thanks so much for joining us tonight. you can follow me on facebook, instagram, and twitter @jaketapper. tomorrow tom cotton of arkansas will join us. tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern. our coverage continues now with luminous laura coates, and astro astrological alison camerota, i'm just riffing right now. >> i can see. >> astounding, alison. >> better. ia you knocked laura's out of the park. >> also the phils are getting clobbered right now so i'm not

jubilant. >> you're not jubilant, jake. i like that. >> nor jocular nor jaded. >> you see jocular when jimmy kimmel was cracking you up. that was great. >> he's funny. anyway, great to see you guys. have a great show. >> i'll get my luminous self over here. >> all right, keep it up, laura. good evening, everybody. i'm allison cam rata in new york. >> and i'm laura coates in washington, d.c. and this is "cnn tonight" on a night when the president of the united states lays out his closing arguments with the mid-terms just merely days away. he's warning that election deniers could lead the country down to what he calls a path to chaos, and he insists that democracy is indeed on the ballot. we're back to having an election where things that he's warning about may actually turn out to be true. so i wonder what happens if it does, alison? >> nothing good, laura. nothing good as we've seen already in the past. plus in these final days of the campaign herschel walker is going after barack obama.

>> some of you may not remember but herschel walker was a heck of a football player. i mean, some of you are too young to remember but in college he was amazing, one of the best running backs of all-time. but here's the question. does that make him the best person to represent you in the u.s. senate? >> why don't he go back to wherever he's from and get back in his million dollar mansion? >> go back to wherever he's from. we're going down that old birtherism road again? and why are these two fighting with each other or going after each other rather than herschel walker's actual challenger? we have a lot to talk about tonight. >> and by the way, alison, where he's from also included the white house. is that an endorsement by herschel walker for president obama to return at some point? >> interesting your interpretation. maybe that is the right

interpretation. all right, we'll dive into all that. so let's kick it off with georgia's lieutenant governor, jeff duncan, also cnn political commentator david swerdlick. great to have all of you. okay, so let's listen to president biden's closing argument where he is obviously very concerned about democracy, very concerned about an election denier. i mean, there are hundreds of them running, and one of them winning anything from governor to secretary of state. so let's listen to what he says about the path to chaos. >> as i stand here today there are candidates running for every level of office in america, for governor, congress, attorney general, secretary of state who won't commit, who will not commit to accepting the results of elections that they're running in. it's unprecedented. it's unlawful, and it's un-american.

>> so lieutenant governor, he's talking about the lies that threaten democracy, and he's talk about how to preserve democracy. is that a winning political argument? >> well, i know they want it to be, and i try to keep track of how many times he said democracy is on the ballot and i lost track of how many times. americans are thinking about the economy. it's racking up their businesses, community, gas prices, 401ks, it's on the top of their mind. >> but can't you argue without democracy none of that matters? >> absolutely. i spent the last two years of my life making that argument, but america is distracted with the kplae. and of all the things he spoke tonight he didn't mention the economy. >> by our count it was one time. he did mention the economy but he definitely hit democracy many, many more times. david, here the lieutenant governor is not wrong. here is a cnn poll from last week. most important issue in choosing

your congressional candidate. number one, economy inflation by a long shot, 51%. abortion they're 15 mersech voting elections which i guess is another word for democracy down at 9%. so why is president biden hitting that so hard? >> i agree with the lieutenant governor that this is not what people are focused on right now, but i think it could have been a good closing argument for vice president -- for president biden, excuse me, if democrats had focused back in late summer, early fall on their legislative wins -- semiconductors, guns, getting justice jackson confirmed, the burn pits legislation -- and not given that first democracy speech where he distracted everybody with the semifascist line that got their message all offtrack and focused on what they were

doing for people, come around a week before the election and close with this democracy argument. he said the best line of that last speech again tonight, which is you can't love your country only when you win. said it back then, said it now. that's the crux of the speech. but there's so much noise as you're saying at this point on so many other issues i'm not sure it breaks through. >> i listened to president biden tout his accomplishments a lot. when i was doing the 2:00 to 4:00 show, every single day we would blow up our show because he would have an unexpected press conference in front of a bridge to tout the infrastructure or to tout the semiconductors or. i mean all the time, but i hear you those messages didn't quite resonate like the semi-fascist ones. >> those weren't cutting through. and when you talk about the issues people care about right now he can't rely make a strong case about the economy right now because a lot of voters hold him responsible for what we're going through. so i think to your point,

