are you worried that relatively small errors like that could undermine voter confidence? >> that was an isolated condition in one county where in two days they did not send out the absentee ballots. they identified the issue, apologized profusely, and took proactive countermeasures. they said we are going to send out next-day to people affected. and they also included a return envelope. the judge sent out a consent order giving these potentially up to 800 voters the ability to get that back by november 14th, which is by the time we have to receive our overseas military ballots. >> brad raffensperger, i appreciate your time tonight. good luck tomorrow. the news continues. let's hand it over to jake tapper and "cnn tonight." welcome to "cnn tonight." i'm jack tapper in washington. tonight we're on the eve of american voters' last chance to

cast their ballots in this critical midterm election at stake. control of the u.s. house of representatives, control of the u.s. senate, plus control of governors' mansions in state houses all across united states. the polls and political history point to a likely good night for republicans. since 1990, the president's party has lost seats in the house, sometimes in the dozens, when the president's approval rating falls below 50%. and biden's sure is below 50%. trying to ride that momentum, sources tell cnn that donald trump has been discussing with aides whether he should announce his 2024 presidential campaign tonight. it's all unknown as of now, but what is clear, we probably will not know the results in a number of the elections tomorrow night. it will likely take days to count all the ballots. so, what to watch out for in the meantime? beware of bad actors who will

try to take advantage of these delays to spread false conspiracies about election fraud. let's take a moment to go back to election night two years ago, when then-president donald trump was raving at 2:30 a.m. about a stolen election before millions of your votes had even been counted. >> this is a fraud on the american public. frankly, we did win this election. >> nope. you didn't. but you did manage to convince a large part of the american public that mail-in ballots were a major source of fraud. no credible evidence was ever presented to suggest any major fraud that would have changed the outcome of any election. that's the fact. each state has its own set of rules about mail-in voting. some states allow election officials to open the envelopes and count mail-in ballots even before election day. florida, extexas, north carolin.

others, such as pennsylvania and wisconsin, you cannot count them until election day. in fact, election workers there are not even allowed to open the envelopes that contain these ballots and prepare them to be counted. this means in early returns, some viewers may be misled. in october 2020, we tried to explain how this all might play out. >> whether you call it the red mirage or the blue shift, you can expect early election night results to look pretty different from the final outcome. this will not be a sign of fraud or irregularity, just the inevitability of mail-in ballots, early voting, and various state rules about when those ballots can be counted. so, election night it might look like trump is romping in, say, pennsylvania, because they haven't counted all these democratic leaning ballots. or on election night, it might look like biden was romping in

ohio and texas because those states counted their early ballots before the election, which democrats used disproportionately. and that's how it all played out. that all happened. the difference being that biden didn't claim he really had won ohio and texas. here's former fox news chris stier walt before the january 6th committee talking about preparing fox viewers for the red mirage. >> we have gone to pains -- and i'm proud of the pains we went to -- to make sure that we were informing viewers that this was going to happen. happens every time. >> trump's own attorney general, bill barr, testified that he knew this would happen too. >> people had been talking for weeks and everyone understood for weeks that that was going to be what happened on election night. >> but donald trump was not satisfied with the red mirage. he wanted a red reality. and when he didn't get one, he launched a mad cap campaign of deranged election lies.

today marks two years since trump tweeted that his attorney, rudy giuliani, would hold a press conference on alleged voter fraud to be held at the four seasons, philadelphia. this event ended up actually being held at a place called four seasons total landscaping, just north of the -- bridge in the strip mall with the sex shop across the street from the crematorium, not the fancy four seasons hotel in center city. >> i'm here on behalf of the trump campaign, as attorney for the president, to describe to you the first part of a situation that is extremely, extremely troubling. >> that farce was extremely troubling, but not for the reasons that giuliani cited. those lies became dangerous.

they incited a mob and culminated in the violent attempt to overturn the election on january 6. these efforts to disenfranchise voters based on allegations that do not stand up to scrutiny, they have already started in this election. today, a michigan judge rejected a bid by the republican candidate for secretary of state, kristina karamo, who wanted to throw out absentee ballots in the largely democratic city of detroit. chief judge timothy kenny look at a look at her claims and ruled, quote, while it is easy to hurl accusations of violations of law and corruption rngs it is another matter to come forward and produce the evidence that our constitution and laws require. plaintiffs failed in a full day of evidentiary hearing to produce any shred of evidence, unquote.

