thanks so much for joining us tonight. you can follow me on facebook, instagram and twitter @jaketapper. that's right, i deleted tiktok. i did. tomorrow actress carrie washington is going to be here, working to get voters out to the polls. our coverage now continues with luminous laura coates and awesome alisyn cam rata. i deleted to tiktok, i did it because national security experts kept coming on the show and saying delete the tiktok, the communist chinese government controls it, they have access to everything so i did. >> where will you be lip-syncing and dancing tomorrow? >> i don't do that. i never did that anyway. >> aw, me thinks the lady

doth protest too much. i know you did not. >> what? >> i never had tiktok but i was up on the tiktok so i was looking at it and would see it but i never did anything with it. i don't feel that bad any longer if it's going to be going away any time soon. >> it's kind of dumb because i just feel like everybody's surveilling me on my phone now anyway. that's why the whole thing about chips and the vaccines is so stupid. bill gates doesn't need to put chips in your body. all these people follow you around on your phone. that said national security people kept saying delete it, delete it, so i deleted it. >> if jake has a feeling that lots of people are watching him it's because it's true. >> nice, very nice. >> but i don't know, jake, you're thrusting me into a moral conundrum as usual because maybe now i should do that. >> i'm not telling what to do.

i just want to explain to everyone watching why i say you can no longer follow me on the tiktok because i don't gots the tiktok no more. >> and you've also lost the queens english i see. >> i do whatever you do, so i guess by the end of this show i might do that, too. >> by awesome, ladies. >> see you later and good evening, everyone. i'm laura coates in washington. >> and i'm alisyn cam rata in new york. this is "cnn tonight." political hitters like president biden to donald trump they're all out on the campaign trail as we speak tonight and election deniers they're also out there, too. senator ron johnson says he will not commit to accepting the results of his own race. he says he wants to see how it all plays out. i mean is it 2020 all over again, alisyn? >> it's never stopped being 2020, unfortunately. plus in a moment, laura, i'm going to introduce transportation secretary pete

buttigieg whether president biden's closing argument about democracy in danger is working. >> it's five days -- five days to go until the most important elections in our lifetime. and that's not hyperbole, it's going to shape what the next two generations look like. not a joke because so much is changing, so much. it's clear this is not a referendum. this is a choice, a choice between two vastly different visions of america. >> joining me now is transportation secretary pete buttigieg. mr. secretary, thank you so much for being with us. great to see you tonight. >> thanks for having me on. >> so mid-terms less than a week away. as you know the republicans' message seems to be crime is bad, inflation is high. and those are i think simple for voters to get their heads around. president biden's closing message is basically that democracy is in peril, which is powerful but less tangible. do you think that's the most

effective message for president biden? >> well, look, we're walking and chewing gum at the same time in this administration. and, you know, from a policy perspective we've got to -- and we want to talk about the economy as well as our democracy. it is incredibly important to defend our democracy because democracy is what makes america america. if we lose it, we're just another country. but it's also important to do the right thing for our economy especially with inflation and prices as high as they are. >> well, i hear you but in terms of messaging i think that president biden by our count mentioned the economy and inflation once last night but mentioned democracy and democracy being in peril and possibly losing it many, many times. so just in terms of messaging should he be saying more of what you just said? >> well, again, we're doing both. the president decided to give a speech about democracy, which is

a very important topic, and most of the time when you see him speak you'll be seeing him talk a lot about the economy because that's an important topic. i mean the idea that you have to pick one when, you know, we're at a moment where the american people strongly believe in the things we're doing is -- i don't think it makes any sense to say we have to do one to the exclusion of the others. we are passionate about an economic policy that is focused on cutting costs for every day families. we're also passionate about democracy, which shouldn't be a partisan issue. it shouldn't require being a democrat or krpen to say if you're running in an election you've got to be prepared to abide by the results of the election just like there should be nothing partisan about universal, swift condemnation and nothing else when it comes to an assassination attempt on a member of a family of a political figure in this country no matter what party they come from. >> given everything you've laid out, all the accomplishments of the biden administration from