allison, he's trying to appeal to our core values and saying if your vote doesn't matter, then nothing else will matter. and this was a very clear warning and acknowledgement by the president that he fears this mid-term election will be 2020 2.0 except more dangerous because election deniers have had two years to work on this. you have a number of states in close races. you have very high stakes, the balance of congress hangs in the balance. you have likely it's going to be days before we know what some of these races, what the outcomes will be because it takes time to count these mail-in ballots. there will be election deniers who are already laying the groundwork for saying there's fraud -- >> if they lose. >> if they lose. so we're seeing a lot of similarities from 2020 except this time around we may not have people marching on the u.s. capitol but marching at state capitols and marching at local election offices. this is the president saying we've seen this before, now we

have some foresight, so what are you going to do? >> standby. so it may not be politically winning as you heard the lieutenant governor say, however it is certainly on the president's mind as the, you know, most critical issue. >> you think about it as you articulated, the idea nothing really can get done unless democracy is functioning. you're not able to address the economy, address crime, address abortion, address a whole host of issues unless people feel represented. i think he was going in that direction. but let's ask my panel. cnn's political analyst, and republican strategist -- maybe i'm a glass half full sort of person today even though we're six days out. it sounds like if you're talk about you're president biden and talking about let's manage expectation, prepare for there to be election denial happening, democracy on the ballot, do you

think he's thinking the red wave is coming. in order to contest the ballot the maga republicans are losing in his mind. is this an optimistic spin to address the idea of voter enthusiasm and democracy on the ballot? what do you think? >> i think there's a couple things going on here. i think democrats are concerned what we're seeing is gop talking points about a red wave. we're seeing a lot of different polls. i think the american public is probably over polls at this point, but when you look at the turnout data there is enthusiasm. one of democrats concerns is let's let voters have their say, that's number one. number two, "the new york times" reported over a couple dozen of the lawyers who worked for donald trump's efforts in 2020 to overthrow the election and all sorts of different schemes in the states are right now working in a number of states in a number of campaigns on the republican side, so it was kind of a prestaging that sort of

says we've seen this before. we know what this is, don't let it stop you from voting. that's part of the democracy message. everybody's has a voice, everybody has a vote. but also be -- remember that it may take a little time. we're not going to necessarily have all the answers on election night, and that's okay. >> and part of this concern thinking about it is the way we count and tabulate, i mean there's not this -- it's always thought of you go to bed at night and someone's winning, you wake up in the morning and it's different. those wee small hours in the morning oftentimes can be the most politically vulnerable period for people to have trust in the system because it's a time people to pick up in the morning and say this is what it is, i go to bed, and now the person's winning. that's not true, but that's the conversations people are having. >> i think that's right. i think there's so many pressure points in our political system, which is frankly a pretty strange patchwork for a modern

country to have where different states have wildly different rules for how you vote, when your votes are counted, which municipalities are likely to report first. it's confusing to people, right? and everybody who works in politics knows this. and the difference is some people work in politics know that confusion is there and play upon it to sow distrust in the system. and there are other people who try to explain why this might seem strange and there's a process you need to let it work. i will say, laura, i think part of where the president is coming from here and where democratic leaders generally are coming from they recognize it's a strong likelihood republicans are going to pick up one or both chambers of congress next week. and i think looking ahead to a divided washington with a pretty far-right faction in the republican party gaining power, they want to set the table for the american people to understand the conflicts that

are going to come next. >> in fact, the press secretary didn't even want to comment today when she was asked by reporters about the potential of a divided government. it's funny when we're talking about democracy in peril and the more conceptual, there's also the argument happening in cities across the country about the tangible, and crime oftentimes is what people are pointing at as the attack on democrats and blue run cities. i had a chance to talk to governor of new york, kathy hochul today, and she spoke about it about a language barrier happening, about crimes and guns list. listen to this. >> because lee zeldin and republicans cannot say they're tough on crime and be soft on guns. it is the guns in our streets, 400 million guns in this country. any gun on the street in new york city is by nature illegal. they came from somewhere else. >> she goes onto talk about this, and the idea of thinking about how where some democrats are talking about gun control as

