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warning signs of the kremlin considering the use of a tactical nuclear weapon. u.s. officials believe senior russian generals have discussed how and when to deploy one. there is debate on how seriously to take this intelligence. is it further sign of russian desperation and cause for real concern? or are these discussions being taken out of context? on cnn earlier tonight, top white house security official john kirby reacted to the latest u.s. intelligence report. >> there's lots of levels of concern, of heightened concern, about what's going on in ukraine right now that gives us cause to continue to closely monitor as best we can russia's nuclear capabilities. >> now the intelligence report says that vladimir putin was not part of these talks. but putin has publicly dangled the prospect of using a nuclear device for months. today russia's ministry of foreign affairs put out a
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statement perhaps to try to ease fears that remains kremlin policy to only use nuclear arms in a defensive response declaring, quote, a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought. abide by a deal to allow vital grain exports from ukraine safe passage in the black sea, which would be a welcomed reversal to those who feared a global hunger crisis. ukraine and russia account for nearly a third of the world's wheat exports. here's the u.s. ambassador to the united nations on cnn this morning. >> clearly russia was finally convinced that they needed to continue this. they can't stand in the way of feeding the entire world. >> but putin is also threatening to pull out of that deal, again, if he feels ukraine uses access to the black sea for any military purposes. now, these announcements would be welcomed if you take the kremlin at its word. but we have all witnessed so
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many moments where the kremlin says one thing and does the exact opposite, whether insisting they would never invade ukraine, or they will allow safe passage for refugees and won't harm them at all, or promising to allow wheat exports and going back on that pledge. we're not confident that will be the case. what we are confident about is the continued russian atrocities we're seeing on the ground in ukraine. tonight cnn's clarissa ward is going to bring you new evidence of these horrors, as she follows investigators who are tasked with looking for cases of rape and other sexual violence inside kherson, a region recently freed from russian occupation. it sadly reinforces what a united nations independent team found, rape and torture. sometimes the victims were children, some as young as four. and at times families of the victims were forced to watch. the head of the human rights
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organization warns that many of these crimes will surely go unpunished, no accountability. but here in the u.s., the justice department created a new division in june to investigate these russian atrocities, these war crimes. and there's now a bipartisan push to change u.s. laws so that it will be easier to prosecute russians for these horrific deeds in u.s. courts should these russians ever enter the united states. now, it's hard to believe, but there are some in russia who actually argue that putin has not been brutal enough. and we want to shine a light tonight on a mercenary army that is emerging from the shadows. let me introduce you to -- a russian oligarch best known as putin's chef, and for good reason. his restaurants and catering company and hosted dinners attended by putin and other world leaders. but he is also known for serving up bodies.
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just a few weeks ago, pri goes yan admitted to finding the wagner group in 2014. you might have heard whispers about wagner. it used to be a private mercenary group that operated in the shadows. but in recent years, cnn has tracked wagner operatives in ukraine, mozambique, msyria. >> this is a straightforward b bargain. they provide the weapons and in return they get access to the country's natural resources. and in the process hope to reassert themselves as a major player in this region. >> the wagner group has a gruesome reputation and is linked to any number of human rights abuses including tortures and beheadings. top u.s. officials have consistently warned about the wagner group's brutal tactics.
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>> poor governance, exclusion and corruption, inherent weak democracies makes them -- foreign interference. that includes the kremlin-backed wagner group which exploits instability to commit abuses with impunity. >> russia's war on ukraine has thrust wagner into the spotlight. ukrainian officials estimate at least 5,000 wagner mercenaries are fighting alongside russian forces in ukraine. where are they finding so many soldiers? well a cnn investigation found that wagner is recruiting murderers and drug dealers from prisons with a promise that if they survive the war in ukraine, they will be granted shorter sentences or even amnesty. now, these aren't former soldiers who happen to be imprisoned. they are men who are hardened, brutal criminals. this is what one prisoner told cnn's nick paton walsh.
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>> if it's real, then i am all for it. it's either be imprisoned for nine years or get out in six months if you are lucky. but that's if you are lucky. >> pronegotiation himself recently did something that would have once seemed unfathomable. according to officials, he directly confronted vladimir putin about his belief that russian generals are mismanaging the war in ukraine and that more aggressive tactics, more aggressive tactics, need to be used. >> i want to bring in cnn's chief international correspondent clarissa ward in kyiv, ukraine. clarissa, he has really used the chaos of this war as a way to bolster his own standing and power within russia. >> reporter: that's right. i mean, no one could have predicted, jake, that we would be seeing this moment now. how much has changed?
