancy. when police arrived, he told them quote he was waiting for nancy. an angry president joe biden called the attack despicable. >> enough is enough is enough. every person of good conscious needs to clearly and unambiguously stand up against the violence in our policies regardless of what your politics are. >> this part will not shock you. the alleged attacker posted conspiracy theories on facebook includ including links to mike lindell. not only are our elected officials in danger days before
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the midterms, so are their families. federal officials are warning that domestic violent extremists pose a heightened threat to the midterms and beyond. let's bring in our cnn law enforcement analyst jonathan and cnn national security analyst juliette. great to have you guys in studio. they just had a press conference, the san francisco police department moments ago. here is what the chief said based on their latest information. l let's listen. >> we also know based on our investigation at this point that this was not a random act. this was intentional. and it's wrong. our elected officials are here to do the business of their cities, their counties, their states and this nation. their families don't sign up for this to be harmed and it is wrong. and everybody should be
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disgusted about what happened this morning. >> juliette, we feared that things like this would happen. political -- i mean, they don't have a motive yet. there is still early days, obviously, but it looks and feels like political violence. >> where is nancy is your clue there. she's the second in line for the presidency and he were talking about this essentially if you think of it in those terms, it would be hard to deny this is a political attack. what we're finding on social media is confirming a narrative about someone who got radicalized through the fake election and the january 6th and all this stuff things were taken away from him. he may have mental health issues. >> it sounds like he has a long history of being unhinged. >> a lot of people have mental health issues but most do not do this. who or what noise was leading him there? i think that's going to be very
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interesting and then who else is picking up on that? i think the threat level for other federal officials is just it's got to remain high and protection for them at least until after the election. >> that leads us to their families. i was surprised to learn today that our top leaders' families don't get protection. >> it's stunning. it's stunning. to juliette's point, this is the number two person in line of presidential succession. the fact their house was broken into and no residential security, the fact that the husband was attacked physically, violently and is in the hospital. this is unacceptable full stop. we're not -- this is not a new threat environment we're living in. this is around for a long time. we're hearing warning after warning but not taking the right action. we're not applying the right control measures. >> what should we be doing? >> we need to be focussing on
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protecting these political leaders, right? so rank and file members, members of congressional leadership, the same way the secret service does. we need to protect them -- >> well, she has protection in washington d.c. but are you saying all of their families should at this point in this climate because it's gotten so bad also have protection? obviously, that cost a lot of money, et cetera, et cetera. >> it cost a lot of money. put the money aside. we'll figure out -- the government spends money on a lot of things. let's not think about how do we pay for protection, let's apply it when necessary. guess what, when you are in line for the office of the presidency in the united states, you need 24-hour protection on your home, you need protection of your spouse, your family, everybody that could impact. here is why. today family members are soft targets. they're the path of least resistance for an attacker. we know that and have seen that time and time again and a mer ma t -- material impact in speaker
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pelosi's ability to move. two weeks out we're concentrating on an attack of her husband, not on the midterm cycle, i can et cetera. protection has a purpose and we need to apply it to the threat environment. we all have been. >> juliette, no surprise when you find on this guy's social media stuff. it's textbook. >> it is. >> i mean, i'll put up stuff. mike lindell, the pillow salesman and just famous conspiracy theorist, this guy was tweeting videos produced by him and then all of this just conspiracy non-sense about january 6th, and so we've seen it time and again, there is a connection. >> yeah. >> why can't we figure out the connection before the violence happens? >> well, because there is a near t nurturing of this violence coming from leadership of the gop. the person who is likely to get the nominationcoming from leade gop. the person who is likely to get the nomination donald trump uses
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the language of violence. let be clear. there is violence that is directed and nurtured by the leader of that party and then the problem is it is either denied, accepted or also embraced by other members and what i -- what is important to remember is the well, let's just move on attitude you hear from many people. that's just trump, whatever, especially members of his party. that actually is helpful to the radicalization because it's the silence, it's the lack of shaming of what is going on and what is happening to that party. >> would the shaming -- >> yes, yes? >> would the shaming cut down on the political violence. >> imagine if mcconnell stuck to this is unacceptable after january 6th. imagine that world in which the party shunned the violence. it would be a totally different world and yes, there is going to be outliners and people that are still violent but they're not going to be supported by an
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apparatus that gives them legitimacy. >> today, there are republicans who are tweeting. >> yeah. >> about this. so vice president pence says quote this is an outrage and our hearts are with the entire pelosi family. we pray paul will make a full recovery. there can be no tolerance for public officials or families. this man should be prosecuted to the full of law. is that tweet enough? >> it helps. the opposite would be worse. we have to remember one tweet does not mute what has been going on to nancy pelosi and towards nancy pelosi in the world i follow, the radicalization world. she more than biden has become the focal point you can call it gender or maybe targeting her. it is her and it is at the rallies, at the trump rallies on social media, on true social, it is nancy pelosi who has been the target. where is nancy?
