been very effective when you look at these races. there were a whole lot of election deniers across the country from governor, for senator, especially for secretary of state. they lost, and i would be surprised if you hear president biden reaffirmed that and basically challenge what may well be a new republican majority, certainly are very likely in the house, maybe in the senate. let's work together, let's focus on what unites us rather than what decides us. >> to that point, elections are about the future, they are always about the future. but the party that focuses on what is up next for people, this election denialism stuff is not about that. it's about the past. all those numbers that we saw, even the exit polling that showed, we are talking about last night, it showed how unhappy per -- the should have been a change election by all of our traditional metrics. it wasn't, that tells you that

there was something deeply different. i will say, if you are president biden, i have to say, they have had various turns throughout the past three years, been able to look around at the national media and they have recovered and say, you have underestimated us, we are going to pull this out, we are seeing the things that we are seeing. we are prioritizing things we are prioritizing for a reason. i think even they were doubting it by the end. >> one of the things that i've seen poster talking about this morning is really interesting. i don't want to take away president biden's achievement, but one of the ways that democrats did not have the horrible night that we feared was that people who were registered as somewhat disapproving of president biden still voted for democrats. >> which is a phenomenon we have been talking about four months. biden, he is somewhat unpopular in a large swath of the elections. we saw that in the elections as

well. in the polling over the summer, we saw voters basically saying, the generic ballot is more or less even between republicans and democrats because they're willing to cast a ballot for democrat even while they may not approve of the presidents performance. that has been the most unusual aspect of this race from the beginning. we can't forget about abortion here. i just think that -- we have never as a country had an election where abortion was on the ballot in the way that it was in the cycle. we saw the results. >> i remember being in arizona a couple of weeks ago, listening to democratic voters talking about female voters, talking about the fact that they are convinced that there are going to be more people going out and voting on this issue then are telling. they are not out there holding signs, they're probably not even telling their husbands. but they feel it. you know, maybe that was part of. it although, one thing i just want to go back to.

this is a changed election in that things are going to change big time in washington. >> that's right. but it's not a seat level. >> it's not a sea change, but the approach is going to have to be different. we are going to have to kind of readjust the white house most importantly, they're going to have to readjust because for two years they have been trying to jam through as much as they could of the democratic agenda with very, very small majority. now, there's also gonna be a small majority no matter what happens. it looks like on the republican side that they're going to have to have control of the house. whatever happened, you said it would be small, they're going to do it in a very different way. maybe the joe biden who ran in 2020 will come out and work there. >> you can't overstate. a republican majority in the house, it seems likely to happen, no matter how small it is is going to cause, it will still cause a sea change in this town. it will cause a seat change

with policy, it will cause a sea change with investigations, it will cause a sea change in the budget, the debt limit, support for ukraine. joe biden makes a quote to declare victory, he has a much more complicated life. >> the irony is, that smaller makes it more complicated. >> because of the group that john boehner once called the crazies or the walkover's. the far right freedom caucus that mccarthy, if he's a speaker, it is going to have to constantly be taken care of. anderson cooper, back to you. >> jake, thank you very much. want to check in with our folks here. let me head to president biden, about to speak. what you expect here, what do you hope here? >> those can be two different things. look, what i would advise would be to understand what the message was yesterday. i think it was a repudiation of extremism in all its forms. i think he should note that and understand that this wasn't an affirmation of policies so much as that.

recognize the people are still struggling with inflation and other challenges. our job is to work together to try to solve them. >> you're talking about humility, that's what you're suggesting. >> it's always good, humility is good. i would understand if your point in the white house because this was a far better result for them and then they anticipated. it must have been an incredible relief. i would advise against being triumphant and make it not about him, but about the country, and what it says about the country, where we have to leave. >> this wasn't a clear mandate for joe biden. he avoided the big red wave, which they were very afraid of. this wasn't any kind of affirmation, you have handled inflation well, you have handled everything well. he avoided disaster and he should reach across the aisle and because there is going to be a narrow majority if republicans do take control of

the house. he should be magnanimous in victory. >> he might do all that. i hope he does all that, but he would have the right to say, i told you so. you would have the right to say, i told you so. >> i told you so on? what >> that america is better than you thought. that people are not going to go for extremism. democracy matters to people, i told you so. i think what is important about that is, people were doubting on him. i was doubting on him. people were chewing their fingernails down to their elbows because we said, what is this guy doing? now, a lot of stuff happened at the grassroots level that we talk about. but, biden had a fundamental faith that the american people were better than this nonsense and he was right. >> the last time he gave a speech, his final message to voters, it was about the best democracy, january 6th, drawing a line in the attack. he was attacked for. it >> out to say again, i agree

with dan here to serve extent. i do believe that this is gonna go down in history. it is historic, if you're looking at trends, we all sat around here and everybody analyzed this. it's like baseball, who can throw a no hitter? if you go back and look over the next hundred years, where the big blots dream midterms? there's gonna be an astronaut for bush, this is what happened, there's gonna be an astricted us and ministration. what happened here is historic. i don't know if you can draw a direct line from this president to what happened. i don't know if it is that easy because this election kind of defies that. but i do believe that it is historic. to a certain extent, ron, klain, and those in the white house have an opportunity to puff their chest out a little bit today. i would agree with david in terms of not being too jubilant, being a lid humble and saying, look, this is a chance for biden to be the president that he ran on in 2020, make america great. >> isn't the message in the exit polls we have saw, the best thing that ever happened to joe biden was don trump.

again, the voters are not hot on biden's policies, they're not on the direction of the country. they are not hot on the economy. but they were a little bit harder on biden's amanda trump the man. once again, he has a political triumph because he is being compared to other people. >> he has every right to take a victory lap, but to david's point, i would have some humility in this. he is running into it for public, it's gonna be investigation after investigation, subpoenas flying to the white house. trying to impeach him. this is much more difficult with the slim majority for kevin mccarthy. i think -- >> i think it makes it much easier. >> it actually could lead to a building more of a gun of earning majority with some of the more moderate house republicans who for years have been over written. >> there is an opportunity. >> i think that's what should be looking. it >> cannot be done when the rest of the republican party is having investigations? i think is a wake up call for the republican party.

i think they need to realize this was a reference to extremism. people don't want to debate to hunter biden, they want to put food on peoples tables. >> my point is not that, he should be proud of what the country did, but all i'm saying is, he should make it about the country and all about himself. in terms of your point, alyssa, i think what we saw yesterday was yes, the democratic base was mobilized. but the reason these candidates won was because independents swung it hard to them. they were the people who also swung to joe biden in 2020. some of them had lost faith in him, just to speak to fundamental -- >> i want to ask you, gloria. >> this is in biden's first rodeo here. he knows what happened in the 90s for example. he understands that the potential for republican

overreach is huge. i think he has to kind of play cool because he knows what is sitting out there. like alyssa is talking about, he knows we are talking about investigation, he knows you're talking about impeachment. he knows they're talking about hunter biden, et cetera, et cetera. he can use them as a foil. i think right now he has to be cool about it. >> i agree the independence for key here, i don't want to take away what he does. the base actually did its job. i hope the white house takes a lesson, biden came through for the base. biden did the common stuff they were big him do. he did the marijuana stuff they are begging him to do. he did a bunch of stuff they were begging him to do. people showed up and the young people showed up, we don't know how to pull these folks, pull them on tiktok, snapchat. voters for tomorrow, moving at voter project, these

organizations actually perform very well with very little money. i think he acknowledges the base. >> based on everything you just said, here's a question i have. you're joe biden today, do you feel emboldened to run for reelection already go out and say, i'm going out. >> that was my next question. >> i was proud for myself in his shoes. on the one hand if you are here -- i am all in, especially if i'm gonna get trump again because it's obvious i can beat trump. on the other hand, if republicans -- it's interesting. >> i'm gonna get in trouble for saying this, i think joe biden, for both parts of what i'm gonna say, i think joe biden will be in the history. history will kindly on joe biden for what he's done as president for the united states. defeating trump, leading the country through this pandemic. however you feel about elements of what he did, the legislative things he is accomplished, which were truly historic, some of which will have generational

impact. infrastructure, i think the climate stuff, but be that as it may, if he was 60 years old, there's no doubt that he should lean in and run. no one will question that. i've said it 1 million times and say it again, the issue is not political. the issue is actuality. he's going to have to decide, if he was 82 years old as the president of the united states, who would be 86 by the time he finished. this is going to be an issue. hey, we good term major. >> if you are rising, and what would you advise him to do? >> i think he's got so much to his credit. i think this would be a great moment, not today, but i think it would be much harder in certain ways for a guy who has a lot of pride to say after a bad mentor, you know what, i think it's time for me to go. he has more latitude to do

that. >> you think you are rodgers in the white house who, if they felt that, would actually say that to joe biden. >> i think there probably are, but i also think that he is family or going through it. >> this is a biden discussion. this is a discussion with his wife. we don't know where she is on this issue. also, you have to consider it on trump's weekend, he also has to consider who else might he run against. if desantis is suddenly empowered, then that is a very tough opponent. i wonder how that would implicate things. >> you could also look at the other way. if he looks around santa's and thinks, is he that likable? can he run in the election. >> 24 hours, we are sitting here like trump is going to be the nominee. nobody's gonna be don trump. who couldn't see the king. and this morning the french page of new york post is like,

the future. >> you've seen this before. there is a human cry i heard from people in pennsylvania last night kelly chose a turn off my phone at 5 am. they are really upset. this is not big donors, these are grassroots people. >> it is the emperor has no clothes? >> buckeyes -- do my fellow republicans care more about losing or storming the capitol, trying to overthrow the government? but he lost his already, and they all go back to him. i'm not convinced that is done. i think you're right about what happened on january 6th, he was weak. the reason he has not been we cordoned the now is because there's never been a viable long term eternity for now. this way, republicans can see the next real path. >> take this for example,, let's get places where trump to touch. running away head of herschel, whine, runs way ahead of j.d.. everywhere and.

you guys are making a logical argument. a point to. alyssa >> alyssa's point was the demonstrable effect. >> in three months, kevin mccarthy and re-scott are gonna be down at mar-a-lago begging for money. >> three weeks. >> do you think republicans shows donald trump in 2016 because they sat down and said, here is the guy who can lead us to victory? no, they did it because they had an emotional attachment. this is a vegas nerve thing. >> rick scott is having a meeting in three months. i mean, let's be honest, -- >> the agenda that he laid out this year was an albatross. >> one last pitch, if i do six better, it's the same to him. the center of the republican party is in florida and it is no longer at mar-a-lago, is tallahassee. ron desantis is where people

are gonna be going, not mar-a-lago. >> i think i just heard somebody in mar-a-lago scream. >> i think it's early. i think it's early, i'm going to agree with alyssa. that's why it looks like that. >> let's go back to friday night, what you think about the vote. here comes the president. >> good afternoon. well, we had an election yesterday. it was a good day i think for democracy. i think it's a good day for america. excuse me, i'm a little horse. our democracy has been tested recently with their votes. the american people have spoken, it show that democracy is who we are. the states across the country saw a good voter turnout. the heart and the soul of the democracy, election officials, they did their job and they fulfill their duty.

apparently, without much interference at all on any thing. that's destined to the american people. while, we don't know they're all the results yet, at least i don't know them all yet. here's what we do know. while the press and pundits are predicting a giant wet red wave, it didn't happen. i know you are somewhat obsessed and optimism. but i felt good during the whole process. i thought we were going to define. nec lost painful, some good democrats tend to win them last night. democrats had a strong night. we lost fewer seats in the house representatives than any midterm election, in the last four years. we had the best for governors since 1986. another thing we know is that voters spoke clearly about their concerns. about raising costs, rising

costs and the need to get inflation down. there are still a lot of people hurting, they are very concerned. it is about crime and public safety. they said a clear message. they want to preserve our democracy and protect the right to choose in this country. i especially want to thank the young people who untold, i would see the numbers, voted in historic numbers. just as they did two years ago. they voted to continue addressing the climate crisis, gun violence, their personal rights and freedoms. and the student debt relief. last night, i was pleased to call maxwell frost, the 25 year old who got elected, the youngest man ever elected to the united states congress. i told him that i was the first -- i was elected at 29. i have no doubt that he is off to an incredible start. one that i'm sure will be a

long distinguished career. when he is president, they say joe biden is out, i'm gonna say joe who? the voters are also clear that they are still frustrated. i get it, i understand it has been a really tough few years in this country for so many people. when i came to office, we inherited a nation with a pandemic raging and an economy that was reeling. we acted quickly and bully to vaccinate the country and create a stable and sustained growth in our economy. long term investment to rebuild america itself, our roads our bridges our ports are airports clean water systems high-speed internet. we are just getting started. the interesting thing is that this is all going to really come into clear view for people in the months on january, february, march of next year. it is just getting underway. i'm optimistic about how the public can be there. historic investments are leaving companies.