their fear of crime, republicans talking about the idea of being unsafe. and for many although it's lower on that cnn chart we pulled out in the poll, this is still part of the biggest talking point in the country, right, crime. >> absolutely. karen, i know you worked on the north carolina senate race. i'm from north carolina. if you watch a college football game north carolina is playing nc state or something like that. that's in a couple weeks. you're going to see a lot of ads on crime. and if he's not talking about crime he's talking about the economy. it's why i watched the biden speech today some sort of mystified sense about why he was doing this and doing it today. i thought it was a good speech politically. i thought it was a good speech how it was delivered. i agree with a lot of what biden says on these election deniers that are taking over county boards and obviously states. but politics is about people, and people are concerned about what's happening to them every day of their lives, and that's when they go to the grocery store, when they go to the gas

station, and everything they see and hear about crime. by the way, if you go to the grocery store you may have to hit a button for somebody to come get things for you because of shoplifting. so even if you're not a victim of crime you see that crime's a daily issue. >> can i just say on crime a couple things i think are important to remember. so third way did a comparison of blue cities, red cities, blue states, red states. and actually crime has risen at higher rates in the red cities run by republican mayors and in red states actually not in the blue cities, and that progressive proskierecutors and policies there's another couple of studies that show actually those progressive ideologies have not increased crime. so when we really dig into the numbers it's a little bit of a different picture. however, it is a great issue to demagogue on. i'm glad the governor talked about guns because i think for democrats pointing out also that crime is about what does a safe community look and feel like?

it's more than just, you know, it's about guns, it's about people feeling good in their homes -- >> to your point it's not about numbers. it's about how voters feel. and the new york governor race is a race solely on the issue of crime. lee zeldin was attacked alt an event and a few weeks later there was a drive-by shooting in front of his house. that makes the issue front and center. >> well, allison, feelings. we're going to talk about next the idea of politics being local and this really is about feelings, if you think about it. how people are feeling on the issue, and actually on our website cnn.com, jake tapper compares the perception of crime versus the realities of what's happening. i encourage everyone to look at that. >> we here on our panel have been talking as you guys have been talking about how in that cnn poll crime is down there. it is not one of the top issues. as i think you mentioned it's only 3% of respondents consider it the issue, the most important issue they'll be voting for their congress person on, which

is surprising because crime is part of what feels like a daily conversation. so it's hard to square all of that. but people -- i hear you -- feel uneasy whether or not the crime has actually gone up in their neighborhoods. so we'll get to all of that. meanwhile a lawyer for president trump called justice clarence thomas, quote, the key to trump's plan to delay the certification of the election. we have the newly released e-mails that beg the question why were they so confident that clarence thomas would do what they want?

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we're just days out from the 2022 mid-terms, and we're getting new details about the efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. the former president's election lawyers were counting on supreme court justice clarence thomas. in one e-mail from december 31, 2020, trump laura writing thomas would end up being the key here. we want to frame things that thomas could be the one to issue some sort of stay. and of course the idea here stay being let's delay this until

maybe every "i" is dotted and "t" crossed even for things not evidentiary supported. it's unbelievable. >> yeah, by the way this was december 31st so before january 6th. so it shows this was a plan. we are six days before january 6th and that didn't spontaneously combust. back with us right now jeff doneson, david swerdlick and elie honing. why were these lawyers so gung ho? >> all they could do was get someone somewhere wearing a robe of some authority. >> they seemed to really want clarence thomas. >> clarence thomas is not the bad guy of these e-mails. i think we need to be clear about this. there's plenty of other reasons he should recuse. he's not the bad guy in these e-mails. first of all they're not singling him out just because they think he'd be favorable.

