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these are about affirmative action. we're live outside of the court. plus opening statements in the criminal trial against the trump organization. we'll look at those charges against the former president trump's personal business. and the man accused of attacking nancy pelosi's husband will be charged. what he brought with him when he broke into the speaker's home. but the supreme court will begin hearing oral arguments as can considers two cases on affirmative action in higher education. jessica schneider joins us now now. >> the supreme court has upheld affirmative action but it could be banned nationwide. all eyes and ears are on the conservative justices because it is very likely they will in fact ban affirmative action in particular the chief justice here john roberts has been
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outspoken about racial issues in many cases in past years. he put it this way in one of the cases. he said the only way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race. to all indications are that this court will in fact over turn precedent yesterday again. but the arguments starting in just seconds. the first case will be against unc, the second case will be against harvard. these cases have been winding their way through the lower courts for the past several years. all brought by a group called students for fair admissions. they've been arguing that affirmative action unfairly discriminates against asian-americans and white students in favors of blacks and m minorities. they have lost in the lower courts but the supreme court will hear both cases today. the newest justice, ketanji brown jackson, she'll be recused herself from the harvard case. so only eight justices will hear that case. because she, before she joined
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court, she was on the board of overseers at harvard. so a lot is at stake here. a lot on the line. if the court bans affirmative action, that will mean that colleges and universities around the county will no longer consider race as a factor in admissions. many colonelleges have said the can't achieve the racial diversity on campuses without it. we'll see what happens after the oral arguments. the decision is not likely until sometime next year, spring or summer. >> jessica schneider, thank you. joining plea now to discuss, elliott williams, at the department of justice, so when we look at what is at stake here and what the court will be considering, you noted that both sides are using brown versus board of ed in their arguments. that is a case that people remember. they know what that means. and yet both sides are using it. how? >> well people think they know what it means.
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brown versus the board of ed, that set in motion the desegregation of schools in the 1950s. one side is saying that brown versus board of education was about equalizing thing for black people because of how schools were de segregated. the other side is saying, that is not the case. brown versus board of education envisioned a race blind society in which we don't even talk or think about race. so they're both using this iconic supreme court case to sort of make their case on this very momentous day. >> any sense of how this is going to play out? >> yeah. it is really interesting, the supreme court in 1979, 2003 and 2013 and 2016 had every opportunity to overturn the use of race in college admissions but choose not to. the only thing that is different today in 2022 is the composition of the supreme court. and it appears based on sort of counting noses and analyst and
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prior statements of the justices they are poised to do exactly that. it is this kind of switching as a court that sort of helps leads the public to lose faith in the supreme court because it is merely a personnel question. it is not a change in how -- nothing has changed in the law. it is merely just personnel on the court. >> stay we many because i do want to get your take on opening staples underway in the tax fraud trial against the trump organization. they are accused of a 15 year scheme of providing untaxed compensation. kara scannell handling this one for us. the former president is not a defendant in this case. there is a talk about the impact on his business. what are the charges here. >> the trump organization is facing grand larceny, tax fraud and falsifying business records. so the trump organization, if it were indicted, it would not
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under new york law face any sort of dissolution or shut down. but the fine that's it could be face could be $1.6 million. this is the company the president built from the ground up. he was running it since he left office but he still owns the company. it wou it wo it would be a black eye, he was not wanting a plea deal to avoid this trial. he was not interested in that and he wants to go to trial because he did not believe the company did anything wrong and did not want to admit to any guilt. so we're waiting for opening statements to begin. one of the jurors appeared to be late this morning. so it hasn't started yet. but it will begin with the manhattan county attorney's office and they will open the case that they didn't report or pay payroll taxes on some compensation and one is the former chief financial officer allen weisselberg.