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it's a direct line from january 6th. >> absolutely. they were chanting that. they were chanting that. they were looking for her. >> i want to follow up on one thing. this behavior is normalized and that's really, really dangerous. >> meaning political violence or political rhetoric? >> rhetoric that means violence. it's a flash and a bang. so it's that rhetoric first that we see getting bigger and everyone accepts it and allow it. they've seen it online. it fueled for years and years and now it quickly leads into physical violence and we've seen it affect politicians. we've seen it affect our societies. we think about how people have been radicalized that are going into schools and synagogues and churches and killing everybody and we have to do better. we have to do better. we have to take a different approach to one, sup prepressin that ideology and thinking and have to take a stronger stand against, you know, domestic
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the attack on speaker nancy pe pelosi's husband is shocking the country. joining me is former democratic presidential candidate andrew yang and democratic congressman debbie schultz and doug high. great to have you guys. debbie, congresswoman, i mean. >> that's okay. >> i am sure this sent a shiver down your spine and all lawmakers in washington. what was the conversation you were having with colleagues today? >> just year after year after year the political violence and the looming threat for members of congress just doing their jobs, whether it's gabby giffords being shot at a community event she was doing in 2011 to steve scalise at a baseball game to nancy pelosi's
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husband being attacked in their home. it's -- i mean, i experienced it four years ago when 16 bomb packages were sent across the country to cnn to democratic elected around the country with my return address and district office return address on the packages. one came back to my office, sat with my staff, a bomb package that had to be detonated under the staircase and my staff had that in the office for two days. it it's out of control. >> it's gotten worse. let me tell you the statistics. in 2016 there were 902 threats to congress, as if that weren't bad enough it's grown. last year, 9,625. >> yeah, and what started that spark? you know, it started in new york city when one person went down an escalator and we saw the rhetoric donald trump exploded onto the scene that's been
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copied from anot your generic member of congress maybe not loud enough in condemning that but activists and people that would love to go to the trump hotel on a friday night or a wednesday night for that matter and hope to see, you know, all these kind of cast of the people around the trump world who spread and pushed this kind of -- >> the star wars. >> you draw a direct line between donald trump's entrance into the political world and that growth. >> this is the explosion. did it precede trump? of course it did. when gabby giffords was shot on a saturday in either late 2010 or early 2011, that was predated donald trump but the explosion has come because of him and it's why i can't police what the other side can do. i can try to police what my side does and tell them constantly you have to be vigilant in pushing back on this and if you don't, we're no longer talking in theory. my concern about donald trump's rhetoric was people are going to get hurt. that's not my concern anymore. people will get hurt. we've been lucky nobody has been
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killed yet. >> this is exactly what congressman adam kinzinger said today. let me play that for everyone. >> this is what happens when you convince a third of the country the election was stolen and the other side is an enemy. you otherize people. you convince folks that your political opposition is out to get you and your family. so i mean, this is the stuff every republican needs to speak out on like every democrat and republican should speak out when steve scalise was shot but to the republicans not speaking out now, let me say this, this is going to be visited on our side and not that it should actually matter what side you're on but speak out now. >> so some did tweet today, i was just saying former vice president pence said there is no tolerance for violence against public officials and called it an outrage but someone like glenn youngkin in virginia who for a few seconds had some compassion for nancy pelosi and her family and immediately
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pivoted back to sort of partisan rhetoric. here is that moment. >> listen, speaker pelosi's husband had a break in last night in their house and he was assaulted. there is no room for violence but we'll sent her back to be with him in california. >> couldn't resist. >> the fact is america is more polarized than in generations where almost half of democrats regard republicans as corrupt and a threat to the country and the same percentage of republicans feel that way about the other party. this is going to get worse, not better. unfortunately, we know after a few days of reelection, we'll see a return of politics to demonization. we need structural reform like a shift to rank choice voting and non-partisan primaries that would disempower the extremes that control the incentives in at least one of our major parties and arguably both. >> are those the answers? >> no, we need rhetoric dialled down. we need elected officials to be