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just a year ago, wagner didn't officially even exist. now you see ewe genny coming out criticizing the ministry of defense, recruiting prisoners, openly talking about his role in the so-called troll factory back in the 2016 election. so, this is a very different -- than anyone is used to seeing. and i think there is a lot of anxiety. is this a serious power play? is he becoming more powerful? and what does that mean going forward in terms of the brutal tactics you just aloose dated in your monologue there. what does that mean going forward in terms of will these become more officially accepted standards of russian comportment on the battlefield.
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>> i don't know if it's becoming more powerful or more shameless, but something's changing. beyond the intrigue, what matters here is how the influence of someone like this will be felt by the innocent, suffering people of ukraine. >> reporter: well, the ukrainians are used to wagner in a sense, if one can say that. they have been dealing with this group since back in 2014. wagner are implicated in a number of war crimes here. german intelligence has said that they believe they were involved in the killings of civilians in bucha, that suburb of kyiv. obviously no one can forget those sorts of images. and they are heavily involved in the fighting that is taking place in eastern ukraine right now. we have seen, interestingly, a group of ukrainians coming together in the uk and hiring a law firm to try to push for wagner to be prescribed as a terrorist organization and for there to be much heavier checks
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and balances in terms of their funding. now, it's not clear that that would have any real impact on the operations of the group because there's no indication they have any funding coming out of the united kingdom. but it does potentially open the way for some kind of accountability because what, jake, they have been able to do for so long is operate in the shadows because they don't officially exist. because in the russian constitution, a private mercenary group is not even a legal and valid organization. so, him openly talking about the fact that he is the head of wagner and that they are directly implicated in these things could potentially open some sort of a route for increased accountability, jake. >> clarissa, stay with us. we're going to bring your special look, this heartbreaking investigation you just did, firsthand in southern ukraine. clarissa went door-to-door with investigators in a region where the russians were recently forced out.
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as fears continue to grow throughout the globe of russians potentially deploying a nuclear weapon, there are crimes happening right now on the ground in ukraine committed by the russians that are not hypothetical. in the village of kherson, russian occupation may be over, but the wounds inflicted by russian soldiers on innocent ukrainian civilians could last forever. cnn's clarissa ward joins a team of ukrainian investigators who are going door to door looking for evidence of russian war crimes, specifically cases of rape and other acts of sexual violence. >> reporter: day after day, they go house to house, a team of investigators dispatched from the capital. these men are tasked with looking for cases of sexual
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violence. no one was assaulted in this village, these women tell them, but every home has suffered. when russian forces were pushed out of this area earlier this month, they left a trail of misery behind them. down the road, an elderly woman inconsolable, asked for help. i don't know where to sleep now. there are no windows or doors, she tells the policemen. [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: 71-year-old vera's son was injured while fighting on the front lines. she is alone and afraid. she wants to invite us in to see how she's living. this is what remains of her home. only her precious icons are untouched. [ speaking non-english ]
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oh, my god, oh, my god's mother, she says, please keep my son alive and let me see him again. in town after town throughout the kherson region, this is what victory looks like, and it is grim. almost every house has been destroyed by heavy fighting and the people scarred by months of russian occupation. in the next village, the investigators talked to 56-year-old tatiana. we have agreed not to name the village or show her face to protect her identity. she takes us to her brother's house, where she says she was raped by a russian soldier on august 26th. [ speaking non-english ] >> translator: he pinned me against the wardrobe and groped me. he ripped by clothes off, and i was caught in his grip. it was very hard and painful for me. i was crying, begging him to
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stop, but with no success. >> reporter: and did he say anything when it was over? >> translator: do not tell anyone anything or it will be worse. that's everything he told me. and then he left. it's very hard for me. >> reporter: did you tell your husband what had happened? >> translator: i didn't tell my husband right away, but i told my cousin and my husband overheard. he said, you should have told me the truth, but you kept silent. i was very ashamed, very. >> reporter: the shame is on him. >> translator: he's probably not
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shamed if he's still alive. i wish that he and all his kin were dead. >> reporter: it's coming to the end of a long and emotional day. the men visit the last village on their list. tomorrow, they will head back to kyiv to submit their findings. they've recorded six allegations of rape in their two weeks here. it must be a hard job. >> translator: it is psychologically difficult. you understand every victim is so distressed. but this is important work. ro >> reporter: most cases tharks say, go unreported, like so many of the horrors that took place under russian occupation here, they remain hidden in the dark. now the russian ministry of defense has repeatedly denied any sort of systematic claims of
