candidates have one last day to campaign before election day. watch the special election night coverage starting at 4:00 p.m. eastern time. we'll have up to the minute results and key races from coast-to-coast. john king will have the political laws and america can decides who will have control of the house and senate for the next two years. the news continues with dana bash and abby phillip for "election week in america." good evening, everyone. i'm dana bash. >> i'm abby phillip. this is "election week in america." we're less than 40 hours from election day and they will be counting the votes in the most

consequential midterms in our lifetimes. >> more than 40 million ballots have been cast nationwide and the senate will be a nail biter. democrats are hoping they can preserve their narrow majority there and in a sign of the times for democrats, president joe biden whose agenda is on the line is campaigning tonight in new york. new york. one of the country's bluest states where democrats are struggling to keep the governor's mansion. >> we all know in our bones our democracy is at risk. if you-all show up and vote, democracy sustained. >> the gop is feeling optimistic tonight. the momentum is theirs but they are also trying to sure up some key battle grounds which is why former president trump spent the weekend in the great commonwealth of pennsylvania and tonight, he was in miami campaigning for marco rubio. we have a lot to discuss tonight and we'll get started with a look at the midterms and the state of play. we have democratic strategists

and scott jennings and paul with us. hi, guys, thanks for joining us. >> good evening. >> good evening. so first rule of the table, no predictions. [ laughter ] >> only horse races. >> but i do want to start with the state of play because i think this say bit of a roller coaster of a midterms. paul, i'll start with you. tell us what you're seeing out there. what is the dynamic that you think is driving us in these last 48 hours? >> the dynamic changed. right? when seven or eight out of ten americans are unhappy with the direction of the country and you add the president's approval rate is low and inflation is high, we were looking going into the cycle a massive red wave and two things intervened, the two most valuable players, sam alito and donald trump. the dobbs decision takes away a woman's right to choose.

women have been relaying on that for 49 years. women are not happy. trump finds some that even mcconnell says lack quality. this should be a landslide for the republicans to find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. i know that's not a prediction. >> anyone else's predictions? >> look, i'll take the other side of the coin here. republicans are very optimistic about -- start with the house. i've been bullish on this for two years and for the last six weeks, people have -- the numbers i'm hearing from key strategists around the country are going up and up and up. we may be in 25, 30 seat territory. if they get over 30, it would be one of the biggest majorities republicans had in a long time. on the senate side, i think the worst republicans could do is 50. back where we are now. it seems to me like nevada is in good shape but these other races that are still hanging out there have, you know, i don't know,

pennsylvania, georgia, i think herschel walker will be leading on election night. whether he clears the bar for a runoff or not i don't know. there is cautious optimism on the senate but the macros look really good. >> can i go back to one of the things paul said and i want to ask you since you're a pollster. you look at numbers as a republican. do you agree still right now the abortion issue is that much of a driver? >> it certainly gives democratic voters more of a reason to turn out and in a year where they had previously been trailing republicans on the enthusiasm question but a sizable amount, it closed that gap. but what we are seeing in the last week or two is gravity reasserting itself again. the gravity of you're the party out of power. the gravity of the economy is bad. the gravity of people aren't really a big fan of the president right now and all of those forces just like gravity, you can jump but you come right back down. >> i also want to point out the quality of the candidates on the

republican side. a lot of what president obama has done on the campaign trail painted this picture of a contrast between what democrats are going to provide and how they are experienced candidates and what republicans are going to do if they're in office and especially, specific traits that each of these republican candidates have. he said before in georgia, herschel walker are you really going to trust him to make decisions for yourself? you wouldn't necessarily trust him to fly a plane, right? he was a great football player but not necessarily going to be a great senator. so i think the personalities on inflation and issues voters are facing, the quality candidates are terrible and gives democrats an opportunity. >> on that point, i want to play this because this is an interesting development. president biden and president obama have been campaigning on this issue of democracy. herschel walker took that issue and turned it on its face. i want to play you what this