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he's pleaded guilty and one of the earlier witnesses in the prosecution presentation of the evidence and he will admit that he didn't pay taxes on company cars, a company apartment and private school tuition for two of his grandchildren. next up will be the trump organi organization's turn. there are two chances for them to talk to the jury. they're expecting to say that weisselberg was a rogue employee who did this to benefit himself and not the company. then the prosecution will call their first witness. that is a current executive, the controller jeff mcconnie. he received immunity for this testimony before the grand jury. he will be one of the first witnesses, we leave the first witness on the stand for the prosecution and he could walk the jury through how the decisions were made at the trump administration and lay the groundwork for how this scheme worked. >> kara scannell, thank you. so elliott, when we look here, in terms of the
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prosecution, cara laying out who we will hear from in terms of a witness, what do you expect to hear from the prosecution? >> what they have to prove is in tent and that is the most challenging thing here for any prosecutor. they have to prove that the trump organization was aware that what they were doing was unlawful. and i think that the defense can actually poke holes in that by saying, look, we had a pattern. we were sloppy in our record keeping. we certainly were not trying to run afoul of the law. and frankly the whole process of picking a jury is getting folks, if you're a defense attorney, getting in the heads of some of those folks and getting them to poke holes in the prosecution's case. >> there is also, it is interesting, if found guilty, this isn't a major financial hit to the company. i think the fine is about $1.6 million, or $1.7 million. what will happen, if the
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prosecution is able to prove the case and convince the jury. >> they'll have to pay the fines. you can't get out of paying a fine. no one is going to jail. that can happen at times when charging a corporation or a entity, a business entity with a crime. that is not going to be the case here. it is about fines. now, look, if the trump organization loses they could appeal this to the new york state court of appeals but it is not a fprofound or see the end f the trump organization. >> thank you. at tack on nancy pelosi's husband, the suspect is expected to be charged with multiple felony accounts. he entered the home with a bag of zip ties and duct tape and a hammer. veronica miracle is in san francisco. so we are waiting on those charges. what are the potential charges the suspect is facing? >> reporter: well, erica, for
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those state charges he's facing attempted homicide, assault with a deadly weapon, and elder abuse among other felonies according to the san francisco police department. and in addition to those state charges, we're also told that federal officials are considering a federal charge against david de pape and that would be related to the assault, kidnapping or murder of family members of certain federal officials and if that charge is handed down we could expect that as early as this week according to a law enforcement source. the details about this investigation very disturbing. the district attorney's office has told us that david de pape went upstairs into the bedroom where paul pelosi was sleeping and we're told by sources that he tries to tie pelosi up and was shouting where is nancy. he had brought zip ties and duct tape and the hammer that was used in the attack according to sources. we'll told that paul pelosi is expected to make a full
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recovery. sources tell us that he is dealing with very serious injuries that includes a skull fracture, as well as injuries to his arm and his hands after being attacked by that hammer by that man. and we did see speaker pelosi during this very difficult time. she quickly came out of her garage and got whisked away by her motorcade. that was yesterday. she's sent a letter to her colleagues talking about how this is been incredibly difficult for her family. staying in a -- saying in a statement that our children and grandchildren are heartbroken and traumatized by our life-threatening attack on our pop. we are grateful for the emergency services and for the life-saving medical care that he is receiving. and de pape is expected to be in court on tuesday for his arraignment. >> appreciate it. thank you. joining us now. cnn law enforcement analyst former secret service agent jonathan wackrow. there have been increased calls for better security.
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perhaps more widespread security when it comes to members and their families. my colleague on capitol hill, melanie zanona points out the protocol hasn't kept pace with the threats. are the resources to provide the security that may be needed now in 2022? >> well, obviously the resources are not there, erica. we actually have to find those resources and we have to apply the right level of protection based upon threats that our lawmakers are facing every single day. this is important. because it is not just about protecting an individual, a single lawmaker, a member of leadership, this is about protecting our democratic process. and what you've seen is that our democracy has literally been under attack. on both sides. from the republicans and democrats over the last two years. because of this rise in political violence. just this summer you saw lee zeldin while campaigning was physically attacked on stage.
