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battleground georgia. and cnn senior data reporter harry hinton is here with us. he is awake. he is alive. he is at the magic wall. he is fired up and ready to go, as we can see. harry, we love having you here. tell us what is happening in the georgia senate race. >> look. look how close this is. herschel walker with 49%. raphael warnock with 49%. normally went we don't include libertarian candidates. but i have chase oliver at 2%. why? because the rules in georgia basically stipulate that if the leading candidate does not get a majority of the vote on election day in november, there in fact will be a runoff come december. and right now the forecast suggests that neither herschel walker nor raphael warnock will reach that majority of the vote. but i just want to point out how important georgia is in terms of winning control of the united states senate. if herschel walker wins the democrats chance of controlling the senate 26%. if raphael warnock wins, it jumps up to 6%.

whoever wins georgia, has a pretty good chance of controlling the senate overall. here is the other thing i'll point out. the fact that georgia is so close, look at all of these races right now. arizona, pennsylvania, georgia, nevada, all within three points. democrats must win probably three of these four races. and right now it's just way too close to call. >> i know, this is your super bowl, baby. i know how excite you'd are about this. tell us about the georgia governor's race. >> yeah so, if the georgia senate race is too close to call, the georgia's governor race not really. this is the forecast of the georgia governor's race. brian kemp with 58%. stacey abrams, the democrat, just 45%. at this particular point, it looks like kemp will get well above that 50% to avoid the runoff that would occur if he got less than that, or if abrams and he got less than that. while the senate race looks tight, the governor's race, brian kemp is the clear favorite heading into election day. >> harry enten, thank you very much. great to have you on the program. mix, pleasure. >> i think this calls for a

duelling panel to dissect what's going on in georgia. >> i hear them getting excited behind you right now. >> they are. >> we're going to be throwing in soon in a moment. you got five minutes on the clock, remember. >> four minutes. >> oh, you didn't know the message? i guess she gets four minutes. sorry. >> all right. four minutes. set the clock, please. i'm going to bring in s.e. cupp, and john avlon, guys. i'm also going to waste some time playing this new anti-biden ad that stephen miller of child separation at the border fame, trump aide, is putting out about how he believes that biden is anti-white. >> when did racism against white people become okay? joe biden put white people last in line for covid relief funds. kamala harris said disaster aid should go to nonwhite citizens first. liberal politicians block access to medicine based on skin color.

progressive corporations, airlines, universities, all hopefully live discriminate against white americans. racism is always wrong. the left's anti-white bigotry must stop. >> i have to read this statement from stephen miller's outlet called america first legal. "our advertisements make the point that racism is always wrong, regardless of who it is argued the against. the goal of advertisements that afl is running simply informs americans about something that they all know to be true. no one should face racial discrimination regardless of the circumstances. s.e., he thinks the airlines and corporations discriminate against white people. >> his victimization, his level of victimization knows no bounds. >> you know, this -- this kind of garbage is partly why we are here today with paul pelosi in the hospital, with a shortage on election workers because they're too afraid to go and do their job, with judges and public

officials and lawmakers needing extra security because of death threats, and threats to their family. because trump and republicans some years ago decided to tell every white man in america to be afraid of everybody else. and to be angry at everybody else. and everybody else is coming for you. and that meant the media was lying to you. minorities are coming for your jobs. women are coming to emasculate you. the deep state is coming to, i don't know, raid mir hossein moussavi -- mar-a-lago, and you need to hate them. and white male grievance machine has brought us here, to very scary times. so that ad, that ad is the culmination of, and i think sort of the trigger, the catalyst of so much of this awful political rhetoric and violence. >> this is running in georgia right now. i'm so confused.

