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top of the hour. i'm jim sciutto. crucial midterm elections less than a week away and president biden sounding at alarm, warning that democracy itself is on the ballot next week highlighting the threat from election deniers. today biden made two notable appearances. campaigning in new mexico and california. other big names on the trail, vice president kamala harris and former president donald trump. he's stumping across several states in the final days of the race hitting iowa, ohio and florida. however, it is pennsylvania that is gaining a lot of attention from several surrogates. a hotly contested race there could determine the balance of power in the senate, a once healthy lead for john fetterman lead has now narrowed with polling showing just a slight edge over mehmet oz.
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our reporters and correspondents are at the white house and on the trail ahead of the midterms. let' let's begin at the white house with m.j. lee. this is a closing message ahead of the mid terps. it was a disturbing one and sounding the alarm that the very democratic spell and tell us what he said and what the intention was. >> a closing message from the president last night. and obviously very familiar themes from this president on protecting democracy and the pillars of democracy including the integrity of our elections system. importantly, though, he did kick off his speech by talking about the recent violent attack on paul pelosi which of course now authorities believe was politically motivated. and he said that attack was probably no different from what we saw happen on january 6 when the mob breached into capitol
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hill. and he said election deniers, candidates on ballot that may not accept the results of the election next week and any threats of violence he said, whatever happens next week, will set the course for the future of the country's democracy. take a listen. >> you can't love your country only when you win. this is no ordinary year. so we're asking to think long and hard about the moment we're in. in a typical year, we're often not faced with questions of whether the vote we cast will preserve democracy or put us at risk. but this year we are. this year i hope you'll make the future of our democracy an important part of your decision to vote and how you vote. >> and this speech comes as polls show there is no issue that is more important for voters right now than the
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economy and inflation. and later today, jim, the president will head back out west where le go to new mexico to campaign for the democratic governor there. he will also give a speech on student loans, an important issue for democrats as they try to galvanize voters and also make a stop in california to try to campaign for a house candidate so pulling out a number of stops to try to help his fellow candidates across the country. jim. >> you could see where they're worries are based on where they visit. mj lee, thank you so much. one of the most crucial tightest races is getting tighter with the potential hanging in the balance, the pennsylvania senate race where john fetterman maintained a healthy lead and that lead now down to a slight edge. the widely talked about debate may not have been the deciding factor many thought it might. cnn's jessica dean is on the trail in pennsylvania. she joins me now. why are folks thinking that
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right now, because certainly the attention leading to the up debate and following, there was an enormous amount of focus? >> reporter: there was so much focus on it, jim. an a lot of attention. but listen, when you talk to voters here, they are very focused on issues and thinking kind of beyond the debate as a data point for them, but they have so many other things their focused on, economy, and crime and abortion rights and we have a new poll that gives us additional data points in this ever-tightening race that is so critical in this midterm election. let's take a look at what they found. they asked if the debate was a factor in their decision. 51% of those polled said yes. 47% saying no. so that is one data point we have. let's look again at kind of a head-to-head match-up. that shows no clear leader but fetterman with 55% of the vote
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and oz 42%. and that is in the margin of error. and then i think the third point to take into account is our cnn poll, where we take all of the polling and average it out, showing fetterman at 50% to oz's 40%. that is a snapshot. and cross crossing the commonwealth of pennsylvania here. we've seen them here in montgomery county, where i am, these are witch with swing and independent voters which a lost people believe will play a critical role in the outcome of this race. i talked to somebody yesterday who told me they voted for obama, obama, trump and biden and now deciding how to vote for this. just a perfect example of the swing voters in these counties that they're trying to target. >> no question. yet again, the spotlight on pennsylvania. jessica dean, thank you so much. another big state,
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candidates in wisconsin race has new tv ads making last final appeals to voters and tony ibus was on at tack against his chag challenger and with mandela barns blasting the republican incumbent senator ron johnson. but neither gop candidate is mentioning their opponents in their ads. cnn correspondent omar jimenez joins us live from wisconsin. omar, so quite different messages. tell us what they're saying. >> reporter: they are, jim. all of these candidates are trying to paint a final message with a few days to the election here in wisconsin and across the country. and the senate race, mandela barns is clearly trying to bring the fight to senator ron johnson, saying that he is someone that is only in it for himself and not for wisconsinites. senator ron johnson has tried to paint himself as someone who
