tv Election Night in America CNN November 9, 2022 4:00pm-7:00pm PST
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i am jake tapper with our special coverage of election night in america continued. we are standing by to see if we can make any new projections in any key races that could tilt the balance of power in the house or the senate. let's take a look at the fight for control of the house and senate at this moment. in the senate democrats currently hold 48 seats. republicans currently hold 49 seats. republicans need to pick up two more seats in order to get to the 51 required to retake senate control. three key senate races remain undecided. those are in georgia, arizona, and nevada. georgia could ultimately determine senate control as the contest between democrat raphael warnock and republican herschel walker is headed to a december runoff. in the house, 218 seats are needed to control that chamber. democrats are trailing. they only have 187 seats right now. republicans have in-stepped to 206. 42 races remain uncalled.e edge
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their seats waiting to see what happens next as the votes are counted. we are expecting a significant number of new vote numbers tonight in arizona where cnn senior national correspondent sara sidner is live for us in phoenix. sara, what are you picking up there? >> reporter: in just about an hour, we will get another bunch of votes that have been counted, and the public will see who those votes went for. we've got several tight ralces here. you really have to wait until the end when these tight races are going forward. and one of the tightest races is for the governorship with kari lake and katie hobbs. they are neck and neck. and we are watching that race very closely. there is also a very significant race nationally and that is the senate race. and that's been fairly close or not as close as the governor's race. i do want to mention we are just getting new numbers in from another county. maricopa is the largest county,
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the most populous county as well. and they have just under 400,000 votes that have to be counted. and we also know that the second largest county pima county has just reported they have 159,000 votes that still need to be counted. and they do not think they will get all of those counted until november 14th or 15th. that took a few people by surprise. but this is because they are looked through very carefully to make sure everything is verified. and then they will count those ballots. that's where we are right now. we are looking at the two most populous counties. one of them where we'll start getting some more numbers coming down in about an hour. the other one we may not hear until november 14th, 15th, the actual final vote count from pima county. >> that is surprising that that's going to take that long. let's go to the battleground desk where we find david chalian. tell us more about this because we have to wait until the 14th or 15th?
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>> we may. i do want to explain sort of what we're seeing broken out by method of vote in arizona right now. so if you look here, among the mail vote, mark kelly, the democratic incumbent has an 18.3% lead in that vote. among the election day vote, blake masters has a 40.1% vote. let me show you what we know about what is left uncounted. 38.7% of the mail vote is left uncounted right now. and that is a kelly advantage group perhaps i'm going to explain that in one second. there's almost no election-day vote left. while this is a big category for blake masters, only 1% remains to be counted. here is the catch that i want folks to understand. late arriving mail, even though it's mail vote, may be politically different than the early arriving mail. we saw this happen in 2020.
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just as an example at 5:00 p.m. eastern today, we got a batch of 22,000 votes out of pima county. you just heard sara sidner talking about pima county. it is currently a county that kelly has a 23 percentage point lead in the vote. but in that batch of votes because it was late mail, 63% went for masters, 35% went for kelly. complete reversal. so, we have to watch carefully if this number up here 18.3%, that lead starts shrinking for kelly as more late-arriving mail gets counted, jake. >> that's what they call the late earlies, meaning early voting, but arrives late. the late earlies, as if this couldn't get confusing enough. >> we know it's confusing to some of you watching at home. it's a giant challenge for campaigns because the character of how we vote has changed so much. it was changing anyway.
