we are less than a week from the midterm elections setting the stage for 2024 and the war of words is escalating with control of congress on the line. >> already, nearly 28 million voters have cast their ballots. the early numbers on pace to outskirt out-do 2018's massive turnout. this is a good opportunity for dualing panels where we can talk about the notable moments on the campaign trail. >> how much time do we have? >> let's do four minutes. >> i'm writing it down. >> i'll start. clock please. let's bring in georgia's lieutenant governor jeff duncan. and great to have you guys. so, somehow herschel walker and barack obama are now beefing instead of, barack obama is not running for anything. but it started as you know, lieutenant governor on friday. when barack obama was in

georgia. and he said this about herschel walker. >> there is very little evidence that he has taken any interest, bothered to learn anything about or displayed any kind of inclination toward public service or volunteer work or helping people in any way. he's a celebrity who wants to be a politician. and we have seen how that goes. >> so then for the past couple of days, herschel walker has felt the need to answer that. so yesterday, he basically said, why doesn't barack obama go back to where he is from? here's that moment. >> why don't he go back to where ever he is from and live in his million dollar mansion. where has he been all this time while people are dying on the street ins while gas prices are going up? where has he been all this

time? can you believe that? >> so barack obama hasn't been running for office. that is part of where he has been all this time. but just, herschel walker according to the local news from texas, lived in a gated community for ten years in an almost $3 million home. >> yeah. >> this is kind of the pointless fight. barack obama is not running for office. >> first black president versus fake deputy sheriff. >> right. >> is that the resume? i assume he means the heisman trophy winner. >> the issue is, we have heard a lot of these criticisms from the very beginning. people criticized his intelligence or whether or not he is prepared for office and the allegations of if he is a

hypocrite. when you look at the poll numbers they are barely looking. even after the allegations come out suggesting he has paid for the abortions. so the question is why aren't these things working and what would work? >> what's the answer? >> i think this is entertaining to watch. i don't think it is changing anybody's mind. i think the real news story is that joe biden is not there campaigning for rafael warnock seasoned donald trump is not campaigning for joe herschel walker. joe biden continues to be tied to the economy. and that's what jordan is thinking about. >> i think it is a great point. why is herschel walker making that argument against barack obama when he is not in the race? he knows that drives energy among the base. if donald trump isn't going to come down there, a way to reach the trump base and drive small dollar money is to go after one

of the party's biggest villains. he is picking that fight intentionally. he thinks that drives republican voters to his side. when you look at poll numbers, yes, the scandals haven't hurt him. to the republican candidate that have improved his standing. >> in our final 15 seconds, you think, i think it is fair to say herschel walker is doing better than he deserves to be. >> it is certainly surviving and the catalyst moment is that debate. that debate mattered. >> right on time. >> you really nailed it. it was almost an episode of the show nailed it. give me the clock. i want to bring in karen finney and charlie dent and former white house senior director. i had a chance to talk to senator rafael warnock today about his decisions and views

of when herschel walker. listen to what he had to say. >> my opponent, on the other hand, cannot bother himself to be truthful with us about the most basic facts of his life. basic facts. he claims he was in law enforcement. clearly he wasn't. and, claimed that he worked in the fbi. he clearly didn't. claimed that he was valedictorian of his class. he wasn't. claimed he graduated from the university of georgia. he didn't. claimed to have started a business that does not even exist. he has a long history of imagining himself in certain dogs. >> what do you think about the idea? the polls in georgia are still deadlocked it seems.

