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astrological allison -- i'm just riffing right. now >> i can see, that i can see that. >> it is astounding, alison, astounding. >> better. you are not floors out of the park, then i'd like -- to i thought it was my smile, my dad is a dentist, thank you so much. >> i'm not -- >> your distracted. >> i'm not jubilant. >> you are not jubilant, jake, i like that. >> war, nor jocularly, more jaded. >> you seem jocularly when jimmy camel was cracking up. that was great. >> he is great. >> it's funny. he's a funny guy. >> anyway, great to see you, guys have a great show. >> i will lift you off. we're >> all right, keep it up, for good evening everybody. i'm alison in new york. >> and i'm laura coats in washington d.c., this is cnn -- on a night when the president of the united states lays out his closing argument with the midterms just merely days away is warning election deniers could lead the country down to what he calls, impact to chaos.

he insists that democracy is indeed on the ballot. we are about to see the things he is warning, about and may turn out to be true. so i wonder, what happens if it does, alison? . >> nothing good, laura, nothing good as we have seen already in the past. plus, in these final days of the campaign, herschel walker is going after barack obama. >> some of you may not remember, but herschel walker was a heck of a football player. i mean, some of you are too young to remember, but in college he was amazing. one of the best running backs of all-time. but, here's the question, does that make him the best person to represent you in the usa? >> why don't you go back to wherever his friend, get 1 million dollar mansion. >> go back to wherever he is from, we are going down the whole road again.

and, why are these two fighting with each other, going after each other rather than herschel walker's actual challenger, we have a lot to talk about tonight. >> by the way, alison, where he is, from also includes the white house, so that doesn't endorse -- for obama to return maybe at some point. >> interesting, interpretation. >> stranger things have happened. >> maybe that is your interpretation, we will dive into all that. so lieutenant governor -- jeff duncan is here with us, we also have cnn political commentator -- and journalist -- great have all of you. so, let's listen to president biden's closing argument where he is obviously very concerned about democracy, and about an election denier. there are hundreds of them running, and one of them winning anything from governor to secretary of state, so let's listen to what he says about the path to chaos. >> as i stand here today, there are candidates running for every level of office in

america for governor, congress, attorney general secretary of state launch commits, and will not commit to accepting the results of the election that they are running in. -- this chaos in america, it is unprecedented. it is unlawful. and it is an american. >> so lieutenant governor, he is talking about the lies that threaten democracy, and he is talking about how to preserve democracy, is that a winning political argument? >> well i know they wanted to be, and i tried to keep track a couple of times because you try to keep democracy on the, bella lost it couple times. unfortunately for the democratic party, the american system is -- americans are thinking about the economy. it is really racking up their businesses, their communities, gassed prices, 401 (k) s, it is on the top of their mind. >> but can't you argue that without democracy, none of that matters? >> absolutely. i spent the last

two years of my life making that argument. but america is distracted with the economy. out of all the things he spoke about tonight, he never mentioned the economy. hadley said i didn't hear. >> by our account, it was one time. he did mention the economy. but he definitely hit democracy many, many, many more times. so david, you the lieutenant governor is not wrong. here is a cnn poll from last week, most important issue in choosing your congressional candidate, number one, 51%, abortion 15%, voting elections, which i guess is another word for democracy, that is down at 9%. so, why is president biden hitting that so hard? >> i agree with the lieutenant governor that this is not what people are focused on right now. but i think it could have been a good closing argument for president biden if democrats had focused back in the late summer, early fall on their legislative winds, semiconductors, guns, getting

justice jackson confirmed, the burn pits legislation, and not given that first democracy speech where he distracted everybody with the semi fascist line that got their message all off track. and focused on what they were doing for people come around a week before the election, and closed with this democracy argument. he said the best line of that last speech again tonight, which is, you cannot love your country only when you win. he said it back then, he said it now, that is the crux of his speech. but there is so much noise, as you are saying, and so many other issues. i'm not sure it breaks through. >> when i listen to president biden talk a lot about how his accomplishments a lot. he, when i was doing the 2 to 4 show, every single day, we would blow a partial because he would have an unexpected press conference in front of the bridge to hold the infrastructure, or the semiconductors, i mean, all the time. but i hear you, that those messages did not quite resonate like the fascist line.