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early voting, mail-in voting. washington state, for example, went to that years ago. but in most of the country, early and mail-in voting was just starting to get traction and spreading in popularity, and then covid hit. and so now we're going through it again. so david makes a key point. we can look at what happened in 2020. if you just looked at that, then mark kelly is going to hold this lead. the late earlies, are those republicans who traditionally vote on election day who said i don't want to vote in a line? so here's my ballot, i'm going to mail it at the last second. is that an election day vote or is that an early vote? are we going to redefine this over the next five, ten years as this character of voting and how people vote changes. it's confusing. so we need to be patient. we need to count and we need to trust the officials who did a very good job in arizona two years ago, it took a while. nevada took even longer so we're in two states that took a while in 2020, and we're doing it
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again, and it matters big time. 83,000. the democratic senator with an 83,000 vote lead as we wait for more votes in the governor's race. it's just a 4,000, just shy of 4,000-vote lead. >> that's been knocked down. >> it has come down a little bit. when the pima county votes came in, they were, quote, unquote, mail ballots. but they're late earlies. and they were more republican. and so we're going to sort this out as we get more of them, we'll be able to do some math and figure out if we need to adjust the percentages. and we'll go from there. but what it just tells you is be careful and be patient, which is very hard if you're a partisan watching at home and you have skin in the game, if you will, it's hard, and i understand that completely. but so we wait for more votes and you look at this. we've talked about this. this is not the red wave or the blood bath that republicans had hoped for that. does not mean in the end it still won't be a -- they could still very well win the senate. we'll do that math in a minute,
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it's up for grabs. and they could have one of the new rising republicans could still be the governor of a very important battleground state in america. so we need to wait till we get to the end before we decide the midterms told us x. it's still inconclusive. so let's come back to the senate race because this is now monumental. we're waiting for this count to come in. we might be waiting, it depends what we get today and what we get tomorrow, and maybe friday. so then you have the question do the votes that we might have to wait till november 14th or 15th? let's switch maps. you mentioned at the top of the hour the presentation that we still don't know. we still really don't know the complete verdict on the midterms and this is why. we do know this is going to a runoff. democratic incumbent raphael warnock, that's december 6th. do we have to wait till december 6th? do we have to wait for another georgia runoff to learn who controls the senate?
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that's why these matter so much. and that's why the late vote count. at the moment the republican is leading here. still a lot of votes to be counted. the democrat is leading here. so where does that leave us right now? it leaves us at 50 republicans and 49 democrats. so, that would be a swap if it stayed right there. the democrats pick up pennsylvania, the republicans pick up nevada if nothing changed from where we are right now. then georgia decides can democrats get back to 50 and then the vice president breaks the tie or do republicans get to 51, which is why these votes count so much because there's a possibility if the vote count there, if the incumbent democrat cortez masto comes back in the race, it's possible democrats get to 50 right there. kelly holds this lead. cortes master comes back. this is just to decide whether it's 50/50 again and the
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democrats get to 51. or the flip side of that is i think what you were getting to. if laxalt holds this lead and then in arizona, masters comes back because there are plenty of votes. that is still a very -- it's a mathematical possibility. >> then georgia only matters to the margin, not to who controls. we have not written the final chapter of this midterm election. >> still ahead, those new votes from arizona are coming in soon. we're crunching all the numbers as they come in. stay with us.
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with thirty grams of protein. welcome back. we just got some new votes counted from several undecided house races we're watching. here is a key race alert. in montana, the former secretary of interior under donald trump, republican ryan zienke is leading. in deep blue connecticut, democratic incumbent jahana hayes leads by less than a percentage point. still too early to call. in arizona, republican juan, a mexican immigrant and former aide to former doug ducey is
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leading. but still too early to call. going over to the magic wall right now. john king, so, tell me where we are when it comes to control of the house of representatives. >> we're not quite there yet. this is where we are right now. races where the candidates are ahead. many of them are not called yet. but if the count ended now and everything stayed put, republicans would get a two-seat majority. two-seat majority in an election where they thought they were going to win -- >> meaning you need 218 votes. they have 220 votes. >> cold races, there are 206. so they're on their way, and a betting man would tell you given what's still on the board they have a very good almost a probability of getting to a small majority. but democrats still mathematically democrats have a chance still to fight the majority because of these, the uncalled races. so this is the challenge. we were just talking about the senate math.
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we have to wait till we know more about nevada. we have to wait till we know more about arizona before we understand how important the georgia senate runoff is. 19 republican leads in competitive districts, 13 democratic leads in competitive districts. so this is a fight. this is a district-by-district fight for the margins in the house. and, again, the likelihood is a small republican majority. but sometimes you get surprised. the uncalled races, they are coast to coast. how long are we going to have to wait on nevada and arizona? two of these races have rank-choice voting. and maine and alaska are going to take quite some time. if it came down to the balance of the house weighs on one or two districts, the democratic incumbent is leading here. he's at 50% right now. >> if he holds that, they don't have to go to rank choice, correct? >> correct. he's at 80%. so make a long list of potential complications. >> just the point with jared
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golden, jared golden, he's a democrat in a republican seat. >> six points. >> donald trump would've carried that district in these lines by six points. >> i believe last time he fell short of 50% and, in fact, i don't even think he was in first place in the plurality of it. and then he became the member of congress because of the ranked-choice voting. >> he often breaks with his party, he's a tenacious democrat. how did democrats defy the national headwinds, if you will? , in part, by good candidates whose personal brand helps them overcome and who knows their district. and remember the democratic governor also won against paula. you come back out, where are these other uncalled races? we talked about this race last night in western connecticut. jahana hay what's losing at one point.