every supreme court justice is assigned a certain geographical circuit they are in charge of incoming emergency motions. the the 11th circuit which includes georgia that is clarence thomas' territory. we saw it the other day with the lindsey graham subpoena. that's number one. number two, lawyers all day long talk about judges and just s. ooh, that's really good, we're going to lose if we get her, going to win if we get him. hope we get these two, not that one. the bad guys are these ones, what they're doing is taking a theory they know is completely bogus and say if they get lucky and clarence thomas puts a hold on this, just a procedural hold then we'll argue that's something. >> let me read up a little more of the e-mails just released curacy of the january 6th committee. so this is again e-mail from the trump attorney, kenneth cheese borough, december 31st, if we can just get this case pending before the supreme court january

5th ido ely with something positive written by a judge or justice hopefully thomas, i think it's our best shot of holding up the count of a state in congress, okay. so the plan is laid out here. one more thing, elie, would justice thomas lent them a sympathetic ear, knowing what you know about his leanings, would it be good? >> if i were in their shoes he would be my number one draft pick. perhaps they even tried to do this through georgia and perhaps not arizona or wisconsin or pennsylvania because it was justice thomas' geographical area. guess what, they wouldn't be the first people. i'm not making excuses for them, but let's remember justice thomas did not bail them out. he did not do this for them. >> as elie points out his wife, clarence thomas' wife, ginni thomas, was directly involved in trying to overturn the results of joe biden's win. how isn't clarence thomas isn't recusing?

>> right, texas the white house chief of staff not some random person. i think not only should justice thomas recuse but i would argue he should resign. lawyers do what lawyers do. justice thomas is not the bad guy in these e-mails and nothing in these e-mails suggests the justice did anything under him. i will say eastman was a clerk of justice thomas', so it is possible, possible he thought he understood justice thomas' thinking even if there was no collusion or playing footsie. the other thing i would add is this. i want to tie what we were talking about before the break with this. president biden spoke about democracy today. this is a case where lawyers were doing lawyer stuff but they were also trying to throw sand in the years of our constitutional republic, of our democratic process. throwing wild legal theories against the wall to see if they can stop the results of a free

and fair -- >> the e-mails showed they knew they were wrong. >> how do you know they see they're bogus? >> one of the e-mails they're talking about whether they can have donald trump certify their claims to fraud, and they're like i don't know. if you're not willing to take it to your client and say sign this, that means you don't believe it's correct. >> very little surprises me coming out of this period of time, and it fits a pattern. we saw this pattern over and over again in georgia where they would develop a plan and they would go out to the field to try to find facts and figures, really only at most times to just shape a tweet. all of this was to create enough chaos and did you tell to sow the seeds of doubt. the plan was developed without any sort of fact pattern around it. and, you know, this is once again not surprising that they were scheming to try to take some sort of angle. >> yeah, but i really appreciate you saying that, because, laura, that is the truth. they would come up with a scheme or come up with some cockamamie idea and some of the lawyers

like sydney powell and et cetera, obviously rudy giuliani, would go out and try to find some nugget, some kernel. we watched it all happen. >> they would plant the seeds and when judges would ask what came of them or why they were being watered sydney powell said in the past -- i'm paraphrasing of course, nobody would actually believe what i'm saying. the truth is people did believe. and to this day, this evening the president of the united states had to talk about it six days before the election. in fact the idea of election denials, not the closing arguments of all the different issues that are top of mind maybe in the more tangible sense. but that's what this leads to. that's the consequence, and as you well know, allison, it also impacts the way people view the credibility of the supreme court of the united states. there's already not a lot of transparency, right, when they were recused, why they choose not to. this adds another log, unfortunately. but it also adds to the

conversation more broadly how people view our political system and the number of recorded threats against congress it's increased more than ten fold since just 2016. and there's news today that shows women are targeted three times more often than men. we'll talk about the toxicity of policy in this country, allison, next.