>> those were not cutting through. when you talk about the issues that people care about right now, he really can't make a strong case about the economy right now because a lot of voters hold him responsible for what we are going through. so i think to your point, alison, he is trying to appeal to our core values in saying if your vote does not matter, that nothing else will matter. and this was a very clear warning, and acknowledgment by the president that he fears that this midterm election will be 2022 point oh. except perhaps more dangerous, because now election deniers have had two years of practice to work on this. there are a number of similarities. we have a number of states in very close races. you have very high stakes, the balance of congress hangs in the balance. you have likely it is going to be days before we know what some of these races, what the outcomes will be, because it takes time to count these mail-in ballots. there will be election deniers who are already laying the groundwork for saying that there is fraud, that these are invalid --

>> if they lose. >> if they lose. so we are seeing a lot of similarities from 2020, except this time around we may not have people marching on the u. s. capitol, but marching on state capitals, and marching at local election offices. so this is the president saying that we have seen this before, now we have some foresight, so what are you going to do? >> all right. standby. it may not be politically winning, as you heard the lieutenant governor say, however it is certainly on the president's mind as the, you know, most critical issue. >> when you think about, it as you articulated, the idea is nothing can really get done in less democracy is functioning. and not really able to address the economy, address crime, address abortion, address a whole host of issues unless fewer people are represented. but let me ask my panel, they are here in washington d. c.

right now. political commentator, and republican strategist, maybe i am looking at a glass half full sort of person today, even though we are six days out. but it sounds like you are talking, about if you are president biden, and you are talking about, let's manage expectations, prepare for there to be election denial happening, democracy on the ballot, do you think that he thinks that the red wave is not really coming? because in order to contest an election, maduro publicans are actually losing in his mind, this is an optimistic spin to address the idea of voter enthusiasm, and democracy on the ballot, what do you think? >> i think there are a couple of things going on here. i think democrats are concerned that what we are seeing is gop talking points about a red wave, we are seeing a lot of different poles, the american public is probably over polled at this point, but when you look at the turnout data there is enthusiasm on the democratic side so one of our concerns is let's let the voters have their say, let's not tell them what is going to happen, and depressed turnout. that is number one. number two is the new york times reported that over a couple dozen of the lawyers who worked for donald

trump's efforts in 2020 to overthrow the election and all sorts of different schemes in the states are right now working in a number of states for a number of campaigns on the republican side. so it was kind of a priest aging that says that we have seen this before, we know what this is, do not let it stop you from voting. that is part of the democracy message, everybody has a voice, everybody has a vote. but also remember that it may take a little time. we are not going to necessarily have all of the answers on election, night and that is okay. >> part of this concern is that you are thinking the way we can tabulate. i mean, there is not this, there is always that you go to bed at night and someone is winning, you wake up in the morning and it is different. the morning hours can be the most politically vulnerable period for people to have trust in the system because it is the time people will pick up and say oh, this is what this is, i go to bed, someone you didn't like was ahead, and now all of a sudden the person is waiting, it is not true. but this could be our conversation that i think he is having, what do you think? >> i think that it is right. there are so many pressure

points in our political system, which is a strange patchwork for a modern country to have. and different states have different rules for how you vote, when you vote, which municipality is likelier to report. it is confusing to people. and everybody who works in politics knows this, the difference is that some people work in politics, they know that confusion is there and play upon it. so distrust in the system, and other people try to explain to people why this might seem strange but actually it is a process that you need to let work. i will say that part of where the president is coming from here, where the white house administration leader is generally coming from here is i think that they recognize it is a very strong likelihood that republicans are going to take one or more votes in the chambers of congress next week, and looking ahead to a divided washington with a pretty far-right faction in the republican party gaining power, they want to set the table for the american people to understand the conflicts they