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responsible and immediately call out this violence, stop inciting the violence. we have people whose lives are being jeopardized. paul pelosi was hit with a hammer in his home by a right wing extremist who is a qanon subscriber. >> what didn't you hear from today? >> i didn't want to hear the governor of virginia suggest that we were going to send nancy pelosi home. i mean, he should check the politics of her district. send her home to be with her husband. i mean, that -- so what he's being comforting as an aside but then pulls out the political knife as soon as he's done with the sentence? it's outrageous. >> as i was saying, i think that we've learned that donald trump doesn't come out in moments like this and he doesn't like to tamp it down. i think that we've learned that he often gins it up. is there anybody who could come out on the republican side and tamp it down besides him?
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>> look, you had a lot of elected officials on both sides, thankfully, say how outrageous it was. of course, an attack on the speaker's husband is outrageous. where are the attacks -- where are the comments to dial down their supporters? in my district at home, the right wing extremist maga volunteers are out at early voting sites intimidating voters, intimidating campaign workers on the other side supporting candidates and scaring people away from the polls. that has to be called out. >> doug? >> it should be called out in arizona, as well. yes, this happens on both sides. lee was attacked on stage in new york when he was campaigning as a republican for governor. i go back to my party. we have the original sin here starting in 2015, 2016. >> who can speak out? again, if we're giving up on donald trump? >> the problem is a lot of right people can speak out but it's a question of whether or not that's going to be effective. mike pence said the right thing. kevin mccarthy reached out to
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the pelosi office. those are the right things to do. steve scalise said the right thing. the problem is you can't say it once. you have to say it over and over again and mean it, which means you're telling your supporters. >> the rhetoric is important and matters but social media, disinformation and negative sentiment spreads six times more powerfully and quickly than being positive. and again, the incentives right now are disproportionately empowering people on extreme. there are politicians that are responding to that and gets the money and gets them fame and getting them appeal. if you don't change the incentives, you'll see more and more of this. that's what we've been experiencing. trump was a catalyst for sure but the trends are building and just going to continue after trump reseeds from the scene. >> you need stronger takedown policies on the part of social media companies for some extremist rhetoric that incites more of their supporters. >> these are exactly the structural fixes we should dig into. i'm tired of saying look, if we said the right thing, all of this would go away. it will not.
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it's here to stay. >> i spent the last week reading robert draper's book, a maddening and detailed takedown where the republican party is these days. i put the book down and used curse words and pick it back up and use more curse words and details systematically why what we see is not just a problem in washington d.c. but in state parties, in county parties on the precinct level and it takes a top down and bottom up solution, which is really hard to do. >> but you see these structures working in a place like alaska where lisa masaid anybody could vote for anyone. >> really interest. stick around, please. we have a lot more to talk about. president obama back on the trail tonight in georgia. we'll tell you what he's saying about the attack on speaker pelosi's husband and his thoughts on herschel walker.
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attacked. politics, for some in office or aspired office work to stir up the vision to make folks as angry and automatic of this is a -- all of this is amped up on social immemedia and platforms contiroversy for profitable tha telling the truth. >> back with me andrew, debbie and doug. this is what we were saying. can we stop using social media? >> how would we find out about the thoughts of that random person? >> i mean, i'm not asking this rhetorically, i know this is a longer conversation we don't
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have time for. it's the root of a lot of our problems and i'm not quite sure what to do about the vile under belly of it yet. >> the internet has a the back sie side of autocracy. foreign actors are taking advantage. it splintered into different information silos and giving people their own version of the fact that's what we're facing. >> i rest my case. >> it's more sobering how much anti-semitism, bigotry and hate that has been lurking in the shadows for so long. >> i guess. obviously but also lit the fuse for that. >> but can help us fight it. >> yes, we actually will talk about that later in the show. we want to talk about president obama being in georgia and whether this changes the equation there.