well, congress is demanding answers tonight about security for members after speaker pelosi's husband was brutally attacked in their san francisco home. >> and the u.s. capitol police are confirming today that an internal security review is under way, laura, because one of

the details that has come out is that there are security cameras around the pelosi home, can they have a live feed to the capitol police back in d.c., but no one was monitoring that feed because the speaker wasn't at her home in san francisco, so it took them ten minutes to realize that a crime was under way. so obviously they need a security review to figure out what to do differently. >> it's funny you think about that and it's not entirely clear whether the officers would have responded maybe even sooner. who knows, the idea think of the cost incurred and what is required and the sheer scope of the problem. i mean, we see what happens when capitol police officers are outnumbered, and you think about the notion of just the scope of toxicity happening right now. i mean, how many officers is it going to take and surveillance to bring this temperature down? let's talk about it with my panel here. i've got alex burns, karen finny, and doug hie. when you think about the capitol police were monitoring but

nobody was watching because she was in washington, d.c., he of course in california. but this is not the first time we've seen even in this election cycle toxicity. i mean you wrote a really interesting op-ed for "the washington post" when you were with the rnc communications director you were part of the fire pelosi slogan. tell me about how your thoughts have evolved since then, you say. >> well, it really started on friday. earlier in the week last week i e-mailed a couple of colleagues and said, hey, whatever happened to the fire pelosi banner that frankly i stole on the last day of my tenure at the rnc? i protit with me, and i said what are we going to do with this if this is presumably nancy pelosi's last election, and then friday happened and it made me think about what rhetoric i'd used in the past, and certainly everything we see that spins everyone up. and when you start to write about that, you get to get criticisms of both siderism or the other side's worst than mine. i want to be introspective and

say where do i cross the line? and i don't straight fire pelosi to what happened in 2010 anymore than i do chuck schumer saying brett kavanaugh was going to face the whirl wind and pay the price and somebody showing up at his house with a gun. clearly if roaring waters cause more frequent and violent hurricanes that's what's happening in our political rhetoric right now. when steve scalise was shot and the two security detail members who worked with him worked in eric canner's office when i was there, david and crystal, i know them well. nobody made jokes. we took it seriously. and mitch mcconnell said the right thing. kevin mccarthy reached out to speaker pelosi's office. that's the right thing to do. republican members shouldn't be joking about this. when gabby giffords was shot i went to my office that saturday morning at the rnc. i was at a conference call with

colleagues in john boehners, office and we want to say the right thing so no one said the wrong thing. >> look, one of the dynamics here so troubling i think doug is sort of taking adjacent to it there's this debate after these incidents about whether the person was really motivated by politics or whether they were just a violent, crazy person. and it's such a bogus, false dichotomy, right, when you have pallitation and public people whipping out violent conspiracy theories violent people hear those, too, and we're a country full of people with mental illness and with easy access to weapons. and at some point this sort of hairsplitting argument about whether the person was a hard line ideological radical or just a severely disturbed person marinating in this completely

broken culture, the distuinctio is on a practical level. it doesn't affect how endangered you are. >> there's an axios study out talking about -- i don't think it's just the fact it's pelosi. there's reporting about how women are three times as likely to be targeted than even male candidates or incumbents. you used to train as part of the work you do, train women candidates to prepare them for this very likely prospect. >> that's right. it tends to be women, lgbtq candidates and candidates of color tend to face more attacks, othering, hypersexualization, which we've seen with pelosi a few times, racist, sexist, and violent in those attacks. and one of the things when you're training -- working with candidates and their teams, you have to really talk to them about monitoring that because what you want to do is make sure you're aware if it gets --

because most campaigns don't have security. they don't have to kind of security members do. so they have to watch for themselves so if it gets to a certain level and they need to go to the police or make someone aware, they know how to do that and to know how to prepare your family for that. because seeing your loved ones viciously attacked like that can really wear down particularly children. and, you know, i think part of it i just want to say -- i think part of what's happening in politics has become too much of a game. and there is too much instead of recognizing we're human beings, we -- we used to work on opposite sides. we disagreed, i thought he was wrong, but i didn't think you were -- i wasn't going to burn it to the ground. i think that's what has changed. social media has certainly enabled that. >> i think the idea you describe and this idea somehow it's been incentivized to engage in this behavior and there's this thought that somehow it will

