way around. >> was he speaking in a code so the assailant wouldn't know he was on the phone? is that essentially -- >> what he said, she felt that there was something more to it. but, again, dispatchers have to report what they're being told. but thankfully, experience and intuition -- you know, sometimes when you're in this business long enough, you kind of get a sense for things. and her intuition was on point. >> that will do it for now. we're done for this evening. thank you very much. >> thank you all. >> that was chief william scott from the san francisco police department giving an update on the attack on paul pelosi, the husband of house speaker nancy pelosi. he said it was not a random act. it was intentional. it was wrong. everyone should be disgusted. no details specifically on whether it was politically

motivated, but you could expect to learn more information about perhaps what was on the digital feed of the individual who was there and struck paul pelosi at least once with a hammer. that much we know. we also know it was paul pelosi who called 911. and through that call, a dispatcher very well saved his life. much more information on all this coming in. the news continues, so let's hand it over to jake tapper and "cnn tonight." welcome to "cnn tonight." i'm jake tapper in washington. tonight, outrage, horror, and a scramble for answers after an intruder broke into the home of house speaker nancy pelosi and violently attacked her husband with a hammer. sources say 82-year-old paul pelosi was taken into surgery for a skull fracture. he is expected to make a full recovery. this all started just before

2:30 a.m. pacific time at the pelosi home in san francisco where sources say the male suspect confronted paul pelosi screaming, where is nancy, and tried to tie him up, quote, until nancy got home. shortly thereafter, police arrived on the scene. >> the suspect pulled the hammer away from mr. pelosi and violently assaulted him with it. our officers immediately tackled the suspect, disarmed him, took him into custody, requested emergency backup, and rendered medical aid. >> san francisco police have identified the suspect as 42-year-old david depape. he's has a history of spreading far right conspiracy theories about covid vaccines, the 2020 election, and the january 6th insurrection. sources say he was not known to capitol police or in any federal threat database. it is hard to ignore how much of the suspect's rhetoric today echos what we heard from rioters who stormed the capitol. >> [ bleep ]. >> can i speak to pelosi?

>>. [ crowd chanting, nancy ] >> congressman adam kinzinger of illinois tweeted, quote, i want to be clear. when you convince people that politicians are rigging elections, drink babies' blood, et cetera, you will get violence. this must be rejected. this is why the january 6th committee is so important, unquote. democratic congresswoman karen bass of california went even further. >> it just shows us the danger that our democracy is in, and it also just makes me angry thinking of my republican colleagues who attempt to minimize what happened january 6 and who ignore the hate speech, the violent speech that is going on right now. >> senate republican leader mitch mcconnell today strongly condemned the assault on

twitter. house republican leader kevin mccarthy's office said he reached out to the speaker's office to check on paul pelosi. this horrifying act of violence today, i wish i could tell you it's an outlier. it's not. unchecked lies and hate filled dehumanizing rhetoric combine to create a perfect storm of political violence. last year an astounding 34% of american adults said it's justifiable for citizens to take violent action against the government according to a "washington post" university of maryland post. no public figure seems safe. capitol police have tracked more than 9,000 threats in 2021 against people in places that department is charged with protecting. just today a pennsylvania man pleaded guilty to making threats to kill democratic congressman eric swalwell and his staff.

susan collins warned, quote, i wouldn't be surprised if a senator or house member were killed. what started as abusive phone calls is translated into active threats of violence and real violence. those abusive phone calls are now a regular part of life for congressman kinzinger and others. >> we're going to get you. we know where you live. we're coming to your house. we're going to get you. >> you're going to swing for [ bleep ] treason you communist [ bleep ]. >> democratic congresswoman debbie dingell of michigan has also received voice mails that would make your stomach churn. she shared this one with cnn last year after former president trump singled her out. >> i hope your family dies in front of you. i pray to god if you've got children they die in your face. >> as much as donald trump is part of the problem here, you need to know these threats and horrific acts are not only from the right. back in 2017, republican congressman steve scalise was nearly killed after being shot