infrastructure to the inflation reduction act, why aren't democrats polling better? >> well, look, i think we're a country that's facing a lot of headwinds, and i don't get up in the morning and study what the polls are. we get up in the morning and go out there to solve problems for the american people. but what we have found in terms of public satisfaction and public expectations is that the american people agree with us and disagree with republicans when it comes to the congressional republican agenda to go after social security and medicare. americans agree with us that allowing medicare to negotiate prescription drug prices was the right thing to do. they disagree with congressional republicans who voted with big pharma on social issues. the american people agree with us that roe v. wade was the right framework or at least the best framework that we had and disagree with the effort -- the increasingly successful effort

by congressional republicans and their appointees to take away a woman's right to choose. and, you know, on issue after issue this administration in our actions, in our policies is better aligned with the american people than anything we're seeing put forward by the other side. and i do think it is important for us to be leaning in on the issues a lot of our critics raise whether it's inflation, immigration or safety because if you take one moment to cut through the rhetoric turns out they're not really putting forward any solutions or ideas. >> okay, let's talk thanksgiving travel. so in this just released data airline passenger complaints were up 320% in just the month of august. that's compared to pre-pandemic levels. so what's the problem, and what's being done to fix that? >> that's right. we had terrible cancellations and delays across the system over the summer, which led to our offices receiving record numbers of complaints from

travelers who had been stuck, canceled or delayed. several times that included me. several times after having conversations about how they were dealing with this issue we wake up and find my own flight delayed or canceled. i think a lot of that has been because of steps we have been urging airlines to take because of more realistic scheduling and continuing to push on hiring and staffer, we're better off than we were this summer. i am concerned as we're headed into thanksgiving travel we're not completely out of the woods and need to push to ensure we have an aviation system that can handle all this demand. i would add our department created a dashboard because we found that transparency is one of the things that seems to have a very powerful effect on the airline's behavior and their choices. so you can see side by side comparison how the different airlines will respond, how they'll treat you if they do

have an issue, will they get you a voucher for a hotel or meal, offer to put you on another airline in order to get you on your way inyou can go to our website to see what they'll do. if they don't follow the rules especially on refunds you can go to our website to file a complaint and we will have your back. >> transportation secretary pete buttigieg, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> really interesting interview, alisyn, the idea, first of all, thank god i'll be home for thanksgiving but the travel troubles continue. everyone's thinking about this especially because people have spent the better part of two years and more for a chance to truly reunite and last year was part of it, but now you have this again. >> wellturb it sounds like they're on top of it. it sounds like they're dealing with the airlines how to speed things up and they're aware of the problem. in terms of what he's saying about the mid-terms i thought it was interesting to hear his message versus president biden's message because what secretary buttigieg says are demonstrably true, i mean democrats have done

all those things. but for voters as we know from our voter panels and everyone we talk to the idea of crime is just more visceral and, i guess, in their real lives and in their imaginations more tangible and intense. so it's just everything he's saying is true. i just don't know if infrastructure people feel as strongly about. >> i mean certainly you can only make so many attack ads about infrastructure that are going to resonate as opposed to of course thinking about crime and people have a visceral reaction to the idea of not feeling safe. as much as we talk about the theoretical which is democracy safe, people are more concerned what they see time and time again. i want to talk to my panel and see what they think about this, alisyn. cnn's john berman here, ashley allison, brenden buck, a former top aide to ryan and john boehner. on that idea she mentioned where

things stand in terms of the messaging. listen to what president biden had to say when he was asked whether or not his message was getting through democrats, just a quick one. listen. >> mr. president, is your messaging getting through to american voters? >> yes. >> is it that simple? yes and thumbs up. is that it, are we done? no conversation? >> he has like four or five messages and this is basic political politics 101. you have to hammer a message over and over again. and in the final weeks he's talking about democracy, talking about cutting social security out of number, talking about abortion. he's all over the place. what he's not talking about as much is the economy, the by far number one issue. so you're not even on the playing field on the one issue most people have said this is what i'm going to vote about. >> out of nowhere you've got senator rick scott and senator ron johnson talking about the