translate to votes, just that it has training for people who want to be part of the system which is never supposed to be a spectator support in democracy that women are getting it, it seems to be translated across the board. you can argue that's part of the reason democracy is in peril. >> absolutely. furthermore, all sorts of poll workers and election workers. >> yes. >> are being threatened more than ever before. these folks are volunteers. they are also some of the backbone of democracy. we need help at the polls. you know every time you go to your polling place you see all the volunteers handing you the ballot, directing you towards your polling booth. and the fact they are coming under attack, i mean all of it up and down from nancy pelosi down to that, it's getting -- obviously we've talked about this, the demonization is a cancer. it's a cancer of democracy. >> there's even election worker shortages and here we are two years before a presidential election. we had the january 6th committee with ms. freedman and her mother

talking about their experiences being targeted even for the unfounded stuff. i mean, my goodness. >> speaking of toxic politics someone who knows a lot about that will be on cnn tomorrow. you can tune in for an interview with hillary clinton. so cnn this morning is our new morning show as you all know with katelyn and poppy and don. so tomorrow on cnn this morning 8:00 a.m. eastern, tune in for that. >> and up next, everyone, i want you to try to imagine this if you can. you are 16 years old, you're working at your job when an armed robbery happened. so what do you do, you call 911 and your mother answers. well, that really happened to our next guest, and they're going to tell us all about it next. lasts up to 12 hours. vicks sinex targets congestion at the soururce, relieving nasal congestion and sinus pressure by reducing swelling in the s sinuses. try vickcks sinex.

it really is a parent's worst nightmare, an armed robbery at your kid's place of work. now imagine if you will being on

the other side of the 911 call and you're actually hearing your own child's plea for help and delivering? that's what happened to a dispatchworker -- an emergency dispatchworker, excuse me, terry clark. her 16-year-old daughter was working at a mcdonald's last month when an armed woman came in forcing tamia and other staffers into the freezer. listen to this 911 call between terry and her daughter. >> mama, please hurry-up, she got a gun. >> hurry, give me a description. >> she got somebody outside and she got us in the freezer. >> you in the freezer? >> yes, she has us in the freezer. >> joining me now tamia hill and also her mother, and tyrrell morris. i've got to tell you when i'm

listening to this the mommy in me is losing my mind. i'm just trying to figure out at what point did you realize when you called 911 that it was your mother's voice on the other end of that call. >> well, once i first heard 911, i ouautomatically knew it was m mom. i heard her voice and i automatically knew that's my mama. >> it might have been on one hand comforting to hear your mother, the most comforting voice you know. but i think when your child falls down and you're supposed to train your body as a mom to not react so they don't react. you had had to steel yourself to make sure you could do the job you were supposed to be doing for the last 24 years. what was going through your mind? >> when i said 911 what's your emergency and i heard my child

say, mama, send the police, they're robbing us, in my mind i'm like this has to be a joke. but i was like what is your location, and my child went to screaming, mom, it's me, i'm at mcdonald's, you know where i'm at. so i'm taking the call, i'm praying, i'm -- it's something i never imagined would happen, but i know i needed to get the police to my child to save her. >> and tamia not only did they have a gun but you were in the freezer which had its own safety risk. what was everyone doing around you while you were talking to your mom? did they even know at that point she was the one to try to send help on the way? >> yes, because continuous i kept saying mama please, mama, hurry. we were all in a huddle trying

to stay warm because none of us had jackets on. so we were all looking out for each other while in the freezer. >> and i imagine there are moments and you think about the training that needs to take place in order to get people prepared for the worst-case scenarios. did you ever think something like this was going to happen and just how she was able, teri, she was able to be so calm. tyrrell, when you heard this call, what did you think? >> i think for all of us it sent chills through all of our spines, right? what teri did that day is what 911 professionals in new orleans and across the country do each and every day. here in new orleans alone 1.2 million times a year people show up. it takes us 16 weeks to train a call taker to even answer the call. i'll be honest and i sit here as a director and i don't know if i could be as calm as teri was in

this moment. but she definitely showed up for this city and showed up for her daughter and made the industry very proud of her. >> all of us moms are proud. i want to know what was it like when you were able to get back together? that must have been quite a reunion. i'm not sure i'd be able to let my daughter go. i'm surprised you're not having her handcuffed to you right now because i'd be like, kids, you're staying here for the rest of your life. tell me about that moment. >> well, after i took the call because i heard it just now, so i'm a little teary. after i took the call and when i'm taking the call, tears are rolling. once i disconnect the call because i was overtime, and i went to the manager and i said that's my child, i need to go. and when i got to mcdonald's the officers was there, and they knew she was my child. and the sergeant came out, she