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wants to unite wisconsin. even trying to recruit some democrats in the process. but despite that, johnson has described him opponent barnes as someone who hates america. so i asked him, point blank, how does that square with this latest message of so-called unity. take a listen. >> we're just at sort of stand and what you're saying. >> that is the truth. so, you do have to convey the truth to people. you have to -- the election is a choice between two people. an unfortunately, the truth is that the left are the ones that are dividing this country. >> and ron johnson is the worst senator since joe mccarthy because he has no record to defend and it is 12 years of nothing and serving himself and turning his back on the people of the state of wisconsin. >> and he said he doesn't hate america. but it is a similar feel in the
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governor's race between tony evers and the trump-backed tim michaels. evers has tried to point to a future of bipartisanship and said that michaels would be a puppet for president trump. michaels tried to point to a new direction for wisconsin including trying to keep wisconsinites safe and polls have shown no clear leader in any of the races for months now. and every stop there is a joke about wisconsin's collections are always close and i have a feeling that is what we're going to see this time around as well. >> thank you. and to join us to talk about this is dana bash and white house correspondent for pbs news hour, laura lopez. lots to discuss. dana, first, the president's closing message. we're hearing a lot of candidates make their closing message and his was focus to democracy and was the right message from the people you spoke to. >> the people who i'm talking to who helped to craft this and
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decide about this idea of this message argue the following, they argue that it is the right message, not necessarily for a tim ryan or a mandela barnes or anyone who is out there running for office, but it is a right message for this president at this time. he's on the ballot metaphorically. he's not actually on the ballot. and they felt that this is kind of time and he is the messenger to give this -- to give this message kind of big picture for the democratic party. but also for the country. especially the part of it that maybe got a little bit overlooked about kind of the warnings of -- or the call for patience i should say when some votes come in early and some votes come in late, saying don't worry, things will work out. the votes will happen. having said that all that, it was very political. over the at the white house, the dnc, campaign strategists across
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the board say that even though this is not going to be a determinative issue, we know the economy is, it could help get some voters who voted for joe biden in 2020, who might be sitting out the midterms to say, okay, fine, i'll go and vote. >> and clearly my impression was feels it. he feels the need to -- post pelosi attack. not everyone feeling it, though. as i listen to hillary clinton's interview on cnn this morning, not so veiled criticism to overall democratic party messages. have a listen. >> what i wish we could convey more effectively is that if you look at what has been accomplished in the first two years of the biden presidency with the congress working hand in hand, in fact, the work done by the democrats in helping the economy and helping people deal with what is global inflation,
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not just american inflation, is truly impressive and we got to get that message across more e effectively. >> laura, she seems to say they're fnot getting the messag out. >> we've heard that from gavin newsom and others down ballot in vulnerable races who are trying to strike this balance. and i that i virginia is a good example, lorraine has been focusing on democracy and hammering her opponent about election denialism, but she also is trying to talk about the economy and what democrats so far have done and what they could potentially do if they keep it. again, the one issue on the economy and the big bills that were passed under biden's agenda is that they take a while to take effect. so voters don't necessarily feel it immediately. and i think that sometimes voters don't totally -- i was just talking to some who doan look at it as a global inflation
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issue and even though it is. so in the final days it is very clear that biden, to your point, dana dana, is making this democracy push and he really feels this. the historians that i've talked to that consult with the white house, biden thinks this is a moment for him to insert himself because he sees that in past other presidents have inserted themselves at inflection points like that. like lincoln, like fdr and he's looking at that as a potential model. >> could i add one thing to that. it is that voters, maybe even if they understand this is a global problem, they don't care. and i don't mean that as a knock on those voters. >> i know what you mean. >> what they care about is their income stayed the same but the price for things they need to buy are much highers. which means they are struggling. that is what matters. and they have an outlet which is the polls and the election and they might want to do use it. and elaine loria, i heard her,