contrast looks like for voters if you're in the state of georgia. >> you heard the president the biggest threat to democracy is to vote for somebody in the republican party. is he crazy? the biggest threat to a democracy is to have him in the white house. is it not? >> i'm not joking. with these election deniers, there are only two outcomes for any election, either they win or they were cheated. i'm serious. think about it. let me tell you something. you can't only love the country when you win. >> so paul, i think to me the question here is this really the right message especially since you see what herschel walker did with it, he kind of turned it on its head and rendered it meaningless. >> i disagree. i don't think herschel walker has an effective answer to anything. if he does, it's a stupid question. the country, we fight about issues all the time. jennings and i, we fight about taxes or crime or trade.

this is thousands and thousands of people, some of my family lying in honor gave their lives and others have given their limbs for our democracy and some on the fringe, including mr. trump the leader of the party are undermining that democracy. if that's not worth running on, nothing is. this is not just another fight about taxes. >> on that note, i spoke with the republican national committee chairwoman ronna mcdaniel and asked about the notion of republicans accepting the election results unlike the white house in 2020. listen to what she said. >> you should have a recount. you should have a canvass and it will go to the courts and everybody should accept the results. that's what it should be. i'm also not going to say if there are problems we shouldn't be able to address that. if there is real problems, everyone should be able to address that and i think ron johnson and stacey abrams in the

end once all their avenues are exhausted, they'll exceaccept t results. >> scott, do you think she's right? >> yeah, i think people will avail themselves of whatever process exists and, you know, and it's different state by state. that's perfectly fine. any democrat tic republican -- >> the question is after it's certified, after all of the process -- all the processes have been exhausted. >> let's see. >> like what we saw in 2020. >> i hope everybodycepts that a loses accepts that. you can't avail yourself. now, this candidate quality business, this has been the narrative the entire cycle. i'm sorry, look around this map. patty murray, cortez -- >> scott. mitch mcconnell is the one -- >> wait, wait, you talked about barack obama -- >> barack obama talking about i wouldn't hire herschel walker to fly a plane. was he going to hire john

fetterman? is he entertaining the conversation? >>fetterman has a record. he's making a point there are celebrity candidates that don't necessarily translate into policy makers and i'm sorry, yes, the reason why democrats have a chance is because there are strong candidates in these states even with inflation and everything that is going on. >> you guys are spending millions of dollars in washington state and you're telling me you got the highest quality candidate out there? tiffany smiley is the super star of this cycle. that's why -- so in terms of candidate quality, come on. some of these democrats, it ain't the 27 yankees. >> i disagree with you but okay. >> one of the candidates not very high quality is this republican candidate for governor in wisconsin mr. michaels. last week he said this. quote, republicans will never lose another election in wisconsin after i'll m elected governor. oh? oh? that's not just bad quality but

the point of dana's question, do you believe in democracy? he's not saying i'll have better policies on schools and roads, he said if i win, we will have power forever more. that's calling for dictatorship. >> that is absolutely not what that wrote means. >> i'm literally reading it to you. >> that means we'll do a good sn enough job governing -- >> you could just as likely make the same argument as i made. that is a deeply uncharitable. >> they stormed the capitol. good god these people don't believe in democracy. >> so look, at the beginning of this block, we opened up the show by saying this is arguably the most important midterm of our lifetimes. is it not the case that every midterm voters hear that, that every mid material voters hear this is the most important election of our lifetime. >> i never heard a politician say if i win the other guys don't have a chance again. >> it sounds like this is just another election. >> to counter your argument, paul, i would also say that what joe biden and a lot of democrats