are going to come next. >> and in fact, the press secretary did not even want to comment saying when she was asked by reporters about the potential of the divided government. she wanted to sort of have a more optimistic notion. it is funny, while we were talking about democracy in peril, and the more conceptual, there is also the argument happening across this country about the tangible, and crime oftentimes is what people are pointing at as an attack on democrats. as the idea of so-called, blue run cities. i had a chance to talk to the governor of new york, kathy hochul today, and she spoke about it from the perspective of a language, a barrier happening. those who are talking about crime, and guns, listen to this. >> because the republicans cannot say that they are tough on crime and be soft on guns. it is the guns in our streets, 400 million guns in this country, any gun that is on the street in new york city is by

nature illegal. it came from somewhere else. >> she goes on to talk about this, and the idea of thinking about how, where some democrats are talking about gun control as their fear of crime, republicans are talking about the idea of being unsafe. and for many, although it is lower on that chart we pulled out on the pole, this is still part of the biggest talking points in the country, right? crime. >> absolutely. karen, i know that you have worked on the north carolina senate race, i am from north carolina. if you watch a college football game in north carolina, they are playing and see state or somethin g like that, that is in a couple weeks, you will see a lot of ted but adds on crime. if he's not talking about crime,

he is talking about the economy. that is why i watched the biden speech today with some sort of mystified sense about why he was doing this and doing it today. i thought it was a good speech, politically. i thought it was a good speech, how it was delivered. i agree with a lot of what biden says on these election deniers that are taking over county boards, and obviously states. but politics is about people. and people are concerned about what is happening to them every day of their lives, and that is when they go to the grocery store, or when they go to the gas station, and everything they see, and hear about crime. by the way, if you go to the grocery store, you may have to hit a button for somebody to come and get things for you because of shoplifting. so even if you are not a victim of crime, you see the crimes as a daily issue. >> but can i just say a couple of things i think are important to remember. third wave did a comparison of blue cities, red cities, blue states, red states. actually, crime has risen at higher rates in the red cities run by republican mayors. and in red states, actually not in the blue states. and progressive prosecutors, and those policies, there are another couple of studies that show actually, some of those progressive ideologies have not increased crime. so, when we really dig into the numbers, it is a little bit of a different picture. however, it is a great issue to go on. i am glad the governor talked about guns. because i think for democrats, pointing out also that crime is about, what is a safe community, what does it look and feel like?

it is more than just, it is about guns, it is about people feeling safe in their homes, and in schools. >> to your point, it is not about numbers, it is about how voters feel. the new york governor's race is a race solely because of the issue of crime. liz eldon was attacked in an event and then a few weeks later, there was a drive-by shooting in front of his house. that makes the issue front and center. >> well alison, feelings have been more how com, jake oin talking it the issue, it the issue, we will get to all of that. meanwhile, a lawyer for president trump called clarence thomas the key to trump's plan to delay the certification of the election. we have a newly-released emails that begs the question, why were they are so confident that clarence thomas would do what they want?

we are just days out from the 2022 midterms and we're getting new details about the efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. president election lawyers world actually counting on supreme court justice clarence thomas, apparently, stepping in to delay the certification of biden's win. in one email from december 31st,

2020, trump lawyer kenneth, writing thomas would end up being the key here. you want to frame things that thomas could be the one to issue some sort of stay. of course, the idea here of stay being, let's today this until every i's dotted anti crossed, even for things that are not evidentiary supported, it's unbelievable. >> by the, way this was december 31st, so before january 6th, so it shows that this was a plan. six days before january 6th, that didn't just sort of spontaneously combust on january 6th. okay. back with us right, now we have georgia lieutenant governor jeff duncan, also david -- why were these lawyers soak on how to give justice clarence thomas to hear their story. >> they had a bogus theory, nowhere to go. and they were just hoping to get someone, somewhere, wearing a robe, of some authority -- this is important. clarence thomas is not the bad