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now she's ahead. the votes, a lot of the votes are still -- which democrat by 20 points. you're looking at the math. >> i was just going to say george logan, who is not -- this is an african american who supports abortion rights, might actually have his politics line up with a lot of people in the western part of connecticut. >> this is one of the races where we talked about last night. house republicans were smarter in some of these nonmaga districts. some of those maga candidates lost. but in this particular district this was a pretty good recruit for the republicans. the democrat is ahead at the moment. when are we going to know is kevin mccarthy the speaker or do democrats somehow defy history? if kevin mccarthy is a speaker, by how much? we're going to have to wait until we settle these uncalled races. in 2018 some of these races here took days and days.
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welcome back. we have a new projection to make in the race for the u.s. house of representatives. republican mark molinaro is the winner in a sprawling new york district that includes binghamton and ithaca. he is currently the duchess county executive. that is a pickup for democrats. let's look at the balance of power right now. right now democrats have 187
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seats in the house including four pickups. republicans control 207 seats. that's 15 pickups. that's molinaro just improved that number 207. 41 seats are outstanding. the magic number 218. of the competitive seats that are out there, republicans need to win eight. democrats need to win 24. a much taller order for democrats right now. let's go to chief congressional correspondent manu raju. you just heard from kevin mccarthy the republican house leader who hopes to become the next speaker, what did he have to say? >> he has been behind closed doors for much of the day having meetings, talking to republican members as he's trying to lock down enough support to assume the speakership, assuming that republicans do take control of the house. and he was asked by our colleague kristin wilson about whether in fact he does have the votes to become speaker. he indicated, he does. >> do you have the votes for
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both the majority in the speakership? >> yes. >> what about the freedom caucus? have you spoken to president biden today? >> yes. >> reporter: so that last part saying, yes, he has spoken to president biden today. would not say if he has gotten the support of the house freedom caucus. that is a hard-right faction, some of which members are threatening to vote against him. he did meet with one member of that faction marjorie taylor greene behind closed doors for 45 minutes earlier this evening, greene would not comment about whether she would support him for speaker. mitch mcconnell left the capitol moments ago. and our colleague caught up with him. and he indicated that he never predicted that there would be a red wave. he said, well, i don't believe i ever predicted that when asked about the fact that it appears that it has not yet materialized in any of the results here. he, for a long time, has said this will be a jump-ball election. he is still waiting to see the results of arizona and nevada,
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like everybody else. and he was asked about whether or not inflation played into this, instead he pointed to georgia, and he said we're all waiting for december 6th, of course that being the key runoff day in georgia that potentially could determine the senate majority or could determine the margin, at least. his sights are set on georgia next month. >> kasie, do you think that kevin mccarthy has the votes as of right now? we don't even know who's going to be in -- >> i don't know how he can know, really. he sort of has to answer the question that way. what else are you going to say? but the fact that he's not -- i mean, they thought he had all kinds of press lined up last night. they thought he was going to be able to come out and claim victory. and instead he's basically running from the camera. >> if body language is a real thing, the body language there was not great for kevin mccarthy. you can overstate it, but he didn't come out there like, hey,
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guys here i am, the new speaker. he couldn't wait to get through that door and away from reporters. >> we got to talk about mitch mcconnell. he's the king of understatement. i didn't predict a red wave. no, you didn't. you said, candidate quality, which is -- >> maybe this, maybe that, we'll see. >> which is note to donald trump, thanks a lot, man, for getting involved in all of these primaries, which we begged you not to, and leaving me with candidates who were not viable in purple or even blue states like what we're looking at in pennsylvania. and he's very, very frustrated. this is like charlie brown and the football. it is over and over this has happened. if you go back to 2010, huge wave in the house of representatives. he doesn't get a majority. why? because of candidate quality. and it's happened again and again.