wild claims, no actual evidence. we've seen that film before. speaking of which, we can ignore the claims coming from some of the united states' adversaries. today russian oligarch pri goes yan, appeared to admit to interfering in u.s. elections in response to a journalists' question about meddling in elections tomorrow. he said on social media, quote, gentlemen, we interfered, we interfere, and we will interfere carefully, precisely, surgely, in our own way as we know how. during our pinpoint operations, we will remove both the kidneys and the liver at once, unquote. what he is talking about is unknown. maybe he was joking. maybe there is another big russian disinformation campaign out there. either way, what you need to keep in mind, the reality,

elections are complicated. they can be imperfect. counting your votes can take time. brew some coffee, sit down, let the elections workers do the job of counting your votes because at the end of the day, your voice matters. >> it's a civic duty. i feel like it's something that just helps to get involved in your community, and elections are important. >> we're going to make a difference in the world by our vote. >> and joining us now to break down some of the key races you should be watching tomorrow, david chalian. david, good to see you. republicans appear likely to retake the house. the senate still up in the air, it seems. which races do you think are going to be critical for the fight for power in the senate? >> yeah, so, this is the current make-up of the 50/50 senate, right? and the states that are red and blue are the 35 that are up for election on tuesday night. you're right, there are just about six races, i think, that will determine control.

four democratic held seats right now, maggie hassan in new hampshire there, raphael warnock in georgia, mark kelly in georgia, cortez masto in nevada. and the two republican seats, ron johnson running for re-election in wisconsin, and of course the open seat in pennsylvania. how these six seats fall will indeed determine control of the senate. i would just note here, jake, if indeed -- let's just say for the purposes of this argument, hassan hangs on in new hampshire, know that is a total toss up. >> yeah, we have no idea. >> again, another tossup race. let's today for the purposes of this argument, warnock hangs on in georgia. walker's there too. it could easily go the other way. let's say johnson does hang on in wisconsin. and let's head out west. kelly, let's say he hangs on in arizona, but catherine cortez masto next door loses in nevada and adam laxalt wins that senate

seat. you see where we are. everything here then would come down to pennsylvania. >> amazing. so, talk to me about the process when it comes to projecting a winner for the race. i'm out there and i just get told, okay, we're about to project. i have no idea what's been going on to make you guys decide it's okay to do so. what happens? >> we have a pretty robust decision desk operation. it's a bunch of statisticians and sort of political experts in the demography and voting patterns of each of these congressional districts in the country. and they are so steeped in this. and there are models. as the vote is coming in, the models start coming up, telling you sort of who can win and who can lose. and when our decision desk gets to 99.9% certainty that the candidate behind in a race cannot over take the candidate ahead with the outstanding vote, they can make a projection. that's the level of certainty we get. >> it's going to be a fun night. as i said, brew some coffee, get ready. election night is coming up.

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in less than nine hours, the first election day midterm polling locations are going to open on the east coast of the united states. already more than 43 million early votes have been cast by mail and at early voting locations. tonight election officials are stressing to the american people that the final outcome could significantly vary from the early results, like we told you last block, because, like in 2020, the process to count mail-in ballots could stretch on for days. here to discuss, chris krebs, the former director of the infrastructure security agency,

part of the department of homeland security. chris, it's so good to see you. thanks for being here. before we get to election security and voting, i do want to ask you about this comment by this russian oligarch linked to putin. maybe he was joking. he told "telegram," we interfered, we interfere, and we will interfere. what did you make of the comments? and are you confident in the security of tomorrow's election? >> so, this in and of itself is an information operation. this is disinformation what he's doing. this is putin's chef. he runs the notorious st. peter'sburg troll farm. they were behind the disinformation operations in the 2016 election. they've been quite active since, and there's been some disruptions. but this is just an opportunity for him to get out there and continue to stoke chaos. this is manufactured operational chaos for these guys. over the weekend, there were some reports that this group, the ira, was back at it.

it was targeting some democratic senate races and trying to undermine confidence in the u.s. support to ukraine. i'd also probably point out that he may be trying to remind the kremlin, as they're going through some problems in ukraine, that he's been a loyal servant to the inner group and don't forget that and give him some support. remember, he leads the wagner group too. >> these mercenaries that are horrific. you are confident in the elections. you think they're secure and they're going to be okay tomorrow. >> yeah, i've historically been pretty confident in the resilience of the election system in that there's not a foreign adversary that can get in and change votes, prevent voting. i think there is opportunity space and just day-to-day operational mistakes. there could be something known as denial of service attack against election night reporting. the key here is that's all on the periphery. it's not affecting the process and administration of elections.