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rape that have been going on with their soldiers on the ground. one interesting we found, jake, when we asked tatiana what she did after the rape, whether she spoke to anyone about it, she did say she went to the russian commander in the town three days after it happened and reported the officer who had raped her. and she said that his response was to come and see her a couple of days later and say that he had punched the man in question in the jaw and would she like to have him shot, so which she replied to him, i would like to see all of you shot, jake. >> you said, clarissa, that these investigators that you're traveling with, that they're headed back to kyiv to report their findings, six instances of rape. is there any hope anyone will actually be held accountable? >> reporter: i mean, there's no question, jake, this is a long, uphill battle, and it's going to take a lot of time. part of the challenge that they face is that it's quite
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difficult often to identify these russian soldiers to get their full names. tatiana was able to do that, but there are so many other cases where people don't either know the full name or they don't want to talk about it. but the way the ukrainian authorities see this and the police and the prosecutors office who are working towards, you know, ultimately towards getting some accountability is that they have to start building a case. you have to start from somewhere. so, they'll come back here to kyiv or they're now back here in kyiv. they will put together what they have, and they will see whether they can start initiating any criminal proceedings. in more than 40 cases of sexual violence at the hands of russian forces across the country and areas that have been occupied, they have already initiated criminal proceedings. but as i said before, jake, you know, this is a long slog, and it's not going to happen overnight. but it is still so important to get the details, to document it, with the hopes that one day there will be justice for these
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women. >> this village has been through so many horrible atrocities. do they hope that the worst is behind them? is there any possibility that that's it? or are they afraid that the russians will return? >> reporter: i mean, i think that, you know, what's so tragic when you spend time in these villages and you're sort of hoping that people will be kind of jubilant that ukrainian forces have been able to take some of this territory back. but the reality is they're now returning to their homes because many of them obviously had left to find their lives had been completely shattered, shake. you look at that woman in her 70s sleeping on a bed with a hole in the roof and absolute carnage all around her and debris and no heat and no electricity and no water and no basic services. and you know, we were left with the feeling of, like, how is she going to survive? how can she possibly actually continue to live here? and i think for so many people,
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surviving is just the first challenge. and now it's sort of trying to even fathom how you rebuild when a war is still raging, jake. >> yeah. and the russians continue to destroy infrastructure, and the winter is coming. clarissa ward in ukraine. thank you for that pow rful report. appreciate it. as head of the democratic congressional committee, my next guest's job is to help democrats protect their house majority. things aren't looking so good for them six days out. even he's at risk of losing his seat in a blue district in new york. so, why does congressman sean patrick maloney think he's in the position he's in now. and why is his party? also ahead, jimmy kimmel is here for a one-on-one you don't want to miss. stay with us. it's a delicious night on..... for everyone at the table. panera. only $1 delivery fee on our app. [ coughing/sneezing ] dude, you coming? alka-seltzer plus powermax gels
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american democracy is under attack because the defeated former president of the united states refuses to accept the results of the 2020 election. it's estimated that there are more than 300 election deniers on the ballot all across america this year. make no mistake democracy is on the ballot for all of us. >> president biden issuing this warning near the u.s. capitol this evening. biden hoping that voters will cast their ballots with defending democracy in mind. the reality is, with six days to
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go, that's not where voters' heads seem to be. the latest cnn polling showing that the economy and inflation far outrank any other issue in voters' minds. 51% say it's a top issue. abortion comes in second at 15%. for people voting on the economy, the numbers show people trust republicans more. the majority of republicans favoring republicans to take the house. the shifting winds mean the congressman in charge of protecting the house is at risk of losing his own district. that man is congressman shawn patrick maloney of new york. thanks so much for joining us. back in 2020, president biden won your district, the hudson valley area of new york, by ten percentage points. but your constituents seem to express concerns not just about democratic races nationwide but your own seat in deep blue new york. how did the campaign arm you
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oversee get into this position where you're defending so many seats that i would think would be strong democratic districts? >> well, let's calibrate that a little bit. we've always had competitive seats in the hudson valley. i had to beat a republican to come to congress. it's not a surprise to me that this is a competitive part of the world. so, we're going to do what we always do, go out and make our case based on a record of getting real results. and we've always known this was going to be a competitive cycle. my pgoodness, it's the first midterm of a new presidency. but we're going to go out and we're going to win these seats and we're going to hold this majority because there's a lot at stake. >> i don't know anyone who thinks you're going to hold the majority, with all due respect. i'm seeing reports and hearing from democratic pollsters that there's going to be -- republicans are going to pick up at least 25 seats. >> well, let's see what happens. we're sitting here two years ago, you would have said democrats would pick up 25 seats and the republicans won 13.