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>> that was because of the tea po party, not because of trump. >> but the tea party is more modern version of trumpism. or trumpism is a more modern version of tea party. jim jordan, mark meadows were the freedom caucus chairs and it's sort of the newer version of that. >> i think it's interesting when he was asked how does it play with voters, he talked about december 6th. we can make much too much of this, but if he was more confident that he's going to win arizona and nevada, then december 6th is not quite so important. it seems like he's saying we're going to win one, we're going to lose another one and it's going to come down to the runoff. >> the republicans are going to win nevada and lose in arizona, i think he's thinking. it's also a dig at rick scott who was out on the air waves saying we're going to win 55 seats in the senate. i think all of us kind of thought that would be a lot. >> there's no love lost.
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>> but he spent money on races that i'm sure mcconnell thinks was a total waste. >> i don't think anybody believed what rick scott was selling and certainly not mitch mcconnell. but i am fascinated by just, in my mind, i see the image of kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell and the two men who probably could not be more different. there is a real scenario on which they are sort of co-leading a congress for the next couple of years. and they don't see eye to eye on a lot of things. and i think that that is actually a different dynamic than we have certainly been experiencing in the last couple of years. but it will be a much more difficult dynamic for republicans than we talk about because mcconnell is a very results-oriented type of leader. he doesn't want to play some of these games that mccarthy is going to have to play if he wants to play. >> as john boehner used to say, unless you have the caucus
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behind you, you're just a guy taking a walk. >> many speakers of the house have tripped up on that very issue. >> i was going to say there's a difference between mcconnell and mccarthy because mccarthy runs the republican caucus in the senate and mccarthy runs the republican caucus in the house and that's, relatively speaking, a zoo. >> there was a serious break them over january 6th. it's not necessarily one that has gotten a lot of ink. it's not something that two men really talk about. but the way mccarthy went down to mar-a-lago and stood for that photograph immediately after, mcconnell was very much of the liz cheney mindset. we've learned in some of these books how seriously he thought about casting a different vote in impeachment. he ultimately closed his mouth in the attempts to win the senate back in this midterm election. but the two of them don't see eye to eye on how to deal with trump and the party.
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mcconnell sees him clearly as a loser -- mccarthy sees him as someone that he absolutely needs if he wants to -- >> in recent weeks the target and his wife of really unseemly and racist attacks by trump. >> when mccarthy went down to mar-a-lago in january 2021, that is interpreted by a lot of house republicans as mccarthy bringing donald trump back onto a boat after they felt like they had pushed him off. and you can argue that if kevin mccarthy had not done that, that last night would've been a much more successful night for republicans. because you would have had a completely different dynamic if you buy the argument that mccarthy brought trump back. >> i don't know that i buy that. i know there are some people who have posited that. but if you think about the way that the party was turn -- mccarthy was following the rest
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of his party's base when he went down to mar-a-lago. he was not leading from the front with what he did. and he made the calculation that if he wanted to achieve -- i mean, he has wanted to be the speaker of the house for years. he keeps missing out on it for various reasons because of mistakes he's made, because of the way elections have broken. potentially if donald trump turns on him in the next couple of months, the speakership race could get really ugly really fast. he really needs trump to embrace him to continue to mitigate the problem. >> john bolton has said several times that he thinks trump is going to go after mccarthy at some point. god knows why, just for fun, for kicks? >> because he can. >> why not? >> exactly. why is he insulting desantis right now? coming up, massachusetts makes history with its pick for governor.
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lesbian governor. she joins us now from boston for her very first television interview as governor-elect. congratulations. tell us what this moment is like for you personally as a trailblazer. and what's your message to little girls out there and to the lgbtq community? >> well, it's great to be with you, jake. you know, for me, this just brings about all these feelings i had as i was running and looking into the eyes of little girls, of young women, talking to young people from the lgbtq community. you know, representation matters. and seeing is believing. and i hope that my election will affirm in those young people this idea so important that they can be anything they want to be. this afternoon i got to spend time with young girls in a city just north of boston in a great after-school program. and it was just great to be spending time with them, them
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asking questions, them engaged, them talking about politics, maybe running for office. and at the end of the day, we're going to be a better state, we'll be a better country when more voices are at the table, especially voices that have not been heard historically. >> and you're also only the second democrat to become governor of massachusetts in the past 30 years, which might surprise some of our viewers. but charlie baker, republican governor, obviously mitt romney at some point republican governor. what do you think the winning message was, especially in a year where democrats seem to be facing headwinds? >> well, i've had the privilege of being an attorney general here for the past eight years in massachusetts. and i took on some of the big fights including purdue pharma and the sackler family. i stood up for families on a lot of economic issues. and i think they liked my message. at the end of the day, my message was about bringing people together, delivering results, not dividing people.