prospect of having to vote on these issues. >> biden hasn't talked about social security in months. that came out over the summer, we talked about it a bit and it went away, and now he's trying to revive it in the last minute. any political operative will tell you it can take a month or two to move voters to get message penetration. i'm more surprised he hasn't figured out a good economic message overall because that is what people have said i'm voting on the economy, and right now they're saying they trust republicans more than democrats on this issue. >> but, john, he said yes. >> what else is he going to say. i don't know, or maybe. gosh, pete buttigieg is interesting to me. for one thing it was a weary pete buttigieg there. he looked a bit sleepy. maybe because he has twins, young twins. a tired parent and i get that. it seemed as if he was tired

trying to make the case that the administration is talking about the economy. did he see how he got that word economy in? within the first ten words the question is about democracy and secretary buttigieg is, yeah, we're also doing the economy. he's trying and biden has tried to get that economic message out there. they're trying to wedge it in because it is by far the number one issue. but i will say this with the democracy thing i don't think it should surprise any of us that joe biden is finishing up an election going back to democracy. it is absolutely the issue which got him into the presidential race to begin with. it was charlottesville. >> he talk about battling for the soul of the nation, battling for democracy. >> that's why i think he may run for re-election if trump runs again. i think biden will run again because he sees himself as that last barrier between trump coming back. he thinks he's -- of donald

trump. >> listen to what ron johnson had to say today. he's fighting for the notion not everyone running is saying you know what, the results be them as they may, i'm going to standby them. listen to what senator johnson said. it was pretty iffy as they say. >> i sure hope i can, but i can't predict what the democrats might have planned. you know, we're not trying to do anything to gain partisan advantage. we're just doing whatever we can to restore confidence. it sure seems like there's an awful lot -- in the past a lot of attempt on the part of the democrats to make it easier to cheat. we want to make it easier to vote and very hard to cheat. >> ashley, on that given statements like this is that more of a persuasive reason for president biden to be focusing on democracy in peril over say highlighting the economy, maybe crime, roe-vember as they say? >> i don't think president biden is talking ability it all and i think he should because i don't

think -- i think we are beyond the single issue voter days of our country, and i think that people want to talk about multiple issues because people have multiple things going on in their lives. i do think because of what a kari lake, a ron johnson, you know the two thirds of republicans on the ballot that are election deniers, it is a requirement for the president to talk about the state of our democracy. that should not be a republican issue or a democratic issue. it is -- we just need to speak facts. the people who are guarding drop boxes are not democrats. they're proud boys. they're oath keepers. they're people who identify as maga republicans, and we need to name a thing a thing, and regardless of what letter you have by your name or what person you want to vote for we cannot stand for the crumbling of our democracy. and what could potentially happen in 2020 -- excuse me,

2022 what happened january 6th in 2021. >> we've had this conversation before about the thought it's just democrats concerned about a democracy in peril, but we've talked about this in the past and it seems to be both republicans and democrats according to the way it's structured are fearful of democracy being in challenge and being in peril but for different reasons. you've got democrats saying, look, i'm concerned some are election deniers, you've got republicans saying, no, no, i'm concerned you're going to steal the election. same end result conclusion but from very different perspectives. you wonder is this hitting it with voters? is that what they're thinking about before election day or what to worry about next wednesday. >> you're so right they do define it differently as you just heard from senator ron johnson. my question is what's berman doing in d.c.? is he avoiding me?