>> this is beyond the imagination of mitch mcconnell when he said he was concerned they were not going to gain the senate. because lackluster candidates. the challenge we are talking about is the fact, the lies actually don't seem to matter for a large number of voters. one of the things that reverend warnock didn't mention was abortion. that herschel walker has been accused of handing out abortions like candy and he is a hypocrite in that regard. he is supporting policies that he himself wouldn't want to see. >> candidates used to matter. i would argue they still matter but a hell of a lot less. we have become so polarized it is red team, blue team. that's what people aring looing at. they are willing to overlook some seriously flawed candidates like herschel walker and others and it may not matter at the end of the day. his numbers are kind of flat after the first abortion

allegation. there is a third one. they might go higher. >> it is interesting that reverend warnock was talking about trust because president obama also talked about trust. if you have a candidate that you can't trust to tell you the truth, as president obama said, how do you know that he will be looking out for you when he is more loyal to trump than maybe he is to you, that is meant to put a little bit of a wedge in there with voters to say can you trust this guy when the chips are down. that he is going to do what's good for you or what's good for ideology in the party. >> he is playing to a handful of swing voters. he wants to get the camp warnock order. that republican or independent. >> suburban voter. >> they may be enough. some republican voters. i can't go there. i can't go there. and they are going to hold their nose and vote for the democrat. >> but voters are not necessarily what we

traditionally thought of them to be. that is not who herschel walker is speaking to when he makes these comments about barack obama. he is not speaking to younger generation millennials or black voters. he is speaking to hard white voters who are very pro trump happy to see the comparison between herschel walker and barack obama as equal simply because they are black. >> i will say having worked in georgia in 2014, the hope is if they will vote for kemp, maybe they will vote for warnock. that ends up favoring the democrat. >> we'll see is right. we only have about six days to go. but you know what? i'm fully confident. i will hand it back. i feel like my panel just did the thing. >> wow, you also just nailed it. >> the body language and the

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>> let's look at ohio. we have republican jd vance with a slight advantage over tim ryan. 47% to 45%. but that is well within the margin of error. that said, i'm a little skeptical that this race will end up as close as this. let's look at past polling eras in ohio. look in 2020, the gop candidate seven points better, 2018, gubernatorial race, the gop did six points better. the same thing in 2016. and, 2014, governor's race. look at that. the gop candidate did 10 points better that year. but that is not the only reason why. take a look at the ohio presidential results. what do we see? we see a trend toward candidates. look at donald trump, these eight-point wins in 2016 and 2020.

here is the key nugget to keep in mind. if in fact, jd vance wins this ohio race which i expect, the chance democrats win senate control still 37%. but if tim ryan pulls the upset, look at this, the democrat's chance of winning the united states senate overall jumps all the way to 85%. so, we'll just have to wait and see. back to you allison. >> okay, harry, really interesting. thank you for that. so let's bring in analyst john adalon. so, fox had a town hall with tim ryan and jd vance. not together. but one went first, another went second. it was interesting. and particularly, they said very different things. the audience seemed to like both answers. >> jd vance wants a national abortion ban. and he wouldn't be happy with these people going to illinois. he wants them to get a passport

and go to canada. >> after 15 weeks. >> after 15 weeks. >> so what is your number? you said you don't want it after? >> i think we go back to roe v. wade. it was in the third term. in the third term of roe v. wade, you could only do it if there was some kind of medical emergency. we don't want jd vance and ted cruz and these guys in the doctor's office. >> he said you want to ban abortion in ohio and across the country. is that true? >> look, i'm pro life. i am pro life. now, there is a federal piece of legislation moving through the senate right now. here is what it does. it sets a minimum national standard and i think that is a good idea. we should not be aborting babies who can feel pain, who

are fully formed. that's my view and i'm willing to support legislation that would make that a reality. >> we go to allen. >> it is interesting, the crowd liked both answers but they were completely antithetical. >> they are going after the same voters. that is part of the reason we see this race so tight. the republican candidate had the edge. trump won this state twice by eight points. the climate favors the republican, and the state already has a democratic senator, so the question is would they send another democrat to the senate? but, what we have seen happen, vance got bruised with the primaries and ryan is the best candidate the democrats could have possibly hoped for. he is a moderate. he is able to raise a ton of money and what we are seeing

here is exactly that. >> what did you hear? >> jd vance said he would back the national abortion ban bill. that's what he said. he got the applause for saying i don't think we should be aborting babies who feel pain which is a third trimester saturday. tim ryan said we should stick with roe v. wade. that speaks to the unpopularity of unoverturning roe. that wasn't the response that the fox hosts were expecting from that crowd. but i think it speaks to the frustration folks feel when an actist court takes a way a right that has been on the book 50 years. there is a common sense balance here. that is what they were both getting to. backing the national abortion ban is not commence balance. >> it speaks to the republican position, that court's decision, put that issue back in the state legislatures for a