does stephen miller want voters to vote for herschel walker or do they prefer they vote for a white candidate? >> i don't know. i think stephen miller is throwing stuff against the wall to sow what sticks. >> no, i think this is calculated. >> but i will say this. i don't think it is a, you know, a sort of reiteration of something. this is a continuation of something. >> oh, yeah. >> and it's a continuation that really began since reconstruction, with "birth of a nation." i'm going the take it all the way back there. the very first thing they did is set up structure of white grievance. black people are coming. they're coming to get you. and that message has been used over and over again in a variety of different ways. stephen miller is just the latest of the continuation. this is not new. >> white grievance politics and the idea that anything -- everything is discriminate night against white people and giving blacks special rights. this goes back to andrew johnson vetoing the civil rights act in 1865, 1866. this is jesse helms versus harvey gantt, the ad where the black hand takes away the white

guy's paycheck. this is a distillation of white grievance politics we've seen. kudos to actually really distilling it that well. this is the kind of bs we see all the time, and it's just rank racism. >> so, again, in georgia, who does this help? in georgia? >> that's what i'm saying. >> we know exactly what it's about. this isn't arguing intelligently against affirmative action. >> okay. >> panel, thank you very much for that. laura, fascinating. and i'm sorry. that stephen miller ate up a minute of my time there. >> any time. but now dante sawworth and kirsten powers are back with me right now. we'll start the clock. obviously apparent that raisa huge part of this particular election, particularly in georgia. remember this moment in reaction to what they were saying earlier. senator lindsey graham had to say about walker, the disruption of the so-called liberal narrative. listen to this. >> we're a party of racists,

sean. you and me are racists. the republican party is racist. well, what happens when the republican party elects and nominates herschel walker, an african american black heisman trophy winner, right, olympian? it destroys the whole narrative. they're scared to death of herschel walker because if herschel walker becomes a republican, maybe every other young child in america of color might want to be a republican. >> is that the fear? is that the goal? is that the thought here? what do you think. you're laughing. >> no, it's just the grievance, right? it's just this grievance of oh, poor us. people call us racist. or the complaints about the anti-white racism. anti-white racism is not a thing. that doesn't exist. racism is systemic. it's something that's backed by power. it's institutional. there is no institutional racism. there is no power structure that is organized against white people.

it just doesn't exist. so this is just a story that republicans are telling. and, you know, it's not true that everybody runs around calling them racist all the time. when people do racist things, people say that. so i think, you know, it just feels like he is using herschel walker right there. he is just sort of pointed to him look, we're going use him to prove that we're not racist, which is also another one of these things that people say. oh, i can't be a racist because my best friend is black, or whatever it is. guess what? you actually can be racist and support herschel walker. it's a lot more complicated than that. i'm not saying you are, but the idea that he is saying i can't be is ridiculous. >> i hear you. what do you think? why the narrative? is it because it's working? >> i don't know if it's working. i mean, if you look at the polling numbers, they're neck and neck, right? it's 49-49. i turn around a little bit, kirsten. i look at some of the attacks that herschel suffered. and they're consistent with some of the attacks that we've seen

on other african american conservatives, you know. clarence technologies byron donalds. heck, the congressional black caucus is now supporting a white liberal progressive congressman from gary, indiana over an african american woman veteran who happens to be a republican. so i think there is a lot of race injected into all this unnecessarily. and, you know, it would be really nice if we got back on who's qualified, who's the best representative of my personal beliefs, because that's who i'm going to elect. >> the thing about this, dante, i think the reason they're not supporting is because being of the same race as some of the affinity does not automatically qualify you or endear you. it has to be the qualifications. >> yeah, it does. when you look at what herschel walker is and what he has done throughout his life, it doesn't add up. it doesn't compare to what raphael warnock has done. he has dedicated his entire life. he has a lifetime of service. when the gop comes out there and

says herschel walker is going to be one that young black children look up to, it's just not true. and i think we've seen that throughout this entire campaign, where the black community more so identifies with raphael warnock, someone who has given a lifetime of service, someone who is speaking out for student debt, someone who is speaking out for health care, universal health care. all these things that most black americans most identify with in the south, they do not identify with herschel walker at all. >> i wonder if it comes down to the idea the assumption as long as you put a black candidate up you will assume you have a particular demographic that will follow. it's not field of dreams. if you build it, they don't obviously necessarily vote. on that kevin costner reference, boom. >> well, laura, wow, the timing is impeccable. but also, your panel was so provocative that our panel wanted in. do you have some herschel walker? >> these aren't the rules.