>> do you want to tell her? >> there's this big election i'm told that's happening i don't know when it is four days, five days. keep doing the count down every ten minutes. there's an election. i'm down here to get ready for the election. >> wow, you're getting in position really early. >> i'm not choosing -- it's a referendum. it's not a choice. >> i think your friendship is in peril. >> you're right, laura, because there he is in d.c. >> i don't know how to put it. >> more on that later, but meanwhile as democrats nervously eye election day, are they losing latino voters? that's next. its non-habit forming andd powered by the makers of nyquil.

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politicians in battleground states across this country are competing for the latino vote. here's what some of those key voters have been telling cnn reporters who have been out on the trail. >> i think latinos we don't care really much what you say. it's what are you going to do, right? so many people are tired of politicians that just speak but don't act. either they talk to their base, they talk to the rioter, they talk to the left, but they don't come in and talk to us.

they don't see what we're doing on a daily basis. >> translator: biden promised many things but i feel like he hasn't delivered. and the other party, i don't know much about it. >> i want to bring in the author of "the emerging democratic majority," which predicted demographic trends would lead to democrats dominating american politics. i'm glad you're here. listen, you just heard from a few people on these issues but it seemed as though there was enough to go between both parties. it wasn't as if it was focused on democrats or republicans. republicans might have an advantage of developing more latino voters under their big tent. why? >> i think really what's happening is something that i think some of the people interviewed got at is i think hispanic voters are tired of, you know, the democrats in a sense taking them for granted, thinking of them as people of

color or thinking of them as immigration voters or thinking of them as sort of automatic democrats. and their attitude definitely is at this point what have you done for me lately? you know, from the polling data they don't think biden's had the right priorities for the country. they disapprove of his economic management by about 30 points and on and on. and just seemed like the biden administration may have passed a bunch of legislation, but in terms of the actual day to day lives hispanic voters lead, they don't feel he's produced much and also feel he's at the helm of a party that's moved to the left culturally in a way that isn't really consistent with the way these voters are coming from who are moderate to conservative on social issues, and it seems like democrats are the party of the liberal college educated these days and i don't think that sits well with a lot of these voters. >> it might seem counter intuitive to people when you say latino voters might be discouraged being considered people of color because, well, they are people of color as mostly defined in the united

states of america, and yet the idea i think you're getting at is the notion of being treated as a monolith, as in, hey, i know by virtue of your culture exactly how you're going to vote and what issues are the most prioritized by you. and that's where you say democrats are failing in particular. look, i'm a black woman voter from the midwest originally. i understand the idea of being treated as a monolith and prompromp presumptions being made. why do you think democrats have done or failed to acknowledge the nuance in a way that would resonate with more voters? >> well, i think in some ways it's just very comforting to think of things that way. i think there was a theory of the case democrats have had for a number of years, and i think some people blame it on my book, but we definitely did think the growth of the non-white population was a boom for the democrats in electoral terms though we always cautioned you couldn't take it for granted and

also there are other parts of the electorate like the white working class you have to continue to do well on. i do think it was a bit of a lazy assumption and a comforting assumption that hispanics no matter what come hell or high-water would continue to vote democrats because they have have a long time because the other party is so awful. i think we're seeing that assumption wasn't as valid as people thought. look, donald trump won for the second time as president in 2020 after an administration many people thought would totally disqualify him in the eyes of hispanic voters, and yet, you know, the democrats advantage among those voters declined by 16 points relative to 2016. in other words, there's a huge move -- a huge move toward trump among these voters despite having experienced trump's first term. so that just tells you a little something about where hispanic voters are coming from these days. they don't want to be thought of as automatic democrats. they're ordinary, patriotic,

hardworking americans for whose vote you have to work hard. and they don't feel like the democrats have produced for them. >> we'll see how that pans out next week. there's quite a few questions to be answered and asked by both republicans and democrats on this very point. thank you for your insight. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> alisyn, the word that sticks out in my mind is the assumption, the ashusumptions being made or taken for granted. oh, you know what i need not go to your state because i've got it in the bag. if that's what's happening for democrats or republicans or anyone, it might be a rude awakening next week on both sides. >> well, let's dive into that a little further. we have the perfect panel to discuss this so let's bring in scott jennings, david axelrod, and david navarro. great to have you guys here. tim of the atlantic has written a long piece on this, and i want to read one passage of it and