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she is trying to strike the message that hillary clinton said they need to strike. i was with the democratic candidate, and it is not being heard over the struggle that people feel and the fact that republicans are amplifying it. >> and those local candidates are talking to voters every day. more so than -- so just very quickly, are you surprised that abortion has fallen off a major voting issue, as least as it appeared to economic issues. >> we were just talk ing about this. the folks that i talk to, abortion is front and center. i was just in michigan and every single woman mentioned abortion and democracy. it is what is motivating them. i've been talking to this voter in pennsylvania, she voted trump in 2016 and biden in 2020. she's voting based on abortion because of her granddaughter and she knows more than eight other
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women will that will vote for democrats based on abortion and not tell their spouses. so i think there is a privacy element to that vote because it is a very private issue. >> and we often talk about how pollsters miss republican voters on issue. is there a case where pollsters are missing women voters. well we'll know on tuesday. >> or later in the week. >> or later in the week. listen to -- >> when the votes are counted. >> wall street is still reacting to the feds' fourth straight rate hike. that has concerns about a recession grow. and when you could see some relief. and kash patel has been ordered to testify about documents at mar-a-lago. and later -- >> the astros have a world series no-hitter.
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fast. remember, though, that we still think there is a need for ongoing rate increases and we have some ground left to cover here. and cover it we will. >> well let's see how the markets think about all of this. right now down just under 200 points. it had been down more in the last hour. we'll continue to watch it. for more on this, we speak to gina smiley, a federal reserve and economy reporter for "the new york times." gina, it is interesting to hear the words from the chairman. it is been good and successful so far. i haven't heard that from a lot of folks on either side given that inflation has stayed high even with four straight three quarter percent interest rate hikes. is there a disconnect there. >> i imagine what chair powell meant is that the fed has successfully managed to raise rates a lot this year. they've really had the fastest tightening campaign since the 1980s. and they've done that without
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really setting off any kind of massive alarm bells in markets and any kind of meltdown. the kinds of really bad disruptions whenna just policy this week and i think the reason the fed would view that as a success is with rates that levels they should start to weigh on the economy and bring down inflation. we're getting to that point where hopefully this will have some sort of effect and it managed to get to that place relatively quickly. >> a comment that struck commenters and myself was he said the path to a soft landing, lowering inflation without sparking a recession has narrowed. it seemed to be, and this is reading tea leaves with the fed chairman and the comments, was that he's comfortable with that. he's comfortable with a greater risk of a hard landing here. is that how you read those comments and how are the marks likely to respond to that?
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>> i think that probably is the right way to read those comments. and i think that you have sort of take a step back and think about the situation that we're here in. we've had fast inflation for 18 months now. it doesn't seem to be going anywhere and very stubborn and problematic. so from the fed's perspective, the greater sin is not causing a recession, it is not getting the inflation under control. while it is not a guarantee we'll have a recession, it is a possibility. >> and is there evidence, every month, we and you and others watch these inflation numbers come in and there was false signs of hope, it seems like it is leveling out and i watched those numbers and i said this looks like last month's number. is there any evidence this is bringing down or stop the rise in the rate of inflation? >> i would say there are really good reasons to hope that
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inflation is going to moderate sort of by march of next year. we're seeing rents come down across a lot of big cities in america. and that is good news because that is feeding into inflation slowly but it does quite a bit when it does. so that should be a positive. that said, i think at every stage of this inflation saga we've had a good reason why inflation should start to come down in two to three months and every stage of the last 18 months, those have not played out or been swamped by a bad development. so there is a lot of reason for humility at this stage. >> thank you so much. right now former president trump's legal team is trying to throw a wrench into the new york attorney general's fraud against the trump organization. we'll be live outside of the courthouse. by-like wonder, anticipatory chewing, and happy claps... sliced rigight in front of you. it's a jersey mike's thing. ♪
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cnn has learned that a top aide to formez president trump kash patel has been granted immunity while being ordered to testify before a grand jury investigating the handling of federal reports at mar-a-lago. patel has claimed that he personally witnessed trump declassifying records before he left the presidency. cnn's senior legal affairs correspondent john reed joining us now.