but really hundreds of billions of dollars are combined to build manufacturing here in america. that is gonna create hundreds of thousands of jobs. by the way, a significant number of those jobs are going to be jobs that pay on average, $147,000. you don't need a college degree to get those jobs. we are dealing with global inflation as a result of the pandemic and war in ukraine. we are also handling better than most other nations. we are lowering gas prices, lower prescription energy bills. the pandemic no longer controls our life, it is still a concern, but no longer controls our life. it created 10 million new jobs. since he came into office. unemployment rate is down from 6.4 when i was sworn in, to 3.7%.

it is that a 50-year low. all this while lowering the deficit at 1.7 trillion dollars. let me say it again, 1.7 trillion dollars. no administration has ever cut the deficit that much. reducing the federal deficit is one of the best things we can do to lauren fallacious. we made real progress as a nation, i know it's hard for folks to see that process, that progress in their everyday lives. it's hard to see the results from actions that we took that we have to implement. i believe we took the right steps, the country and for the american people. if you look at the polls, i don't look at the much anymore because i'm not sure how to read them anymore. i hope you are uncertain as well. but overwhelmingly, american people support my economic agenda. from rebuilding american roads

and bridges, lowering prescription drug costs, historic investments and tackling the climate crisis. to making sure that large corporations began to pay their fair share in taxes. i'm confident these policies are working and we are on the right path. we need to stick with him. all of these initiatives take hold as they do from lead pipes being removed from schools and homes to new factories being built in communities with resurgence of american manufacturing. that is already created, by the way, 700,000 brand-new manufacturing jobs. you've heard me say that, i don't know what's written that we can't be the manufacturing capital of the world. we are now exporting product, not jobs around the world. people across the country are going to see even more clearly the positive effects on their day-to-day lives. i still understand why they are hurting right now, so many people are concerned. as i have throughout my career, i'm going to continue to work

across the aisle to deliver for the american people. it is not always easy, but we did it in the first term. i'll be surprised, we signed over 200 laws since i have become president. we are our revitalizing american manufacturing, we did together. dozens of was are affecting our veterans. let me say this, regardless, regardless of what the final tally in these election show, there's still some counting going on. i'm prepared to work with my republican colleagues. the american people have made clear, i think, that they expect republicans to be prepared to work with me as well. in the area foreign policy, i hope we continue this bipartisan growth, confronting russia's aggression in ukraine. when i return from the g20 meetings in indonesia with the world leaders, i invite the leaders on both political parties, as i've done in the past to my foreign trips, to my white house so we can work

together for the remainder of this year and into the next congress to advance the economic and national security priorities of the united states. i'm open to any good ideas. i want to be very clear, i'm not going to support any republican who will make inflation worse. for example, the voters don't want to pay higher prescription cost for dogs, week with that now, we're going to kick into gear next year, next calendar year. i'm not going to walk away from the historic progress we just made to take on the climate crisis. they were not comprising issues to me. i won't let it happen. the voters don't want more taxes, tax cuts for the super wealthy and biggest corporations. i'm going to continue to focus on cost cutting for working and low class families and building an economy from up. i know you're tired of hearing you say that, but i generally mean it. that is what makes america grow. the wealthy do very well when the middle class is doing well.

the poor have a way up. while continuing to bring down the federal deficit. now, as we look at tax cuts, we should be looking at tax cuts for working people and middle class people. not the very wealthy, they are fine. look, if you can go out and be a multimillionaire, that is great. just pay your fair share, that's all. just pay your fair share. it's like those 55 corporations in 2000 and made 40 billion dollars and paid a penny in federal taxes. it's not right. everybody has an obligation. now they've to pay a staggering 15%. you will pay more than that in your taxes. so i'm going to keep my commitment that no one, no one earning less than 400,000 a year has a lot of money. they are not getting either federal taxes go up. i want to be very clear, under no circumstances will i support the proposal put forward by johnson and the senator down in florida to cut or make fundamental changes in social security medicare.

that is not on the table. i will not do that. i will veto any attempt to pass a national ban on abortion. but i'm ready to compromise where makes sense on many other issues. i put the needs and the issues in the american people. let me close with this, on this election season the american people made it clear. they don't want every day going forward to be a constant political battle. there's too much there, too much of that going on. there's too much that we have to deal with. the future of america's two promising, two promising to be trapped in an endless political warfare. i really mean that, you've heard me say time and time again for the last 20 months or so. i am so optimistic about the prospects for america. we need to be looking to the future, not focusing on the past. that future is bright as can be. we are the only nation the world to come out of every crisis stronger than we went

into the crisis. this is a fact, i literally mean that. we've come out stronger than we have gone in. i'm never vin more optimistic about america's future than today. you know, i particularly, because of all those young people, 18 to 30, they're showing up, they are the best educated generation in american history. there are the least prejudiced generation, the most engaged, the most involved. look, after a long campaign season, i still believe as ours have. this is a great nation and we are great people. it has never been a good bet to bet against america, never been a good bet to bet against america. there is nothing, nothing beyond our capacity. if we work together. we just need to remember who we are. we are the united states of america. that of america. there's nothing beyond our capacity. i'm pretty well convinced that we are going to be able to get a lot done. i've been given a list of ten

people that i'm supposed to call on. they are all supposed to ask me one question, i'm sure you ask me more. so let me start off with the wrist list i've been given. zeke miller, associated press. as you mentioned, as you mentioned. >> how can we never hold you to the same standard that you hold us to? i am teasing. >> you mentioned that americans are frustrated and then fact, 75% of voters say the country is heading in the wrong direction despite the results of last night. what are the next two years do you intend to do differently to change peoples opinion of the direction of the country, particularly as you contemplate for president in 2024? >> nothing because they are finding out what we are doing. the more they know about what we are doing, the more support there is. do you know anybody who wants us to get rid of or changes that we made on prescription drug prices and raise prices again? anybody who wants to walk away

from building those roads and bridges and the internet, so on? i don't know, i think that the problem is that the major piece of legislation that we have passed, aren't some are bipartisan takes time to be recognized. for example, you have over a trillion dollars worth of infrastructure money. not that many spaces to put in the ground is taking time. for example, i was on the phone congratulating a californian recently. and then somebody in, up in scranton, pennsylvania. the congressman got elected. he's acting almost make sure we are able to have high speed rail service. from scranton to new york. new york city. i said yes we, can we can. first of, all it would make it a lot easier to take a lot of vehicles off of the road. and we have more money in the pot now, already out there that we voted for. than the entire money that we spent on the act struck to

begin with. the same way, we talked about through the campaign that we will limit the cost of insulin for seniors to $35 a month instead of 400 a month. it does not take effect till next year. so there is a lot of things that are starting to kick in. and the same way with what we have done in terms of the environmental stuff. it takes time to get it moving. so i will not change, a matter of fact there are some things that i want to change and add to. for example, we pass the most bipartisan. pass the most extensive gun legislation, rational gun policy and 30 years. but we did not ban assault weapons. i will ban assault weapons, i will try like the double. i am not going to change direction, as that iran for three reasons. i will continue to stay, i fully understand the legitimate concern that what i am saying is wrong. okay? one is that i said we will restore the soul of the country.

we get the truth each other with decency, honor, integrity. and it is starting to happen. the conversations are becoming more normal. becoming more how can i say it? decent. second thing i said was i wanted to build their country from the middle out to bottom up. that, way everybody does fine. i am tired of the trickle down. not a whole lot trickles down when you trickle down to hardworking folks. that third, thing i know it is still very hard and i will do everything in my power to seep through to reunite the country. it's hard to sustain yourself as a leading democracy in the world if you can generate some -- i will not change anything, any fundamental way. >> on the topic, mister president russia today claim that it had evacuated the kherson region and the kherson city. do you believe that this is intentionally a reflection point in that conflict and you believe that ukraine now has the leverage that it needs to begin peace negotiations with

moscow? >> first of all, i found it interesting they waited after the election to make that judgment. which we knew for sometime that there were going to be doing. and i said this is the fact that they have some real problems. with the russian military. number, one number to whether or not that leads to the minimum, it will lead to time for everyone to recalibrate the positions over the winter period. and remains to be seen, whether or not will be a judgment made as to, whether or not ukraine is prepared to compromise with russia. i will be going to the g20. i am told that president putin is not likely to be, there other world leaders will be there in indonesia. and we will have an opportunity to see what the next steps may be. nancy, cbs, nancy. >> thank you mister president,

i have a question. i have been saving them up. first of all, republican leader kevin mccarthy said last night that it is clear we are going to take the house back. do you think he is probably right about that? >> based on what we know as of today, we have lost very few seats for certain. we still have a possibility of keeping the house. it will be close, for example and in nevada, we won all three of those seats, contested seats and i spoke for each of those folks. we won them all, i did not know that last night. it's a moving target right now but it'll be very close. >> can you describe your relationship with mr. mccarthy? how often do you speak to him? what do you think of him? i think is a republican leader and i have not had much of occasion to talk to him but i will be talking to him i think i'm talking to him later today. >> when it comes to legislative agenda, when you are vice

president you legislative agenda basically ran into a brick wall two years in one republicans took control of the house. and that lasted for the rest of the obama presidency. is there any way for you to prevent that same fate from happening this time around? if republicans take control? >> yes because it'll be much closer if they take control. look, the predictions were and again i am not being critical of anybody making that prediction okay? this is supposed to be a red wave, you guys were talking about us losing 30 to 50 seats. and that is not going to happen. and so there is always enough people on the other team, whether democrat a republican that the opposite party can make an appeal to, maybe pick them off to get the help. and, so it remains to be seen but look, i doubt whether or not for example, all of the talk and i ask and i don't expect you to answer but a rhetorical question.

do you think that you know, senator johnson is going to move to medicare and social security? and if we, does how many republicans will vote for it? so it depends. >> and my final question, republicans have made it clear that if they do take control of the house, that they want to launch a rack of investigations on day one into your handling of afghanistan, the border. they want to look in some of your cabinet officials. they want to investigate you and they may even want to investigate your son. what is your message to republicans who are considering investigating your family, and particularly your son hunter's business dealings? >> lots of luck in your senior year as my coach used to say. i think american public wants to move on and get things done for them. and you know, i heard that there were reported whether it's accurate or not, i am not

sure but reported many times that republicans are saying, that former president said how many times will you impeach biden? an impeachment proceeding against biden. i think that the american people will look at all of that for what it is. it's just almost comedy. but look, i cannot control what they will do. all i can do is continue to try and make life better for american people. okay, phil. phil mattingly, cnn. >> thank you mister president, i have 37 questions. i am kidding. sir, a fund-raiser last month you said, quote the rest of the world is looking at this election about the good guys and the bad guys. you noted that you are going to the twenties and a couple of days. you will come face to face with many of those leaders. the same moment that your predecessor is considering launching his reelection effort. how should those world leaders, both good guys and bad guys view this moment both for america and for your presidency? >> first of all, world leaders

know they're doing better than anybody else in the world in a practical matter. notwithstanding the difficulties that we have our economy is growing, we saw the last report, we are still growing the 2.6%. we are creating jobs. we are still in a solid position. not many other countries in the world that are in that position. and i promise you, from the telephone calls that i still haven't from the media to heads of state, look at the united states. they are saying how are you, doing what are you doing? what can we do together? so i think that the vast majority of my colleagues, at least the colleagues who are nato members, european union, japan, south korea, et cetera. i think they're looking to cooperate and wanting to know how we can help one another. and what was the other question? >> oh i am sorry. >> one way to follow up on that is you noted, that he felt like there was a shift in terms of people being willing to show more decency and this moment.

you have often talked about breaking the fever or kind of a transition from this moment that we faced over the last several years. do you like the election is what represents that. do you feel like the fever is broken i guess? >> well i don't think that we will break the fee there for the super mega maga republicans. but i think they are a minority of the republican party. i think the vast majority of the members of the republican party, we disagree strongly on issues but they are decent, honorable people. we have differences of agreement on on issues. but there you know, i work with a lot of these folks in the senate. and the house for a long time. and you know, they are honest and they are straightforward. the differences are other than mine but they are decent folks. and so, i think that the rest of the world and a lot of you covered other parts of the world and you know. the rest of the world looked at the united states.

i guess the best way to say this is to repeat what some of you heard me say before. the first g7 meeting for the republic, that is the seven largest democracies when i went to right after we got elected in february after i got sworn in in january. and i sat down at a table, a roundtable with the six other world leaders from european union and canada, it sattre. and i said that america is back. and one of them turned to me and, said for how long? for how long? it was a deadly, on this question. for how long? and i looked at him, and another one on to say and i will not name him. went on to say, what would you say joe if in fact we went to bed tonight here in england, woke up the next morning and found out that thousand people had stormed the parliament of

great britain. gone down the hall, broken down the doors, two cops ended up dying. number of people injured and they try to stop a confirmation of an election. it is not the same situation obviously. and they said, what would you think? and i asked rhetorical question, what would you all think? you are thinking it was really in trouble. you would think democracy was on the edge of that happen in great britain. and so, that is the way that people were looking at us. like when is this going to stop? nothing like this has happened since the civil war, i don't want to exaggerate but literally. nothing like this has happened since the civil war. and so, what i find is that they want to know, is the united states stable? do we know what we are about? are we the same democracy that we have always been?