get your response. in the past few years hispanics have begun abandoning the democratic party, causing varying degrees of panic on the left. in the 2018 mid-term elections democrats regained control of the house of representatives. they won the hispanic vote by 40 points nationally. this summer numerous polls showed hispanics splitting in a statistical tie between the two parties. even if such findings are exaggerated, it's evident the republicans are poised next week to win their biggest share of hispanics in the modern era. what has happened in the past four years? >> well, i really appreciate being among the whitest people in the world to discuss this issue. but, look it's a very complex answer, and part of the reason it's a complex answer is because the hispanic community and the united states is a complex community. and people have a really hard time understanding the priorities and interests of the cuban american community is very different from the chicano

community, different from the puerto rican community. they want us all to care about immigration. they want to define us all as a hemeo genus blob, and hispanics resent that. we're not latinx, we're not this, not that. we're all different because we live in different parts of a country, we come from different countries in latin america. we have different interests. we're different people. and for some reason politicians have a really hard time understanding that. look, hispanics pay taxes, too. hispanics suffer through inflation, too. hispanics care about foreign relations, too. hispanics care about afghanistan. it's not just immigration. it's not just english only. it's not just those narrow issues that people want to define hispanics as. >> david, how did democrats screw this up? >> well, i think arrogance. i think the word assumption is the right word. i mean i don't think laura said,

you know, -- talked about noig erring. i don't think you should ignore parts of the country where you think people are not going to support you or ignore constituencies because you take them for granted. i also think that the nuances, you know we say the hispanic community. there are hispanic communities, and they're distinct and different. and one of the things about that tim alberta piece so important was that he was in south florida, he was in south texas, he was in arizona. and there are commonalities about working class sensibilities, social moderation and so on, but there are also differences and to communism, for example, in south florida. these are nuances that should be understood. >> and something the obama administration, the obama campaign did really well when you were running it. because, look, i'm old enough to remember when they would have somebody with a dominican accent

narrating radio ads in south florida which would be like having somebody from kentucky narrating a radio ad in massachusetts. you know, that's what the difference is. >> i would say i spend a lot of time in massachusetts and they find my accent to be -- >> they're clamoring for you. i love to make ads. and actually it's interesting. i started to cut my teeth in chicago politics and i used to have to use a columbian voice-over because if i used someone with a mexican accent it would offend the puerto rico population. if i used someone from the puerto rican population it would offend the mexicans. there's a word i would like to throw out here i think is important for democrats which is respect. you can translate it. respect. and i think that is true in terms of how democrats relate to friendly constituencies or constituencies they think are friendly but also how they relate to white working class

voters around the country. people want to feel respected. >> what are we doing that's making them feel respect ed? >> there was a quote in the alberta piece and he said these immigrants came here to make money and keep their families safe. what is the republican message in this election? you're being economically disadvantaged by the biden administration and they're not keeping your neighborhoods safe because of the national crime wave. so the two things that person was speaking to was essentially the republican campaign. i think anna, though, lay laid out a powerful concept in politics in that you can't treat people as though they're only allowed to care about one thing. i if told you you can care about one thing and one thing only and if you disagree with me, i'd disregard you, you wouldn't feel kindly. i can see why they're gravitating and i also think the other night we were on and you talk about the outreach the

national republican committee has done, talking to people, you're seeing that in a lot of different states and i think it's been quite successful. so economy and crime, the republican campaign speaks to -- >> i'll tell you something, the biden administration sucks at tooting their own horn. i told them this to their own face. look, they've done things like issued temporary protective status for venezuelans, which is a very big deal for the hispanic community. but they don't toot their own horn. donald trump did very little things. a lot of it was smoke and mirrors but anytime something was done they'd be down in miami and there'd be a big event and they'd be at the freedom tower and they'd be all these people clapping, and those things matter. >> i agree what the republican message is, scott. but i also agree with you. the fact is helping people, making health care accessible is a real tangible thing. that helps improve people's