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we saw that outside of justice kavanaugh's house in the washington metropolitan district that someone was arrested with a weapon who stated i'm going to kill a justice. and now we see that the spouse of the number two person in line to the office of the presidency was attacked in their home, so we know what the threat environment looks like today. we have all of these warnings, even going back to january of this year, dhs put out an intelligence memo stating that members of congress were specifically subjected to online attacks that could lead to physical violence. so we know the threat environment. we know the warnings are out there. protection has a purpose. and we need to apply it today before something tragic even more tragic than what happened to mr. pelosi occurs. >> so you paint the picture of why it needs to be done but you point out the resources aren't
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there. what are the answers, what are the other fixes when it comes to judges? there have been especially dealing with not even just supreme court justices but other judges, a push to remove private information and talking about the same for lawmakers. what would something like that change? >> well, listen, what it does is it makes a gathering information and intelligence in a preattack you know, methodology more difficult, right. like i shouldn't be able to figure out with ease where a supreme court justice lives or a member of congress lives. interrupt that chain of attack. interrupt that intelligence gathering that will make it more difficult to focus attention by nefarious individuals on these targets. but again we have to take a different approach, right. i think that capitol police has their challenges because they have so many members of rank and file in leadership. but we have to take a more collective approach between state, local and federal assets
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working together to provide the necessary protection of our lawmakers. and again, our democratic process. >> what concerns you most this morning. when we look at what we know, john made the point earlier on "new day", that this man came in with zip ties and duct tape. that indicates someone who plans to be there for a while or looking at spl sort of a hostage situation. would you agree with that? >> oh, absolutely. this is -- mr. miller was correct. this is the definition of premeditated. somebody actually took the time to think about what am i going to do when i entering into this house. i'm bringing zip ties and duct tape, bringing a hammer to get into the house and use it as a potential weapon. and what do i do when i'm inside? i look for my target. i go through and search the house. this isn't a crime of opportunity where i smash the back window and take something of value.
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this suspect went in and searched the house and found mr. pelosi and they were actually trying to make target identification saying where is nancy. all of this eliminates the -- the narrative that this is a crime of opportunity broadly or that this is somebody that is just caught up in the criminal activity of san francisco and lack of prosecutorial consideration in the past. all of that is eliminated. this was a premeditated attack on a key member of congress that we know, full stop. >> jonathan, always appreciate your insight. thank you. >> thank you, eric a. well in case you lost count over the weekend, i'm hear for you. eight days to go until the midterms and hoping that a last minute strategy could be what they need to sway voters. and in south korea as the county mourns the deaths of more than 150 people killed in a crowd surge during a halloween
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just over a week now until the official election day. democrats in tight races now trying to switch things up with their strategy with a late push to tie these midterm elections to the january 6 attack and the threat to democracy. hoping that could sway voters who may still be on the fence. isaac deveer has new reporting on all of this. so tell us about this last-ditch effort to try to switch the messaging again and bring more people in. >> well, look, democrats are looking at what happened over the last couple of months and they admit they have failed to think about democracy as a voting issue and failed to connect it to people's lives in
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a way that matter and connected with the economic issues that are obviously in the forefront of people's minds. so what they're hoping to do is in these last couple of days, before the midterm elections, and it is early voting is going on, reaching out to voters who are maybe not on the fence about who they would vote for but on the fence about whether they're going to vote at all. going after the voters who turned out in 2020 for democrats thinking they were doing something to preserve the country and they're saying we need you one more time. we need you to think about it in this way. they're going to black voters in a lot of places. and saying, there was an attempt to throw out our vote and we need to connect that to what you need to do now. other key democratic groups thinking that in these -- what may be very close elections all over the country, the couple thousand votes could be the difference. >> we'll be watching to see if that pays off for them. appreciate the reporting. thank you. >> thank you.