because look, the rest of the world looks to, us i don't mean the world that we are always right. but as the united states tomorrow or to quote withdraw from the world, a lot of things will change around the world. a whole lot would change. and so they are very concerned that we are still the open democracy that we have been. and that we have rules in the institutions matter. and that is the context in which i think that they are looking at are we back to a place where we are going to accept decisions made by the court and by the congress. by the government, et cetera. >> -- was tied to your predecessor, who is about to launch another campaign. how do you reassure them that that is the reason for their questioning? not the former president will not return, that his political movement which is still very strong will not able to get and

take power in the united states? >> [laughter] we have to demonstrate that he will not take power by if he does run, making sure that he is under legitimate efforts of the constitution does not become the next president again steve, rioters. steve. >> how do you interpret last night's results in terms of deciding whether you want to seek another term? is it now more likely that you will run? what will be your timeline for consideration? >> first of all, jill and i am by the way, my wife jill. who has a lot more popular than i am in the democratic party to. anyway, all kidding aside, our intention is to run again. that been our intention. regardless of what the outcome of this election was.

and, the fact that we won, we i did not run. the fact that the democratic party out performed anything anybody expected and it better than any of your presidency since john kennedy as one that gives everybody like, oh. a sigh of relief that the maga republicans are not taking over the government again, et cetera. and so, my judgment of running when i announce, if i and my intention is that i will run again. but i emigrate respect of defeat and this is ultimately, a family decision. i think everybody wants me to run, but we will have discussions about it. and i don't feel any hurry, one way or another. whether to make that judgment, or today, tomorrow, whenever no matter what my predecessor

does. but >> early next, year what is your -- >> my guess is, i hope joe and i get time to actually sneak away for a week or between christmas and thanksgiving. and my guess is, it would be early next, year we make that judgment. but my plan to do it now but okay. i am sorry, karen. karen travers of abc radio. >> thank you mister president. wnba star, brittney griner today was moved to a russian penal colony to serve out her nine year sentence. do you have an update right now on her condition? what do you know about that? and this is mark a new phase and negotiations with the russians to secure her release? can the u.s. now fully engage and talks on a prisoner swap? >> we have been engaging on a regular basis, i have been spending a fair amount of time

with her wife. about what is going on with her. and my guess is, my hope is that now that the election is over, that mr. putin will be able to discuss with us and be willing to talk more seriously about prisoner exchange. that is my intention, my intention is to get her home. and we have had a number of discussions so far. and i am hopeful that now that our election is over, there is a willingness to negotiate more on this specifically on this. thank you. >> and if i can, your press secretary had said that the u.s. government has continued to follow up on that significant offer. also, proposed alternative, potential ways forward with the russians. can you tell us what those alternative ways forward are and how russia has responded to those? >> yes i can but i won't. i mean it would not be a wise thing to do in order to see if they would move forward.

but it is my, i am telling you that i am determined to get her home and get her home safely. along with others i might add. april ryan the. of thegrio, excuse me. i beg your pardon. >> thank you sir. >> i got a right last time we did this. >> yes you did. mister president, i have a couple questions on several issues. one this cream court. as you know, the supreme court has before the issue of college admissions and affirmative action. what can and are you planning in case of a rollback that is expected? there are legal analysts that say that there will be drastic implications, tentacles from this and they even say that this could impact -- the decision from brown v. ford. >> well first of, all asked the justice department to defend

the present policy before the supreme court. unlike a lot of pollutants, i'm not prepared to believe that the supreme court is going to overrule the existing decision. that is far from certain. i don't believe that. but number one, number one what i tried to change is object to it, before the supreme court of the united states. our administration. number two, i there are a number of things that we can and must do to make it. by the way, this is a case involving an asian american, in terms of getting into school. and whether there is affirmative action, makes sense at all from the standpoint of those who are arguing against it. but you know, the fact is that we are also under circumstance where there is a lot not we can do in the meantime to make sure that there isn't access to good

education across the board. and that is by doing things, relating and starting to education at age three, former schooling at age three. which increases not daycare about school. all of the studies over tenure show that that increases the prospect of somebody making it through 12 years without any difficulty, no matter what the background that they come from. by 56%. and i also think that we should be making sure that we have the ability to provide for two years of education beyond that. whether it's apprenticeships or community colleges. and we also in a situation where i think that for example, i want to make sure that a lot of it has to do with finances as well. and we make sure that we have help for people who come from modest means to be able to get to school. the cost of college education is increased fourfold. and it used to be a pilgrims would cover something like 70%

of the college to asian. now it covers significantly less than that. i want to increase the programs as well. and let's see what the supreme court decides. i am hopeful and our team on the lawyers are arguing for us are not nearly as certain as the people you quoted us saying, it'll be overruled. >> last questions are. the issue is inflation. they're great oh conducted a study of black voters. that said inflation was the number one issue. and we saw in this midterm election. what can you promise concretely in the next two years that will help turn the pocketbook for the better in the midst of staving off a recession? >> a number of things. first of, all on black unemployment is almost cut in half under my administration since i began. more black businesses opened up, small businesses than ever before. we are now in a situation where

we are providing through the small business administration, down payment for people buying homes. most people accumulate wealth and the value of their home. most middle class families are like mine, my dad bought a home and not just script together to get a home. by the time that he was able to retire, he had buildup equity in the home. that is how most people do that. and so what i cannot do, i cannot guarantee that we are going to be able to get rid of inflation. i do think that we can. we have already brought down the across the board and i think that the oil companies are really doing the nation a real disservice. they've made -- six of them made over $100 billion in the last quarter in profit. $100 billion. in the past, if they had done the two things they have done

before, one, invest in more refineries and producing more product and/or passing on the rebase of the gas stations or, you know, they sell the oil at a cheaper rate than they have to -- than they are selling it now, not taking advantage and that lowers the price of the total gallon of gas because that gets passed on. so there is a whole lot of things we can do that are difficult to do but we're going to continue to push to do them, and the other thing is that one of the things that makes a gigantic difference is what are the costs that exist in the average family and average black community? one, prescription drug costs. well, we're driving those down p next year. i bet you know a lot of people in the african american and caucasian community that need to take insulin for diabetes. we'll reducing that cost and

they won't pay more than $35 for the insulin instead of an average of $400 and i can go down the list of things. my dad used to say it a different way. at the end of the month, the things you have to pay for from your mortgage to food on the table, to gasoline in the automobile, do you have enough money to do it? and when it's done, do you have anything left over? and medical bills are a big piece of that. particularly in the african american community and poorer communities, they need help. and so we're driving down all of those costs and we already passed the legislation to do that. it's just taking effect. there are a lot of things we can do to affect the things we need to do on a monthly basis to reduce their inflation and cost of living and so -- but i am optimistic because we continue to grow and at a rational pace we are not anywhere near a recession right now in terms of the growth, but i think we can

have what most economists call a soft landing. i'm convinced that we're going to be able to gradually bring down prices so they they in fact have us not move into recession to get control of inflation. >> mr. president, last question, everybody else got some. last -- well, you're coming. >> go ahead. >> last question on humanity. sir, you can't legislate and you can't executive order out the issue of empathy or the lack thereof in the midst of this rhetoric, this heated political rhetoric. what's next? >> part of what i think leadership requires and i hope i meet the standard is letting people know you understand their problem. again, my dad used to have an expression. he said i don't expect the government to solve my problems

but i expect them to at least know what they are, understand them. and like a lot of you, we've been very fortunate as a family who have also been through a lot of fairly tough times. and it's not -- and i've had the great advantage of having a family to get through them. my first wife and daughter were killed when a tractor trailer broadsided them and killed my wife -- killed my first wife and killed my daughter and my two boys were expected to die. took the jaws of life three hours to get them out on top of their dead mother and dead sister. i understand what that pain is like and what jill and i lost beau after a year in iraq, a major in the united states army came home with cancer because he lived 200 to 500 yards with a burn feet ten foot deep and as big as a football field burning

every toxic waste you can find. i think we understand what it's like to lose family members, mothers, fathers. we've all been through that kind of thing. we've been fortunate, though. we had each other. we had strong families, jill's sisters, my brother, my sister, what we can do to deal with the empathy is make sure there is help available. make sure there is people who are there to help whether they are a psychologist or medical doctors or whether they're social workers. to be there to help. to help just hold a hand. and for example, we can do an awful lot for a lot of families, the families you're talking about if we reestate this child tax credit cut child poverty by 40% when in place. i couldn't get it passed the second time around. there is a lot we can do. it's communicating to people you

again well genuinely understand. i don't want people to know the pain but the second piece of that is let them know that you are there to help. you're there to help. and one of the things i've talked about and a lot of you have written about it and written well about it is the need for mental health care in america. you know, when we got elected, there were something like, i don't know, two, three, 5 million people that got their covid shots. well, not meantime, i got over 220 million people all three shots but in the meantime, what happened? we lost over a million dead. a million dead. i read one study for those million people, on average had nine people close to them, a

relative, a child, someone close. the impact has been profound. been profound. think of all the people, think of all your children and your grandchildren who didn't have that senior prom, who didn't have that graduation party, who didn't have all the things we had that we took for granted. the impact on the psyche. so there is a lot we have to do and empathy reflects itself not just in what a person demonstrates to understand, of knowing what people need and helping to make it happen. and we're trying to do that and a lot of republicans try to do it, too. i don't mean this as partisan. a lot of people are trying to do it because they know we got a problem. okay. excuse me. these ten questions are really going quickly. [ laughter ] well, i've got to meet with some of my -- talk to some of the

republican leadership soon but anyway, jenny leonard, bloomberg? >> thank you, mr. president. two questions, one shifting back to your trip to asia. when you meet with president pxi jinping of china, will you tell him you're committed to defending taijuan military and what are you hoping to get out of this meeting that will make it a success? are you willing to make any concessions with him? >> i'm not willing to make fundamental concessions because what i've told him from the beginning and this is -- we've -- i've spent over 78, i think they told me, hours with him so far. 67, seven in person when i was vice president. president obama knew he couldn't spend time with the vice president of another country so i traveled 17,000 miles with him in china and around the united states. i met with him many times. and i've told him i'm looking for competition, not conflict so what i want to do with him when

we talk is layout what kind of each of our red lines are. understand what he believes to be in the critical national interest of china, what i know to be the critical interest of the united states and determine whether or not they conflict with one another. if they do, how do we resolve it and how to work it out and so in taijuan doctrine has not changed at all from the very beginning. the very beginning. so i'm sure we'll discuss china. excuse me, taijuan and i'm sure we'll discuss a number of other issues including fair trade and relationships relating to his relationship with other countries in the region. and anyway there's a lot to discuss. you want another question? everyone else got one.