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he talked a lot about herschel walker running for senate there. here are things he had to say about that. >> let's say you're at the airport and you see mr. walker and say there is mr. walker, his m heisman winter, let's have him fly the plane. [ laughter ] you probably wouldn't say that. you would want to know does he know how to fly an airplane. seems to be he's a celebrity that wants to be a politician and we've seen how that goes. >> who will feel to keep you and your family safe? the republican politicians that want to flood our streets with more guns who actually voted against more resources for our police departments. is it somebody that carries around a phony badge and says
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he's in law enforcement? like he's a kid playing cops and rob robbers or leaders like reverend warnock. >> president obama seems to be having fun with that there. will that change anything? >> police badges seems like an attack on elvis presley and we can't let that stand. the democratic base needs to be revved up. republicans are more enth enthusiastic than democrats. it could make a difference in the senate election. it's not going to make one in the governor's election. i'm not surprised we haven't seen obama or biden or harris in north carolina. it been have a very close senate race. obama won in 2008 and lost in 2012 but the second closest state in the country each time and it's a state that is really forgotten in this campaign. >> why aren't they going there? >> well, this is got a lot of races. it's a big map.
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by the way, it's not just herschel walker. this is running deep in their party. they nominated tv doctor that lives in new jersey who thinks actually that perhaps your mayor should decide your reproductive health care decisions. >> i know you're friend of dr. oz but to my point, do you think president obama being there when you say it revs up the base, voter turn jet? >> president obama is loved by the base and americans on all across the spectrum and so he is an incredible advocate for our agenda and gave health care to 20 million more americans and contrast that with those hell benl bent on taking that away and lowering prescription drug costs and got shots in arms and continue to return this economy around and stop cutting taxes
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for the wealthy. >> by the way, voter turnout already early voter turnout in georgia is off the charts especially among african american voters. we're already seeing that. >> we're ahead of republicans in early vote across the country. >> we'll see what that ch translates to on election day. before i ask about president obama, it was senate majority leader schumer also who talked about georgia but he wasn't intending to be heard. this was a hot mike moment where he was talking about what he thinks are the democrats weakening chances in georgia so here is that moment. >> if you couldn't hear that, the state where we're going downhill is georgia. it hard to believe they will go for herschel walker. he was talking to president
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biden there. that is what the polls are sugg suggesting. >> i haven't seen any poll that has walker or warnock above the 50% threshold. they should plan to visit somewhere between election day and december 6th when the runoff will be when it will just be warnock versus walker. one on one. because right now there is a third candidate getting 2 to 4%. the senator probably has better numbers. >> i think he was speaking broadly, he can't believe they're actually neck and neck. >> can i just add, voters are voting. we're done with polls honestly. the voters are out there. vote by mail ballots need to be turned in. early votes are being cast. election day is 11 days from now. the polls are nice but what matters is getting people out to the polls and that will be the proof of the pudding. >> all that matters is election day. one, that is never true but not true now when people vote throughout the country. >> yeah, no, we might be
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speaker nancy pepelosi's husband is expected to make a full recovery after being attacked by an intruder overnight. the assailant was yelling "wh"w "where's nancy?" pennsylvania state senator republican jake coreman and his daughter bella join me now. great to have you in studio. >> thank you. >> you are set to retire at the end of next month as the
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president of the pennsylvania senate. you've been in politics i think for 24 years. you've obviously seen a lot but is it safe to say nothing like what you saw after the 2020 election when starting that night, you began getting i guess calls for you to take some action? >> yeah, i mean, after the 2020 election, it was probably one of the craziest times. we just came away from covid and get into the 2020 election. the calls, first the left don't you dare interfere in this race and when we didn't, we got a turn from the right and someone obviously very threatening on both sides and so it was for someone who has a family, i have a daughter and two sons, it was disturbing. >> i can imagine. these calls continued through the holidays from election day through lchristmas and new year and then all the way through, i guess, june when president trump then tweeted this about you. why is state senator jake corman