>> new rules. go. >> is ray liotta coming out of the outfield already and james earl jones? no, i know the field of dreams reference. it ends there. >> thank you. this will be good. go. >> i would simply say when it comes to herschel walker is his positioning right now is the epitome of racism to me. >> how so? >> because he is clearly not qualified for this position. and yes, they did just prop up anyone that they could control because they know once they have him in place, he will vote the way they want him to. >> that's literally the argument being made. maybe he did pay for some abortions, but we know he'll vote along mitch mcconnell's line. that's the argument being made. if the argument is get past racism, we should have much more racial and diversity between the two parties. but if the argument is we have to get past that and focus on qualifications, well, you disowned yourself. >> okay. i told you it was worth it. >> the owned comment, love it. a perfect conversation and a conversation we're going to keep having.

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we have some new video tonight that shows federal agents firing pepper ball projectiles to push venezuelan migrants back into mexico. this was at the southern border near el paso, texas on monday. and that's where officials say several migrants became combative with at least one throwing a rock, injuring an agent. another reportedly assaulting an agent with a flag pole. so let's talk about the border

situation, what's really happening. we're back with s.e. cupp, cnn political commentatcommentator. maria cardona is joining us. we have john avlon here as well. john, are enough democrats talking about what's happen at the border. republicans are talking about it every day. why aren't democrats talking about it? >> when it comes to crime, there is no reason to see these issues. the fiction that democrats are in favor of open border is total bs. there are a lot of ways to measure this. there were a record number of hot apprehensions at the border last year. that implies enforcement. it's not working. the border is a mess. but democrats should be trying to own it and say we want to pass comprehensive reform. and you're not probably going to get that from folks on the far right. >> they should be talking about it more. and in fact, when republicans bring it up as a point of criticizing democrats, they are talking about it. because john, you're absolutely right. the history is that democrats have always been the one that

have offered comprehensive immigration reform. and in the last ten years, it has been republicans, the ones that have completely shut the door on it. in 2013, it was john boehner that famously told barack obama i am not going to bring this up on the floor because i cannot have this pass with majority democratic votes. in 2017, if you all remember, donald trump had the opportunity to be a transformational president on comprehensive immigration reform. he was looking at a deal where he would legalize millions of undocumented immigrants that were here in exchange for billions, billions, 25 billion to be exact that chuck schumer offered him for that deal. then who got involved? you guys were talking about him earlier, stephen miller. and he said absolutely not. twice shut the door. it was republicans. democrats have always been at the table to get this done. and that's what we need do. >> and yet the narrative, as you well know, and maybe you have something to say about this,

democrats don't care about the border, vice president kamala harris, who was tasked with it, republicans paint her as being sort of asleep at the switch. what's gone wrong here? >> i think that immigration has become too valuable a wedge issue for both parties to actually solve it. there is not a reason we can't solve our immigration problems. but look, closed borders and kids in cages? that's not a policy solution, nor are sanctuary cities. that's not a policy solution either. instead both sides really use immigration to fearmonger, make people afraid, and it keeps the problems. what we saw is heartbreaking. you can't assault border cops? and it's heartbreaking that these people are fleeing awful circumstances and being thrown back into mexico. this is heartbreaking all around. >> i'm not sure -- i hear what you're saying about it being a very handy bogeyman for election years for sure. but how does it benefit democrats?