>> it might slow it down. it won't change votes. >> which is i think the key here and something you've said and others is that we just have to be patient. don't overreact. this takes time. it's a process. regardless of all the fluff around some of the political figures right now that are talking about how all of a sudden now it takes forever to count votes, it's always been this way. >> anybody who's followed politics knows recount in minnesota took forever. the florida recount in 2000. arizona race. always takes forever to get the final result when it's a close election. earlier tonight, one of trump's attorneys, christina bobb, said this about the election results. let's roll that tape. >> i expect to know who won by, like, the middle of the night, maybe very, very early wednesday morning. if we don't and if democrats try to extend the vote, i think they're going to have a very, very hard time doing it with any level of credibility. >> again, they're not extending

the vote. they're counting the vote. but here they are doing it again. if we don't know wednesday morning, then democrats are cheating. it's crap. >> the irony of her using the word "credibility" in that clip, it's remarkable. you know, as you know, all 50 states have a set period of time in statute to count the votes, to canvass, to audit, then to certify. the fastest tends to be eight to nine days. florida is one of the fastest. some do take to the end of the month of november. it takes times. who makes the calls? it's the media. it's the media making calls based on exit polling and other projections. but the actual process of counting is at the state level. but this entire narrative of giving opportunities to rig the vote, to figure out how many votes they need in this blue wave at the end, this is the new platform. this is the new playbook. you see it. rick grinnell made a similar sort of accusation over the weekend. this is just how this fringe

element of the former president's inner circle continues to push narratives so they can soften up the base for their continued attacks to undermine confidence in voting. >> and much of this disinformation is distributed through social media sites such as facebook -- i guess it's called meta now. you might remember this video -- let's show you. it went viral in 2020. it claimed to show bags of ballots being burned. it's not what it was. even though it was fake, it got millions of views. it was boosted by eric trump. what should people look out for to make sure they don't fall for one of these misinformation campaigns or maybe in some cases an innocent mistake, who knows, but for false information? >> this is the hard part, right? because social media itself, the way the algorithms are designed is to get you to emotionally respond so you rage click, anger click, whatever it is. i think what everybody needs to do is have a little patience. if you see something that gets you a little riled up, say maybe i need to investigate this a little bit further. i'm going to check out what my

state or local election official, brad raffensperger on with anderson, a great example of clear communication, transparent communication. steven richer out in maricopa county, arizona, radical transparency in terms of how he's administering elections. look to the authoritative elections and that's your state and local officials. >> one other thing on the social media, i don't know how much you've been following about elon musk taking over twitter. he tweeted a link to a false and deranged story about the attack on speaker pelosi's husband. in april he said it was important that twitter stay politically neutral. today he told his 114 million followers to vote republican in the congress. what do you make of it all? >> well, look, you know, privately held. it's d listed. it's not publicly held. he can do with it what he and his other holders of equity in the company want to do.

the risk here though is they make the shift where the blue tick mark, the blue checkmark, has historically been interpreted as a marker of trust. it means this person is who they say they are. it tends to be journalists like you, former political officials like me. it's those that we take their word in what they're saying, and we need to guard against impersonation and misrepresentation on the platform. as they shift to a model where it's just to pay $7.99 a month, that changes the paradigm on the platform. and so, as they make this adjustment, again, it's his right to do it as the owner of the platform. they need to be clear in how they communicate what that marker of trust is now a marker of payment at best. >> interesting. chris krebs, always good to see you. thank you so much. if tomorrow goes as way, my next guest might be the next governor of pennsylvania. democrat josh shapiro is here. does he worry this might not be