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of pennsylvania fighting so hard there not be a forensic audit? he is factighting as if he were radical left democrat. then what happened? >> more protus ests. f more calls. people who have a wide following generates people to act. unfortunately sometimes. so we got a lot of calls and we had demonstrations around our home and things like that. i didn't have it nearly as bad as others did. speaker cutler had thousands to his house but, you know, again, when you have young children, i actually got an email from somebody that said i know where you live. i know where your kids go to school. i know where you walk your dog, which made me feel better because i don't walk my dog. never theless, when you get something like that as a father, that's as scary as it gets. >> what were those months like for you? >> it was a time of turmoil in my community. hearing my friends and friends'
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families prepare to do this whole kind of ride outside off house and they did a little drive around honking their horns -- >> meaning even former friends of yours were suddenly attacking your family? >> yeah, it was something i was so surprised to hear and never thought their uncles and parents would disregard my humanity and my family's life and just thinking that is something that they could turn on you so quickly over politics kind of blows my mind. as i believe i was in -- i was in my senior year of high school, it was really hard. >> someone put your address out on the internet and then what happened. >> yeah, i believe that was a facebook group chat. i talked to one of my dad's colleagues about this and prepared a facebook group saying we're going to go out and protest in front of the senator's house and we were luckily to know about it before hand that we got out of town because i remember my youngest brother who definitely has taken a lot of it internally about the
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comments about my dad, he was looking outside the window just kind of waiting and seeing if anything would happen and we were truthfully scared in that moment. >> basically, you had to flee your home? >> essentially, we just didn't want to be around for a moment like that. i mean, we put up signs saying no trespassing and -- >> we put up no trespassing signs and they drove around the block as they said they would do. >> were they yelling? >> they were beeping their horns and i think some of our neighbors asked what was going on and happening. thankfully, nothing violent actually happened and i could imagine those circumstances but thankfully, we left town. >> there were reports paul pelosi posted things about mike lindell that believes conspiracy theories. how dangerous do you think people like there are to public safety? >> everyone tries to inspire people to act in a violent way are obviously very dangerous and, you know, a whole cone ver
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sta -- conversation it elevated into a new world. when you can with just, you know, one click of a button inspire thousands of people to do things that are violent, that's a scary place for this country. and i think it's something that because it's unregulated, i think it's time we as -- i will soon be a former government official, we take a look how to regulate this because this is an explosion that if you don't, and just in the hands of public where people anonymously can do these things, i think inspires violence and something the government needs to take a look at. >> senator, ultimately, you did decide to launch an audit of the 2020 election in pennsylvania. was that because of all of the pressure you were get sng. >> not really an audit. sunshine is always a good thing. so if you go do an investigation and don't find anything, that dispels a lot of the conspiracies and if you find things, it can inspire change to give people more confidence. that's good, as well. i thought more sunshine we showed on our process to see what happens, that would be a
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positive. >> i think the only unfortunate aspect of that we were talking about couple months back is that despite the investigation, what the outcomes were, peep ople we set on their minds and evidence either way people had their minds made up because they went in with this whole entire time. >> great point. bella, you consider yourself a republican. what is the answer for this level of political rhetoric and violence and extremism for your generation? >> you know, i actually have a lot of hope for my generation. i go to college and i'm in a predominantly liberal area and i'm hope to hear perspectives. we need open mindedness. people need to understand other people's circumstances and perspectives because at the end of the day, you have to put yourself in someone else's s shoes. i as a republican was scared to reveal that ideology because i didn't want people to put backlash on me but i joined
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groups and they're proud i have a different stance and they can talk to me in those aspects so i think that's what we need open mindedness. >> i'm comforted when i talk to somebody in your generation, because it gives me hope. >> absolutely. >> it doesn't look like you guys are heading in the same direction. senator, you launched a run for governor and bowed out when doug mas mastriano gained steam. >> if you believe the polling, probably no. obviously, polling is not 100% accurate but, you know, he's going to have a race here in a couple days, couple weeks and finally make a decision. my concern why i got in the race and why ultimately got out was to find a republican candidate who has a lot of values i have that ultimately could win in the fall knowing josh shapiro would be well funded and not somebody