>> oh, because then they get to say the republicans are going to jail migrants, send them home. all the things republicans have done. but listen, the back and forth, it's very much to me like the gun debate. the back and forth of you're this, you're awful, you're a murderer, you're for this, you're for that, you want to break the constitution. it gets us nowhere. and i've seen, that because i've covered that for as longs as you have. i've seen this kind of argument happen over and over again. >> except for i would say we can't really both sides of this, because democrats, we're on the verge of doing this. they were looking at the republicans who were eight republicans in the senate that were ready to pass this in 2013, and they did. >> they did. they did. >> and some of those same ones are in congress right now, and they are like -- there is no way in hell we would do this day. >> right. >> so it's not both pear, s.e. in fact, democrats would love to solve this --

>> i'm not sidesing. but the democrats are throwing wrenches into comprehensive reform bills in order to make it impossible for republicans to sign off. fear is a thing too. that democrats have done. >> it wasn't an impossibility for republicans to sign on when john boehner said no. it was completely political. >> to get any kind of comprehensive immigration reform you're, not going to get the far left, you're not going to get the far right, and that's more than fine. >> our going to have to do a lot more money for border security, finish trump's wall perhaps and legalize the undocumented in this country and get a pathway to citizenship, but work visas. >> they want legal status. >> george w. bush tried to pass this and he got attacked from the right. >> that's right. >> so let's not forget that piece of this puzzle too. >> in sanctuary cities, by the way, has never for democrats been a solution. it has been something that has been necessary because immigrants have been attacked so horrifically in so many of these places that they had to come up with something so that there

would actually -- >> had they been temporary, there has been a long time to solve this. >> well, because sanctuary cities -- >> s.e. and they will -- >> that's exactly my point. >> they will exist until dish. >> hold on. >> we will live with these nonsolution solutions. >> i want to follow up with something you said, john. the wall. it's interesting to think about how you might have to finish trump's wall, because it's been demonized as you know by the democrats, who at one time actually decades ago thought that that might be a solution. >> well, democrats propose more money for border security for sure. but if you want to really pass great comprehensive immigration reform, you're going to have to give something to republicans that gives them cover. >> $25 billion in security. >> but -- >> that we were giving, but the symbolism of the wall is powerful to some folks, fine. the important thing is we need to stop demagoguing this issue and start dealing with it. >> exactly right. >> that's going to mean both sides are going to give and the far left and the far right aren't going to like it, and that's fine. >> don't you agree with s.e. for the republicans and also the

democrats it's too handy of an election wedge issue? >> it can't be. >> i have to say, alisyn, for democrats it's not. this is an issue that is personal to me. as an immigrant, i understand. i know these people that are desperate, and they're coming over, fleeing fascism by the way. >> they're fleeing maduro. absolutely right. >> all the people that republicans should want to embrace and come over here. and nurture. refugee status, asylum. but this is part, frankly of the ultra extremist maga faction of the republican party that has said absolutely no more immigrants or migrants. >> it's a culture war now. >> god bless people fleeing maduro's regime, ortega's regime. if you're coming here for refugee status, don't attack the border patrol with a foreign flag, for god's sake. it's ridiculous. >> okay, laura?

>> it's pretty incredible to think about where you are, alisyn and the conversation. i'm sitting here and thinking about these notions. immigration, this is such a lightning rod conversation and one in which i think will be the evergreen conversation in the ballot box. in fact, jim jordan, the congressman from ohio was talking about this. i asked him the question what if republicans are the ones to get the majority? what's the plan to address these issues? >> great question. >> here is his response. >> so how do you intend as republicans if you're a majority to -- you call it a totally open border, which you have to agree, it is a hyperbole. but how do you intend to curb illegal immigration? >> what would you call 2.3 million people who come into our country, the half a million, quote, known gotaways is the term used by homeland security. and then all the people we don't know about? what would you call that if that's not open? how is that not going from a secure border to no boarder.