are saying that if a single republican wins an election, the democracy will go away. you can't have democracy if republicans win. the ruling party is your party. you control everything and the message is voters have to vote for the ruling party or the country's constitution -- >> i just read the quote from the candidate of governor from wisconsin. >> he said it repeatedly. >> there is a difference between people -- there are a lot of republicans that believe the election was not stolen. >> i'm one of them. >> there are definitely choices within the republican universe in which that's the case. >> here is good news. we have an hour and 50 minutes to keep talking about all of these but we have to pay some bills so stick around because the sprint to the finish is on. can democrats hold the senate? talking a lot about that. we'll put that question to our next guest. senator gary peters, the chair of the democratic senate campaign committee charged with electing senate democrats plus, former president trump drops a very large hint tonight about

his plans for 2024. >> and now in order to make our country successful, safe and glorious, i will probably have to do it again, but stay tuned. stay tuned to tomorrow night in the great state of ohio. stay tuned. we have a big -- we have a big rally there.

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with grim pros sppects for democrats to hold the house, can the democrats keep the razor thin majority in the senate? joining me is gary peters of michigan, the chair of the democratic senate campaign committee charged with electing democrats this cycle and all cycles. this is your lucky year, senator. i want to start with the map where we see income bkcumbent ds who are particularly vulnerable. arizona, new hampshire and georgia. which of those democrats or colleagues are you most worried about losing on tuesday? >> well, i'm confident we're going to win all of those races. clearly, they're very close. all of them are going to come right down to the wire. i think you can put all of them in that category about making sure we turn out voters.

at the dscc we invested unprecedented amounts of resources in the get out the vote effort. we knew the races would be extremely close and battle ground states nationally and by definition, a battle ground state will be a very close election and i would have told you that a year and a half ago if you asked me the question are these going to be close races? i'd say of course they are. that's why we have turnout operation that i'm very confident will end up with us winning all those four races. my job as the chair is number one is to bring back all of our incomekcome -- incumbents and we do that, we'll be at 50 with the majority. >> last week chuck schumer was caught on a hot microphone saying pennsylvania is looking good. you're picking up steam in nevada but going downhill in georgia. is that where you see the race right now about a week later? >> no, not at all.

no. >> where do you see it? >> georgia is a race that we will win. it will be a very tight race. we always expected that to happen but we've seen a race that's stabilized and what we're seeing on the ground, we've got unprecedented numbers of folks who are doing early voting right now. ballots are actually in. we know those ballots are great ballots for us that are coming in. a lot of dell mocrats are turni out the vote. the get out the vote operation is getting what it's supposed to do. >> are you winning out right or will there be a runoff? >> very close. out right. there is a good shot it will be out right but regardless, we're going to end up winning in the end. >> senator, there are two states with open republican seats. ohio and north carolina. do you have any regrets about not investing more in those two for potential pickups? >> well, we do have the very great candidates in both of those states running strong.

>> but your investment? >> as far as our investment. we certainly have made investments into both of those states. we have been working, raising money for both of the candidates, both of them are great. i will say, though, in terms of what we do at the d.s., as i mentioned already, my number one job is to bring incomekcumbents. my focus is making sure we hold our 50 but we have made investments in both ohio and north carolina. those are great pickup opportunities with great candidates and they have been able to raise substantial amounts of money themselves and i'm very confident they have a great shot at winning. >> listen to what hilary rosen a long-time democratic strategists worked to help elect many democrats over the years. listen to what she told me on "state of the union" this morning. >> i'm a loyal democrat but i am not happy. i just think that we are -- we did not listen to voters in this election and i think we're going

to have a bad night. when voters tell you over and over and over again that they care mostly about the economy, listen to them. stop talking about democracy being at stake. >> is she right? did your party miss the mark this cycle on messaging? >> actually, i think if you look at the battle ground states, if you look at our incomekcumbents candidates they have focused on the economy. certainly, there are a number of issues they will deal with but looking how do we reduce cost for folks when we see global inflation, this inflation problem is all across the globe and democrats, we have actually put forward ways to bring down the cost for families. the fact that in our inflation reduction act that we allow medicare to negotiate with drug companies which will bring down the price of prescription drugs, something that put a huge strain on our seniors. and it's going to be an important contrast, not one republican voted to reduce