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joining me to you to dive deeper, the managing editor for axios. good to see you. picking up where isaac left off. last week we started to see the shift of democrats saying, oh, yeah, we need to talk about the economy more and in a different way. now this week it is wait we're going to try, democracy is really important, we're going to try one last push here with democracy. is there anything that you have seen that a week out this is going to move the needle? why now? >> erica, you're right to notice all of this. it is one week out and i think what we're seeing is a little bit of throw everything up and see what sticks. it may depend race by race. i think people making these closing arguments could make a difference on former president obama maybe perhaps uniquely gifted to shape that democracy message. we're seeing liz cheney, republican liz cheney now pushing in states like arizona
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to try to say, hey, democracy is really more important than partisanship in a emplmoment li that. so i think you'll see dual messages and will the attack on paul pelosi and tieing that to kind of violent rhetoric, is there away to tie that argument to the election denier argument and just cast all of that as a democracy should override partisanship. there is an effort to do it. i don't know whether it will work. >> i guess we'll know in about -- i won't say eight days because it could be longer than that. but maybe by the end of the next week. when we look at liz cheney, right, in arizona, with this new attack ad, kari lake responded that basically saying hey, thanks, liz cheney, i've raised plenty of money off of that ad. is liz cheney an effective surrogate. >> i think it is very tough. i also think that i talked to voters in pennsylvania last
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week, people are just sick of the ads. they're getting text messages. they're getting emails. there is so much money in this system and the broader point that you just raised with margaret, they're trying everything. everyone is now plowing money into every time of ad, every surrogate is going to be out there. the question is what really breaks through and you also have to point out that 22 million people have already voted. so there are fewer people that are willing to even want to hear messages or be convinced. and i think at this point, you're talking to your partisan voters on both sides, your trying to get those people out. but really in some of the close races, the 50/50 races in arizona and nevada, it is trying to make sure they return the ballot by november 8th. >> it is interesting when you look at early numbers. the sheer numbers of people who vote in places like georgia as well. and margaret, you were talking about one thing that is different in the waning days is
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the messages that they are using. president obama and president biden stayed away from campaigning and also out there on the trail. when we see that push and even sort of more events being added here, i mean, does that continue straight through for the next eight days, do you think? >> yeah. and i think, look, this is just as david mentioned, a matter not just of messaging to persuadable but turning out the people that you are counting on to vote and i think maryland is one state we're all watching. first of all, biden's closing state is not arizona or georgia. that tells you everything you need to know about the moment. but also a very dynamic leader there could be the african american governor of maryland if the polls are correct, wes moore and author and afghanistan veteran would le leading what polling suggests right now is an all basically people of color top of the ticket including his running mate, including the attorney general. that is a message that joe biden
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wants to get behind and that is the state where it appears to be safe for him to get behind that message. you're looking at a state now in maryland where about one out of three of the expected voters to turn out are african american and where it could be the kind of message that democrats so desperately wish that they could take into georgia and into pennsylvania and into arizona. but perhaps messaging around maryland will at least send the signal they want to send to other parts of the country. >> david, i'm curious, in your reporting in your time there in pennsylvania, how much messaging is out there from officials and candidates about the fact that they will likely not know the results, certainly for senate, come tuesday night, come election night. because the way mail-in ballots have to be counted. it is not the only state that has specific rules around that. do you think there is enough out there for voters so this doesn't turn into a 2020 moment of people being shocked.
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>> we're sure trying. i pushed a story last week on this in an interview with the secretary of state of pennsylvania saying we're not going to have a winner in the senate race on election night. remember, it is took four days for news outlets to call pennsylvania for joe biden in 2020. and that was basically an 80,000 vote difference. if the mehmet oz, john fetterman race is as close as polls are suggesting, fetterman had a narrow lead but republicans are very confident in pennsylvania, even though the polls don't reflect it. i think we just need to tell people that you're going to have to wait. it doesn't mean anything nev air yau -- nefarious is going on. because they are not allowed to process mail-in ballots until the polls close. so you have the question of the red mir age. and we have to underline this. the first votes you see on the board, you're probably seeing big republican advantages. and remember donald trump was up for most of the night in pennsylvania.
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democrats are very worried. and then the mail-in votes came in. and right now democrats, it is very heartening if your a democrat. they're doing very well with the mail-in voting. there are about 700,000 early votes cast in pennsylvania. those are 70% democratic votes. so they're banking that vote but they don't count until later which is confusing for people but i think it is important for us in the media to keep underlining that so people realize it is not anything nefarious when the results change in to wednesday or it could even be thursday of next week that we're still counting those ballots. >> and the georgia -- in georgia you could look at a runoff so we may not know until december in georgia if that gap isn't closed. >> it is feeling very familiar, my friends. margaret and david, good to see you both this morning. >> thanks, erica. and a celebrate for halloween turns deadly in seoul. two families here in the united states mourn the deaths of their