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that was the last time the conventional wisdom was spectacularly wrong. and of course everybody got it wrong on 2016's results as well. so, i think we could all be a little bit humbled. we're five days out. what i can tell you is our front liners have a record of lowering gas and grocery prices, giving people cheaper health care, cheaper housing, making street safer, supporting good policing, and protecting your freedoms, whether we're talking about your reproductive freedoms or voting rights. and that record is keeping them very much in the fight and in the toughest races right now you see the republicans spending a fortune. if it's so lop sided, why are they spending in the races that should be easiest for them, they have not close d out this election. >> it seems like democrats are doing defense. you've got biden going to --
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these are parts of the country where democrats normally have comfortable leads. let's focus on your race right now. over the last week, the dccc spent big to defend you, more than $600,000 for on-air ads. how worried are you about your chances on tuesday? >> right. well, spent big. so, $600,000, let's remember, republican groups have spent 10 million trying to beat me. so, of course we're going to defend the seat. and what i'm telling you is i'm going to win this race, and republicans are going wish they had that $10 million back to go use it in races they've won. again, i've got to go out and earn it two years at a time. it's always been a kef seat for me. that's nothing new. and i don't know why anybody's surprised that we have to play a little defense in the first midterm of a new presidency with a war in europe and all the
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damage done by the trump years and the pandemic. we haven't fixed all the problems yet. what the difference is that we've got a plan for your future, and the other team has a employ and a trick to try to win power for themselves. and if you can tell me what their plans are for the future, i would sure love to hear them. >> i have to ask you about something you said earlier this week. let's roll that sound bite. >> let's not pretend for a minute that both sides have the same amount of accountability for the loss of confidence in our e lebss. one side has been out there for a couple of years now doing everything they can to pretend joe biden didn't win fair and square. >> the thing is, democrats writ large have spent $53 million supporting far right candidates, election deniers in the primaries, including the dccc. by amplifying these election deniers, aren't you undermining
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democracy. >> oh, my god. jake, let's be clear. what that question you just played was about was who's questioning the outcome of elections. and that started with donald trump. and we all know it. let's be clear, that $53 million, it's $400,000 at the dccc in one race, one, where we ran a true general election ad two weeks early. calling john gibbs an extremist who's too conservative. >> it's a booster. >> and hillary is going to -- excuse me -- beat him like a drum. let's be clear. not one dime was spent from the dccc supporting any republican. it was spent criticizing a republican for being too extreme, and it is going to result in a pro-choice strong candidate named hillary skull ton winning that race. >> come on, you guys were boosting john gibbs, an election denier, a maga republican so he
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would beat congressman peter meijer, who voted to impeach donald trump after the capital attacks. you thought gibbs would be easier for your democratic candidate to beat, so you boosted him. that's -- that's the only reason he won that race. >> well, you're using that word boost, kind of cute. other people say it kind of funding their campaigns iechlts ridiculous. we're attacking them. but we're absolutely right, we thought he was an easier candidate and he has proven to be because he's a nut and he's too conservative for western michigan. and hillary skoel ton is getting ready to beat him. that is my focus is making sure we bring common sense democrats to congress who are going to move our country forward. and let's be clear, again, $400,000 out of a $340 million budget. if you want to warm up these leftovers, we can keep going. but right now we have five or six days until we have an election, and that's where my focus is. and we're going to win that seat in michigan 3. >> that $400,000 for john gibbs
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did boost him and he beat congressman peter meijer, peter meijer who did something braver than anything i've seen in terms of most members of congress, in terms of bucking his party. when people like you say, where are all the good republicans, you helped defeat one of them. >> jake, let's be clear, if your point is that i should in some sort of exercise of defeatism stop trying to beat republicans in vulnerable seats who are going to vote for kevin mccarthy and put jim jordan at the head of the judiciary committee where they're going to pass a national ban on abortion, give you two years of hunter biden and nothing else, if your point is to roll over and pull punches and make somebody in the media feel better because we hope that some of these democrats will be nice to us, how about we elect some people who are actually good on issues like choice or gun safety or on supporting leaders who won't support an insurrection. and peter meijer was going to
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vote for the majority that on january 6th voted to set aside the election. that's a district that joe biden won with 56% of the vote, and we're going to win it. and i have said -- and i mean it -- there are difficult, moral, and philosophical questions in politics. you better believe it. let's be really clear. this is $400,000 in a budget of $300 million, one race, one, in the entire cycle where we ran a general election ad that was perfectly true calling the guy an extremist. and hillary is going to win. that's what we're talking about. >> congressman maloney, thank you so much. i really appreciate it. have a good rest of your week. i know you're going to be busy. >> thank you very much. and when we return, jimmy kimmel's here, the jimmy kimmel. trust me, you'll want to stick around to hear him rift on lawmakers and ye, kanye west, that's next.