prescription drug costs for seniors. that is a clear, clear contrast republicans identify a problem that we know is a problem around the world but democrats are actually taking action to reduce cost for people at home and they have focused on that. it been part of certainly their campaigns as they're also focused on other economic i were eve -- issues. it important to deal with that and there are many issues folks care about very deeply including reproductive freedom. >> before i let you go completely off topic but this is definitely a water cooler issue and that is the powerball. you were the lottery commissioner in michigan. give me your ten-second answer on seeing $1.9 billion for the powerball. >> it's mind gblowing, actually. it's a massive amount of money. one piece of advice i'll give to people, you can't win unless you

actually buy a ticket. >> i've heard that. [ laughter ] all right. senator, thank you for joining us. appreciate it. >> always a pleasure. thank you for having me on. >> okay. thank you. back with our panel. >> sounded like a true lottery commissioner. >> really. really. >> buy a ticket. [ laughter ] >> scott jennings? >> yeah? >> thoughts? >> he and rick scott are very similar. they predict they will win every race on the entire map and that's their job. >> that's their job. >> look, i think some of these democrats aren't going to return. he can't say that but we certainly can. nevada as i mentioned is the one i think they're in most danger. on georgia, i know he said they have a chance to win it out right. i got to tell you, i talked to walker people last week and the pollster down there is pretty confident about that race. pennsylvania is the one that just continues to vex me. some days i wake up and feel great and some days i wake up and i don't know, i was trying to get the pollster on our panel to give me some wisdom earlier

and i think we were in alignment. it was just so close out there. >> pennsylvania is the type of race, too, where because you have the celebrity power of somebody like dr. oz but also that comes with some higher negatives than you might see for other candidates but that's a race where gravity may be pulling things one direction but there is so much unusual stuff whether it's fetterman's health or dr. oz makes it more complicated, certainly not making predictions on that. >> you know the good news? we have somebody in between us that knows a thing or two about pennsylvania politics. >> i can't predict that one. >> eloquent thing. >> exactly right. dr. oz had a very difficult primary. i thought fetterman is going to have one a. rising star congressman -- >> he did a tough primary. >> fetterman beat him bedecisivy and to his credit, congressman lamb backed fetterman completely. the democrats united completely.

they put together all of the republicans. i was struck with senator peterson. candidate quality does matter. he does have to defend income b -- incumbents. he's running for the senate in ohio or sherry beasley, the chief justice supreme court of north carolina or val demings, a long-time cop and congresswoman from florida. those are tough states. you're not going to get candidates like beasley, ryan if the national party doesn't back them. >> one of the points he was making is he has to bring members back and nevada is the place where -- i saw you nodding along as scott was talking. is nevada your pick if you were to look at that map of vulnerables and say which one am i the most worried about today? >> democrats -- i worked in nevada before and democrats freak out about nevada. one thing that troubles me is 2020 was too close for comfort and then now as we're heading into the midterms, i think that

turnout is not where it needs to be compared to the last midterm election. and that makes democrats a little bit nervous. i'm also a little bit worried there is this whole conversation about the right ward shift of latino voters. i don't think latinos will go to republicans. i worry about them turning out. >> you cannot under estimate the hangover. not even a hangover. it's like they're still feeling it of covid in las vegas and how much people are hurt because of the economic struggles. it's the case across the board. a place driven by tourists like las vegas is tough. >> on the candidate issue, it's interesting some of the better candidates of the cycle are in the states that both parties would consider to be the reaches. tim ryan in ohio probably did the best he could there. he's going to lose i think. for us, republicans, it's tiffany smiley in washington and joe o'day in colorado. i have to tell you, i've spoken