lot of these states for ohio. the state legislature is totally more conservative and out of step with who the median voters are. it goes back to gerrymandering. to a court that is not giving the voters real power on this. because the way that those maps are drawn, particularly in ohio means that they do not have a real say in how abortion plays out in that state. that's what ryan is trying to hit at. the problem for democrats is i do think he is probably the best candidate they could have. he is probably a weaker candidate than republicans could have, but the structural realities of ohio are trending in that direction. the best case for democrats and the worst case for republicans could still end up in the republican way. >> democrats have been committing malpractice by not backing tim ryan more aggressively. >> he is the best democrat candidates have. why are they not backing?

he feels it to. he mentioned it during this town hall. listen to this. >> i won't owe anybody anything. i feel really good about where we are. the average people are supporting us. working people are supporting usful that's all we need. >> that was today. you heard him. it's great they are not backing me. >> lyndon johnson had a term about that as well. his whole mitch is i'm going to come in. represent ohio. be my own man and not vote lock step. he is a moderate guy running as a pro worker candidate. antichina and he really, his messaging is the best the democrats have nationally when it comes to working class and middle class voters. and that reflects the fact he is from youngstown. he gets it. the fact, why haven't democrats backed it? they feel like they get burned

every time. you know, ohio looks close. and then it ends up pulling away. here is where candidate selection really matters. even in a midterm, especially in a state like ohio when you have a candidate like jd vance. jd vance wrote a very successful book. a venture capitalist coming from out of state. compared to tim ryan's appeal. so, i think ryan is a fundamentally strong candidate. i think frankly obama should go do a rally there. you talk to people on the ground in ohio, they would say we need to make sure turnout is up in cleveland. cincinnati. >> and we will see trump doing a rally there. the day before the election. >> to that point, there's other reasons besides win or loss. there has been such erosion for democrats among those types of working class, particularly white voters, noncollege white

voters who have made ohio trend in that opposite direction. it about building a longer term strategy to win those voters back. that maybe if it doesn't pay off in this election, it could pay off in future elections. by not investing here in ohio, they made a similar decision in places like florida. you are not just losing now. but you are also going to, it is also not building the infrastructure for the future. >> and that is really interesting. thank you very much. it is interesting because it does give tim ryan the opportunity to stay i don't need them. but maybe he would prefer the money. >> one would think. the idea of the pipeline so important and thinking about the long game, most politicians ought to be thinking about and playing. he would owe someone nothing. if there is something about the notion, it is not as if the top democrat in the country, president biden has the highest of approval ratings. maybe it is the 10-foot pole is

not the most unwelcome notion here. but we shall see in just under a week. winning the midterm elections may hinge on two very important words. gas prices. and we will talk about them next.

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have been happening in between. it has been spiking. and, in a few days until the midterms are still upon us and the question is, will the elections hinge completely on that 377 number? joining us now, editor at large, christa, charlie back with us. first of all, i wonder, we are talking about the president today. talking about democracy being on the ballot. it is a very theoretical concept. gas they feel every single day. >> i understand why joe biden wanted to give this speech he gave tonight. when he ran, he ran for that reason to protect democracy. from the threat of donald trump. if i'm a democrat, in a swing state or a swing seat, i would have preferred the president give a speech tonight about gas prices, inflation and the economy. just because cnn poll out today, 51% of people said the economy is the most important

issue affecting their vote. abortion is second at 15. now, still, i'm not trying to dismiss it but 51, 15. i get why he did it. i think he is not wrong about the threat to democracy. i think when people are thinking about they go to fill up their car. they go to get groceries. it is more, you said theoretical. that is more practical. yeah. democracy. that is not great. i'm not sure people vote on that. >> it is always somebody is cussing at the pump. >> i'm that lady who will drive around. even if it is across the street, i will make that u- turn. gas prices are a political stand in for feelings about the economy. not the facts about the economy. gas prices are sticky. once they hit a certain point,