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so, there's been a lot said about twitter's new owner, billionaire elon musk, especially after mr. musk tweeted out a link to a deranged right wing website to further the smearing of paul pelosi, the speaker's husband, whom a deranged man attacked with a hammer. the website reported in 2016 that hillary clinton had died
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and that a body double would debate donald trump. the host of jimmy kimmel live on abc tweeted, after musk did this, it has been interesting over the years to watch you blossom from the electric car guy into a fully formed piece of shit. and jimmy kimmel joins me now. jimmy, good to see you. interest tweet, strong words. and it does play right into this national conversation we've been having about free speech. how do you see those issues, given free speech on one hand and yet the dangerous spread of misinformation and hateful rhetoric that's inciting some of these attacks on the other? >> well, first of all, jake, i love hearing you curse. it's one of my favorite things. i know it only happens once every -- i only quote people cursing. i never curse on my own. it's only within quotations. the trump era gave me a lot of opportunities to do that, by the way. >> yeah.
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yeah. no, i like it. it's like cnn after dark you kn know. you know, i have to say when i have the voice of decency we've got a problem because the idea that this old man, an 82-year-old man, has been attacked in his bed in his home by a person who obviously has some problems and our first reaction isn't, oh, my goodness. even if they're lying, even if they're pretending to have concern, how can the reaction possibly be -- how can we move so quickly to smearing these people to try to create some -- you know by the way now that the police report is out, i haven't exactly seen elon musk or donald trump or donny jr. correcting them and saying, oh, my goodness, now that we read the facts of this story, certainly we feel terrible that we spread these vicious lies around. and we retract them and apologize to the pelosi family.
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no, you'll never see that because that's not how it works. everybody is a target all the time now. >> and it's not just the smears that they put out about paul pelosi, these deranged conspiracy theories. a lot of these folks, right wing maga folks, tried to make jokes at paul pelosi's expense, one that paul pelosi had a relationship with his attacker. you are not afraid of taking risks in comedy. where's the line? i personally found those jokes by john jr. and others just horrible and not even remotely funny. >> the line is when don jr. tells a joke. when don jr. tells a joke, the line has been crossed because he's not a funny person. i don't know what's going on in don's life, but it seems like an awful lot of projection going on there to me. and i just -- you know, i don't know. the line, i guess, is when an
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82-year-old man gets hit in the head with a hammer. >> that's a good line. this also comes at the same time that kanye west, now known as ye, who i know you've interviewed in the past, he said he could tell you anything he wanted anti-semitic and adidas couldn't drop him. adidas did drop him. on the other hand, kyrie irving is out there flirting with anti-semitism, continues to play. how do you think celebrities who spew bigotry, people who have platforms, should be treated? what kind of consequences should there be? >> i just, you know, it makes me wonder who told them this stuff? how did this get into their heads in the first place? i mean, on one side, you could say, maybe we shouldn't take anything that these guys say seriously. i mean, if you see someone ranting and raving on the street corner, you're not necessarily holding them accountable for their words. but on the other hand, these are very specific -- i mean, they've
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singled out religious group and decided that all the evils of the world are somehow attached to that group. it's beyond offensive. it's actually nonsensical. and i don't think kanye west is a stupid person, and i don't think kyrie irving -- i mean, kyrie irving does think the world is flat, so that should be taken into consideration. >> he went to duke though. he's pretty smart. >> well, i mean, he went to duke. would he have gone to duke had he not been a great basketball player? that's for the admissions people at duke. but might be time to take his diploma back. >> so, yet at the same time that we're talking about this, you and i have talked about this privately, this era of so-called cancel culture, where careers get ruined because somebody says something wrong or makes a mistake. obviously if they commit a crime, that's a separate thing. but i think -- and i think you would agree with me -- that