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that appeals to the fringe. we need somebody to cross over to independents and democrats alike. we got out to back someone else that had a better chance. unfortunately, that didn't happen but doug is our candidate and we'll see how it does. >> any thoughts? >> as a moderate republican voter in pennsylvania, i definitely was hoping to see my dad in the spot because i really think he has a really open mind and moderate views on the stances that i believe in, too. it's unfortunate to see the republican party nominate someone i don't agree with down the line. i hope to see republican governor in the future and potentially we'll see what happens november 8th. we had a governor as a democrat and i want to see change in there. >> bella and senator, thanks so much for sharing your personal story with us. >> thank you. >> really appreciate it. interesting to hear both generations take on this. tell me what you think about the tense political atmosphere we've living in this this country. tweet me @alisyn camerota and
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>> october is breast cancer awareness month. each year in the u.s. roughly 264,000 women are diagnosed with cancer. 40 thousand women die from the disease. back with me is debbie wasserman schultz who was diagnosed with breast cancer when she was 41 years old but is now happily cancer free. >> we are here to sound the alarm, even though things have improved, breast cancer rates have improved a bit in the past couple of years, something alarming has happened. >> since covid, 80% of women
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skipped their mammograms that were over 40 years old. and even higher rate for women of color. we know that when that happens we have cancers that are coming down the pike that are going to be detected at a later stage and more complicated. the difference between someone who catches brent casserly, the survival rate is 90% versus around 66% when it is taught at an earlier stage. to make that is such an important number but i think that for many women getting an a mammogram can be so indicting provoking. jacket is not a fun experience, for sure. but it is an absolute necessity for women 40 years or older. i was 41 years old, like you said, i had just had my first mammogram. it came back clean except for some calcifications, no evidence of cancer, but that raised my antenna. i did a self-exam in the shower a few months later and i found
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a lump that had not been there before. >> i read that you went through your cancer struggle for 15 months without really telling anyone. did that make it harder or easier? >> you, it made it easier for me and my family. my kids were really little. the twins were nine my little one was four. cancer is a really scary thing. i was having my surgeries and everything that everyone they knew or anyone they ever heard of about cancer, they associated with death. i knew i was going to be okay because it was caught early, but i did not want to worry them. you also lose control of everything. you feel like you do. i wanted to make sure that i was more than cancer and not in a tagline, debbie wasserman schultz who is currently battling breast cancer. that was important for me. >> i understand. when you were texting me to say you wanted to come on and talk about breast cancer, you said
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you would act as my jewish mother and prod me to get a mammogram , which i did. you are welcome. see mike thank you very much. >> the point is, it does take some frame. if you're someone who is anxious about it, which i am, it does take some reframing but i tried to do it. it really helped. it is basically, this is how you detect it early. so, when you go in for a mammogram sometimes you think this is where bad news happens. in fact, it is the opposite. >> exactly. you need to go and get your mammogram. if you do it annually at 40 years old, you have a baseline. they can see on the skin what is normal for you. they are more likely to be able to detect it. if you do not have a consistent view of what you look like and then on top of that, you should do breast self exams once a month so you know it is normal for you so that you know when something feels different. that is how i found my lung. i knew what i fort normally felt like. when i felt the lump which is a right about here, it was less
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than half a centimeter. i was so lucky that i could feel it. it felt like the ball on the end of a jack, when you play jacks. that is what it felt like. it was hard and really small. i had my husband philip. and then i went right to the doctor, three days later. they had trouble seeing it, but they saw something. let's take a little bit of it. it came back, it even came back clean initially in the frozen section, and then three days later when they did the pathology it came out that it was breast cancer. >> here you are all of these years later. >> almost 15 years later. >> that is amazing. and when you are living proof of early detection. >> young women can and do get breast cancer. that is so critical for people to know and doctors to know. doctors are often dismissive of young women when they come with a problem presents differently for young women to make sure you get your mammogram into self exams. early detection is the key.
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