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it is not even election day and already a critical legal battle that could determine the results in all-important pennsylvania is ramping up. at issue, whether mail-in ballots with incorrect or missing dates will count. last week, the pennsylvania supreme court sided with republicans, ruling that undated ballots should be put aside and not counted with the vote total. tonight, democratic senate candidate, lieutenant governor john fetterman's campaign went to a federal court to try to

overturn that decision. fetterman's lawyers arguing, quote, the date on a mail ballot envelope has no bearing on a voter's qualifications, and serves no purpose other than to erect barriers exercising their constitutional right to vote. joining us now, josh shapiro, currently the state's attorney general. we also invited his opponent, doug mastriano, but mastriano has not responded. you're the attorney general. where do you stand with this lawsuit? do you agree with fetterman? >> look, we have always sided on the side of enfranchisement, not disenfranchisement in this commonwealth. we want to make sure all legal eligible votes are counted. historically a date on an outer envelope wouldn't have necessarily been considered a material issue, enough to throw out an otherwise correct ballot. we'll see where the court stands on this. the supreme court of pennsylvania has made clear that none of these ballots can be

thrown out. if there's a question on a date, they need to be segregated so that if there's litigation ultimately on these ballots, they can be reviewed at a later time. so, look, i think folks just -- you know, for those who have filled out their ballots already, the vast, vast, vast majority were filled out correctly. and many counties now have the ability to cure a ballot have reached out to voter ifs a date was messed up or if a signature wasn't exactly right to have them come on down before the polls close at 8:00 p.m. to cure their ballot. from what i'm hearing across the commonwealth, many counties are doing that. many people are taking advantage of that on the limited number of ballots exist that might have an issue. >> you received a letter today from four of pennsylvania's former living governors urging you and your opponent to accept the election results no matter the outcome. will you pledge to accept the outcome and do you think

mastriano will as well? >> of course i will, jake. i've said that many times. looking back on 2020, we all know we had a free and fair, safe and secure election here in pennsylvania. that's because of the dedication of republican and democratic clerks of elections in each of our 67 counties and the good work of our department of state. i have full faith in our democratic clerks and elections here in pennsylvania, and i will respect the will of the people and accept the results of the election. on the other side, doug mastriano is someone who participated in the violent insurrection on january 6. and he was there that day, jake, to stop pennsylvanians' votes from being counted. he's already pledged he wants to undermine the vote in the future, and he has not pledged to accept the results of this election. it's just more of the same from a guy who is undemocratic and a guy who tries to undermine our freedoms every step of the way. but of course i will accept the

will of the people and the results of this election. >> homicide -- the homicide rate in philadelphia was at a record high in 2021. it's following a similar trend this year. crime's a big issue on the campaign trail in tv ads, certainly among republicans, if you win tomorrow, what would you do on day one as governor to try to begin to tackle this problem? and why do you think so many other democrats seem to be struggling on this issue? >> you know, jake, as attorney general, i've arrested over 8,200 drug dealers, more than 500 child predators, and i've talked about the need throughout this campaign for every single pennsylvanian to both be safe and feel safe in their communities. i've put forth plans to accomplish that, including hiring at least 2,000 more police officers across this commonwealth, as well as investing in the underlying issues that drive violence often times in our communities, from

mental health to trauma to poverty to a lack of quality education. we need to invest more in law enforcement, and i'm grateful that law enforcement trusts me to do this work as governor. very grateful that i've been endorsed by local police across pennsylvania, by prosecutors from both parties. they trust me to do this work to keep people safe. and i think this is one of the most fundamental responsibilities of governing. and that is to keep its citizenry safe. and i'll take that very seriously, as god willing, pennsylvania's next governor. >> it does look as though republicans in general are going to have a good day tomorrow, driven largely by voter dissatisfaction with president biden and on issues of crime and most importantly the economy. why do you think that is? do you think democrats have a messaging problem or a policy problem? >> you know, jake, i don't know that i'm the right person to answer that question. it's a fair one. i understand why you're asking it.

but i'm not paying a whole lot of attention to washington, d.c. or what's happening in any other race. i'm focused pretty much like a laser beam on washington county, pennsylvania, and other communities across pennsylvania. and i think what folks want here is answers on how their kids are going to get a quality education, how their communities will be safe, how their economy is going to give them a shot to succeed and also reduce cost for them. and of course how we're going to protect their fundamental rights and freedoms. and that's what i talk about every single day, whether i'm in an urban, rural, or suburban community. i lean in on those issuesment i'm not afraid to take on any of those issues. and i think we need to tell people in these campaigns what we're going to do for them, how we're going to make their lives better, and show that we have a track record of being able to do that work. so, that's what i've been focused on doing here in pennsylvania. i'm not sure i can speak to what others are doing across the country. >> attorney general josh shapiro, you've got one more day left on the campaign trail.