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is there interest here purely about the former president or could it be more broad? >> well just last month he refused to answer any questions before the grand jury. he invoked his fifth amendment right. one of a small group of advisers who could possibly have legal exposure in this mar-a-lago investigation. prosecutors believe he has valuable information. now he has immunity and he he is expected to answer questions. and now he cannot be prosecuted for any truthful information that he provides. and look, jim, there is a lot to ask him about. not only is he a former trump administration national security and defense official, he's also one of the people that was designated by the former president to interact with the national archives an the justice department as both of these agencies were trying to get back these classified records that trump kept from his presidency. now, he is also said publicly that he witnessed trump declassifying some of the materials before he left office and that is likely something that prosecutors want to ask him about. if he said now that he has
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immunity, yes, i witnessed him de classifying, that muddles any potential prosecution and makes it more complicated. if he said what i said publicly wasn't true and that is problematic because now you have a witness who said one thing publicly and another one on questioning. and what does it mean for former president trump? it is never a got advisers is answering questions about potential crimes that happened on your property. but anything beyond that about hip flipping or being this is the huge sign that he's going to be indicted, that just gets way beyond the reporting and it is speculation at this point. right now we're trying to figure out when kash patel will answer questions before the grand jury. >> we'll wait to see what they find. joining me now to discuss, paul rosen's wife, senior council as well for the whitewater investigation.
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paul, good to have you on. first on the kash patel news, your read this granting of immunity there, why? shield him because i suppose they're more interested in the facts than in going after him, potentially? >> look, i actually read a little bit more into it than your reporter. they're treating kash patel like he's donald trump's alibi goigoiftd girlfriend. and when a murderer is saying i was with my girlfriend and i bring her in under grand jury and say that under oath, and either she lies and exposes herself to criminal charges or under the scrutiny of the grand jury, she tells you the truth, no, he wasn't here and that is what they're doing now with the declassification story. at least that is part of what they're doing. they're going to put patel to the choice of, you know, telling the grand jury a story that he's going to have to own for
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forever, or coming clean and saying he was lying when he was talking on fox news. and so that is actually pretty significant because you only do that to the girlfriend when you think your going to charge the murderer. >> interesting. >> you only do that if you're looking at next level up. so i think -- clearly that is speculation. but i think it is a pretty significant step. >> are you saying or just asking for your prosecutorial sense here that they don't believe kash patel's story that he saw the president declassifying these documents? >> i don't think many people believe that. there is no evidence of it. there is no written record of it. this is the story of a trump sycophant that he told to -- to right-wing news. but either way, you want to know -- you locked in his testimony. whenever way he goes with this in front of the grand jury, he has to own that for the rest of this prosecution.