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my opponent in this race was really the trump wing of the party. he was an election denier. and he was opposed to abortion. and here in massachusetts i think the voters spoke really clearly that they're beyond the noise. they want people who are going to deliver, bring people together, certainly stand up for reproductive justice. i also ran a campaign that was really focused on affordability in a time right now where we know so many families are hurting. and i think that's what's really carried us over. >> governor-elected, it's dana bash. congratulations again to you. you are now going to have to govern. and one of the big issues you sort of touched on this a minute ago that governors across the country are having to deal with is affordability, is inflation. how are you going to actually tackle that? what are you going to do to make people's lives in massachusetts better? >> well, i think from several angles, dana. and you're absolutely right that that is an issue here in
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massachusetts. it's an issue across this country. i put forward plans including growing housing right now because right now we don't have enough housing. rents are too expensive. people can't afford mortgages. so that's one thing we're going to get after right away. also make some changes to our transportation system. we have money coming in though here in massachusetts. and we're going to make smart strategic investments. i've also proposed tax reform, and that will be my first act day one as governor. >> go ahead, dana. >> i was going to say tax reform, obviously when you're talking about revenue and talking about having to spend money to do some of the things that you're discussing, are you going to be able to do both of those things at the same time? that's not necessarily easy at a time with inflation and maybe on the brink of a recession. >> well, it's never easy of course, dana. but i'll tell you here in massachusetts, we are in good fiscal shape compared to a lot of states. the job, though, of the next governor is to make sure that we are working to make life more
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affordable for families here because we don't want residents or employers going elsewhere. but i am really bullish and optimistic about our state. i had a great meeting today with governor baker. i've had a great working relationship with him the last eight years. and i feel so much is possible here. there is a mood of optimism. people are looking for me and my teammate. we also have elected here in massachusetts the country's first all-female team, or one of the first all-female teams in history in my lieutenant governor elect kim driscoll. i feel the optimism. yes, we've got some headwinds to deal with. but i think massachusetts is in really solid shape to deal with that going forward. >> and, governor-elect, you met with the outgoing republican governor charlie baker. you met with him this morning. what advice did he give you? >> well, we've had many discussions, and we'll continue to have discussions.
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and i also know that -- i'm sorry, there was something coming in here. >> that was just the video of you this morning. >> oh, got it, okay. forgive me. we had a great conversation, and i think that one of the things that he made clear to me, it's also the way i've tried to be as attorney general is to really get out around the state, to make sure that when we are in these positions when, we are elected with the voters' trust and the expectation that we're going to deliver results, it's really about making sure that people across this state know that whether they voted for me or not, i will listen to them, i will understand them, i will meet them where they are. and together we're going to work to find common ground and to move us forward. and i know that's possible here in this state. >> all right, well congratulations again, governor-elect. i appreciate you taking time to talk to us today. >> well, thanks for having me. we are standing by for new numbers from arizona in the
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are expected momentarily in one of the key races that will determine control of congress. we're following all of the contests that remain up in the air tonight as the country awaits the final midterm results. let's go to cnn's senior national correspondent sara sidner. she's in phoenix, arizona, maricopa county. sara, what's the latest you're hearing? >> look, we have about 15 minutes before we're expecting to see another significant drop that you will see of votes. in other words, these are votes that have been counted. they were early mail-in votes from friday, saturday, sunday, that have been counted. could be anywhere up to 89,000 potential votes that come in. that isn't a significant number, as you know. about 1.6 million votes in this county. this is the most populated county in all of arizona. so, you've got that situation going on here. there are still election workers of course here.