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trying to get their ads on tv as much as possible. in the race for north carolina newly created 14th congressional district, the democrat just pulled one of his ads. the spot showed a house belonging to his opponent, republican pat harrigan. last month, a bullet was fired through a window of a different home belonging to harrigan's parents. no one was injured, thankfully. police have not commented on a possible motive. pat harrigan is a special forces veteran. first off, sir, thank you so much for your service and the sacrifice your family has made with your serving abroad. your kids were in your parents' home when the gun was fired, i understand, which is horrible. i hope everyone is okay. >> jake, everyone's okay. hey, thanks for having me on. i'll say before i get started, i'm a huge fan of your book "the outpost," it's a great piece of literature. >> thank you so much. you said political violence. my understanding is police have not given a motive. is there anything more to the

story we don't know? >> there's a whole lot more questions at this point than there are answers. police cannot rule out this was not political violence. so, the story of this kind of unfolds across this entire race. from the very beginning, from the time i won the primary, my opponent has been lying about me. i'm not talking about ordinary lies that you see throughout politics. i'm talking about vile and nasty lies. i'm in the defense business. i have a couple companies that manufacture firearms. and my opponent has said that i profit in the deaths of children. reprehensible lies. and this has kind of set off a cascading series of events throughout this campaign, this narrative and other narratives like it have been maintained where i've received a credible death threat. my opponent filmed an ad outside of one of my homes. he filed a complaint that showed picture of a children. and then a couple weeks ago, my parents, as they're sitting watching television at 11:00 at

night, have a bullet rip through their window only 20 feet from where my kids were sleeping. it is certainly disconcerting. >> yeah. no, certainly. and i'm glad everyone's okay. again, we don't know for certain why that happened, but i can surely understand why you would be very upset about it. let's step back more broadly because we seem to be in an era of political violence against democrats, against republicans. we also see too many people don't seem to care when there's violence against their political opponents, whether it's the threat to supreme court justice brett kavanaugh, the attack on paul pelosi, nancy pelosi's husband comes to mind. thankfully, your democratic opponent did take down his ad, and he did condemn the attack on you in the strongest possible terms. i wonder how much this experience changed your view of how many people have a difficult time accessing their humanity because of their partisan

politics. >> yeah, i think it's a real problem that we have. and you mentioned that my opponent condemned the shot. but what he has not done is he has not condemned the tactics he has used during the campaign. if you go to my opponents website, jeff jackson, it says honest and decent politics. this man could not have run a more dishonest and indecent campaign. it's because he's willing to talk about anything that has -- that distracts from what the voters of the 14th district actually really want to talk about, which is the economy and inflation, declining educational outcomes for our kids, crime on our streets. and, you know, those core issues that are at the center of this race for the future that america is going to be. and i think we all have to step back regardless of what political party we're in. and we have to say, are we willing to sacrifice our values on the altar of scoring

political points? the answer must be no regardless of what party we're from. >> let me ask you, because both you and your opponent, jeff jackson, both of you are veterans of the war in afghanistan. and you say that the withdrawal from afghanistan last year, 2021, is what inspired you or incited you to run for song. how so? explain. >> you know, at that point, i realized that we had failed leadership that was truly leading us down the road to failed outcomes. i really couldn't comprehend how we have a chief executive in this country who has managed to bookend his political career on one side with the withdrawal out of vietnam and on the other side as the commander in chief allowing the same thing to happen in afghanistan. that's where i got switched on. what got me into this race was the realization that my two little girls -- i've got 3- and 5-year-old little girls -- are very likely not going to have

the same opportunities i've had in mine. that is unacceptable. we've never had the next generation offered less opportunities than the prior generation of americans. that is what we're staring at in america if we don't change course. >> let's hope you're wrong about your two little girls. you've got one more day on the campaign trail. enjoy it, sir. >> thank you, jake. a week ago we noted how many members of the maga movement thought it was okay to make light of the attack on speaker pelosi's husband. we reported on many social media posts, but two specific ones from devin nunes that appeared to poke fun at the assault, and promoted the baseless conspiracy theories that mr. pelosi may have had a sexual relationship with the attacker.

nunes did want me to tell you that he told "news maxx" on the record, quote, we always condemn the violence no matter if it's against officials or everyday americans. which does not explain the social media posts making light of the violence, which mr. nunes is welcome to come on cnn to explain. nba kareem abdul-jabbar has a lot to say about kyrie irving's late apology for pushing that anti-semitic film. that's next.