people are willing to pay this. great. we will continue to make record profits. pay out dividends and we will not do things like increase production. to make them lower or do anything to help the consumer. that is how the whole process works. $42billion of profit this quarter. exxon, $20 billion. this quarter at a time of war and energy. >> if joe biden had said that, they would be in a better place. >> that is part of the challenge of how it works. >> demand fell during the pandemic and supplies were cut as a consequence. demand came back up faster than supplies. that is why we were in the mess we are in. talking about win fall profits taxes, that will further constrict supply. we did this in the 70s . it didn't work. it made the problem worse.

many of the democrats, you know, they talk about the war in russia having an effect. so does the war on fossil fuels. that is not helping either. they want to phase out fossil fuels by 2030, 2050 so these investors, they are not operating on an election cycle. it will take time. >> billions of dollars for production. they are not just looking at the next month. they are looking years out. >> lest you think that january 6 will not make an appearance, senator cotton had a pivot of the two. here is what he said. >> never forget january 6th. gas was at $2.40 a gallon. it was at $2.40 a gallon because four years, we had an

administration that understood that american energy production fossil fuel, gas, oil, powered the economy. >> i think that is an incredibly cynical piece of political rhetoric. there is a new york times poll. people said do you think there is an active threat to democracy in the country? 79% of people said yes. they asked people, is democracy an issue that protecting democracy means you will be voting on 7% of people said yes. that delta between those two, is a huge problem. i think people say yeah. democracy. we do need to protect it. but it is not a voting issue. economy, economy, economy. 51% of people said they care,

democracy. i don't know if democracy was on the list. >> it wasn't on that list. >> that doesn't mean it is not important. >> it doesn't mean there isn't a real threat to it. there are people running for office in michigan, arizona, in position for election. running for election offices who deny the 2020 election. that is bad bad every single time. we should talk about it and we should point out. i don't know if it changes what people are voting about. >> it doesn't change opinions at this point. one week is getting out the vote. democracy is on the ballot. because it is raining i wouldn't go out to vote. it does make sense to create a sense of urgency. about the system you are living in and the benefits you have had from being american. it is a big umbrella topic. it is a whole lot under the

economy. i think about rent, mortgage. and i think about the idea of wages. gas of course is a part of that. is that nuanced enough and specific enough to persuade the last minute voters? >> well, right now, let's face it. democrats are running up against the issues right now. they are hurting on the economy. they are hurting on inflation. they are hurting on crime. and those issues seem to be trumping the other issues at the moment. i'm not saying abortion will not make a difference, it does in some issues. but that is not what is driving upmost voters. voters. this is a real issue. no way around it. but they want to do something about inflation, why don't they just cut tariffs? they don't want to do that. >> six days out. even if joe biden gave that speech i said he should give on the economy. six days out, you know, the very few people who are still

undecided maybe it reaches down. but it may be a base turnout thing. i'm not sure that speech changes anything. i just know if i'm a democratic candidate, sitting in a tough state, the president giving a speech about democracy and our poll saying any is by far the biggest issue, i would be like dude, can we talk about this? >> you are actually not having biden come to your state. you are having barack obama who doesn't upset people. he brings swing voters out. they are crafting their messages as well as they can. unfortunately, the fact that unemployment numbers and jobs are increasing. the feeling of the economy being bad is just not going away. >> as you say, it is local and based on feelings. at the end of the day, how you feel about a candidate is going to be maybe the most persuasive motivation of all. >> for sure, do you want to have a beer with them? that is always a litmus test. what we are talking about here,

we are all in our own bubbles geographically. and as mara just pointed out, for people who live in a big city, like new york city, gas prices are not top of mind. you know, it is not necessarily everybody's top issue. >> it is true. if it is a vehicle and a way to get to work or the economy reflects the ability to have to make the choice. it depends on where you are. >> okay, meanwhile, an fcc commissioner thinks the u.s. should ban tiktok which of course is used by millions of americans. and millions of teenagers. our panel is going to weigh in on that next.