>> we actually a secure border, yet he'll sit in front of our committee and say the border is secure. you want to laugh at the guy. the border is secure and you can't answer a question about people on the terrorist watch list? the answer is to go back to the policies that were working. but the left can't do that because no, no, no, those were trump policy, those were conservative policies, those were common sense policies that the country actually wanted. so the left can't go back to that. and that's why we're, again, in this ridiculous situation. >> alisyn, for anyone who tell dwlus the trump shadow is not still looming on these issues, it's always a notion of what aboutism and what's happening. this is the conversation people are really having about open borders, about who was able to curb it best, about the crisis or the noncrisis. this is what people are talking about. >> as our panel was just noting, congressman jim jordan is a little slippery.

you had a great question for him. and everybody was all ears, laura. and he says let's go back to the policies. but he doesn't spell out what those policies were. >> kids in cages? is that what he wants to go back to? >> right. >> but, exactly. first of all, you need comprehensive immigration reform to get this done. ironically, part of the thing that the biden team has reluctantly, title 42 has -- that has led to a high degree of recidivism in crossing the border, because people are not processed. so actually, it's part of the trump policies that are currently in place that are leading to the recidivist crossing the border, just realtime. >> i want my panel to weigh, in because we are champing at the bit over here. we want in. we want in. we're coming back after a quick break. i know what's coming right now. we're going to talk about this our panel as well. and by the way, president obama was also speaking. we're going talk a little bit what he had to say as well, on the other side of a break,

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you know, when i had a test in math and sometimes i didn't study hard enough, i might have stayed up too late the night before. and it would be nice if you could just write down 8 for every answer. you just had the same answer over and over again. except you know what? that's the wrong answer. and the republican policies, they're not going to help you. but that's why democrats

actually had plans to take on drug companies to lower prices, to get the oil industry to clean up its act, to pass laws to make housing more affordable, to make sure big corporations are creating jobs in nevada instead of overseas. they've got a plan. that's the choice in this election. that's what these is about. >> margaret, david and kirsten powers are back. that is the choice many are presenting those who have an opportunity to plan and those who have a chance to criticize. when you look at this, is this what you're seeing as a choice for the american people? >> well, you know, i look at that, i look at obama out there, and the person i feel most sorry for is joe biden, because he fails -- he pales by comparison. the fact that biden is not there. obama is. it tells you a little bit more about the white house and how

this white house is thinking and what its internal polls look like. you know, i come back to obama, and i got to say, he is a likable guy. i see him on screen and i want to go have a beer with him until he starts attacking republicans, and then i start backing off. he is an effective communicatco. and i think he highlights all those challenges that biden and the biden white house are dealing with. >> is it criticism justified of the republicans, in failure and absence of a plan? >> i think the republicans have been very, very good at fearmongering, right, about saying here are the things that are wrong. and a lot of the things are legitimately wrong. some of them they're exaggerating, but they are focusing on things that are scaring people. but obama is right. they're not telling you that they're going to do anything different. it's not like they're going to solve that problem. they're basically pinning every problem in the world on joe biden, whether it's his fault or not, right? you can't really blame joe biden

for inflation, right? it's not something that just happened because of something joe biden did. it happened for a lot of different reasons. he is the president. he'll be held accountable for it. but i think what democrats are starting to argue and that i think obama is good at arguing but what are republicans going to do about it? because that's not really what they talk about. they just attack democrats. >> but let's take a quick time 80 here because democrats control the white house, the senate, and the house. they drove all the inflation driving legislation through over the last two years. >> well, that's debatable. >> it's not debatable. >> but that's not -- if you were to go back and look at what economist says caused inflation, it was not just a bill that was passed by democrats. >> you can ask larry summers. >> he wouldn't say one bill is responsible. other things contributed like supply chain issues, the fact that we had a global pandemic and all those other things. there is plenty of criticism to go around. but what i'm saying is it's not

something that if the republicans were there, that they would be able to snap their fingers and fix. >> i think the point you're probably going to make too, the point of the midterms or the point of talking points is to be reductive. the idea to condense and synthesize in a way that is evoking an evisceral reaction. >> yeah. >> and that's part of what is happening. >> the midterms are a test for the party in power. a and the democrats by the thinnest of margins are the party in power through a global pandemic that has driven malaise and major entrenched economic problems. and all of those right now were overpowering what democrats were hoping could be a debate about women's rights or reproductive rights or democracy or any of these other things. every time you fill up the gas pump, you're faced with the implications of this. every time you pay your grocery bills, you're faced with the implications of this. and whether or not it's democrats' fault or whether or not it would have happened to a republican president and a