>> will you tell xi jinping you're personally committed to defending taijuan. >> i'll have that conversation with him. >> i actually have an unrelated question, too. mr. president, do you think elon musk is a threat to u.s. national security and should the u.s. and with the tools you have investigate his joint acre ses acquisition with twitter and foreign governments like the saudis? [ laughter ] >> i think that elon musk's cooperation and/or technical relationships with other countries is worthy of being looked at. whether or not he is doing anything inappropriate, i'm not suggesting that. i'm suggesting at worst being

looked at and -- and that's all i'll say. >> how? >> there's a lot of ways. all right. kristen welker? >> thank you so much, mr. president. i appreciate it. i want to follow up with you on working with republicans. leader mccarthy again suggested that he is not prepared to write what he says a blank check to ukraine and yet, you expressed optimism that funding for ukraine would continue, that the policies toward ukraine would continue. why should the people of ukraine and this country have confidence in that given the comments by leader mccarthy and just to follow up with you on your comments to zeke, you said you don't need to do anything differently. if republicans control the house, don't you need to

recalibrate to some extent to try to work across the aisle with the republican led house? >> well, let me put it this way. what i meant is i don't have to change the policies that have already passed. that's what they said they want to go after. what i have is a simple proposition. i have a pen to veto. that's what i mean. i don't have to recalibrate whether i'm going to continue to fund -- we're going to continue to fund the infrastructure bill or we're going to continue to fund the environment, et cetera. we have to -- i hope -- there is a growing pressure on the part of the american people expecting both parties and all elements of both parties to work out their substantive differences and not just -- i'm not going to do that because it would benefit that

party. just make it personal. so i -- and, you know, it remains to be seen what the makeup of the house will be but i'm hopeful that kevin and i can work out how we'll proceed with one another. >> so will aid to ukraine continue uninterrupted? >> that is my expectation. and by the way, we've not given ukraine a blank check. there's a lot of things ukraine wants that we didn't do. for example, i was asked whether we provide american aircraft to guarantee the skies over ukraine. i said no we're not going to do that. we're not going to get into a third world war taking on russian aircraft and directly engage but would we provide them with all the rational ability to defend themselves? yes. we will fly high mars, there is

two kinds of -- and the average person's rockets you can drop in those. one that goes over 600 miles and one that goes about 160 miles. we didn't give them any ones that go over 600 miles because i'm not looking for them to start bombing russian territory. we want to make sure there is a relationship that they're able to defend themselves and take on what is purely a -- the ugliest aggression that's occurred since world war ii on a massive scale on the part of putin within ukraine. and there is so much at stake. so i would be surprised if leader mccarthy even has a majority of his republican colleagues who say they're not going to fund the legitimate defensive needs of ukraine. >> and just a quick one, obviously, a lot of attention on 2024 now that the votes have been cast in the midterms. two-thirds of americans in exit

polls say they don't think you should run for reelection. what is your message to them and how does that factor into your final decision about whether or not to run for reelection? >> it doesn't. >> what's your message to them, to those two of thirds -- >> watch me. [ laughter ] >> okay. one more very quickly. we saw governor ron desantis with a resounding victory in florida last night. who do you think would be a tougher competitor, ron desantis or former president trump and how is that factoring into your decision? >> it would be fun watching them take on each other. all right, david singer? >> thank you, mr. president. i also have a question for you about china but before i do, i want to follow up on something you said earlier. you said it remains to be seen whether the ukraine government is prepared to compromise with russia. previously you've told us the only thing for the russians to

do is get completely out of ukraine, go back to the lines that existed prior to february 24. are you suggesting with the word compromise you think there is room for compromise? >> that's up to the ukrainians. nothing about ukraine without ukraine. >> what kind of compromise did you have in mind? >> i didn't have any in mind. you've asked the question whether or not if i recall, whether or not what would happen if in fact, after the -- i think the context is that whether or not they are pulling back from fallujah and -- i mean, from the kherson, the city of kherson and they're coming back across the river to the eastern side of the river, the russian forces. and i said what's going to happen is they're going to both lick their wounds, decide what they're going to do over the winter and decide whether or not they're going to compromise. that's what's going to happen,

whether or not. i don't know what they're going to do but i know one thing, we're not going to tell them what they have to do. >> you were asked before about your meeting with president xi, at this point, the chinese government by the estimate of the pentagon is getting ready to bring their force of nuclear weapons up to over 1,000 weapons, significant increase from what they've had for many decades. you've seen the threats from president putin about the use of his nuclear -- >> remember how you-all went after me when i said that was real? >> and what would happen? do you think he backed off -- >> no, no, i'm just saying. i found it interesting that biden is being an extremist, and it turns out you-all are writing about it now. kind of fascinating. >> so my question is do you think that they are putting together a real alliance with

the chinese and the russians and do you believe that you need to begin speaking with president xi about some form of arms control if he's going to get up to a level of weapons similar to what the united states and russia have right now? >> no and yes. no, i don't think there is a lot of respect china has for russia or putin. i don't think they look at that as a particular alliance. matter of fact, they've been sort of keeping their distance a little bit. i do think that -- it remains to be seen whether xi jinping decided that or backed off his initial judgement that he wanted ukraine -- excuse me, china to have the most powerful military in the world as well as the largest economy. and but he's a long way from both. but i think talk about nuclear weapons and location and number of them and access is important

to discuss. thank you-all so very, very much. thank you very, very much. we'll do another -- we'll do another hour a little later. thank you so much. thank you. >> do we expect you to do more of these in the future? >> all right. president biden heading out. a lot more questions being asked of him. the president gave a -- i think it's fair to say a robust defense of his administration saying he would work with republicans and meet with republicans and was eager to do bipartisan work if necessary but he laid out a number of issues where he was not willing to compromise and of course, there

were a number of other issues that reports asked about including taijuan, ukraine and much more. dana, you said before his address that he would come out. you thought he would come out and extend an olive branch a bit to the republicans and i think it's fair to say he did that. >> he did with limitations. he did it with a not so subtle dig at the republicans who were accused of and maybe rightly so having to plan to cut medicare and social security and of course, he said he wouldn't touch anything on abortion but it was very interesting that maybe about four minutes into his speech, he got to a phrase and he said voters are frustrated. i get it. it's been a tough few years. i would not be surprised if in an earlier version of this opening remarks, that was the top.

that was where he was going to start when they thought they were going to get -- be in a much worse position than they were and then that moved down and he started with we thought that -- everybody said there was going to be a red wave. there wasn't. we defied history and we defied to the odds and he eventually got to the i feel your pain moment. >> he started where i expected him to start on the feeling this was a watershed moment for democracy, that that message that he pressed on in the end had some impact on voters. people may disagree with that but i think the results seem to show a lot of the people who biden would characterize as threats to democracy did not win their campaigns, but where my ears really pricked up is when he started talking about what he said voters said clearly. he said they clearly said that their concerns were about rising cost and inflation and crime and public safety.

this is very clearly a white house that understands not to over read -- this is not any kind of mandate but not to over read what happened last night and that yeah, i mean, in addition to the other factors, voters do in fact care about the economy. that is very clear. whether or not they kicked democrats at whole sale over that one issue may not have happened but biden seemed to a acknowledge today he believes that's a top priority. >> jake, if joe biden was extending on olive branch to house republicans, there weren't many olives on it. on one hand he said i hope we can work together. the american people want us to work together but he all talked about is things he wouldn't deal with, that he wasn't going to entertain any thoughts about an abortion ban or cuts to me medicare, to medicaid tax cuts for the wealthy, any changes to his prescription drug and said any kind of investigation was almost a comedy and at one point when they asked him what are you

going to do? how are you going to act differently? he said i got a pen and i'll veto. there wasn't a single specific area where he said this is a specific policy that i think we can pursue. i thought it was a pretty empowered president. he certainly wasn't as someone said earlier, david axelrod, triumph but not giving a quarter to republicans. >> it was interesting because he was asked what does he think of kevin mccarthy and he answered i think he's the republican leader. you could say he's a nice guy. he's a fellow well met. he's charming. no, i think he's the republican leader. so there was certainly a statement in that. >> yeah, i have to say that made me laugh a little bit. very much a statement there. mccarthy has some pretty tough sledding ahead of him before i think we're really going to know how that relationship between mccarthy and the president is really going to shake out. i thought what he said about investigations that the house may launch was an interesting

one. mccarthy is going to come under more pressure in a more narrow majority to launch more investigations that we've seen him kind of try to tamp that down a little bit in the waning weeks of the campaign and say that's impeachment talk, i don't know but with things shaking out the way they are or seem to be in terms of who will control the house of representatives and by how much? that will make mccarthy's life harder than they would have been able to if the majority was bigger. i think my question -- you're actually right on the policy in terms of biden didn't give any ground on -- >> anything. >> but there are going to be key pivot points where and biden in his career has been involved in these before for example he negotiated with mcconnell and dana you were there for that. they don't have to raise the debt ceiling and republicans are going to hold that hostage. >> unless they do it in the lame-duck session and there are a lot of people -- a lot of people are hoping, both republicans and democrats they

get it done with the democrats in the majority. so republicans don't have to deal with that. >> and what he was trying to say and i hear what you're saying when you said there weren't a lot of olives on the branch and be patient and nobody seen it and the question was written in a way it won't kick in. i have to talk about 2024 for a se second. you know, you can't actually make the announcement there for a lot of reasons but it did not give an inch on that. >> i guess we don't expect him to but that to me was the 2024 take away. >> i don't know how many times joe biden needs to say i intend to do the thing -- >> different posts midterms. >> yeah, i mean, i think biden has had this demeanor about 2024

for sometime now and whenever he is asked about a rematch against trump, there is a confidence there. he believes that he's the guy who did it once and can do it again and i think what we saw today, he kind of softed at this idea he was asked about the exit polls where most americans said they don't want him to rub again. most democrats brushed it off. maybe there is a deserving or not. >> there was also bravado about trump when somebody said to him, you know he's got a lot of support and he went yeah. not after last night. >> i think that was phil. it's interesting about watch me. because when i interviewed president biden a few weeks ago, i said you say watch me and the american people have been watching you and they don't want you to run for reelection, democrats, people who like you. and he shifted.

he shifted his answer. it was like look at what i've done and i thought that maybe they had just -- they had just changed instead of watch me because obviously, we all see him ageing. this happens to presidents and all of us inevitably. we all see you can watch him and you see that he's noticeably older, but i thought he was going to lean on his accomplishments but he's back to watch me today. >> i think he thinks the politics -- in the context of last night, right, or the other side of the story is that was a bad night last night for donald trump. his candidates did not perform well. i think it was an embarrassment to him and the converse of it ron deseesantis doing really we weakens trump. i think biden is responding to that environment and saying this g guy. >> totally a sigh of relief in a 2024 context. >> he also expressed eagerness

to watch desantis and trump go after each other. >> it could not be better. >> i get it. we're all political junkies. >> thanks very much. i want to ask what you thought from what we saw from president biden and the response about running for president again. >> when i announce, if i -- my intention is i'll run again, but i'm a great respecter of fate and this is ultimately a family decision. i think everyone wants me to run but we'll have discusses about it and i don't feel any hurry one way or another whether to make that judgment today, tomorrow, whatever. no matter what my predecessor does. my guess is early next year we'll make that judgment. my plan to do it. >> what do you think? >> i think this is pretty

consistent with what he's been saying. he's clearly -- he clearly wants to run. i don't think there is any doubt about that. when he says i'm a respecter of fate, that's a nod to the fact he's going to be 80 and he has to take that into account, but, you know, i think his whole statement might have been different today if he weren't seriously thinking about doing it or planning to do it because so much of his statement included kind of a recitation of his accomplishments and, you know, kind of wish -- i think yesterday was a big -- as i said before hand was a big moment for the country and he could have celebrated that moment and talked about the message people were sending and run everything through that prism, you know, people want -- they don't want extremism, they want progress. they don't want crazy. they want responsible and then if you got a question on trump,

i think the obvious answer to that is donald trump doesn't represent those things. donald trump represents something else and the country chose a different path yesterday. so i think that was a strong message. >> scott -- >> i think that would have been effective. >> cnn exit poll do you want biden to run for president in 2024? yes, 30%. no, 67%. biden approval 44. now, favorable rating for donald trump was 39. one of the things about this election that is clear to me is that the american people are screaming for anything other than a rematch here. they'd rather pick two names out of the phone book and run them against each other than trump and biden and i know he wants to run and i agree, you can tell he wants to run again. this election is not begging joe biden to run again. this is we like you a little more than trump backed candidates and that is it and you can easily over read it. this is a clear number.

>> i want to talk about what the president said about the trump movement. >> i don't think we're going to break the fever for the super mega maga republicans. i mean, i think they're a minority of the republican party. i think the vast majority of the members of the republican party, we disagree strongly on issues but they're descent, honorable people. >> i don't think that branding is particularly helpful but joe biden wakes up in a different america today where many republicans, serious republicans are saying maybe it's not donald trump. maybe it's a ron desantis or different republican. that's not personally my take but that's what many powerful people in the party are saying and as he's weighing a calculations about running again, he needs to not just look at the head-to-head with trump. that's where he thinks he fairs well. "the new york times" showed trump two weeks ago beating him head-to-head. he needs to think about if it's a different candidate, might be a time for change and to

axelrod's point, are they grooming someone for that? do they have someone teed up? >> i think for most people watching us, regular folks, they're just trying to figure out okay, something big happened. where is the hope going to come from? where is the help going to come from? how is this going to help me? i thought he did good on two things but bad on the other. it was good to speak up for decency. he could have done more of it. that's medicine for people. he's reminding people we're good. it was good to remind people of the good things he's done when it comes to the infrastructure and prescription drugs and trying to get gas prices down because people forget there is stuff coming. help is on the way. i think where he missed an opportunity was and now since the country wants us to come together, here is what we can do together, there could be a grand bargain on immigration. right now. there could be a grand bargain on voting. right now. and he left that part out. and so that's the part i think is -- was my disappointment. >> van, what do you think about what scott jennings said, which

is that people don't want him to run again? >> i think people love him. i think people appreciate him. i think people don't want him to run again. i think he has an opportunity to exit on a high note if you will. >> here was sort of the thing that struck me, which is when he was asked would you change anything, he said no. now, you have 75% of the country saying that we're headed in the wrong direction. 75% believe we are in a recession. and then the president -- you know, in a way to try to brag about himself and what he's done, of course, and to talk about how republicans would threaten your social security and your medicare, he said he just wouldn't do anything different because of course, our achievements take a long time to be recognized. that's insulting people. and i don't think that was a good answer from the president. >> so listen, i thought he started out very strong, right? it's a good day for democracy, very optimistic and nice tone.