guy of these emails. i think we need to be clear about this. there's plenty of other reasons he should recuse. he should recuse because of ginni thomas's involvement, but he's not a bad guy in these emails. they're not singling things out -- every supreme court justice is assigned a geographical circuit that they are in charge of. the 11th circuit, including georgia, that is clarence thomas's territory. let's get that, number one. number two, lawyers all day long talk about judges and justices, that one is really good for us, we will lose if we get her, we will win if we get him. i hope we get these, to not that one. that is what they're doing here, the bad guys here are the lawyers. because what they're doing is taking a theory that they know is completely bogus and saying,

we got lucky if clarence thomas puts a hold on this, just a procedural hold, then we will argue that that is something and that should hold of the january 6th count. >> let me read more of the emails that have just been released courtesy of the january six committee. okay, this is again an email from the trump attorney, kenneth -- it is december 31st. if we can just get this case pending before the supreme court by january 5th, ideally with something positive written by a judge or justice, hopefully thomas. i think it's our best shot for holding up the estate in congress. the plan is laid out here. now, one more thing. would justice thomas have lent them a sympathetic ear, knowing what you know about his leanings and his history, would it have been good to get it in

front of justice thomas? >> if i wasn't issues, i would -- that will be the one that i would want to know for and perhaps even try to do that through georgia and perhaps not arizona and wisconsin and pennsylvania, because it was justice thomas's geographical area. but guess what? they would be the first people. i'm not making excuses for them, but let's remember, justice thomas did not bail them out. he did not do this for them. >> okay, so, david, his wife, ginni thomas, was directly involved in trying to overturn the election results of joe biden's win. how is it that clarence thomas isn't recusing? >> texting the white house chief of staff, not some random

person. i think this situation, not only should justice thomas recuse, i would actually argue that he maybe should resign. to your point, lawyers do it lawyers to. justice thomas is not the bad guy in these emails. and nothing in these emails suggest he did anything under -- i will say that eastman was a clerk of justice thomas's. so, it is possible that he thought he understood justice thomas is thinking, even if there is no collusion or playing footsie. the only thing i want to add is this, i want to tie together what we are talking about before the break with this. president biden spoke about democracy today. this is a case where lawyers were doing lawyer stuff.

but they were also trying to throw sand in the gears of our constitutional republic, of our democratic process, throwing wild legal theories against the wall to see if they could stop the results of a free and fair election. >> worse than wild legal theories. the emails show they knew they were wrong. >> how did you know that they were bogus? >> one of the emails talked about whether they could have donald trump certify -- if you're not willing to get your client to silence, it shows that you believe it is not correct. >> very little surprises me in this period of time.

if it's a pattern. we thought this pattern over and over again in georgia, where they would develop a plan -- really only most times to just shape a tweet. all of this was just to create enough chaos and doubt to sow the seeds of doubt. that is what makes it so disturbing. the plan was developed even without any sort of facts around it. this is once again, not surprising that they were scheming to try to take some sort of angle. >> i really appreciate you saying that because that is the truth, they would come up with a scheme or come up with some crazy idea. and then, some of the lawyers from sydney powell, et cetera, would go out and try to find some nugget or some kernel that would fit into it. we just watched it all happen. >> they would plant the seed and then, when judges would ask them what came of them or why they are being watered, they wanted to turn and say things like sydney powell has had in the past. i'm paraphrasing, of course. nobody would actually believe what i am saying. the truth is, people who

believe. and to this day, this evening, the president of the united states had to talk about it six days before the election, about the idea of election denials, not the closing arguments, but all the different issues that are top of mind maybe in a more tangible sense. but that is what athletes do. that is the consequence. and as what you well knohe recu, yet and her law, unfort cong 2016 and there's a new stume coy