lives, making higher education more available. yes, i think you have to make that case. but i mean it's not enough to say the biden administration has made your life worse. >> this much i can tell you, the answer what's happening with the latino vote is not going to be determined in an eight-minute segment on cnn. it is a very difficult, complex -- >> we need other segment. >> i can see what you guys are aiming for, another segment. and i think you're going to get one. thank you all. so far you are. all right, former president obama was heckled last night and on saturday, twice. in fact he's been heckled a lot but he's turning the heckling back on the hecklers. we'll explain why he's getting heckled so much and how he's dealing with it.

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former president obama is hitting the trail hard this mid-term season and he's getting right back with multiple hecklers at his rallies. but obama's not letting hecklerhecklers have the last word. just listen. >> sir, sir, this is what i'm saying. look, there's a process we setup in our democracy. right now i'm talking. you'll have a chance to talk some time. this is part of the point i want to make. just basic civility and courtesy works. and that's what we want to try to encourage. do we have another person yelling at me?

is that what you're doing? no, no, we don't have to chant. it'll be all right. where was i? see, cause they're -- wait, wait, wait. i was getting to a good part here and you're about to be distracted again. remember what i said now, don't be like that -- squirrel, squirrel. don't be distracted. i was making an important point here. young man, just listen for a second. you know you have to be polite and civil when people are talking when other people are talking and then you get a chance to talk.

setup your own rally. a lot of people worked hard for this. come on, man. >> back with us john berman, ashley allison, and brandon buck. this is the former president of the united states. he's getting heckled this way. is he handling it effectively? is the larger issue translating? >> i thought it was quaint, like throwback to when -- that's what incivility used to look like. it reminds i spent most of my years on capitol hill trying to give barack obama a hard time. it wasn't that long ago we had fights around calling people bad names and we had that storming the capitol. i think he handled it really well. >> what do you guys think? ashley? >> he knows how to handle a crowd and i think it is important for a former president -- i wish all of them would rise to the occasion and try and bring civility back into this country. we follow our leaders. young people are looking -- a

whole new generation is being introduced to barack obama on this campaign trail, and how you show up matters and i think he did the best as possible. >> it beats telling other people in the crowd to beat the guy up, the likes of which we've seen before. so certainly handling that from the stage was better. i will say the larger point he was making was don't get distracted by the anger. and that's where he may run into a problem there. i think obama doesn't want people to focus on mean tweets, doesn't want to focus on some of the anger that's out there in this way and sort of look maybe above it and talk about bigger things. but if you ignore it you sometimes let it fester. >> i mean tell a baby not to cry. right, alisyn. i certainly call my son squirrel, because he's like, squirrel. john's right the notion of i don't know people can be told focus when there are so many obvious distractions intended to

muddy the waters. >> i just like the message setup your own rally. i feel that's a good motto for all of us. oh, yeah, setup your own rally. so it's very signature obama as brenden was saying. quaint. imagine civility, politeness and quaintness. >> what is this era you speak of? is jimmy stewart coming soon? >> that's right. i think it's a good aspiration for all of mus meanwhile tonight the justice department deciding whether they'll need a special council if donald trump runs for president again. laura will t tell us what that means next.