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new reporting about what it will take to get brooklyn nets point guard kyrie irving back on the basketball court this evening. irving has obviously been suspended for his comments and his social media posts surrounding an anti-semitic documentary. according to "the athletic," the brooklyn nets gave kyrie irving a six-point checklist. that includes in part apologizing, condemning the film, making a $500,000

donation, taking training that addresses sensitivity, anti-semitism, and hate, meeting with the antidefamation league and jewish leaders, and sitting down with the team leader. that follows espn reporting that tsai kept extending the clock to get this right for himself. the franchise and the jewish community, and irving never returned a single one of his text messages, unquote. i'm joined by an nba legend and outspoken advocate for social justice issues, kareem abdul-jabbar, number 33. so good to see you, kareem. what should it take for irving to return to the court? what do you think of this list of requirements? >> well, i think kyrie has to understand what's happening. he's being unwittingly used to promote hatred and anti-semitism. and even though he doesn't see himself as being anti-semitic,

by joining forces and making posts like that, it can be used. and i think that's what's happening. >> you're not new to this fight. two years ago, when philadelphia eagles desean jackson tweeted anti-semitic comments, you wrote in "the hollywood reporter," quote, if we're going to be outraged by injustice, let's be outraged by injustice against anyone, end quote. it seems to be a similar circumstances here. the same kinds of tropes from desean jackson, kyrie irving, ye, aka, kanye west. why? why do they all seem so similar? >> i think the loack of awarenes of the harm that they're doing both to the black community and to other communities, the lgbt community, latinx community, all of these marginalized communities are all really in one lump. if we don't try to protect

everyone, we won't protect anyone. we have to have that attitude about it and make sure that all marginalized groups receive the same protection as the groups that are used to getting that protection and feeling safe. >> i saw a post by a jewish american saying that jews are in a way in a bind here, in a catch 22. if they do something, if they protest the kinds of statements that kyrie irving put out there, which is that documentary is full of invented nonsense and lies. if they protest, supporters of kyrie irving say, oh, look, see, jews are powerful. we're not allowed to say anything about them. and if jews don't do anything about it, the hate continues

unfettered. it's really a no-win situation. >> well, you know, a number of bl blacks expected support from jewish groups during the black lives matter movement. and they got that help. but when the reverse was necessary, we ended up with jews and jewish kids were picked on. singled out. and we can't let that happen. the condemnation of antisemitism and discrimination has to be immediately announced and pointed out. so that everybody understands what is going on. and who the culprits are. and we can do that and make some progress, we have people who aren't educated on these issues will start to wise up. >> what is interesting, also, if there's a quote in the documentary that kyrie irving

help promote. supposedly from a democratic senate hate. the guy was killed in 1976 by terrorist. but the quote was, invented by white supremacist, i think in idaho. in 1978. two years after he died. and it just makes me wonder how much the white supremacy movement his using their hate to get blacks to hate jews. when it is all based on the same hatred that they have for jews, blacks, everyone. >> there was a group of hitters that put a sign up on one of the freeway overpasses. who tried to give kanye some support. you can't do that. you have to identify the people who are behind all of this. what did out to them that they

are wrong. and that they need to be educated. so we can get that far we've got a lot of work to do. >> he also recently boat, quote, laziness is what is right in democracy. and quote. with more times more amateur how much of our politics you fear is defined by what you call laziness. >> well, people who vote were think that it is unnecessary. they are wasting their vote and they are. really calling some very negative attention to what is going on in our country. by the apathy. you can't be apathetic. we have to go out there and let people know how we feel. and the vote is the way to go. >> before you go i have to ask. -- go ahead i'm sorry. >> i was going to say a number

of the nba venues. for venues are being used for voting sites because it is that important. i hope people understand that to get out and do their duty. >> absolutely, on to percent, every voter for. before you go the, i do have that switch thoughts on lebron james possibly breaking your career points record. >> you know, whenever he decides to do it, he deserves any and all of the accolades that he has earned. you don't get those points just sitting around on his butt. he worked hard for it. so whatever happens more power to him. he has earned it. >> that's gracious of you to say no surprise would say that. kareem abdul-jabbar. one of the great athletes and voices of our times. thank you so much. >> you are welcome, thank you. we'll be right back. n at fidelity,

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