>> congress is demanding answers tonight about security from members after speaker pelosi's husband was brutally attacked in their san francisco home. >> and the u. s. capitol police are confirming today that an internal security review is underway, laura, because one of the details that has come out is that there were security cameras around the pelosi home and they have a live feed to the capitol police back in d. c., but no one was monitoring that feed, because the speaker was not at her home in san francisco. so it took them ten minutes to realize that a crime was underway. so obviously, they need a security review to figure out what to do

differently. >> you think about that, it is not entirely clear whether the officers would've responded maybe even sooner, who knows, but the idea of just think of the cost has incurred and what is required. the sheer scope of the problem. we see what happens lynn capitol police officers are outnumbered, and you think about the scope of the toxicity that is happening right now. how many officers was it going to take? surveillance to bring this temperature down. let's talk with my panel here, i have alex burns, karen finney, and dug high. when you look at that, you think about how the capitol police was monitoring, but no one was watching because she was in washington d. c., and he was of course in california.

but this is not the first time that we have seen, even in this election cycle, toxicity. you wrote a very interesting op-ed for the washington post, doug, when you are communications director, you are part of the fire pelosi slogan. tell me about how your thoughts have evolved since then, you say. >> it really started on friday. earlier in the week, last week, i emailed a couple of colleagues and said whatever happened to the fire pelosi band? and i was going to see, what are we going to do with this, if this is presumably nancy pelosi's last election? then friday happened, and it made me think about what rhetoric i had used in the past, and certainly everything that we see that spins everyone up. and when you start to write about that, you start to get criticisms of both sides, or the other side is worse than mine, so i wanted to be in perspective and say okay, where have i crossed a line. and i do

not draw a straight line to the fire pelosi campaign in 2010 to what happened last week to paul pelosi anymore than i do, say, chuck schumer saying that brett kavanaugh was going to face the world one and paid the price, and somebody showing up at his house with a gun. but clearly, if warming water has caused more, and frequent, and more frequent and violent hurricanes, that is what is happening in our political rhetoric right now. so in ski state police was shot, and the members who worked with him, david and crystal, i know them well, nobody made jokes. we took it seriously. and mitch mcconnell said the right thing, kevin mccarthy reached out to speaker pelosi's office, that is the right thing to do. republican members should not be joking about this. people in the republican circles, when gabby giffords was shot, i went to my office that saturday morning at the rnc, i was on a conference call with colleagues, and john boehner's office, and we wanted to say the right thing and make sure that nobody on our side

said the wrong thing. >> are you the anomaly or the standard, what do you think, alex? >> one of the dynamics here that is so troubling, doug, i think it's talking adjacent to it, that there is this debate after these incidents about whether the person was really motivated by politics, or whether they are just a violent, crazy person. and it is such a bogus, false dichotomy. when you have politicians, and public people, and in some cases, television networks out there demonizing individuals, whipping out paranoid conspiracy theories, violent crazy people here are those two. and we are a country full of people with mental illness, and with easy access to weapons, and at some point this hair splitting argument about whether the person was sort of a hard line ideological radical, or a severely disturbed person is marinating in this completely wrote in culture. the distinction is just on a practical level. if you are a member of congress, or married to a member of congress, it does not really affect how in danger you are. either way, they are coming after you. >> there is an study that talks

about, the type of issue here, it is pelosi, i don't think it is just that it is pelosi, i think it is how women are three times as likely to be targeted than even male candidates, or incumbents. we used to train as part of the work we do, train women candidates to prepare them for this very likely prospect. >> he has. it actually tends to be women, lgbtq candidates, and candidates of color tend to be faced with more attacks, othering hyper sexualized nation, we have seen it with pelosi a few times, racist, sexist, very violent in those attacks. and one of the things when you are working with candidates, and their teams, you have to really talk to them about monitoring that. because what you want to do is make sure that you are aware, if it gets to a certain point, because those campaigns do not have security, they don't have the kind of security the members do. so they have to really watch it for themselves, so that if it gets to a certain level, and they need to go to the police, or they need to make someone aware that they know how to do that. and know how to prepare your family for that. because seeing your loved one viciously attacked like that all the time, it can really wear down, especially children. you know, i think part of it, i just want to say,