i think he drags on but to highlight gloria's point, he started out these three things i think i'm going to do. these are three things that have very important and the third is unity. i'll work to unity. this is why the guy got elected in the first place because people are tired of the d dividing. what are you going to do differently? nothing. what do you think of kevin mccarthy? >> he's a guy. >> and by the way, i'm coming for your guns republicans. we're going to have an assault weapons ban. let me go through the issues. that's not a guy looking for unity. doesn't scream unity. so i thought he should have kept the speech tight, short, optimistic like david was talking about, you know, big picture, flowery, drop the mike and walk out. >> doesn't that show he's conflicted in an odd -- his answer on running, it's my intention to run but i have to

talk to my wife about it and i want to be unified but republicans are going to take away your social security and medicare -- >> no -- >> i'm sorry. >> no, i'm done. >> look, as a human being can you imagine getting beat up all the time, your own party saying you suck and want to throw you out and republicans calling you everything but charlie god and then you win? so i think he's crossed pressured. >> you're right. being president of the united states is a hard job, man. because you're expected to be -- you're expected to be big and sometimes it's hard to do that but this -- and, you know, look, i don't have a big coral with what -- he's proud of what he did, he's done. he wants to talk about it but this was an opportunity to tell a story about the country, to be really big and tell a story about the country and i think it was a missed opportunity. >> we should also point out he didn't win. >> although he did say -- at one point he said we won and he corrected himself, we did better

than people thought. >> it wasn't about him. you know, the point is, i mean, if you look at these -- at the exit polls, there were a fair number of people who didn't have a favorable opinion of his performance in office who vote for the democrats because it was about something larger and the alternative. they wanted to beat extremism. >> 80% of americans were angry last night. >> about the economy. >> not just dissatisfied by angry. >> a number of democrats outperformed biden last night and that wasn't really acknowledged and there was a bit of i alone can fix it. agree with the unity message but the problems that we're facing are not things that joe biden can fix and he's not even opening the door to the possibility -- >> he could have said to van's point there are places we can work together. we could solve the opioid crisis for example and take a look at

technology together for example. maybe even a little on i'm immigration, dreamer, whatever. he didn't pick that up because i think, you know, he understands who he's dealing with. >> assault weapons. >> yeah, he went with assault weapons, which is democratic. >> quick break. we'll go live to arizona, nevada for the latest on the undecided races in the key battle grounds that are critical for senate control and talk to the governor-elect of maryland, wes moore the first african american to win that office. there is much more ahead on "election night in america." th? maybe jacob can finally get a job. the house whisperer! this house says use realtor.com to see homes in your budget. you're staying in school, jacob! realtor.com. to each their home.

i'm a coastal lodge. i might sound fancy but i'm pretty down to earth. no flashy lights or big city noise here. i'm looking for someone who enjoys the soothing sounds of the ocean and taking in the view. i may have a rocky exterior but i've got soft pillows and breakfast on the house. so, if you're looking for a warm place to stay, toss another log on the fire.

i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪things are getting clearer♪ ♪i feel free to bare my skin♪ ♪yeah, that's all me♪ ♪nothing and me go hand in hand♪ ♪nothing on my skin♪ ♪that's my new plan♪ ♪nothing is everything♪ achieve clearer skin with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. in another study, most people had 90% clearer skin, even at 4 years. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪it's my moment, so i just gotta say♪ ♪nothing is everything♪ serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections, or a lower ability to fight them, may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. ♪nothing is everything♪ now's the time to ask your doctor about skyrizi, the number one dermatologist prescribed biologic.

learn how abbvie could help you save.

it's election night in america. continuing control of congress remains on the line this hour. this midterm election defying expectations keeping us all guessing about the final outcome. we're following all the races that are still too close to call as well as critical contests that have been decided and shaking up the political landscape including a historic decision in maryland, wes moore

will become the state's first ever african american governor and only the third african american elected governor in u.s. history. governor-elect wes moore joins us live from baltimore. governor-elect, good to see you again. you were once a guest on my show and now you're the governor-elect. i know you say that history -- the history that matters most is the history you make in the next four years. your accomplishments. if i can ask you what does this ground breaking moment mean for you personally? you're in baltimore right now. you're the only the third ever african american elected governor in the history of these united states. tell us about the significance of this to you personally, if you could. >> it means a great deal to me personally because i know the history of my state. you know, this is a state that is, you know, a place -- the

birthplace and the home place of frederick douglas and thurgood marshall and herarriet tubman a has some of the most december criminatie has some of the most december crimina -- december -- discrime nating policies and the ku klux klan ran him out when he was a toddler but he eventually came back and became the first black minister of the church and i talk with him about the history that he made in the ministry and he also said but making history wasn't the assignment. and that's very much how i view this moment where i'm thankful and i'm humbled that the state of maryland chose me to be its next governor and the first black governor in the history of state but i'm very clear, that's not the assignment. >> right. you're in baltimore. i want to ask you about baltimore because that's a city that's seen a lot of troubles

over the last few decades. what are some of the things you want to do for baltimore, the city you're in right now? >> yeah, i love this city and i love the promise of the city and i want the entire state to know you can't have a thriving maryland if you don't have a thriving baltimore. and i don't just say that because i'm a baltimoren. i say that because i'll very good at math. name me a state that is clicking on all sellcylinders but the st is not? that doesn't exist. for our state to grow we have to make sure baltimore is growing and focus on public safety and getting and keeping violent offenders off of our streets and getting illegal guns out of our neighb neighborhoods. we got to make sure we have a 21st century education system teaching our students how not just to be employees but employers and means we got to focus on economic growth. we got to incentivize businesses to come and stay and also make sure we're creating pathways for

long term work, wages and wealth for all of our families. if we do that, this is going to be baltimore's decade and that will in turn ensure this will be maryland's decade. >> governor-elect, it's dana bash. congratulations to you. i want to ask about what lessons you might take from the man who is going to be your predecessor, is your predecessor. he's still the sitting governor larry hogan in the rare position of being a republican, a popular republican in a blue state. what can you learn from him as you think about how you're going to govern? >> well, i appreciate the current governor for calling out these maga republicans early where, you know, even after i became the nominee and my opponent became the nominee on the republican side, the republican governor called him a qanon whack job and said not only would he not vote for him but wouldn't give him a tour of

the governor's office. he was clear about the dangers of this maga movement but the way i plan on approaching the work and job is the way i govern and campaign this entire time, which is going everywhere. we're going to every corner of the state and we are sharing our vision and our values and i believe deeply i tell people that when i was leading soldiers in combat, when i was leading soldiers with the 82nd airborne division, i never asked what is your political party? i think that matters because that's how i plan on governing. i think people are tired of being at each other throats. i think people are tired of caring about how originated on an idea than is it a good idea and as a state, we're ready to move fast and together and that's why we saw an overwhelming victory in march a -- maryland last night. >> governor-elect, i'm abby phillip. thanks for being here again. >> hi, abby. >> you mentioned your opponent

you had a victory over but i want to ask what led to him even being the republican opponent in this race. democrats did spend money to boost his candidacy and did so for others like him, trump backed candidates, election deniers in other states in other districts. going forward, you ran this race and it was a victory but what lessons should democrats learn from how you ran that race and is that a strategy you think your party should be employing given the argument you and others are making is this is a threat to american democracy. >> yes. no, i know. the dga did a million dollar ad buy during the primary and it was against dan cox but the dga did not do the ad buy because they wanted dan cox to be the nominee. they did that because they thought dan cox would be the nominee. dan cox won by double digits in the primary.

there is no single ad that helped him go from not having a chance to win to winning by double digits. he was going to be the republican nominee and so i think what the dga did is make sure marylanders understood the danger he uniquely presented to being anywhere near the governor's office. the strategy we used and deployed is people said to me, well, who do you need to win? who do you need to touch to win this election? my answer was simple. everybody. and so we went to all 24 jurisdictions and we made our pitch and helped to explain to people and when we went places, people said well you're here but there's not a lot of democrats and i said yes, there are a lot of marylanders and i plan on being their governor and you go to their territory and make the pitch and show up and you'll see what we saw in the state of

maryland yesterday, we won not just democrats and independents but took a large swath of republicans and we saw the numbers and margins in the state of maryland. >> i have to ask you, we heard from president biden a few moments ago asked about 2024. do you think that president biden should run again? and if he did, would you support him? >> yes, i think the president should run again and i will support him. and i think it's incredibly important that we have a strong partnership. i recently just welcomed the president a few days ago to the state of maryland the day before election day and when people said, you know, why are you bringing the president back again to the state of maryland? my answer was clear. one, is we have got to have a strong partnership with washington and it's important that maryland has a strong partnership in washington because we got a lot we got to get done and the second reason is and i was excited to bring him back to maryland and welcome him back to maryland because i think the presidency sees what we all see.

this is going to be maryland's decade and this is a state prepared to move fast. this is a state prepared to move collectively and i'm excited to have washington and the biden administration as a partner. >> governor-elect wes moore, congratulations again. don't be a stranger. you're just up by 95. we'll have you on any time. >> i look forward to it. thank you-all very much. >> thanks so much. still ahead, the high stakes senate race the warnock and walker campaigns. where do they think the vote counts are going and georgia's newly-elected brad raffensperger will join us live. stay with us.

(julian) ugh. geez. (cecily) ironic, edelman struggling with reception. (julian) two things i hate dropping, balls and calls. (cecily) well you need a better network and verizon's new welcome unlimited plan for just $30 a line. (julian) verizon for $30? (cecily) yeah, it's their best unlimited price ever. (julian) i'm switching now! (cecily) and getting the network you want for $30... (julian) touchdown! (cecily) whoa! touchdown! (vo) everyone can get verizon for just $30 a line and now's the time to switch because you'll get up to $960. only on the network america relies on. verizon. this holiday master your kitchen with wayfair. you can cook up your favorites. and slice and dice with the best of them. wayfair, holiday your heart out. ♪ wayfair, you've got just what i need ♪

♪ my name is austin james. as a musician living with diabetes, fingersticks can be a real challenge. that's why i use the freestyle libre 2 system. with a painless, one-second scan, i know my glucose numbers without fingersticks. now, i'm managing my diabetes better, and i've lowered my a1c from 8.2 to 6.7. take the mystery out of managing your diabetes and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free at freestylelibre.us my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. ♪ kevin! kevin! kevin? oh nice.

kevin, where are you... kevin?!?!?.... hey, what's going on? i'm right here! i was busy cashbacking for the holidays with chase freedom unlimited. i'm gonna cashback on a gingerbread house! oooh, it's got little people inside! and a snowglobe. oh, i wished i lived in there. you know i can't believe you lost another kevin. it's a holiday tradition! that it is! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited. ♪ what's for dinner? panera! freshly prepared with clean ingredients. it's not just a night off from cooking. it's a delicious night on... for everyone at the table. panera. only $1 delivery fee on our app. well, we fell in love through gaming. but now the internet lags and it throws the whole thing off. when did you first discover this lag?

i signed us up for t-mobile home internet. ugh! but, we found other interests. i guess we have. [both] finch! let's go! oh yeah! it's not the same. what could you do to solve the problem? we could get xfinity? that's actually super adult of you to suggest. i can't wait to squad up. i love it when you talk nerdy to me. guy, guys, guys, we're still in session. and i don't know what the heck you're talking about.