marginally led republican congress doesn't matter. because right now it's a referendum on the party in power. so that's where we are. but i think when you are -- when you're making the closing arguments for the democratic party, you're trying to do two things. and one is you're trying to convince persuadable voters that they should care more about certain issues and less about other issues. and you're also trying to turn out your base. you're trying to turn out people who may believe very strongly in the democrats' case that the democrats are the better representatives of them, but may feel deflated, unenthusiastic. they feel that it's already over. and so it's two different groups you're trying to turn out. obama, to your point, a very effective communicator. >> i want to hear him one more time here, because he actually is speaking. i appreciate the civility of this conversation. he actually addresses the idea of the rhetoric. and it's not what's happening at this table. >> then you've got this erosion of just basic civility.

and democratic norms. you've got politicians who instead of wanting to bring people together do their best to stir up division and make us angry and afraid of one another. all for their own advantage. and all of this gets amped up. it gets hyped up. 24/7. on social media, because they find it more profitable to stir up controversy and conflict than to lift up the truth and facts. >> this idea divisive rhetoric and what's happening there is a lot of truth to the idea that there is something. there is some form of an appetite for the rhetoric. and it's being exploited. who, though, the question that the polls, who is to blame for that incitement? >> everyone. everyone is to blame for that incitement. i don't know about you, but when i surf on social media, i have

to check myself because i'm always looking for things that reinforce my own views, right? and then we all get into that feedback loop. and the next thing we all think our next-door neighbor is the anti-christ. at the end of the day, it's a little bit hard to swallow that the white house has clean hands here when you look at what was it, two months ago joe biden marched out in front of that big red backdrop and was basically beating the is not out of maga republicans. for a guy that campaigned as being the great uniter, it's a little hard to swallow. >> what do you think? >> i have to say that i think joe biden as far as politicians go ranks pretty high on the civility test. he is somebody who does speak kindly about people of the other party. it's something he ran on. i think in order to unite a country you have to have people who want to unite. and i'm note sure that there is really people who are buying what he is selling. and criticizeding maga republicans is not criticizing

all republicans. i mean, there are lots of republicans who don't necessarily agree with that. and i think there are some highly problematic things that have happened. i think -- i think that donald trump, i guess you would disagree with me, has played an outsized role in kind of creating this more divisive environment in the way he spoke as president, and sort of -- and there are a lot of people that follow his lead. but i also think you're right that we're all responsible for what we do. and we don't -- we can't use that as an excuse. we can't say because somebody does something, it's okay for us to behave that way. >> i've been wondering to see, alisyn, what the former president had to say about this brutal vicious attack on speaker of the house nancy pelosi's husband. he weighed in tonight speaking about the rhetoric and the consequences. listen to this. >> a friend of mine, mr. paul pelosi was attacked viciously.

somebody broke into his home looking for his wife, nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house. and thankfully i spoke to paul a couple of days ago, and he is going to be okay. but even as investigators do their job, find out exactly what motivated this person, one thing is clear. this increasing habit of demon demonizing political opponents creates a dangerous climate. and elected officials who do not explicitly reject or participate in over-the-top rhetoric, if that's what they're doing instead, if they just ignore or make light of that kind of violence, or if they encourage

their supporters to stand outside voting places armed with guns and dressed in tactical gear, if that's the environment that we create, more people are going to get hurt. >> alisyn, obviously it bore repeating. he mentioned it on friday. talking about it again today, because we know this is a perpetual notion, unfortunately, the idea of the consequences of this rhetoric. >> and i also heard him say something interesting there. he said "we." he said "we" a lot." i think that's a device that you use when you're trying to unite. >> right. >> as opposed to saying they, they, they, they always do this. he was saying if that's the climate we're creating. and so i think even if that little way, there is a way to not demonize and put somebody into that other category. >> the great orator many say for those reason. those were devices to acknowledge the all in together. but will it actually be appreciated by the electorate in the end game?