during an attack on a congressional baseball game. supreme court justices are also under threat. this summer, a man travelled to d.c. from california armed to the teeth with the stated intention of killing supreme court justice brett kavanaugh. also not safe, governors, candidates for governor. this week, three men were convicted of all charges after supporting a plot to kidnap michigan's democratic governor gretchen whitmer. in july, a man jumped on stage to try to stab with a sharp object congressman lee zeldin, a republican candidate for new york governor. to get some perspective of how bad it can get, let's turn back to one of the most tumultuous and perhaps darkest chapters in american political history. on november 22, 1963, viewers who turned in to cbs were met by this chilling report. >> from dallas, texas, the flash apparently official, president

kennedy died at 1:00 p.m. central standard time. >> only five years later, april, 1968, walter cronkite again. >> good evening. dr. martin luther king, the apostle of non-violence in the civil rights movement, has been shot to death in memphis, tennessee. >> think about that, the leader of the civil rights movement preaching the importance of non-violence murdered in cold blood. only two months later, june, 1968. >> we've heard an alarming report that robert kennedy was shot in that ballroom at the ambassador hotel in los angeles. >> these are the extremes, political violence taking the lives of the nation's leaders. we reference them as a point of caution. we're at a moment right now of

extreme polarization where calls for violence are leading to actual violence. we cannot pretend that these are all isolated, fringe events. there are people in main stream, accepted society, elected officials, tv anchors, others, who have been creating a permission structure that is helping to open the door to this violence, a permission structure created when they dehumanize opponents or smear them or belittle or make light of acts or threats of violence against their perceived foes or spread conspiracy theories. and while it might feel as though the political divides of the present are too vast to bridge, now is the moment that we all need to stop and think about our common humanity or at the very least the basic golden rule and how you want to be treated. political violence in america is no longer a threat. it's a reality. two years ago, a lawyer dressed up like a fedex delivery man and showed up at the new jersey home

of u.s. district judge ester solace. her son daniel celebrating his birthday that day ran to open the door. that lawyer opened fire. daniel was killed. his father was shot three times but survived. judge solace is with us tonight. judge solace, thank you so much for being here. i'm sorry it's under these conditions. and what a horrible -- what a horrible task, a calling you have. what was the first thing that went through your mind today when you heard about paul pelosi? >> good evening, mr. tapper. thank you for having me on. the first thing that came to my mind was just sadness, where we have come to in this country. words matter. the way we treat each other, it matters. and we see what words can do. and we see what happened in my case. this gentleman came to my house, as you said, and took our only child. as we say, our blessing from god, and changed our lives forever.

words matter, mr. tapper. and judicial security now matters more than ever. judicial security, sir, is a matter of national security. and we need to pass this bipartisan law to protect judges, to protect democracy. and i'm going to say to protect really humanity. we need to start working together and change the course and the direction, the dangerous direction, that we are headed in this country. >> i want to ask you about that legislation in a second. but first, the u.s. marshals office reports an explosion of threats against judges in recent years. part of the job you do has always been about making 50% of the people who come in front of your bench unhappy. why do you think there has been such a drastic increase in threats against judges recently? >> you know, i don't know.

i think there's probably a myriad of reasons we can point to. but i would say that we have lost the ability to talk to one another. we have lost the ability to hear each other, to really see each other when we're talking to one another. and i think that we have really lost the ability to communicate civilly to one another. and that, you know, when you lose that ability to really connect and to be open to other people's opinions and agree to disagree sometimes, when we become so stuck that our way is the only way and that our way is the only way it must be, we lose the ability to govern. we lose the ability to respect each other. we lose what really makes us all

important, everything important that we do. and that is the ability to connect to one another on a real basis, on a human basis. >> let's talk about that legislation named after your son. one republican, rand paul, who also suffered a violent attack from his neighbor. he blocked the bill that would keep judges' personal information from showing up online. senator paul refused to meet with you over the summer. but he says he wants the same protection for lawmakers. given the attack at speaker pelosi's house, would you object to amending the bill to include lawmakers? >> you know, i think that congress needs to do what congress needs to do to protect themselves, mr. tapper. but our bill, the judicial security and privacy act, this bill has been ready for over two years. you know and many people -- i just want to say three numbers. 2, 3, 9. it's been two years, three months, and nine days since my only child was viciously gunned

down. judges every day are facing repeated attacks, verbal attempts. the numbers are over-4,000 from last year. we need to act now. and we need to do it now. and this is an urgent matter. and these attacks, like the one on mr. pelosi, are just showing where we are. we're living in a rising tide of tremendous violence, a real clear and present danger exists. and it exists right now for the judiciary. and we have the ability to pass this bill. and i would say that this is a bill that is bipartisan, bicameral.