election night in america is extending into a second election night and potentially election month. the fight for control of the senate could all come down to a december 6th run off election in georgia g bebetween the top two. eva is covering one of the most closely watched senate races right now. eva, you're in atlanta. tell us more. >> reporter: well, jake, top aides the day after here have just come out swinging. senator warnock's camp arguing herschel walker greatly under

performed other republicans in this state, namely incumbent brian kemp. also feeling confident because, you know, they argued senator warnock has won a consequential runoff in the past. meanwhile, walker's camp says this is really no reason to celebrate, that senator warnock suggesting he really had the advantage more than $100 million spent and he's an incumbent so we'll hear a spin from both sides in the days ahead, but that does not change the fact that in the next four weeks, they now have to continue to make their case to voters. they're essentially at square one, even with warnock pulling slightly ahead and having more votes. they're essentially at square one and have to make this case to georgians all over again, jake. >> jeff zeleny is also in atlanta, georgia for us. jeff, looks like we're headed for a runoff. gabe sterling and the secretary of state's office said it's

impossible for either of these candidates to get above 50%. so what now? >> well, jake, both campaigns have been planning for a runoff really since last evening and the republican strategy is quite simple. it's about president biden. i'm told by republican officials and strategists that they are trying to make this race about one thing and one thing only, to be a check on the biden administration and policies of the white house. of course, that will be much more amplified if control of the u.s. senate hinges on the georgia race, which it's looking increasingly likely it will. this also under scores a reality talking to republicans throughout the day. they're quite frankly disappointed by the under performance of herschel walker vis-a-vis governor brian kemp. nearly 200,000 fewer votes for the walker campaign versus the kemp campaign. there is also a sense of worry at the runoff on december 6th who will provide the ground game, who will provide the

organization, the walker campaign was not nearly as organized as the kemp campaign. there is a new dynamic as eva was saying no doubt about it and a new day and short time period to make the case but i'm told senator ted cruz will be coming here tomorrow to campaign for herschel walker and he's going to be one of many republican senators coming down to georgia to campaign for the next few months but again, they're going to try to make this about president biden and indeed, it is about president biden in many ways because if the senate goes into republican control, republican hands, it will deeply impact his agenda for the next two years but we will see if tieing senator warnock to biden works as a strategy. they tried that for several months and sen ator warnock hasa lead of about 17,000. >> jeff zeleny and eva, thanks to both of you. joining us now georgia secretary

of state brad retaffensperger. you were just reelected. congratulations. >> thank you. >> it must be reassuring given all of the horrors that you and your family went through after the last runoff election and of course, what president -- the pressure president trump tried to put you under. >> well, we're very grateful, very strong victory, over 350,000 more votes than the number two and nine points, 9.5 points above. we're really grateful. right now we also have our day job to do and that's make sure we have this runoff race that's going to be on tuesday december 6th. >> so the senate race, as you know, is headed to the runoff. who do you think has the advantage on december 6th without governor kemp at the top of the ticket, who vastly outperformed herschel walker? will it be harder for walker to win? >> i think it's really -- i was in a runoff four years ago and i

prevailed on that. it's really who gets the most people out and who has the most active campaign and i know i traveled all over the state in my runoff period and i'm sure that both campaigns will be doing that but we're getting the counties ready and building ballots and started that this morning to get ready and get ready to receive absentee ballot applications and send those absentee ballots out and the day, the first saturday right after thanksgiving, that will be the first day of early voting and the week after we'll continue on and tuesday, december 6th will be the decision day. that's when the last day to come out to you're getting ready to conduct a routine you haaudit of the re. was there anything you saw that was a major concern? any irregularity that really would cause anybody to be worried about the integrity of yesterday's election? >> no. yesterday ran so well. all 159 counties, we only had

seven out of our 2700 that had to extend their closing past 7:00 p.m. that's the type of election it was. average wait time of two minutes in the afternoon and check-in time was 47 seconds. so there just weren't any lines. it just went really smooth. the county performed great. our team, i felt so proud of them. i felt in georgia, we know how to run elections, run them well and we're going to make sure we have honest and fair elections for this runoff. >> a lot of other republicans across the country didn't have their races go the way they expected or wanted. do you have any theories as to why the red wave a lot of pun pundits thought would happen, why it did not? do you think donald trump e's re in your party contributed to people not turning out to vote for republicans? >> no our case, we had great

turnout. i just made sure people understood, i wanted to let them know i follow the law and the constitution. you have questions about 2020 campaign we had to push back on, here's what the facts are. do you want to know about the election integrity act? we have photo id. in the law, we said lines have to be shorter than one hour. that's what we had. average wait times of less than one hour. longest one was really about 14 or 16 minutes yesterday. so the county just performed and people know we have honest and fair elections. i think people are looking for honesty, integrity. i think those are really important attributes. >> speaking of honesty and integrity, herschel walker had a lot of scandals over the course of the campaign that would cause some voters to question his honesty and integrity. i suspect that's why so many

voters seemed to vote for governor kemp then cross the aisle and vote for senator warnock. mitch mcconnell referred to this as candidate quality as one of the issues. do you think a better candidate, jeff duncan, the outstanding lieutenant governor, do you think he would have made a better challenger for senator warnock? >> well, that would all be hindsight. elections are really forward facing. i'd encourage both candidates just aseem you're in day one and it's a 30-day sprint so they need to get out there and make their best case with the voters. the people of georgia. >> pumresident trump is teasing possible announcement to run for president. as a republican, as somebody who wants there to be election integrity in the runoff in december, would you be concerned if he declares? if he gets involved given the

havoc he helped reek on the elections in the past? >> well, our cabinets are going to be prepared for whatever the situation is. our job is to make sure the county, they turn on the lights in the morning, they're ready to go and make sure people get their absentee ballots. make sure people know we're going to have five days, monday to friday, plus a saturday, and some counties will have sunday voting. make sure we have everyone primed and ready and prepared for big numbers for the runoff race. that's our job. outside influences, we can't focus on that. our job is to make sure we run a smooth election like we did yest yesterday. >> congratulations for what was a smooth and secure election. >> thanks, jake. did a great job. still ahead, new vote counts coming in tonight including from arizona where two high stakes races remain in the air. senator and governor.

that's live, stay with us. does your antiperspirant keep you dry all day? we've put dove men dry spray to the test... with nelson, a volunteer who puts care into everything he does. it's a deodorant that really protects my skin. it's comfortable and lasts a long time. dove men. goes on dry. clean feel all day. can he stand on his own...

once he's all on his own? this is financial security. and lincoln financial solutions will help you get there. as you plan, protect and retire. ♪ when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis persists... put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable,... i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. check. when uc held me back... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq.

check. and when uc got the upper hand... rinvoq helped visibly repair the colon lining. check. rapid symptom relief. lasting, steroid-free remission. and a chance to visibly repair the colon lining. check. check. and check. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin cancer; death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. people 50 and older... with at least 1 heart disease risk factor have higher risks. don't take if allergic to rinvoq... as serious reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. put uc in check and keep it there, with rinvoq. ask your gastroenterologist about rinvoq. and learn how abbvie could help you save.

it's a cliff hanger at the u.s. capitol and across the country tonight with control of congress hanging in the balance. we're standing by for a new round of votes to be recorded tonight in the crucial battleground of arizona. welcome back to the cnn election center. i'm jake tapper. let's take quick snapshot of where the fight for congress substant

stands. in the u.s. senate, democrats hold 48 seats. republicans hold 49 seats. they need to pick up two more seats, republicans, in order to get to the 51 seats they need to take control of the u.s. senate. the final outcomes hinge on three key senate races that remain undecided. one in georgia, we were just talking about. one in arizona and the third in nevada. georgia is likely to be the decider. cnn projects the contest between senator warnock and herschel walker to be headed to a december runoff n. the house of representatives, 218 seats are needed to control that chamber. democrats are lagging behind. they have 187 seats compared to 204 for republicans. 44 races remain uncalled. republicans are closer to 218, to winning majority, but they're falling short of the red wave

many republican leaders had been p p predicting. get's begin with gary tuckman in north las vegas. the races remain undecided in nevada. >> reporter: that's right, jake. here in clark county, which has more than 70% of nevada's total population, tens of thousands of votes still haven't been counted. now, all the in-person votes for yesterday and election day excement for a few provisional ballots have been counted. the ones that haven't counted are mail-in on dropped in drop boxes. here, that's the most popular way to vote during this election. mail-in balloting and it's heavily favored tdemocrats in te first two weeks of mail-in balloting. it's a bit confusing but my job is to make it clear. today, this county announced it will count 14,718 votes that were received in the mail

yesterday and put in drop boxes on monday then no later than tomorrow, they'll start counting more than 12,700 more that were picked up at the postal service today and dropped in drop boxes yesterday. more than 300 drop boxes at the election stations all over this county. it's significant because many groups and labor unions and other political organizations implored people, don't wait in the lines. you could wait in lines and vote or come in and drop your ballot in the drop box. so there are expected to be lots of ballots in those boxes. here's the important point. you can mail your mail-in ballots. it can arrive tomorrow, friday, or on saturday. there's no way to know how many will arrive. but when i just said got 12,700 today for purposes of the argument, if 12,700 arrive tomorrow, friday, and saturday, you're talking about 38,000 ballots and the difference between the senate race, between

the democrat and republican, is about 22,000. also, where reno is, that's the second most populated county. they also have more than 22,000 mail-in ballots that haven't been counted and they'll get more thursday, friday, and saturday but that's much closer than republicans and democrats. this is the most heavily democratic county so all eyes are on this county. tens of thousands more ballots. just don't know exactly how many. >> let's go now to arizona where we find sara sidner. we're waiting for new vote numbers from the state's largest county, maricopa county, sara. that includes phoenix. what are you picking up there? >> reporter: you know, gary was doing so much math with so little time. i'm not going to do that to you. i'm not as good at all of that counting. i can tell you this much though, that in the next minute, we are supposed to get another drop of vote counts and i want to give you a look at why that's

happening because they are tabulating and they have been tabulating some of those 86,000 votes that came in early from friday, saturday, and sunday. so we are waiting for some of those to drop. 20,000 votes have dropped just a few, about a half an hour ago. so we're getting closer and closer. still at about a little over 70% of the vote count at this point in time. there was one thing we noticed that was very pointed that we heard from election officials. the head of the supervisor, the county board of supervisors here in maricopa county went after republicans who have been trying to say and accuse election officials of you know, of doing this improperly, of criminal activity and you know, trying to swing this vote a certain way. here's what we heard from bill gates who was very, very clear and pointed that this is just

not true. >> when they say criminal, i don't know what they're talking about. there was a lawsuit that was filed in maricopa county superior court. i didn't follow the entire hearing, but i don't think the word criminal came out of the mouth of the lawyers for blake masters' campaign, for the arizona republican party, the rnc. >> nas you remember, there was lawsuit because there were issues with printers and those ballots could not be tabulated at the time, but they are being tabulated according to county officials, but that lawsuit by republicans to try to keep the voting areas and polls open for longer was denied by the judge who said there wasn't enough evidence to do that. so the polls closed at 7:00 as scheduled and the count continues. the races are getting tighter. in some cases, you're hearing different things from different candidates. mostly kari lake really going hard saying there's something

wrong here and that there's some malfeasance here and the county officials are pushing back in every single way they can, jake. >> just for those who aren't familiar with the players. that was bill gates. he is a maricopa county commissioner. he is conservative republican who ran on a ticket of voting integrity. and the people who are leveling these accusations against him and the other people in maricopa county are people who lie about elections including kari lake. let's get more on the state of play in arizona. >> we can do all of the math for maricopa county here. a total of 1.6 million votes were cast there. 1.2 million ballots have been counted so that leaves 400,000 ballots that are being processed and counted according to an election official. so right now, here is what we know about when those remaining ballots came in and how much longer we'll have to wait for results. about 86,000 early ballots were

received friday and over the weekend. those should be reported by 8:00 p.m. tonight. another 50,000 ballots came in on monday. those are being processed and they're being handed over to the accounting team by the end of the day. it's unclear whether they'll be included in this count tonight or not. and then approximately 275,000 ballots were dropped off yesterday on election day. that is arizona's cut off for mail-in and absentee ballots and officials say this is way more than the number that were dropped off on election day in 2020 so it's going to take time to process these and count these and they're estimates at least 95% of those votes will be counted, but by friday. then one final batch of votes. 17,000 ballots that went into what is called box three. these are in-person votes that were not run through the t tabulator because of the printer error. to be clear, there are always ballots that go into this box three, but an elections official says this is a higher percentage

than normal. we'll be keeping an eye on all of these results as they come in. >> thank you so much. joining us now, the arizona assistant secretary of state. katie hobbs is one of the candidates running for governor. thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. where in arizona is the vote still outstanding? are these mail-in ballots, in-person? what counties? >> good evening. thanks for having me. most of the votes are in mar maricopa county as one would expect considering it's the largest county in the state. a county larger than some states and one of the largest jurisdictions in the country. we anticipate they have the most. we see pima county has ballots dropped off early over the weekend and yesterday so they'll be processing those as well. we're still getting updates from them as to how many ballots are

left remaining, but from or understanding aside from those 17,000 ballots put into box three that could not be read by the tabulators at the voting locations yesterday, all election day votes are now tabulated and the only thing that is left would be those early ballots as well as any provisional ballots cast on election day. >> we're grateful for your time. i want to go through a little history because your state went through this in 2020 and it's an issue in 2022. senator kelly has a lead of 83,251 votes over mr. masters, the republican candidate. about 73% of the estimated reporting. the governor's race, this is more of an issue. katie hobbs, your boss, who's running for governor, she only has a 4,000-vote lead. it's very close. and kari lake has raised questions number one, about the