with republicans dealing with washington state. they believe in it purely because of the quality of tiffany smiley democrats had to invest in it as well. so -- >> she's a republican running against patty murray. >> against patty murray. >> it doesn't have to be a big wave year for an odd ball race like that to come on the board. i think this midterm reminds me of the 2014 midterm which was good for republicans. not the huge wave. you have mark warner in virginia getting taken out by ed galespy. something like washington wouldn't be hard for me to see. >> it strikes me the dynamics perhaps playing out in some of these states is economy and crime. hilary rosen made a point about democracy versus those issues seems like that is perhaps salient here. >> huge. i'm not a soccer fan. i'm a college football guy but they call this thing in soccer

own goal, you kick it in your own goal. i think that's when the democrats walk away -- [ laughter ] -- we'll go with that. >> it's an own goal. i worked for a president who had really strong credibility on the economy and crime. democrats don't have that today. some democratic strategists are saying don't talk about it. don't talk about it. chris made this point in the first segment. abortion for the democrats got them back in the game. necessary but not sufficient. i can't wait to see the tally of how much money democrats spend on pro-choiced as. >> it's a lot. >> we have a choice to make. >> the problem about taking about democracy as the final thing, people go to the store every day and see prices go up where the threat to democracy, that's why it was not the winning message for democrats. >> we'll continue the conversation in a moment but up next for us, they still contest the 2020 election and they won't say if they'll accept this election so why are so many gop

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now, the gop is feeling optimistic but a big question is p plaguing the republican party and that is of candidate quality. can they pass the test in the general election? we'll find out in two days. joining us now is republican former governor of wisconsin scott walker. governor walker, thanks for joining us. so good to see you. >> we are now at the almost to the end of this and one of the big dynamics we've been dealing with in the midterm has been the environment versus the candidate. >> yeah. >> so at the end of the day, some of the biggest races in this cycle are going to play out where they're the biggest questions about the candidates. on the republican side, what do you see unfolding? >> two things. one, i think the candidates are talking about the right issues, at least on the republican side. three ps, personal economic issues, public safety and involvement in education and the more they talk about that, the more they're winning not only

are democrats not right on the issues, by in large this morning, they're not talking about the same issues. they're talking about january 6th democracy, other things not in line with it but the other part specific to the question about quality of candidates, one of the under told stories is the impact governors or gubernatorial candidates will have on the u.s. senate race where there were questions about that. >> like in georgia for example. >> in georgia. kemp is going to win big and help herschel walker get to the 50% threshold similarly in arizona but you also see in states like new hampshire and arizona where governor's races will draw -- s >> the opposite is true -- >> in pennsylvania. >> that's an exception. >> doug massi could be a huge draw. >> there are very legitimate questions about fetterman in that case. another one is similar in my state where ron johnson will probably win by a tad bit more

than tim michaels. i think both will win. >> because you brought up ron johnson. >> yeah. >> i'd like to play for you what he has been saying on the campaign trail about accepting or not accepting election results. >> i sure hope i can but i can't predict what the democrats might have planned. you know, we're not trying to do anything to gain partisan advantage. we're doing whatever we can to restore confidence. >> i want nothing more than when the polls close to say okay, nothing weird happened here. you know, we didn't find a bunch of suspicious activity. our observers were able to observe. they were given full access. we had full transparency in the chain of custody of all the absentee ballots of the flash drives, those things to be delivered into the election central counts, okay is? we want full transparency, full access and if that happens and that's what needs to happen, then i'll accept the results but

we need that full transparency. i'm not sure we're going to get it. >> at that last part, i'm not sure we're going to get it. >> well, we had concerns for now two decades. i exposed back in 2000 the smokes for votes issues in milwaukee that ultimately led pushing for a photo i.d. requirement i ultimately signed in as governor. people said it would suppress votes. but like we've seen in georgia. >> shouldn't he be listening to you -- >> we've seen other steps. what happened in milwaukee, green bay and madison are legitimate concerns that need to be fixed with a new governor and legislative majorities to work with. in the end what he should be talking about, what tim michaels should be talking about is the economy, a public safety and parental involvement. >> in the end isn't it the case there was no fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election in wisconsin or anywhere else. why isn't he just saying that? >> well, because again, the media asked him about it. >> why can't he just say that?