we actually have -- i last counted. we have 121 representatives. congressmen and women -- congressmen and congresswomen who have signed on from both the republican side and democrat side. and we are ready to pass this bill. i would also now note that the senate has been working in a bipartisan way. and we have people like senator graham cosponsoring this bill, senator cotton, who supports this bill. senator cruz signed on as a cosponsor. this bill is bipartisan. and how wonderful would it be to send a message to the american public that we are working together to ensure that judges are safe, that our democracy is sound, and that we respect the rule of law in the united states of america. >> judge solace, thank you so much for being with us tonight. >> how wonderful. >> thank you so much. and may your son's memory, may it be a blessing. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you so much for having me on, sir. dr. anthony fauci sadly knows what it's like to be a target in this dangerous political climate. president biden's chief medical adviser is here. we're also going to talk to him

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tonight house speaker nancy pelosi has returned to san francisco to be with her husband. the attack on her husband highlighting the dangerous political climate that we're in. one person who's all too familiar with these types of threats, dr. anthony fauci. he's been the target of vitriol and threats over the government's handling over the coronavirus pandemic as well as being the focus of a number of deranged conspiracy theories. dr. fauci and his family have received multiple death threats. dr. fauci joins us now. he's the long-time director of the national institute of

allergy and infectious diseases and is the chief medical adviser to president biden. dr. fauci, good to see you. you've been a medical adviser to seven different presidential administrations. you also were part of a very difficult, many difficult epidemics and crises, but especially i'm thinking of the aids crisis, which obviously brought forward a lot of emotions. have you ever, ever, seen the type of heightened rhetoric and violent attacks that we're seeing today on public officials and public figures? what kind of impact does this have on people who want to get into public service? >> well, jake, i've never seen anything even close to what we're experiencing now and what has beenman fested by what you just recently reported about paul pelosi as an example of the

kind of rhetoric that turns into violence. yeah, i mean, i've seen disagreements, political disagreements, ideological differences, but never the degree of rhetoric turned into action and violence and threats of violence. i think it's going to have a very negative effect on young people who are deciding whether or not they want to go into a number of professions, including public health. and certainly when you talk about people who want to go into public service, where they are going to be scrutinized by people who would disaglee with them, but then when they disagree with them, they turn to rhetoric that's violent and no, i've never seen anything that even approximates this degree in any of my experience over now well over 50 years. >> the man who allegedly attacked speaker pelosi's husband posted memes and conspiracy theories on the internet about covid vaccines,

among other conspiracy theories. an acquaintance told cnn that he seems out of touch with reality. how damaging do you think the ongoing conspiracies about the pandemic have been? >> well, i mean, the conspiracy theories are just wild out there. i mean, they go from things, you know, almost as ludicrous as saying that bill gates and i put chips into vaccines in order to monitor what people do, which -- disincentivize people to get into getting vaccinated when vaccinations are life saving. so, i mean, there are different ways of harming the public, jake. you can directly do it with the violence you just mentioned. but then when you get a conspiracy theory that dissuades someone from getting a life-saving intervention, in many respects, that's also killing people. so, there are so many negative aspects of what's going on with this untruth that is prevalent now.