2020 count and she's worried about impropriety this year. my question was do you understand the mix of the ballots and does this look like it did at this point in 2020 because what was interesting about arizona is that joe biden's lead shrunk as you counted the later ballots. he ultimately won in the end, but over the last several days as the ballots were counted, his lead shrunk. are we in that same position or do we not know that? >> i think it's too early to tell exactly what these late earlies that were dropped off over the weekend and on election day are going to look like. we knew that the early totals that came in before election day that were part of the first release of results yesterday evening would favor democrats which they obviously did and that election day votes wofavor republicans. what's unclear is how those late

earlies as we like to call them, will shape up. and will those favor republicans or democrats? it depends on who you're asking. >> maricopa county had some issues yesterday with voter tabulation. the county's board of supervisors said these were tech technical glitches. can you explain what the problem was and have you seen any irregularities with the actual vote in maricopa county? >> we have absolutely not seen any irregularities with the vote in maricopa county or anywhere statewide. elections officials have operated this election flawlessly and what happened yesterday was a tabulator technical error that it could not read, couldn't read the hash mashes that were being printed on these printers. election officials planned back up scenarios for everything and so so these tabulators have a back up system build directly

into them where a ballot can be dropped into a secure drop box and returned back to the county's central count facility where they can process those later on. in most arizona counties, eight of our 15 counties, they do not have precinct or senate level tabulators. they only tabulate ballots at the central count pfacility. so this is a normal process and this is again, it was a technical glitch and we have back up plans for anything that can come to pass and the county handled this situation well. >> can you help us understand how you protect the integrity of the process? maybe your smart enough to stay off social media, but you know what was happening yesterday. outside forces already raising questions about the count. but now your candidate for governor as well, kari lake, the republican, who again still questions 2020 saying she's worried about integrity. she says you need honest elections. i want to ask about how you

protect and explain to people, please, that there are democrat and republican eyes on these counts at a time when this is your boss. does she have any role in what happens from here forward or is she recused in this count because it involved her? >> yeah, so first of all, elections in arizona are decentralized. so the counties handle the actual administration of elections. the role of the secretary of state's office is oversight and administrative. we help set procedures that were set a long time ago. we were operating still on a 2019 election procedures manual and you know, laws that are set in place and we provide guidance to the counties on implementing those. but in terms of who operates the elections, it is the counties themselves so our office, the secretary of state's office, never touches a ballot. we don't do anything in terms of tabulation and so the counties really are in charge of this process. and if there's a situation and

obviously the race between the two candidates for governor is extremely tight, and so yeah. secretary hobbs is not involved in any discussions about what's happening with that and if there were any kind of contests related to that or any conflict of interest, she would recuse herself from that process. >> all right. the assistant secretary of state, thank you so much for talking to us. best of luck to you and your team over there. >> thank you so much. >> so, john, let's dive in. 73% of the arizona vote is estimated has reported in. katie hobbs, the democrat, is only up 4,083 votes. where's the outstanding vote and is there we can divine about who it's from and who it might go for? >> that's why i was trying to get the mix of the ballots. we had the flip side, remember pennsylvania last time. biden was behind then as they counted more of the mail-in

ballots, he caught up to trump and passed him. the arizona experience was different in the sense biden had a lead then it was shrinking lauf the late earlies. most democrats dominated early vote ng the pandemic here. the late earlies. people who returned them at the last minute, that was more of a republican vote. independent you saw late earlies as they call them. turned it more republican. so that was my question in the sense that's a 4,000-vote lead. not as comfortable as joe biden had in the count in 2020. so you say where, the bulk are here. 61, 62% of the population lives in phoenix and the suburbs around it. that's maricopa county. by far the largest county and population center. again, while she's the secretary of state, kari lake, was a tv anchor in this community for ten years so she's very well-known in the community and very close in this suburban county. 52-48 in maricopa county.

you go back to the presidential race, 50-48. this is where it is decided. the other point coming back to 2022, it's not the only vote. let's come back to the governor's race here and come down. pima county just to the south, tucson, the suburbs, is about 15%. so you've got 75, 76% of the vote in these two counties where most of the outstanding ballots are. and a 4,000-vote lead for the democrat in the governor's race. much larger lead in the senate race. so if you're mark kelly in the 2020 dynamics play out, you expect blake masters to close. is it enough to catch him? at least you have a more comfortable lead. when you come to the governor's race, if, big if, history does not always repeat itself, but if the same dynamic plays out, that's a much more narrow lead and things will get interesting if it tracks what happened in 2020. that's the part we don't know yet. when she says there are a lot more late earlies, if you go back to 2020, that's possibly

good news for lake if the dynamics track like they did two years ago. >> yeah, and we're going to see some of those votes coming up when they're released tonight. still ahead, on the brink of new projections in the fight for the u.s. house of representatives. that's on the other side of this break. stay with us. their efforts helped provide more than 75 million meals, when people needed it most. but there's still work to be done. thank you, claire. this year, we'd like to invite you back to jersey mike's for another special weekend. come in november 19th and 20th, where 20% of all sales will be donated to feeding america, helping families in need. together, we always make a difference. intelligent technology. courageous performance. discover a new world of possibilities in the all-new lexus rx. never lose your edge.

i just always thought, “dog food is dog food” i didn't really piece together that dogs eat food. as soon as we brought the farmer's dog in, her skin was better, she was more active. if i can invest in her health and be proactive, i think it's worth it. visit betterforthem.com (vo) with verizon, you can now get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend

of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on. ♪ we all have a purpose in life - a “why.” maybe it's perfecting that special place that you want to keep in the family... ...or passing down the family business... ...or giving back to the places that inspire you. no matter your purpose, at pnc private bank, we will work with you every step of the way to help you achieve it. so let us focus on the how. just tell us - what's your why? ♪

>> tech: when you get a chip in your windshield... trust safelite. ♪ upbeat, catchy music ♪ >> tech vo: this couple counts on their suv... as they travel for their small business. so when they got a chip in their windshield... they brought it to safelite... for a same-day in-shop repair. we repaired the chip right away. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech vo: plus, to protect their glass, we installed new wipers too. that's service the way you need it. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

we have some projections for you. a huge win for republicans in new york. republican state assemblyman, michael lawler, has defeated, cnn projects, maloney. maloney ran the committee this year. he conceded earlier today. cnn is now officially making a projection. this is a suburban district that biden won by ten points in the first time a campaign chairman like this has been defeated since 1980. new york republican and former nypd detective has also flipped a long island district that biden won by nearly 15 points. so let us go now to the balance of power. right now, democrats have 187 seats. that includes four pick ups.

republicans have 206 seats. that includes 14 pick ups. the magic number, of course, 218 seats are needed to have control. we are still waiting for a number of other districts to be called and we will bring those to you when we do this. the state of play in the u.s. house, republicans need to win nine of the outstanding competitive seats and they're leading in 13 of them. nine and they're leading in 13. democrats need to win 24 of the outstanding competitive seats and they're leading in 19 of them. so that is the state of play right now and john king, we're going to have more projections as we get, as our decision desk gets more information. but we have a much better idea right now of what is likely to be the end result. >> right. so think about the two things you just said. number one, the end result based on the math you just laid out. we don't know it, but we know it's going to be close based on the small number of seats in

play. two pick ups in new york. a blue state joe biden won by a boat load. this is where we are in terms of leading, right? so republicans, if it stops now and all the races settle, they would have a modest majority in the house of representatives. we're not there yet. these are the called races. so i want to come back to the math. you mentioned new york. we come up here right now. this is where we are right now in new york in called races, right? if you bring them all up in ahead races, if it ends this way, say 15. back to the existing house of representatives. democrats have 19 at the moment in new york. republicans have eight. you come forward here and say okay, there it is. republicans are getting their path to a narrow majority through blue. deep blue new york. there's some irony in that if you will. if you come out and think of it this way, your home state, the commonwealth of pennsylvania, that's a purple state.

republicans are going to get gains. this is where we get them. well, we have four competitive districts in the commonwealth of pennsylvania and republicans got a goose egg. there's an upside down nature in this battle for the house in that republicans are making their gains in a place like new york. you pull it out and wipe out the competitive seats, you remember republicans wanted to pick up some seats in new england. new england stays all blue. republicans wants to pick up maybe four in pennsylvania. they have failed to do that. they wanted to pick up two or three in virginia, they got one. so it's interesting that the state of new york is going to be california and kevin mccarthy's path to the majority, but a narrow one. >> can you bring up new york again? first of all, new york lost a congressional seat because of the census. they lost a seat. >> so one fewer. >> if this holds, we're going to go from eight seats to 11. one of the things that new york republicans had going for them

that pennsylvania republicans did not, pennsylvania republicans had a fringe extremist as the republican nominee for governor, doug mastriano. good riddance. but in new york, congressman lee zeldin, he lost, but he came a lot closer to kathy hochul, who was elected, the democrat, than people thought. he got out the vote though i'm saying. i hear new york republicans today saying lee zeldin is why they picked up some seats. >> look at it by county. you make that point. that's the maloney district you just mentioned with the flip. zeldin's old district. the lines have been redrawn. zeldin was a congressman from here. so your seat is one, two, three, four districts right there that are shaded red at the moment. so this is the house of representatives. switch your map here and go to governor. see the red. you see the red. zeldin runs a very competitive race for governor. he's running, in parts of the maloney district, obviously hochul is winning, but he's

still turning out republican votes. >> five percentage points in true blue new york. >> so you have a republican candidate who's more competitive than expected early on. he loses if he can take some solace in that, he will leave the house of representatives but mccarthy, have to ask lee zeldin if he's his friend, will get his colleague mccarthy is most likely to become speaker with a narrow majority that he can thank the voters of new york and owe a debt to lee zeldin. >> if this ends up being the margin, five votes, three are in new york. i'm not saying zeldin is responsible for all of it, but at least mccarthy should send him a muffin basket at the least. >> maybe some california wine. you talked about both districts and how much biden won them by. that is the exception and it's in new york. it's the exception. these are house democrats that biden carried by less than 5%. this should have been the low hanging fruit for republicans,

right? in a presidential year, biden carried them by less than 5%. so in a midterm year you think this is your target. these are the districts where biden just won and it's not a presidential year and you have the inflation. look, republicans are leading in seven of them. they had five of these seats before the election so their best possibility is to pick up only two of what should have been the lowest hanging fruit and it's possible. it's possible we've only called, they've only won four so far. it's possible they actually lose a seat if the democrats come back. this is where in these districts, 15 districts right here. if you would talk to the chairman of the committee, if you watched them on television in the last six months, this was the easy part. they were going to get all of these and right now, they may end up with one or two more. possibly fewer of what should have been the low hanging fruit. >> so speaking of which, let's talk about colorado three because right now, let's bring ta up if we can. a former city councilman, a

democrat with 94% of the vote in in lauren bobert's district, fire brand, extremist, take your pick, he's up only 62 votes but still in the lead. 50-50 in colorado. i don't think anyone really saw this coming. >> this is also, you mentioned how zeldin helped those republicans in new york. michael bennett and jared are helping democrats in colorado to get to the governor's race. >> right. >> let's look at it. let's come to the governor's race right there. you have the governor winning with 57% of the vote. again, there's red out here. this is where that district is. 60% not going well there. 19% there. if you come across and bennett, senate race as well. similar results here. you have this red. but come back to the house race and this is here. it's a big district. it stretches down. i was texting with a friend out

here who's involved in democratic politics and said if you look at where the missing vote is, they believe she should catch up. we'll have to count votes, whether it's arizona, nevada, but the fact this is so competitive in what was supposed to be a republican year, she is the lightning rod and the democrats tried very hard to make her an example. we'll keep counting those votes. >> the democratic governor there, people in the national democratic scene don't talk about him the way they talk about gavin newsom or whatever. this is a guy who is reinventing the colorado. look at that victory. 17 points. >> look at the stretch of it. again, one of the big questions was with donald trump not on the ballot, the suburbs reputeuated trump and republicans in 2018. made joe biden president in 2020 after making nancy pelosi speaker in 2018. the question was high inflation. look at this. this is adams county here. arapahoe here.

this is denver county which includes a lot of the suburbs, he's getting 82%. >> he's getting republican votes. >> jefferson county, a swing county, he's getting 62. arapahoe's always interesting because this was a fervent tea party county in 2010 and 2014. the democratic governor's got 64% of the vote. you're right, colorado itself is changing. these suburbs are changing, but that's a governor who not only is winning, he understands his state is growing. >> and he's winning republican votes. if any democrats are paying attention, how do we win the wlous, there's a guy that's winning the votes. still ahead, donald trump's scorecard so far in this election. what that could mean for his party and his likely 2024 presidential bid. stay with us.

when it was time to sign up for a medicare plan mom couldn't decide. but thanks to the right plan promise from unitedhealthcare she got a medicare plan expert to help guide her with the right care team behind her. the right plan promise only from unitedhealthcare. the chef's chicken sandwiches at panera, freshly prepared with clean ingredients... spark an explosion of the senses. so when you finally taste it, it just confirms... this. is. fantastic. and only at panera. $1 delivery fee on our app. to tell you something? the clues are all around us... not that one... that's the one. at university of phoenix, you could earn your master's degree in less than a year for under $11k. learn more at phoenix.edu

can he stand on his own... once he's all on his own? this is financial security. and lincoln financial solutions will help you get there. as you plan, protect and retire. ♪

from holiday hills, illinois to rudolph, wisconsin. from santa claus, indiana to snowflake, arizona. from garland, texas to north pole, new york and everywhere in between. we're holiday ready with fast and reliable delivery, serving every address in america. the united states postal service. if you run a small business, you need the most from every investment. that's why comcast business gives you more.