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and protect california kids. vote yes on proposition 31. we have a cnn exclusive now. justice department officials are discussing whether a donald trump run in 2024 would require

a special council to oversee the two big federal investigations involving trump. we've also learned that the justice department is staffing up so they can be prepared for whatever decisions come after the mid-terms including whether or not to indict a former president. but why would a special council be necessary? if only we had someone we could ask. oh, it turns out that the laura coates worked in the justice department as a federal prosecutor. so, laura, help us understand why -- what would a special prosecutor do? >> well, really it would essentially try to insulate the doj from having accusations they were trying to if trump were to run and assuming that president biden runs for re-election, to try to tape down and tamper down the accusation of trying to investigate his main political rival, the idea of the politicization of the department of justice is part of what the credibility hits have been about year after year. so this idea of a special

council being someone who could be removed from the politics of it that's the theory and be judged as a truly neutral being. of course we all lived through the claims against a special counsel muller, for example. it's not guaranteed it would totally isolate them from criticism. >> who would choose that special counsel? who's that mythical person gnat has no political ties or, you know, back story whatsoever? >> it's a unicorn that would have to come in, alison, who has no political ties to essentially talk about this. it would be the questions merrick garland would have to answer to. he'd be the chief prosecutor in the land, so the decision to essentially outsource the responsibility of overseeing it in this way would come from somebody having to, one, acknowledge that, look, the perception might be king, that people might view this in a way that gives them not enough cover so having to outsource it that way. and also saying, look, fine, i want this to be a truly

transparent process, having that decision be made. it's not set in stone yet, alisyn, but can you imagine if we've had the same arguments we've had for about four years about witch hunts, and this is a way to weaponize the doj. they're hoping to avoid that. i don't know that it can be done and unring the bell, but that would be one step forward. >> i feel like regardless of who they choose or what path they go down there will be accusations of witch hunts. >> of course. >> if i know our history. laura, thanks for helping us understand that. okay, next, kyrie irving now suspended without play from the brooklyn nets for tweeting a link to an anti-semitic film. but, wait, there's much more tonight. >> more. president biden signed the inflation reduction act into law this afternoon. ok, so what exactly does it mean for you?

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brooklyn nets tonight for a minimum of five games. this is days after he tweeted a link to a documentary that has been criticized as antisemitic, and then defended his decision to do so. here's what he had to say today. >> we wanted to hear the word -- i apologize. i did not mean to cause any harm. >> i did not mean to cause any harm, i did not make the documentary. >> the nets issuing a statement that, such failure to disavow antisemitism when given the opportunity to do so is against the values of our organization, and constitutes conduct at metal to the team. >> yesterday irving and the anti-defamation league released a joint statement that said the irving and the mets will donate half 1 million dollars to

organizations that eradicate hate. >> tonight the atl is saying no thank you. the adl president, jonathan greenblatt said, the atl cannot in good conscience except the donation. they are returning a half million dollar donation certainly makes a statement. it is interesting, basically he said, in addition to what we just play there, i take full responsibility. for posting something on my instagram or twitter for having some unfortunate falsehoods and it. he was saying that he takes responsibility, but he could not say, basically i denounce antisemitism. >> it had some unfortunate falsehoods. you could pick a part every part of that pseudo-apology, it has the air of, i am sorry you feel that way. i am sorry that you are upset by what i said. the opportunity to simply say i apologize, and it was not just the words i am sorry, it would be the sentiment to demonstrate that you actually believe that this was wrong. it is unfortunate because my

nine-year-old boy, he loves basketball. he loves all the players, studies them, and he is watching it and asking me questions about antisemitism, learning about the social issues. these horrors and tragedies, because they are so loosely coming off the mouths of those that so many idolized. so imagine the opportunity to have the platform to say something and denounce what is horrible, and you just say i did not mean any harm by it. i do not know what one thinks. >> well, a teachable moment for a children as you pointed out there. let us know what you think about this whole situation, and anything else that we have been talking out about tonight. you can tweet us at laura coats and allison camerota. we will be right back. (groan) (growling) (chuckle) ...you should check out inspire. nono mask. no hose. just sleep. (beeping) learn more and view important safety inforormation at inspiresleep.com.

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five days, laura. count them. five days until election day and the biggest names in politics are crisscrossing the country this week trying to make their final campaign pitch. >> we are talking about a handful of key races that coul