we're living in an era where lies and conspiracy theories are normalized, which is so unfortunate. >> i know there are still lots of questions about the origin of covid. and obviously the chinese government has not exactly been transparent. so, it's difficult to assess what happened. there is a new interim report out from the top republican on the senate health committee. it's an interim report, and it's not from the intelligence committee. and it's just from one party, not unanimous, not the bipartisan. but this report does say that the covid-19 pandemic was, quote, more likely than not the result of a research-related

incident, unquote. have you seen the report? what is your reaction? >> well, i haven't read it carefully. i've skimmed through it. but i can tell you, jake, that it's really unfortunate because there are at least two very important peer-reviewed, scientific publications most recently that completely diverge from the conclusions that came out in the report to which you're referring. and these are studies that were done, published in high-ranked journals, "science" journal, the medical journal, by a group of evolutionary virologists who just completely disagree with the conclusions that came out of the report that you just mentioned. >> we're seeing the spread of anti-science rhetoric on the midterm campaign trail, especially among conservative candidates. take a listen to kari lake, the arizona republican candidate for governor talking about ivermectin. >> we shouldn't have to feel like drug addicts trying to go out there to buy ivermectin and find somebody who can prescribe it to us and then beg a

pharmacist to give it to us. it works like mad. i've taken it. it's a wonder drug. >> the fda has repeatedly said that people should not take ivermectin to treat covid. in a washington state congressional rate, joe kent called covid a, quote, scam. he called vaccines, quote, experimental gene therapies. both these candidates won their primaries and could very well win on election day. are you concerned by this? >> yes, jake, i'm very concerned about it because what they are spewing are egregious untruths. you know, euphemistic way of saying they're just lying. the data clearly show that these interventions don't work. and to call covid a hoax that has killed 1 million americans, i mean, that's totally preposterous. and yet people are believing that or they don't believe it but they don't care when a candidate says something that's

just obviously incorrect. that does worry me about the status of our democracy. >> so, scores from the national assessment of educational process, also known as the nation's report card, show fourth and eighth graders' scores fell dramatically in reading and then saw the largest ever decline in math. you and i have been talking about the importance of having schools open with steps taken to keep students and teachers safe. in 2020, in 2021. do you wish that teachers had been listening and educators had been listening more closely to what you were saying? because i know you were saying that bars should be closed and schools should be open during the worst of it. >> yeah. i believe so.

i would have hoped that we would have done more to get the kids in school safely to protect them, to surround them with people who are vaccinated by providing a great deal of improved ventilation in the schools. you're right. i have said that many times. and on your show, jake, we've discussed exactly what i said. and you said it very correctly. we should have been closing bars and keeping the schools open. >> dr. anthony fauci, thanks so much for your time tonight. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me, jake. appreciate it. think before you speak. if you're a politician, you should certainly know that by now. there's always a microphone somewhere. oh, here's mine. in the wake of biden and schumer's hot mic moment yesterday we're going to go back in time to revisit some other private intriguing conversations that ended up not so private. that's next. ice-crushing, big blender power on-the-go. so you can throw in your favorite ingredients and blend up

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check, check. this thing on? look, when you work in a world of microphones and cameras, you can never be too sure. after all, few things fly around the web faster than an offhand comment caught on a hot mic. the latest comes from senate majority leader chuck schumer. he was on a tarmac with president biden. schumer offered his take on how the midterm elections are

looking for democrats n. georgia, he's apparently concerned. >> in the commonwealth of pennsylvania, he's more optimistic or at least less pessimistic. >> you can find any number of political analysts across the television networks who will either agree or disagree with both assessments. it's not really about what he said. it's about the fact you and i weren't supposed to hear that. just a couple weeks ago the president was touring hurricane damage in florida when this happened. >> outside the house. >> still don't really know the context of that but we do know it wasn't even biden's best known hot mic f bomb.

>> [ bleep ]. >> through this, it can sometimes be refreshing to see and hear a glimpse of the real person beyond the image. you go back to 1994 just a few years after andre agassi told us, quote, image is everything. that was especially true for someone like nancy kerrigan. her princess image took a hit when she was caught on tape dissing a disney parade. >> it's so corny. mom, i don't want to. >> kerrigan may be tarnishing her golden image. whatever. for those in leadership positions, these hot mic moments provide a glimpse into what they really think, such as when

george w. bush and dick cheney were smiling at a campaign rally while sharing thoughts on a "new york times" reporter. >> also, we see the occasional glimpse into how the sausage is made between world leaders, such as when president obama was trying to deliver a message to vladimir putin. >> these moments also show the political loyalty only goes so far. jesse jackson famously cried when barack obama was elected president. but just a few months earlier, he was saying this about then-senator obama. >> jackson later apologized for that. if nothing else, these moments remind us that politicians, celebrities, world leaders, can

be just as catty as any of us and just as clueless about how anything we say might get overheard. speaking of social media, elon musk is officially the owner of twitter. after months of legal drama, we refers to himself as chief twit. he's fired top executives. the big question is what's next? that's next. president biden signed the inflation reduction act into law this afternoon. ok, so what exactly does it mean for you? out of pocket costs for drugs will be capped.