was like, teri, you can't come in, you know, it's a scene. we're talking to them, we're taking care of them. and i was like just let me hold my child because that night, you know, taking that call i'm hearing her. but when i disconnect i don't know what's going on within that time frame of me leaving my job there, and the only thing i kept doing was praying. and when my child came out the door we stood there and i held her -- we stood like about 12 minutes and i kept telling her i love her, i love her. i said you're going to be all right. but it was during the night when my child couldn't sleep and she was, you know, crying in the night and having nightmares and i'm holding her because that night i let her sleep with me. and that night alone my baby was

like a newborn all over again. and since then it's hard for me to really let her go places because of the crime -- and crime is everywhere, don't get me wrong. but, you know, i'm like i don't want anything to happen to you, but she's a teenager, she want to have her own fun so it's hard. >> every mother out there, every father, every human being out there is listening to what all of you have said. thank god you are safe because so many parents don't have the opportunity to hold their child like you have. and i'm sorry, tenia there goes your social life. it's okay. on behalf of all mothers i support her, i'm on her side. don't worry, everything's going to be okay. we're glad to see all of you. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> allison, can you imagine, i

mean i'm telling you my children -- in fact, my kids are under the table right now. they're under the table. >> that question you asked teri, that is the her for the rest of her life, and the idea that she was so scared and she was so emotional, but she followed her training and was so professional and had the police go there. you know, obviously that worked. just huge kudos to that mother in that moment and how scare she must have been finally showed up at the mcdonald's. that was incredible to hear her family story. >> and when you see the daughter, when she touched her mom's arm when she said that, i mean, if i didn't have mascara on i'd be crying. >> that was a really nice interview. all right, we'll be right back. it's time to take advantage of a plan that gives you more for your m medicare dollar. a medicare advantage plan from unitedhealthcare. so, give unitedhealthcare a call today. ♪

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so, the washington commander dan snyder is looking to possibly sell the team after being accused of false during a call -- by the nfl, he denies the accusation but after independent mastication, the nfl find the commanders 10 million bucks. instead of handing over control the franchise daily operations to his wife tanya. >> right after news of a potential sale, espn's stephen a smith offered an idea for who should own the team. >> it's time for black ownership. i know the lady i think her name is melody hobson, was part owner for the denver broncos if i remember correctly, i hope i'm not wrong about that. i'm not sure. but i think that was. but i'm talking about a majority owner. of a national football league

franchise. that happens to be a black person. that would be nice. >> you know, probably surprised people to this day that there is that absolute void in many respects for ownership. and compared to this vote, we're talking about last week, alison, the idea of what it's like about black coaches. we're talking about divisions of power in the powers that be. with a over 70% i think league that is overwhelmingly black. >> yeah, i was just thinking about that, laura, i think was daunte -- on our air who paraphrase'd was saying something to the effect of black ownership would go a lot further towards creating pathways for black coaches then the rooney rule does. so, that is what would make a real fundamental change is black ownership of teams. >> absolutely. and see, everyone, alison no sports we talk about the rooney rule here on a wednesday night. >> honestly. all of these years where i was faking it like i didn't know anything about sports, --

>> we all know the one thing, ownership matters. right? the finances behind it. the powers that be a powerful for a reason. >> for sure. i'm not actually sure that's a real bona fide sports story but i'm working on it. so, tell us what you think about everything we've been talking about tonight? you can tweet us at the laura coats and allison camerota hashtag cnn sound off. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. certified from headlamp to tailpipe. thatat's certified head turn. and it's all backed by our unlimited mileage warranty. that means unlimited peace of mind. mercedes-benz certified pre-owned. translation: the mercedes of your dreams is closer than you think. at fidelity, your dedicated advisor will help you create a comprehensive wealth plan for your full financial picture. with the right balance of risk and ward. so you can enjoy more of...this.

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