>> everybody in the bubble in the media here and around the country want to talk about that when the voters overwhelmingly want to talk about their own personal economic issues. >> the rnc chair mcdaniel was on this morning and said point blank we'll get the process. we'll do the canvassing, do the certification and i want everybody to concede if they lost or claim victory if they win. >> that's what candidates are dog. i'm saying both of the instances you have quotes you say from a gaggle, not from the podium. those from reporters that want to go off track and talk about the issues to get -- >> let's get off track -- >> i wouldn't describe that as off track because ron johnson made that a central part of his candidacy. >> i talked to wisconsin -- >> i do want to ask you about this because we're also in the moment where former president trump is reasserting himself into this campaign. does it help or hurt and especially if he announces a presidential run in the middle of this month, what does that do if you are in the state of georgia? >> well, i hope the biggest

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former president donald trump is teasing a presidential bid in 2024 during a midterm campaign rally in florida today and trump also encouraged the crowd to reelect florida governor ron desantis. that is a noticeable difference from his comments last night where he took a swipe at the republican governor giving him a new nickname. >> we're winning big, big, big in the republican party for the nomination like nobody has ever seen before. let's see. there it is. trump at 71. ron at 10%. mike pence at 7 -- mike is doing better than i thought. >> our gang is back with us. so wow, quite the change in 24

hours. what do you think happened, scott? >> wow. if he looked at the comments from republicans around the country, they were enraged because let me give you a dynamic duduo. only two republicans are attacking republicans, liz cheney and donald trump. you would never imagine they would be paired up. ron desantis is on the ballot and out in addition to being on the ballot campaigning for other republicans around the country, many of whom donald trump endorsed and helped win the nomination. so i think republicans want the former president to row the boat with everybody else because there is so much at stake. >> a team player is what you're saying. >> a backtrack. >> very much so. >> i don't know it actually going to last much longer than -- >> oh, no. >> tuesday but at least for now. >> i'm just proud that he came up with a insult. that's a first for mr. trump. not entirely sure he knows what it means but the other nicknames

were simpler and easy for his cognition to handle. >> the other thing about his other nicknames is that they're even the ones pretty horrible were the sorts of things you could imagine had genesis and something someone would have said in a focus group, right? i'm having trouble thinking of the focus group where swing voter looks at ron desantis and s says it and this doesn't feel like a top ten nickname and crucially, the thing that makes republican voters sort of forgive him when he's out there throwing pumnches, he always claims i'm just punching back. to my knowledge, ron desantis has not thrown a first punch so this seems like you're fighting inside the tent. >> he's throwing a punch by existing. [ laughter ] >> i'm just saying that he is there and that is the problem if trump wants to run again. >> that's funny. desantis has been tested in this

way. we don't know what's going to happen. this is just the beginning of trump. this is the beginning of a contested primary and beginning of 2024. donald trump is going to throw a lot of stuff towards him and we don't know how it's going to go. as someone who had to run the primary for the democratic party, i will say that there were a lot of democratic voters and donors that thought many of the senators would rise up to the top and somehow come out on top and that never happened and so i don't think -- i don't know how desantis will react to this and i'm not sure if he can take the attacks from trump moving forward. >> before you jump in, to me, the biggest question facing the republican party now is are they going to create a one on one situation for trump or are they going to do what they did last time, have a huge field. tom cotton, senator from arkansas took himself out of the running today or at least that was reported by cnn and politico and others. is he signaling get out while

you can so we can narrow it down or is something else going to happen? >> i don't know if that's specifically what he meant. it would be helpful. half the party wants trump roughly and half may want to go in a different direction. you're exactly right. the fragmentation of the half that doesn't want to do trump is protective of trump and so i think the fewer people that are in probably the better off. there is plenty of time for the crowd to whittle down but the winner take all system in the republican party is verie very advan advantageous. >> there is a downside for donald trump announcing he's going to win if he does do so and that's the rnc can no longer pay his legal bills. they paid over $2 million in his legal bills. listen to what the rnc chair told me about that this morning. >> we cannot pay legal bills for