i think part of what is happening in politics has become too much of a game. and there is too much, instead of recognizing, or human beings, we used to work on opposite sides. we disagreed, i thought that he was wrong, but i would never, i didn't think that, you know, i wasn't going to bring it to the ground. i think that is part of what has changed. social media has certainly been like that. >> i think the idea you described, the idea that somehow it has been incentivized to engage in this behavior, and there is this thought that somehow it will translate to votes just the fact that you have to have training for people who want to be a part of the system, it is never supposed to be a spectator sport, in democracy, that women are getting it, that it seems to be translated all across the board, you can argue that that is part of the reason democracy is in peril. >> absolutely. furthermore, all sorts of poll workers, and election workers are being threatened more than ever before. these folks are volunteers. i mean, they are also some of the backbone of democracy. we need help at the polls. every time that you go to your polling place, you see

all the volunteers handing you the ballot, directing you toward your polling booth, and the fact that they are coming under attack, i mean, all of it up and down, from nancy pelosi down to that, it is getting, obviously we talked about this, the demonization is a cancer. it is a cancer of democracy. >> there are even election worker shortages. and here we are, two years before a presidential election, we had the january 6th committee with miss friedman and her mother talking about their experiences being targeted even for the on founded staff, i mean my goodness. >> speaking of toxic politics is, someone who knows a lot about that will be on cnn tomorrow. you can tune in for an interview with hillary clinton on cnn this morning. it is our new morning show, as you all know with caitlin and poppy and don. tomorrow on cnn this morning, 80 am eastern, tune in for that. and up next everyone, i want you to try to imagine this if you can. you are 16 years old, you are working at your job, and an armed robbery happens. what do you do? you

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it really is a parent's worst nightmare. and armed robbery at your kid's place of work. but now imagine if you will being on the other side of the 9-1-1 call and you are actually hearing your own child plea for help. and delivering. that is what happened to a dispatch worker -- terry clark's 16 year old daughter was working at a mcdonald's last month when an armed woman came in, forcing her and other staffers into the freezer. listen to this 9-1-1 call between terry and her daughter. >> mom, please, hurry up. she has a gun. >> we are going to hurry. >> she has somebody -- she had this in the freezer. mom, please. >> here in the freezer?

>> yes, she has this in the freezer. >> joining me now -- who is assistants operations manager for the emergency dispatch center. and a tyrell morris, executive director of the orleans parish communications district. >> i have to tell, you what i'm talking -- the mom and me is losing my mind. i'm just trying to figure, out at what point did you realize that when you called 9-1-1, that it was your mother's a voice on the other end of that call? >> well, once i heard her, i automatically knew it was my mom. i automatically knew, that is my mom. >> i mean, that must have been, on the one hand, comforting to hear your mother, they must comforting voice you know. but terry, i think about when your child falls down and you're supposed to train your body as a mom not to react, so they don't react and think that really hurt. you must have had a moment in your own right where you had to steal it yourself to make sure

you could still do the job that you are supposed to be doing. the last 24 year -- what was going through your mind. >> when i said nine and one -- what is your emergency? and i heard my child say, mom, send the police, they're robbing us, in my mind i'm like, this needs to be a joke. but i was like, what is your location? and my child, that, mom, it's me. you know where i am not. i'm at mcdonald's. so, i'm taking the call, i'm praying. it is something i never imagined what happened. but i knew i needed to get the police to my child to save her. >> and not only do they have a gun, but in the freezer -- that obviously had its own safety risk. what was everyone doing around you while you were talking to your mom? did they even know at that point that she was the one to try to send help on the way? >> yes, because continuously, i kept saying mom, please, mom, hurry. we were all in a huddle, trying to stay warm because none of us had jackets on. we were all looking out for each other while we were in the freezer. >> i imagine that i am sure that there are moments in the work that you do, you think about the training that needs to take place in order to get people prepared for the worst-case scenarios, did you ever think something like this