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if it turns out that he's lying, then he's got personal exposure to criminal charges for perjury. and if he recanted in front of the grand jury, he's locked in. now you know you fixed the defense. >> other case, the january 6 emails, that were recently turned over to the january 6 committee, in those a lawyer for trump described supreme court justice clarence thomas as, quote, key to trump's plan to delay congress's certification of the 2020 election vote. just quoting here, we want to frame things so thomas could issue a stay or saying that georgia is in legitimate doubt here. that doesn't mean thomas would have done that necessarily, but that was at least their target as part of this plan. given that and given ginny thomas's role already, what do you make of thomas's decision thus far not to recuse himself from anything january 6 related? >> well, i think that the
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january 6 investigation is broad enough that you could probably divide it up reasonably. i think what this said is that should, for example, the eastman email conflict and disclosure to the january 6 committee come before the court, he would probably have to recuse simply because his name is in the emails that are the subject of the dispute. and it certainly reflects the fact that everybody on the trump side thought he had a predilection by the case that was favorable to them. and as a judge, you can't stop people speculating about what you mean. and it is really not his responsible to monitor what kenneth cheeseboro said to john eastman. so he has a little bit of a decent complaint here that i shouldn't recuse because other people are talking about me behind my back. >> understood. paul rosen, always good to have
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two ukrainian officials have denied that. telling cnn that any statements about a possible russian withdrawal, are, quote, more like a trap. we'll watch closely there. north korea is escalating tension this is morning firing three short-range ballustic missiles just hours after a government official said a separate launch has failed. that failed launch involved a much bigger long range missile, an icbm, intercontinental ballistic missile, a violation of multiple u.n. security council resolutions after the u.s. and south korea will extend joint military exercises as a response to those north korea launches. north korea called that decision, quote, a very dangerous and false choice. north korea has launched some 30 missiles just this year. now to turn to iran. where one human rights expert said as many as 14,000 people have been arrested in the ongoing protests sparked by
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death of 22-year-old massa amini. they could not verify the number of those arrests. iran has aunnounced the public trials of a thousand people involved in the demonstrations. dozens of them now face charges that carry the death penalty. massey ajad is an iran journalist and creator of the my stealthy freedom facebook page which highlights iranian women who have discarded their hijab. thank you form coulding on. >> thank you for having me. >> last time we spoke, just a little over a month ago, we were following protesters very closely. there was more international attention, just in the last week we had back-to-back memorial services for massa amini, who sparked this and 16-year-old nicka who was killed just last month. i wonder do see the memorials keeping the momentum, the energy
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of these protests against the regime? >> that is true. today hadi, become a turning point for iranians to take back to the streets massive protests across iran, not only in tehran and -- people were chanting against dictators. you know what happened? the people who found each other across iran, there is no -- i mean there is no turning back to there home or to prison. they are there to end the islamic republic. and last time when i was on your show, i was angry, begging the international community to take action. i was actually angry with the united nations that i knew for democracy countries voted for the islamic republic to talk about women's body at the united nations. but now i see that they are changing their tone as well.
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harris in the mus mentioned they are going to push for removal of the islamic republic from the united nation. so these solidarity is giving hope to people and people will not give up in the streets. >> let me ask you this. because kareem sathapoor said that for this regime, the hijab is one of the pillars of it effectively. forcing women to wear this to cover their hair along with death to america and death to israel. i wonder, do you see any scenario in which the regime, given how central this is to her message, if you want to call it that, gives up the hijab as a way to stop the protests. >> that is a very good question. look, the iranian regime has two options. to kill more people, which is going to create more anger and make people more determined to come back to the street. or the iranian regime come with concession or saying that, okay, we're going to get rid of
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compulsory hijab and get rid of morality police and that is going to be an end for islamic ideology and republic because the hijab is the main pillar of religious digitatorshipch it is like the berlin wall and if women get success to make the islamic republic to get one step back and get rid of the compulsory hijab, it is the end of the islamic republic for sure. you don't see any single slogan in the street against kpucompuly hijab. they are saying no to slavery. the americans know that. it is like saying practicing civil disobedience and saying no to slavery, this is a revolution led by women. but men shoulder to shoulder with women saying that this is 21st century. leave us alone. we deserve to have a secular
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democratic company. >> and women there always mention the hijab as a form of state control. when we last spoke, your comments in support of western sanctions on the iranian regime sparked some criticism of you from other members of the dissident community, other people who support the protests going on there now saying it is the iranian people who suffer most from the sanctions not the regime. and i wonder, what your answer is to that criticism? >> jim, the time of the apologies is over. the time of those who try to sell the narrative of the islamic republic to cnn, to the united nations, to the human rights organizations, by saying that because of this sanction people are in the street or people are suffering from the policy which has been made by americans is over. you have to pay attention to the people inside of iran saying that they lied to us, that they say our enemy is america.