how many days now, alisyn? seven days away. >> still. >> all right. now i think you're really going to enjoy this next segment, because i know it is something you and i have bonded over. >> yep. >> i think every human being has some frustration, and we're about to talk about it. because from grocery stores to pharmacies to airports, we're all doing our own checkout. why? whatever happened to humans? i miss humans. our panel has a lotto say about this, next. when we started selling my health products online our shipping process was painfully slow. then we found shipstation. now we're shipping out orders 5 times faster and we're saving a ton. go to shipstation.com /tv and get 2 months free.

have you gone into a supermarket or drug store lately, laura? >> yep. >> if so, you have probably been asked to scan your own items at a self checkout. >> yep. >> if you're like me, that makes you want to run screaming out of the store. >> well, how about when that machine actually stops letting you scan your items and you have to call someone over to help you. does that also make you want to scream? that happened to me this morning. >> indeed it does. and what about when you're checking your bags at an airport? wouldn't it help to talk to a human? to put it plainly? i miss human. >> i've got that little sticker stuck on my closing before getting on a flight. if all of this sounds like you out there, guess what? you're not alone. "washington post" columnist rick riley is out with a piece today titled "dear grocery store owners, i don't work for you."

why do i have to ring up my own groceries? why do i have to get yelled at by the robo nagger, please put the item in the bagging area. hey, i'm trying, but the bagging area isn't big enough to fit a roll of life savers. i want to bring back john avlon who has had this experience. i was at a mcdonald's last week, and i had to ring up my own order on this keyboard. first of all, this is fast food. it doubled the time of me spending the time. at mcdonald's. >> we're not trained in. >> i'm not trained either. >> why is this concept never anywhere like useful, like the dmv? i'd love to check myself out at the dmv, or someone fun, like the bar? can i get behind there and make it myself? >> great idea. >> that would actually be okay. >> helpful. >> furthermore, maria? >> i'm not trying to steal stuff. but i am stealing stuff inadvertently because when i don't know if this thing is

working, if it's actually registering it. and i'm just putting it in my bag and waltzing out. >> exactly. and then the robo nagger, is that what you called it? it's not only please put the item in the bagging area. double-check the item. you're right. maybe it's in there. maybe it's not. how many bags are you using? you gave me tiny bags. maybe zero. >> i'm sure they're losing money on this. >> it's certainly done in the name of efficiency and decreasing the number of people they have to employ. but it's not more efficient for the customer rick riley, this is a great humor column. >> it's what we were all thinking. >> i don't work at grocery stores. apparently i work at american airlines too. cvs, target, i'm checking myself out more than a seventh grade girl on tiktok. that's a good line. >> i wonder if it's generational, because my kids love it. >> they do love it? that's a big word for this. >> in fact, when i'm in the middle of it trying to figure it out, they're like mama, they

grab it and they do it. >> how dare they! >> i know. >> i'm trying to bring humans back. that's what i want. >> all right. it's time for all of you to sound off on this. we'll read your tweets, next.

all right. time to sound off. let's see what you're saying out there tonight. this one on self checkouts from paul white. shouldn't we get an employee discount for self checkouts? >> yes, yes. this one also on the same thing, the self-checkout lines take longer because nobody knows what to do. i agree with you. i miss humans. >> there you go. >> thank you. >> here we go, a very popular from sarah manson. i don't use self-checkouts.

these machines replace cashiers who don't make much money as it is. i'd rather from v a human cashier bag my purchase and get paid to do so. >> me too. we're all in agreement. i hope that cvs and, you know, walgreens and albertsons is listening. everybody is unanimous. we want to deal with human beings. >> until we don't. >> of course. >> you end noe where to find us, alisyn camerota and laura b. coates. >> thanks for watching, everyone. >> our coverage continues. who'. mucinex instasoothe. works in seconds, lasts for hours.

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