was going to happen and just how she was able to be able to be so calm? i mean, when you heard this call, what did you think? >> i think for all of us, it sent chills to our spines. but what terry did that day is what 9-1-1 professionals in new orleans and across the country to each and every day. here in new orleans alone, 1. 2 million times a year, people show up like terry every single day. this job is not for everybody and terry demonstrated that her hard work, 24 years of experience -- it takes 16 weeks to train a call taker to even answer the call. i said here is the director and i don't know if i could be as calm as she was in this moment. but you definitely showed up for the city and showed up for her daughter and made the industry very proud of her. >> all of us moms are proud. and just thinking about what you have done -- i want to know, ladies, what

was it like when you all were able to get back together? that must have been quite a reunion. i'm not sure i would be a let my daughter go. i'm surprised you are even able to not have a handcuff to you right now. because i would be like, kid, you are staying here for the rest of your life. tell me about that reunion moment. >> well, after i took the call, because i heard it just now so i'm a bit emotional. after i took the call, tears are rolling. once i disconnect the call, because i was -- i went to the manager and i said, that is my child. i need to go. and when i got to mcdonald's, the officers were there and they knew she was my child. and the sergeant came out and she was like, terry, you can't come in. you know, it is a scene. we are talking to them and we are taking care of them. and i was like, just let me hold my child. because that night, taking my call, i am hearing her. but when i just connect, i don't know what is going on within that timeframe of me

leaving my child there. one thing i kept doing was praying. and when my child came out the door, we stood there. and i held her. we stood for a few minutes and i kept telling her, i love you, i love you. i said, he will be all right. but it was during the night, when my child couldn't sleep, and she was crying in the night and having nightmares. and i am holding her because -- but night i let her sleep with me. that night, my baby was like a newborn all over again. and since then, it is hard for me to really let her go places. because of the crime and crime is everywhere, don't get me wrong. but i don't want anything to happen to you. she is a teenager. she wants to have her girlfriends. so, it's hard. >> i mean, i can relate. every mother, every father, every human being is listening to what all of you have said. thank god you are safe. so many parents don't have the opportunity to hold their child like you have. and i'm sorry. there goes your social life. you'll be under your mother's

wing for quite some time. it's okay. on behalf of all mothers, i support her. i'm on her side. don't worry. everything will be okay. we're glad to see all of you. thank you so much. >> alison, can you imagine? i mean, i'm telling you, my children would probably be -- my kids are actually under the table right now. >> [laughs] that question that you asked her is the one i got her emotional because that is her impulse. she does actually want to keep her daughter handcuffed to her for the rest of her life. and the idea that she was so scared and she was so emotional, but she followed her training and was so professional and had the police go there, you know, obviously, that worked. and just huge kudos to that mother in that moment and how scared she must have been when she finally showed up at mcdonald's. that was incredible to hear

their family story. >> and you see the daughter, when she touched her mom's arm, i mean -- if i did have mascara on, i will be crying. >> that was a really nice interview. all right, we will be right back.

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so, the washington commanders owner dan snyder is looking to possibly sell the team after being accused of fostering a toxic workplace by congress and the nfl. >> he denies the accusations. but after an independent investigation, the nfl find the commanders $10 million. he handed over control of the franchise as daily operations to his wife. >> right after news of a potential sale, espn's stephen smith offered an idea for who should own the team. >> it is time for black ownership. i know the lady, i think her name is melody, she's a part owner for the denver broncos,

if i remember correctly. i hope i'm not wrong about that. i'm not sure. but i am talking about a majority owner of a national football league franchise that happens to be a black person. that would be nice. >> surprise, people still to this day -- there is a void of ownership. compared to this -- we're talking about this last week. the idea of black coaches. we're talking about divisions of power, the powers that be -- with over 70%, i think, leak that is overwhelmingly black -- >> yeah, i was just thinking about that because i think it was daunte -- he was saying something to the effect of, black ownership would go a lot further towards creating pathways for black coaches then, you know, the rooney rule does. so, that is what would make a, real fundamental change is black ownership of teams. >> absolutely. see? she knows about sports. she's talking about the rooney rule here on a wednesday night. >> honestly, all these years where i was faking it -- >> [laughs] we all know the one thing, ownership matters, right? the finances are behind it. the powers that we are powerful

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