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our enemy is hright here. the islamic republic and we are suffering on the sanction imposed by our own government by the laws. the relative of the more laws are here in meamerica enjoying their lives. they want the western government to sanction the islamic republic the way that they addressed putin and putin's relative. this is what the iranian people want. the iranian people are now in the streets facing guns and bullets and they're asking the western countries, the leaders of democratic countries to recognize the revolution. this is a revolution led by woman and people are getting killed in the streets and they have a clear message. the democrats here in america, the republican, they should see this bipartisan issue. the leaders of the e.u., should see this as a human -- this is about our dignity. >> yeah. >> this is not about sanction.
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this is not about nuclear. and believe me, when the western democracy countries come together and recognize this revolution, a free and democratic country would make the whole world a better place to live. it would make the whole world a safer place. right now iranian regime sending drones to ukraine. iran sends them money to iraq, to syria. you know, so that is why it is not about sanction. it is about one of the most barbaric regimes. islamic republic is like isis and it should be addressed like isis as well. >> well, we'll continue to follow this protest there. massa, nice to have you back on the program. >> thank you so much for not giving up on iranian people. >> we'll keep on it. after promoting an anti- anti-semitic documentary, kyrie irving is taking responsibility for the impact of his post. we'll have more on that coming up.
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the houstonian astros made history last night throwing a no-hitter against the phillies in game four. carolyn manno has more details. i know it is shared among four pitchers but that is a hard thing to do, particularly on that stage. >> it really is. and when you consider the fact we've seen this twice in nearly 120 years in the history of the
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world series, it does underscore that difficulty. it is the first combined no hitter in the world series but the starter is the incredible spores most under-appreciated stars. he was undrafted from the dominican republic. he was pegs add an outfielder and signed a $10,000 contract as a 16-year-old and all the way to the biggest stage. his parents before the game pitched and said got willing you'll throw a no-hitter and that is what he did. and including five in a row before you burned it over to the bull pen and ryan presley slamming the door shut in the ninth. just incredible. the astros second combined no hitter of the season. we're seeing more of those in the regular season. the other was also started back by javier in june. but remarkable to do it at the world series. >> he's electric. and, you know, he did ball up
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and down and thshows you that t best pitcher in baseball could do a fastball. and he was calm and cool and that is why we wants javi pitching that fourth game. and you know, i mean the guy was cool as if it was june or july. and that is how he is. >> remacal composure for such a young player. game five tonight in philly. and nets guard kyrie irving is taking responsibility for the way his recent tweet negatively impacting the jewish community. not an apology but a mea culpa, a little bit of damage control here. the post promoted a documentary that had anti-semitic themes and he said he opposed all fors of hatred and oppression and aware of the negative impact that the
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post had the injujewish communi and on top of that and the nets organization pledged $500,000 to the anti-defamation league and kyrie is yet to face any discipline from the team and the nba which some people are calling for. they don't think that this is enough. >> carolyn manno, thank you so much. and thank you for joining us today. i'm jim sciutto. "at this hour" with kate bolduan starts right after a short break. look at that freshly sliced turkey! at jersey mike's there's some things you just gotta see. like those lovebirds over there. mhmm m mmmmm. that's deep p eatin'. sliced right in front ofof you. it's a jersey mike's thing. where do we even start our house search? the house whisperer! this house says start with deep search filters on realtor.com. and all the missing sos, are behind the dryer. realtor.com. to each their home. imagine having to use the wrong tool at your job.
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hello, everyone. at this hour, democracy on the ballot. part of joe biden's closing arguments now for the midterms. are voters listening? plus what parns in uvalde want every responding officer to sit and listen