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it is official, the world's richest man, elon musk, now owns one of the world's most influential social media platforms. twitter says the $44 billion deal closed last month, ending a months-long saga and averting a court battle. musk has already taken his first actions. he fired several of twitter's top leaders, including its ceo, cfo, and top lawyer. these changes brought little surprise for guys who revel in stunts, such as carrying a porcelain sink into twitter's headquarters, tweeting out, let that sink in, elon musk is now your boss.

it appears the news is sinking employee morale is sending it right down the drain. twitter staff still had not been notified of changes, even as media outlets were reporting news of the firings. but the impact of musk's takeover goes far beyond the employees. musk tweeted, the bird is freed, a hint at his policies, which he says would expand the boundaries of free speech. here to discuss, scott galway. scott, good to see you again. last time you spoke, you called it. you said this deal would definitely go through. now that it has, what do you make of elon musk's actions so far? >> well, there's a couple things. one, it's a private company. he has the right to lay off people.

and you could argue at $600,000 per employee versus 1.6 million net at google, there's an argument to be made that twitter is just overstaffed. he has the right to do that. it's a private company. he's paid dearly for it. i think what we're going to talk about a lot more moving forward is whether or not mr. musk is compromised and thereby a platform that has huge influence might be compromised. he gets about a quarter of his cash flow, specifically tesla, and arguably about half his wealth from the success or lack thereof of tesla in china. as the prc is unmasked to weaponize china to influence the midterm elections, you begin to wonder what kind of conflicts he might have in terms of protecting the platform and protecting democracy, if you will, from the prc's influence. so, this is just about to get interesting. he wrote or tweeted that the bird is freed. i would argue that the bird is fried. i think this is going to get very ugly very fast. >> so, what are you anticipating is going to happen? you think there's going to be

lite more manipulation of twitter by foreign actors, exploiting the freedom of speech we have to smear people, put out false allegations, create divisions? what exactly are you talking about? >> i was in brazil with bolsonaro, who has said he would not accept any election result where he is not elected, trying to convince bolsonaro to continue the supply of rare earth materials for his batteries. what happens when election misinformation runs rife out of brazil on twitter's platform. and it's not even whether or not it happens. it's the appearance of the conflict. do we want a conflict with that type of influence? do we want to be wondering whether or not the people who own the platform are putting in place the types of safeguard wes like to see such that the platform isn't weaponized and election misinformation or the influence of the ccp or the prc doesn't run a muck on a platform that has enormous influence. >> interesting. "the washington post" put out a story talking about all the people using the n-word after elon musk took over, which is,

you know, i suppose a twisted, sick celebration of free speech in its way of bigots, also attacking jews, et cetera. that is something that has been a problem for social media companies for years and years. twitter was trying to tackle it. what do you think about that part of it? >> it's a dangerous time. i mean, when we have the former president of the united states and a global celebrity using very pointed anti-semitic terms such as "before it's too late" or "def-con." i think it will go down as a vile stain that defines this era. the conspiracy that endures throughout time is anti-semitism. and it's the quickest to go to language around violence. and i don't think it's -- people on the right who refuse to condemn it and quite frankly people on the left who conflate

empathy for mental illness or this weird perverted view for free speech and don't condemn out of hand. what you saw with adidas and gap walking away from kanye was an important move. i don't think it's an accident we're seeing increase in hate crimes. we're seeing attack on the speaker of the house' husband. i think all of this is related. angela aarons talked about a manifest shallowness. neutrality in the face of evil and this is evil is not neutrality. and unfortunately these platforms are being weaponized. and this notion that free speech plays any role here is nothing but our responsibility to cauterize this evil. >> a lot of people are watching to see if musk is going to reverse the bans that were imposed by the previous runners, previous executives at twitter, and also whether or not he's going to do away with the moderation policies for content. he's been vocal about that before. today he announced the company would be forming a content moderation council with widely