more innovation... with our new gig-speed wi-fi, plus unlimited data. more speed... from the largest, fastest, reliable network... and more savings- up to 60% a year with comcast business mobile. all from the company that powers more businesses than any other provider. get started with fast speeds and advanced security for $49.99 a month for 12 months. plus ask how to get up to a $750 prepaid card with a qualifying bundle.

control of congress still up for grabs as election night in america continues. now we're hearing that the former president and his team are gearing up for what they view as a showdown with ron desantis? >> yeah, that's right. so essentially, some of trump's advisers earlier today were trying to talk him out of aannouncing a third presidential bid. that didn't seem to be working. it seems trump's mind is made up. he wants to announce that third presidential run next tuesday which means that trump world's focus is shifting. they are looking at what does a trump desantis 2024 showdown

look like? how do they take on the florida governor and this is particularly daunting. not just given desantis' win yesterday, but the momentum behind him. with cnn reporting that rupert murdoch appears poised, he'll happily put trump aside and put desantis as head of the republican party. sorry about those lights flickering. we are in west palm beach where there's a hurricane coming in. i want to read what donald trump said. this is him starting to take aim at desantis. he said in an interview, i don't know if he's running. i think if he runs, he could hurt himself very badly. i think the base would not like it. i think it would not be good for the party. i would tell you things about him that won't be flattering and i asked trump what exactly he meant by that. one adviser telling me that's just the tip of the iceberg. they expect this to get increasingly nastier.

again, we are expecting trump to launch that third presidential run next tuesday, anderson. >> fascinating. not even a veiled threat. thanks very much. i want to go to david. david? >> just off of what you were discussing, sort of took a look at the exit polls about how voters in this midterm election were viewing former president trump. so nationally in the exit poll, we asked do you view president trump favorably or unfavorably? 39% of voters in the election yesterday view donald trump favorably. 59% unfavorable. that's a significant downgrade from just two years ago when donald trump had a 46%

favorable, 52 unfavorable. 54% say donald trump was not a factor in their decision but when he was, 28% opposed trump with their vote in the u.s. house election yesterday. 16% supported trump. then we wanted to see well how is this shaping views of the republican party if at all? the republican party has a 44% favorable view among americans in this midterm election. nationally. 52% unfavorable. by the way, democratic party has similar numbers and is the republican party seen as too extreme? extremism was a theme in this election. 52% of americans voting in the u.s. house election yesterday across the country, yes, 52% see the republican party as too extreme. 45% say no. again, similar numbers. how the democratic party is viewed as well. >> appreciate that. the former president in an interview just responded to reports that he was quote unquote furious about the

midterm results, saying that the people he endorsed quote, did very well. he says quote, all these guys that are winning are my people. can you help us fact check that for a moment? >> he endorsed hundreds of candidates. many who didn't have opponents. so it's quite easy to win elections in which you don't have an opponent. he did do that so that later, he could tout the statistic. but where he mattered the most were in these big races where there was muddled primaries and pennsylvania is ground zero for that. he owns that one. i don't know what's going to happen to -- >> pennsylvania wasn't just endorsing a candidate. he was determining. he was determined. >> how did he actually do that? how did he, he didn't just ordain these candidates be the candidates. he endorsed them and they won. why did they win? they won because he has a

following among republicans. >> well, but you raise a good point and oz won with what, 30% of the vote? so in a muddled primary in a fragmented field when somebody like that comes in and you can win -- >> vance. >> and look how far behind vance ran. >> i think that's the important point. let's look at these kind of head to head match-ups in states where you have governors who aren't trump associated. kemp in georgia. running five points ahead of walker. ohio running points ahead of vance. on and on. so i think we saw the former president was involved. there was a drag on the ticket, right? >> this is the, first of all, i think you're minimizing. you guys, you have a winner take all primary system. he's got a solid base. that gives him you know, some hope in these primaries, but here's the thing that i find kind of astonishing.

not astonishing, but confusing. the guy, he told, heinous lie and the last election then fomented an insurrection at the capitol. now you lose a couple of seats and say, oh, no, we can forgive the other stuff. >> exactly. >> we lost pennsylvania. >> i totally agree. >> first of all, just to be clear, i didn't forget the other stuff. and i will -- >> i looked at him. >> the republican -- >> i'm getting a lot of twitter on this. i've always said joe biden, you did. i always said joe biden was the legitimate winner of the elections. to work in the senate, decry the attack on the u.s. capitol. >> just real quick, guys. donald trump was the unmitigated loser last night. hands down. i hope you guys are right that desantis is finally changing the wave and trump is done. but i'm sorry, i was on cnn on

january 7th, said the party needs to move on. every prominent elected republican said the same thing. weeks later, they're down at mar-a-lago and back supporting him. by the way, he lost us the white house and the senate. and they still went back to him. this isn't anything worse than he's done before and this time, there was no insurrection. >> i agree with you. as someone who covered january 6th and you see that he fomented a violent insurrection and you watch those hearings, suddenly, some people lose some senate seats and it's, oh, my god, oh, my god. and they're running away from him. candace owens. conservative influencer on twitter today saying what i am saying is that trump needs to take a good look in mirror. why not -- can i just answer my own question? which it's a rhetorical question. because they feel threatened. that's why. because their political survival now is --

>> spot on. >> is threatened so they're running away. >> why i think trump is hard to quit. i think that people misunderstand him as a political phenomenon and not as a movement leader. he's a movement leader. the reason people join movements is because they feel alone. they want to belong to something. they need some meaning. they need some hope, some help. they need to feel like this is something i can be apart of that's bigger than me. the question isn't could desantis do better with this demographic in the polling. the question is could desantis create a better home for them? a better sense of belonging for them. i'm not sure he can. i think trump is hard to quit. >> you're describing politics as religion basically. s >> yes, i am. >> i'm describing it as purely a vehicle for winning elections. >> that's the problem. >> that's one of the most interesting conversations in america where we have taken politics. people on both extremes, and have turned it into a -- we've

replac replaced religion in some ways. the reason i think it's different is purely the calendar. after january 6th, we were still four years away from the next one and there was no bible. now, 2024 is on bright. >> the party went down to -- >> but there was no race. >> i got to break in. coming up, we're closing in on a new round of votes from arizona. we expect to make more house projections as this evening goes on. right now, a quick break. mucinex nightshift fights your worst nighttime symptoms so you can get to sleep and wake up ready to go. how could you? ♪ so, rise above the misery. wake up to a new you. how dare you! today, you're back and ready to go.

this will not stand. ugh... ah, nuts! with mucinex nightshift, it's not cold and flu season. it's always comeback season. all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work, helping them achieve financial freedom. we're investing for our clients in the projects that power our economy. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future.

and help communities thrive. [holiday music] ♪ for people who love their vehicles, there is only one name on their holiday list... weathertech... laser measured floorliners that fit perfectly in the front and rear... seat protector to guard against spills and messes... cargoliner, bumpstep, and no drill mudflaps to protect the exterior... and cupfone keeps phones secure and handy... [honk honk] surprise!! shop for everyone on your list with american made products at weathertech.com...

xfinity rewards is a program whose sole purpose is to say "thank you" with experiences big, small and once-in-a-lifetime. sometimes it's about cheering hard enough to shake the stadium! sometimes, it's as simple as movie night right here at home, on us.

you mean the world to us. so we're bringing you closer to what you love. kinda like this. welcome to 30 rock! join xfinity rewards for free on the xfinity app today. our thanks, your rewards. new votes continue to be

counted in house races across the country. we are updating the vote totals. we have some key race alerts now. in illinois, former tv meteorologist democrat is currently leading current republican in this northwestern illinois. this is king's second run for the seat. eric sornsen has 51.8% to king's 42.8%. in the last few hours, king has gained a few hundred votes. in washington state, the democrat is leading republican kent. the trump-endorzed republican who defeated butler in the primaries. she voted for impeachment. 52.6% in the last few hours. kent has gained on perez. in the race for alaska's lone house seat, we have votes just in. the democrat is currently leading former republican governor and former vice presidential candidate, sarah

palin. that's followed by nick begich. alaska, it's a crowded field and the state has a ranked choice voting system so this could take a few weeks. the house and senate still up for grabs. manu raju is following all of it. i would think with republicans not living up to what they hoped to do that there would be a round of recriminations going on and some finger pointing. bring us up to speed. >> that's right. publicly, they're not saying a lot. the top republicans are not. mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader who typically has a news conference the day after an election, did not have one today. he did not want to speak to reporters about the and when he came together capitol today, kevin mccarthy the republican leader has not yet fielded questions about reporter about what happened, including walking out of a brief speech that he gave about 2:00 in the morning without responding to questions from reporters. and republican sources say there is one big reason.

privately there is concern among a lot of republicans about donald trump. they believe his presence late in the campaign season essentially made him a central figure, a clear contrast with democrats, hurt some of the candidates in kyswing states like pennsylvania. also abortion, not being able to push back strongly enough on this issue. republicans largely sidestepped questions that on the campaign trail. one reason that mccarthy himself has been behind closed doors is he is trying to lock down support for speakership. we have learned that tonight marjorie taylor greene, one of donald trump's closest allies met with mccarthy for 45 minutes. we asked her about that meeting. she declined to comment and asked if she would support mccarthy for speaker. also said, no comment. >> manu raju, let's talk about this because this is going to be, kevin mccarthy, if he does become the speaker, this is going to be his biggest

challenge, i think, is keeping these maga republicans, this caucus on his side as they get increasingly demanding. >> demanding, that's really the keyword. they know that they have leverage. they have a lot of leverage. now before he becomes speaker, because he needs enough votes to become the speaker. of course, we have to remember that it's unlike a regular leadership position because it's a constitutional position, the entire house of representatives will end up voting for him or anybody else who wants to run. so, they're going to use that leverage. marjorie taylor greene, in particular, knows exactly how to use that kind of leverage. people close to kevin mccarthy say that they don't think that there is another viable choice right now to get that job. but the question is what will be extracted from him or what will they attempt to extract to actually get the vote. >> if kevin mccarthy's majority is like two or three seats the

margin, it's going to be complete chaos. do you remember when the freedom caucus was running things with john boehner and they tried to do predictable things day in and day out? and he threw up his hands and said, screw it, i'm out, this is going to be so much worse. >> one of the things that they're demanding is an ability to fire the speaker of the house any time they want. >> any day. >> it's crazy. and one of the things dana was explaining is just, like, in order to win the party leadership when you're the minority, you just need to win a majority of the minority. in order to be speaker of the house you need to get 218 votes. that pretty much means everybody in your caucus. >> that is the challenge. i don't expect that kevin mccarthy will do anything other than capitulate. he had a 45-minute meeting with marjorie taylor greene. i think that basically tells you everything you need to know about where this is all headed. he doesn't have leverage to push back against this part of the

republican party. and, in fact, last night and perhaps when all the votes are tallied, we will see no matter really what happens more of them in congress the next time around. i don't think that's going anywhere. one thing that i think is worth noting, republicans know that this kind of politics, that the maga politics, the trump wing hurt them last night, and they still haven't figured out what to do about it, but that's only going to continue to be a problem. >> some of the people who have been thorns in the side of kevin mccarthy are already saying we're going to demand something. congressman from kentucky, tom massey, who is what he calls the head of the tom massey caucus -- [ laughter ] he said i want something for my vote. let's say he ends up with 225 republican votes. he needs 218. those seven or eight people who are the difference between being

elected speaker or they got to go find somebody else, they got all the leverage in the world. >> yeah, and their interests don't align with mccarthy's. this is one of the biggest differences between the way congress operates now versus the way it operated ten years ago, which is that the people that were in charge, the speaker or the other big household names, they used to have power to take things away from rogue members of their conference. now twitter, the internet, the incentives are all completely different. it's much easier for marjorie taylor greene to go out there and be the famous person of the conference. >> the trumpification of congress. am i the only one who's having memories of the movie "gremlins"? don't feed them after midnight. [ laughter ] it isn't like kevin mccarthy that there is this blood oath to him. there is not tremendous loyalty to him. you say he is the only viable candidate.

you don't think tim scalise or jim jordan -- >> watch elise stefanik. we're getting new information from nevada election officials. we'll go there live. stay with us. ♪ they may try and♪ baahh! ♪ 'cause it hangs them up ♪ ♪ to see someone like you ♪ ♪ but you gotta make your own kind of music ♪ life gets bigger when you break from the herd. ♪ sing your own special song ♪ the volkswagen tiguan. ♪ make your own kind of music ♪ ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't

know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? even a term policy! find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com.

my name is joshua florence, and one thing i learned being a firefighter is plan ahead. you don't know what you're getting into, but at the end of the day, you know you have a team behind you that can help you. not having to worry about the future makes it possible to make the present as best as it can be for everybody. >> tech: when you get a chip in your windshield... trust safelite. this couple was headed to the farmers market... when they got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair.

and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service the way you need it. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

> we are live in washington on a second night of vote counting and suspense. we are awaiting a new round of votes to be counte