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as south korea observes a week long period of mourning, authorities are still trying to determine what led to a deadly crowd surge during a halloween street festival over the weekend. 154 people were killed on saturday after thousands packed into narrow streets in a popular night life district in seoul. the big event was the first one
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since the end of covid restrictions. authorities say there were no organizers so there were no guidelines on how to deal with a gathering that large. cnn's senior international correspondent will ripley joining us with more. what more do we know as of this morning? >> reporter: you know, it is really staggering that when you had 100,000 people out here, there were no crowd control guidelines in place. they added some extra officers, just over 130 out of here but some of them were deployed to a protest in a different area. soine though people were walking to the police station which is literally within eye sight just down the block, telling people, and telling the police that these crowds packed inside of this alley, this very narrow alley were just growing and growing dangerously quickly, the police were not responding. this is what witnesses are saying. and in the end, when the time -- by the time officers did arrive, it was so loud and people thought that the officers were just in halloween costumes that it was pretty infective at the
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beginning. but paramedics describes the situation when they did arrive, that there had been people in the crowd shouting, push, push. and some of the people in the front particularly the young women, most of the people who were killed in their 20s, more than half of them women, they basically were piled up about ten people high where you could only see their faces. you couldn't even see their bodies or their legs because they've been pushed ford and twisted in different directions. so as this memorial by the subway station entrance which is where they have accessed the area, the nightclub area in seoul, this memorial is growing but so is public anger at the government for the lack of preparation, for a lack of crowd control guidelines because there wasn't one organizer. people are saying here in south korea that doesn't mean there shouldn't have been officers in place to prevent people from gathering in such a small area so quickly. and so, right now it is a scene
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of calm but we've seen if recent days and in the last few hours people coming out here expressing anger and frustration and demanding answers, erica. >> yeah. understandably. thank you from seoul. this just into cnn, forward prosecutors have called harry dunn to testify in the seditious conspiracy trial against the members of oath keepers. whitney wild joining us now with the latest. so dunn is on the stand now. the proceedings were delayed last week due to a positive covid test. bring us up to speed on these developments? >> harry dunn is likely one of the last witnesses for the prosecution because they will wrap up late this week. very likely thursday, pending any other challenges that force this trial to be delayed. a couple of notable things about harry dunn's testimony. he's a united states chemapitol police officer and he's been extremely outspoken since the riot and come up multiple times
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in this case because defense attorneys have sought to build the narrative that when the oath keepers went in, because they are interacting with dunn, they were there to help him. prescr presc prosecutors asked if anybody offered assistance. he said absolutely not. then prosecutors asked him what would have helped you in the moment and he simply said leaving the building. >> wow, appreciate it. thank you. just ahead here. a training academy for teachers who want to be armed in the classroom. how one uta sheriff's office is helping to make sure they have gun safety. atter. french toast the way it's m meant to be. try all three flavors. onlyly at ihop. download the app and earn free food with every purchase. >> tech: at safelite, we take care of vehicles with the latest technology. we can replace your windshield ...and recalibrate your safety system. >> customer: and they recled my old glass.
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tomorrow the parkland florida school shooter will be sentenced to life in principle without parole. but before that happens the victim's families have the chance to tell him exactly how that horrific massacre changes their lives. many of them were shocked an disappointed he was not given the death penalty that killed 17 people at the high school. three jurors voted against the death penalty and in florida all jurors must agree unanimously. the wake of increased gun violence at schools around the u.s., dozens states have made it possible for teachers to carry guns in schools an in the classroom. in utah, educators need to only have a permit. additional training is not required. utah county sheriff mike smith wants teachers to understand what it means and he created a six week course for the possibility of a school shooting. thanks for taking the time this
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morning. >> absolutely. thanks for having me. >> in this six-week course, what do you want someone to walk away with? >> you know, at end of the day we want them to walk away with a plan, that if they find themselves in one of these horrific situations, that they have a plan of how they're going to act and that they know they're capabilities. we want them to be aware of how important it is, if you're going to bring a gun to school, how important it is to have the training and the knowledge behind using that weapon. >> do you think this type of training should be mandatory in schools that do allow staff and educators to carry a weapon? >> i do. i think that we're really seeing some neglect in allowing teachers to carry weapons to school and then not providing policy procedures and training