diverse viewpoints. that's his characterization. and no major policy changes would happen until the council convenes. what do you make of that. >> i think it's a good move. i personally -- my bet, jake, is that he's not going to let the former president back on the platform because i think he's a narcissist and doesn't want to share the spotlight with anybody else. i think he's essentially dug a bit for himself, filled it with cobras and grenades and jumped in. i think he's going to find out this policy he's trying to moderate is really difficult. if you look at all the social media platforms, jake, the level of moderation they employee or what the far right would call censorship, is directly correlated to their business success. if you want total lack of moderation, go to 4chan, and it's a disaster. it makes no money. parlor and getter were supposed to liberate us from the censorship on the left are abject business failures. twitter's success is a function of its moderation. not despite it.

consumers and advertisers have voted with their time and their wallets. they want a certain amount of moderation. they want protection from vile hate speech. so, i don't think just for business reasons he's going to turn it into the wild west again. >> all right. scott galloway, thank you so much. good to see you again. >> thanks, jake. good to be with you. after a long week, we could all use some levity. i know the perfect show to help us all unwind. a new season of the series "the white lotus" kicks off this weekend on our sister channel, hbo. this time it is staged in sicily. that alone is enough of a draw. the cast is also tremendous, and it includes oscar winner f. murray abraham who is here with a sneak preview of what to expect in season 2 and his crazy character that he plays. that's next. h the flight attendants. if they're not nervous, then i'm not going to be nervous. financially, i'm the flight attendant in that situation.

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who do shows but it's true. we've become very close. and adam was the perfect son. i can't tell you, man. everything about this was positive. and i'm so pleased about how it looks. it's so great that it comes across. i'm glad you liked it. >> i loved it. i just watched episode one. i'm going to watch along with it as it drops every week. adam is often bothered with your characters constant flirt with younger women. it's really quite cringe. >> dad you have to knock it off. >> what's the problem? >> what are you doing? what's the point. >> flirting is one of the pleasures of life. >> do you actually think you have a chance with any of these women. >> deponent be rude. >> i'm just saying you're 80 years old. >> i'm still a man. i get older and older but the

women i desire remain young. natural right. you can relate to that. >> the conversation takes a little. it goes on from there in a way that, i'm not going to talk about. but you've described the role as a present. you got from heaven. and you really, it's just so, great. how you play this character because he's really awful in so many ways. it must have been fun. >> i love him. he's from a time that allows him to say anything he wants to and he gets away with it because he's charming. i think some people are going to want to object to him. but they're going to forgive him because he's just so much fun. and he's so innocent finally. considering what a dirty old man he is. but he's really got a great soul. >> he's a dirty old man. this season takes place in italy. your character has brought his son and grandson there to

discover, their italian roots. in real life your dad is from syria but your mom is from italy. does this character hold some special meaning for you given your real life italian heritage? >> oh, yeah. yeah. i've done a lot of movies in italy. and where we were shooting in sicily allowed me to see calabria which is where my mother was from. and i have a strong connection to my italian roots. it means a lot to me. i love the food for one thing. but if there was any place in the world i would have to live aoeu side aside from the u.s. it would be italy. and now sicily. i'm a big fan of sicily. >> i've been a big fan for you since scar face. and amadeous in 1994. i've been thinking about your career to prepare for this interview. you and ben kingsly i think can

and have played pretty much any white ethnic group and latinos as well. in terms of who you can play whole pal pallet that i just mentioned. is there a channel to that at all? >> it's part of the fun. i do a lot of shakespeare too. that's a lot of fun. the idea that i'm not pigeon holed is a big plus. and it allows me to play any place in the world which i've done. it's a, an actors life when it's good. this job has got to be one of my favorite jobs in my life. sicily is like heaven. >> it's great. and it's great to have you on. don congratulatelations lations oncongratulations on

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