any candidate that's announced. so these are our bills that came from the leticia james lawsuit that started while he was president. it was voted on by our executive committee for our former president that this was a politically motivated investigation. >> so no more. >> we cannot. we can't do any contributions to any candidate. right now he's the former president being attacked from every which way with lawsuits and he certainly raised more under the rnc than we spent on these bills. >> i think he'll have to start digging deep into his pocketbook. i mean, this has been a little bit controversial. i mean, you're saying yeah. >> well, they should -- >> it's money that could have gone to the candidates. >> absolutely. he spent some. he finally got around to spending some money out of his super pac to help out, nowhere near which mitch mcconnell and rick scott raised and spent. he spent a little. the rnc had to divert resources. i'm glad that rule is in place they wouldn't be able to do that. for him that wouldn't be fair to

the rest of the field. i think others will run. tom cotton i don't think will be the rule here. i think you're going to have mike pence and maybe, you know, former secretary of state pompeo and desantis, a lot of people and i think some of them will go ahead and take the plunge. >> and hutchinson who was on our air recently all but announced governor of arkansas term limited maybe chris christie, the former governor of new jersey was a trump ally. this is a problem. you hit it exactly right, trump has always been a plurality candidate. he has a bulletproof plurality but he has never -- in the primaries in 2016 he never commanded a majority supporting the party in the end. by the way, not that i'm a fan of ron desantis but he's done something donald trump has never done, he got more votes than the democrat. trump has never done that and never will because he's a minority candidate. a plurality candidate for a fanatically committed fringe. they would be committed -- >> let's bring in real quick mike pence. his -- this is happening at the

same time that mike pence is about to kick off a book tour. to me, that doesn't seem like an accident. >> it strikes me as hard to imagine a path for mike pence and that's in part because even for republicans who don't necessarily want donald trump again and might like to turn the page, in a way, mike pence is a reminder of some of the things they don't like about the clash around donald trump, around him serving in that administration but then, him, you know, in the views of many republicans i talked to in focus groups, him turning against trump and if that's an characterization of pence, if we don't want trump, let's stand back and let desantis run. you should have a robust field. it's a question of once you get past the first state or two, the people get the message. >> see the writing on the wall. >> everybody, stand by. we're going to take a quick break and up next, we'll talk

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starting labor day weekend my colleague abby sharp, different abby and i visited five pivotal states and talked to voters about what they want to hear most from candidates who want their support. here is what we heard. >> the common thread we heard from voters across the country, frustration and fear about rising prices. >> i drive a truck. it does not get very good gas mileage. i had to quit my last job because i couldn't afford to drive out there. >> why is the price of gas where it is today? you can't just overlook that issue. >> vegetables have gone up 20% to 30%. growers locally in the farms are not carrying things they did last year because people don't have the money. >> inflation they say is 8% but in the construction industry it's like 30%.

>> translator: food is high. gas is high. rent is high. >> so that was obviously what we heard by and large. the abortion issue is an issue. >> yes. >> just not the issue. >> it is just not the thing people are dealing with day in and day out. also in my midterm travels the same thing. people are going out and just finding that it is more expensive to do basic things they were doing before. the challenge in this cycle is who do they blame for the reality of that? and i do think that what is difficult for democrats is that it's just very easy for a lot of voters to say, hey. i just want to try something different. >> that's just the way politics tends to be. how many times have we covered republican administrations or at times when republicans are in charge of congress and voters are upset.

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we are in the homestretch and just minutes away from the final day of campaigning before voters head to the polls in the critical midterm elections. >> control of both the house and the senate hang in the balance. our colleagues are covering all of the key races around the country. jeff zeleny is in atlanta. omar