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there does need to be room for people to apologize, as long as it's a sincere apology. i saw this report today about this young sports reporter in casey funderburg. she objected to some racism she saw as a sports reporter and then passt racist tweets she ha made when she was a teenager and she was fired to. me, that seems like, look, if she's -- i don't have a -- people -- there needs to be space for people to apologize in this world. >> yeah, i mean, if there isn't, then where do we go? listen, obviously i've been involved the in a -- i've said a million stupid things, and i would hope that people would decide whether an apology is sincere. when an apology isn't even offered, that's -- listen, these people are supposed to be christians. i am a catholic. i grew up in the church. what i was taught was that if
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you do something wrong, you ask for forgiveness and you are forgiven for these things. the idea that that would be anything other than that, that these people who are allegedly following the teachings of jesus would behave in this way, it just doesn't make any sense at all. and i don't -- i just can't understand how that works for so many people, so many americans. >> it's not just religious -- it's not just religious people on the right though, right? there are progressives on the left that can be pretty tough about this. >> no, yes. absolutely. just as if not more so. but i do think that there's more openness to forgiveness from that particular side. but with that said, people do like piling on. they love it. makes them feel like they're a better person. there's certainly a lot of that going on. and i tell you what, i've
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noticed -- this is just my own personal experience. i noticed that in the three days that elon musk has been running this twitter that it has gotten crazier and nastier. i mean, you know, i'm walking in an als walk in las vegas on sunday on my birthday, november 13th -- >> happy birthday. >> -- and i posted about it -- thank you -- and i just got an avalanche of hate. hate. and it's just like, well, you can't even -- you can't do anything anymore without being attacked. it's absolutely crazy. >> no. i agree. the midterm elections are approaching. i have to say, whatever you feel about republicans taking back the house, which seems likely, perhaps as a comedian you're looking forward to it? more prominence for people like mar marjorie taylor greene. she brings you information. she brings you fodder. >> no, i don't -- i'm not that desperate for material.
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i'm really not. i will tell you something also, i have a bone to pick with you. >> uh-oh. >> we watch you in my office every day before the show, and then you decide to all of a sudden you decide to slide into the night slot. this is when i'm taping the show. it's not convenient for me at all. so, i'm very glad to hear that you're moving back to 4:00, and i'd like to believe that you did it specifically for me. >> i did it because of my family and it was always just a short-term gig for -- >> but a little bit of me. >> -- the midterms. >> 40% for me. >> 40. i mean, 4? ate their kids halloween candy then record the sad reaction on video. you twisted man. we're going to be right back with that. stay with us.
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and we're i'm back with jimmy kimmel who takes a perverse pleasure in torturing america's children at this time of year, halloween. so one last thing.
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so tonight on your show i want to show a clip from this year's kid candy prank that you do every year. but let's show this. >> in the middle of the night and i went down stair and iate all your halloween candy. >> i thought you were on a diet. >> you know who told me to do it? jimmy kimmel. >> is he a bad guy? >> mm-hmm. >> so that was from last year's actually. so this is the meanest thing that -- i tell you this every year, it's the meanest thing in the world. you get these parents to tell their kids the candy's gone.
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you play these videos. the kid says i hope dad gets diarrhea that's one thing, but often they just weep. have you ever said i can't do this anymore, it's just too harsh? >> let me just tell you where i'm coming from, jake. first of all kids cry like 15 or 18 times a day, so it's not like when you make an adult cry and it happens once every eight months. and secondly when i was a kid why mom used to lay on the ground and pretend she was dead until we cried, okay? so the way i see it these kids are getting off easy. >> but that's sick. that's not a justification. that's a justification for you to be institutionalized but the sickness you -- anyway, i know you have a lot of fans who love it. >> america wants it. even when we stopped doing it, they kept doing it. so we gave in. >> jimmy kimmel, always good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, jake.
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