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so here's the general rule that has nothing to do with politics. it has to do with being a decent person. if you read or see something on the internet that has some grand theory about how some people, whether it is blacks or whites or jews or catholics or

immigrants or gays, that those people are the cause of all your problems, when you see or read something like that, it is safe to say that's garbage. it is false. it is a poison that is dangerous and we need to call it out as such. >> that was former president barack obama moments ago in arizona speaking about hateful rhetoric on the internet. there is fear about the social media app tiktok. one of the fcc commissioners is calling on the federal government to ban tiktok. he is concerned about tiktok's handling of user data and the chinese government may try to get ahold of that information. is he right about tiktok? is it a recipe for user data

waiting to happen? >> i think tiktok is an area. there's obviously this concern about china here. but i remember trump talking about this back in 2020. the fcc, the commissioner, the single commissioner, the fcc chair you respect him. doesn't have that much to say. >> i'm not saying he doesn't have the power to do it. is he right? >> i think a lot of people would say he is right because it is so addictive rather than saying all our data has been siphoned back to china. the government is talking to tiktok. this commissioner is not part of those conversations. should there be concern about it of course. >> i'm concerned. am i being to paranoid? >> i think the concern is so vast, so wide. and so engrained to our lives

that they can be paralyzed. i am someone who doesn't have tiktok but has used tiktok. goes on tiktok and knows that data can be used and might very well be in that. i know that when i get on instagram. it has become so engrained on how people get their information. it will be hard to undo that. >> the practicalities of tiktok. it is difficult to do. but, which one of these is not like the others? tiktok because it is owned by the ccp. and that offers a major potential not only for getting data information, american citizens but also for influencing the algorithm in a way that can communicate

propaganda. there's problems all about dissemination of misinformation. god knows we need algorithm reform. the impulse to ban things usually backfires. >> let's quickly talk about twitter. elon musk, one of the things he is considering is charging people for blue checks. meaning their verified accounts. the issue is not do we mind paying $8 a month. well i do. it it is how do we know who is really who? >> this is not about status with a blue check. this is about the original idea is how can you verify you are talking about real individuals as opposed to bots and trolls and bot farms who distort the debate that we have right now? and elon music legendsic said one of the things he wanted to do was to increase transparency. make it easier to verify real accounts. putting this stuff up for sale will presumably muddy that. that is moving things in the

wrong direction. >> i think in defense of elon musk, i don't think he is coming from a good place. i think for so many people, allison, you left twitter for a time yourself. it is the anonymous trolls and bots. particularly for women and people of color that absolutely drown out and abuse people to push them off the platform. so if we were to open verification to more people, if twitter was, and more people verified it, i only want to hear from people on this platform that are willing to put their faces to their names. at the same time, allowing for anonymous accounts because those anonymous counts are important in society's disdense. >> i can see that good faith view about what musk is trying to do. but he has not earned that yet.

it is just in his own actions and his own use of his twitter account, it does not seem to be someone trying to create an environment for a clear and good information. so, it makes sense to me their explanation, but the in real life, i have a hard time believing it. >> in 15 seconds, can you tell us what just happened in the world series? >> a no hitter was just pitched in the world series. first time since don larson, 1956 and it was four combined pitchers so while our colleague jake tapper, my condolences. his phillies have played a great world series. but no hitter four pitchers, astros at the phillies. >> i could have told you all of that. but i wanted john to tell everybody. >> that is a hell of a game. the idea of how long it has been. he went six scoreless innings. that is unbelievable to think about. people are paying thousands of

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>> that was unbelievable to think about. i still get chills about it. also, this one was from carmela. it said the question is does moral excellence matter in this country anymore? doesn't seem like it. >> we think it does. >> you know where to find us. >> everyone, thank you for watching. we are only a few days away from the midterm elections. >> our coverage continues and we'll see you tomorrow night. clinician recommended menthol topical pain relief brand. works fast. lasts long. cool the pain with biofreeze.

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