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to go along with that. >> i was listening to an interview that you did and there were snippets of one of your classes. and the reactions from people after they had taken the class. some people decided they didn't want that responsibility. what do you hear from people after this six weeks of training? have you seen people change their outlook or change their thinking in how effective they could or could not be? >> yeah, we have. we've had teachers that have come through and we put them through some tough scenarios and we've had some teachers make some mistakes and they realize that they are not up to the profip pro -- the proficiency level and thaed made that critical decision and that is what we're asking, to make critical decisions about what your capabilities are. and if they are not where they should be, then work on those things before you bring a gun to school. >> so how do you teach them to
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make the decisions. over the six weeks of the course, what is taught? >> so we go over a lot of things. and it is not just guns that we talk about. in fact, the majority of things that we talk about, we go over mindfulness, that is one of the largest parts of this academy is being aware of yourself and sur surroundings and your capabilities. we go over self-defense. we go over tactical trauma, how to stop a bleed, how to help someone if you need to do that. we also do a lot of things as far as we put them in a virtual simulator and they get to experience what it would be like to be in a active shooter situation. where they're actually interacting with the people in the scenario. >> i imagine that is pretty emotional? >> it is. you know, we always, we talk to the teachers about what stress does to their bodies and as they come out the scenario, we point out how elevated their heart
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rate is and what just a scenario that they know is not real did to their body. >> have you seen an increase in demand for this class? >> yes, we have. we'll put this out, sometimes i don't even ad it because i have a waiting list. but we'll put out that we're holding a class and it will fill up really fast. >> and has there been any pushback? >> not really. i mean there is always critics. there is people that don't understand what we're doing. there are people that just look at this at a service level and saying why are you teaching the teachers to do your job and that is not what we're doing. we don't want them to do our jobs, we want them to lockdown and let them know they have a right to defend themselves if someone does make it into their classroom. >> who else and before i let you go, so this is for educators, for people working in schools
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who do have the right where they live to bring this with them, do you also bring in another law enforcement officials or can anybody also say i wan to take this class. i want to be better prepared should the unthinkable happen? >> right now we've limited just to employees of schools. that -- we're having a hard time just getting all of them through with the demand that we're seeing just for that. >> sheriff mike smith, appreciate you taking the time this morning. thank you. >> thank you. someone could be in for a very big treat on this halloween night. the powerball jackpot now $1 billion. could all be yours. and you could share it with me. . mhmm mmmmm. that's deep eatin'. sliced right in front of you. it's a j jersey mike's thing. (vo) give your business an advantage right now, with nationwide 5g from t-mobile for business.
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this could be the best halloween treat ever. ever. tonight the powerball lottery has reached an estimated $1 billion. it is the second time the jackpot has reached the big "b." joining me now ryan young who is going to share his winnings with me which is super thoughtful. always love -- just nt want you to know that. in all seriousness. this is fun. i know people like to poo poo why do you buy a ticket. it is fun to dream, right?
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>> it is so fun to dream. and think about that. you have to say with abig "b", most of the times you're not smiling at the gas station but at numbers like this, we had to come to this location because a big ticket was sold at this location in mapleton, georgia, so people think this is a lucky lottery location. so i'm talking about people have been streaming in and out of the place to get tickets. they make about $30,000 a week in some of the sales here. so you look at all of the winning tickets from all over the years, people come to this location to get that bit of luck of you could understand why. and in fact take a listen to some people who were outside waiting in line for the last few hours. >> how crazy does it get at this location whether it has a big jackpot like this for the lottery? >> it gets really crazy, man. because someone won here a while ago, $160 million so people come from all over the state to get
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this lottery lucky ticket over here and to come and get the good barbecue too. >> this is the winning ticket. >> which one? >> this one right here. >> so you think it is going to be the ticket? >> yes. >> so how much money did you spend this time to try to win this lottery? >> okay, i'm responsible this time. because georgia lottery said we should be responsible. while you are playing. but i've chosen to be responsible. because i want to be billionaire. >> reporter: hey, look, we talked to a police officer who came here with an office pool. it is over $280 to get tickets from this location. they told me they all plan to hang it up if they win the lottery. so you hear different people saying they are excited about a billion dollars and the big question is what would you do if you won. i would give some to chair i. what would you do if you had a chance to taste the billion dollars. what would you do?
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>> i would definitely give some ra way. i would pay off my family's debts and student loans or mortgages. my sister is keeping a list of who gets what since she's 18 so i may follow her lead on that. and then, ryan young, i'm going to disappear. >> reporter: but why pay it off if you have a million dollars. >> no i'm paying off other people's debts in my family. >> reporter: that makes sense. >> and maybe i'll send a little something your way, ryan young. >> please. i'll do the same thing for you. >> i appreciate it. and happy halloween. good luck. >> happy halloween. thanks for joining us today. happy halloween. i hope it is filled with treats, no tricks on this monday. i'm erica hill. "at this hour" with kate bolduan starts after a quick break.
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