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they're going to be here for most of the night sorting and counting. we are just waiting for that vote drop. and when it comes down, we'll know exactly where they are in their process. there were 400,000 votes left to count here in maricopa county. so, if it's up to 89,000 of these early votes, then that will be a significant number of those 400,000. we are just waiting to hear from officials about that. they are going to give us those latest numbers. these could have an effect on the senate. they could have an effect of course on the governor's race because this is the most populated county. we will just have to wait and see what that is. but there is a lot of excitement on basically both sides of the aisle, both republicans and democrats hoping that those numbers shape their way because one of the races especially the governor's race is very, very tight at this point. and so both sides waiting to see. we have learned something about katie hobbs, who is now running for governor but is the secretary of state. so the person that certifies
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these votes. she says if there is a dispute, that she will not have anything to do with touching any of these ballots just to make sure this is fair, this is a fair election. she doesn't want to have her hands anywhere near any of the votes. she is going to wait and see, she says, who wins this election. and we'll have to wait and see too, jake. >> sara sidner in phoenix, arizona, thanks so much. 27% of the vote remains uncounted in arizona. david, have we figured out what percentage of that, the candidates would need to win in order to be triumphant? >> our colleagues at our decision desk are doing that math constantly. that's what they do to try and get to projection-level competence. we see the vote tally on the left of where it currently stands with 73% of the vote in, 51.2% of the vote for mark kelly. now we think -- and these are estimates, jake. we think approximately 700,000
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votes are outstanding. 700,000 votes. so, given the current voticalies, blake masters would need a range of 53 to 56% of those roughly 700,000 uncounted votes in order to win this race. mark kelly's need number is lower. he would need about 41 to 45% of the uncounted votes in order to secure victory in this race. so we'll be watching closely to see what are the percentage breakdowns for this new batch of votes coming from maricopa county. >> let's we're expecting these votes to come in about ten minutes. until then, tell us what's going on. >> so a key point. our great decision team is making the best estimate they have we're getting from arizona officials. when we get the first release of
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the newly counted votes, then you take it down and break down the percentages and that will inform us, assuming it holds. that was the pattern in 2020. what are we looking at? you would rather be mark kelly. blake masters mathematically, totally. >> absolutely. >> mark kelly has by arizona competitive standards, in the arizona senate race, we have no idea who will win this race. let's be clear. because se700,000 more votes. then in the governor's race, it is much more of a narrow lead. only a 3,000-point lead. the senate is in place. this is in play in both. so that's why we need the votes. in both places, it will come hear. the biggest basket of votes we'll get is maricopa county, which sorry to be redundant but this is it. 62% of the state population. phoenix and the fast-growing suburbs around it where close
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elections are decided. with the exception of the 15% that live in tucson and the suburbs around tucson. when you get to the south. but largely democratic areas. you see katie hobbs with 52%. it is interesting watching these come out. we could get all the new ballots and its possible, one democrat holds the lead and one democrat loses the lead. it's closer. it is statewide. she's at 51%. this is almost a dead heat. 3,600 votes. he's at 52%. you would rather be 83,000 votes with more votes outstanding. 83,000 votes ahead than 3,600 votes ahead. that's simple math. now we go through the process and we count and there are a lot of people stirring this up. questioning the integrity. yl does it take so long? we have zero reasons to believe that this is anything but there are a lot of votes and they need to count them. and they will. one more key point.
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when they do this, you say, sarah is standing there. there are representatives of each campaign there. there are neutral representatives, there are lawyers there, so people with these questions. there are good republicans and good democrats and good independents watching. >> and also, by the way, why does it take so long? it always takes so long in arizona. remember the senate race, it took days and days and days. if the republican, the current republican governor and the republican house and senate in arizona want to change that, they can change it. they can be as efficient as florida is if they want to do it. >> and we're waiting on arizona and nevada. roll the clock back two years. what were we waiting on? >> arizona and nevada. so let's give some grace. that was covid. we were in uncharted waters. so many early ballots and all that. but these two states have been
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traditionally slower. it is the way they do it and the people in their states elect the local officials in their state. they have been slow. they haven't changed the rules. you have to respect the will of the people. if that's the way the people want to do it, we wait. >> a new round of votes in a few minutes. that could affect the final outcome as election night in america continues. stay with us. because the only thing dripping should be your style! plop plop fizz fizz with alka-seltzer plus. also try for fast sinus and pain relief!
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control of the u.s. house and the u.s. senate are hanging in the balance as election night in america continues. i'm jake tapper in the cnn election center. as we wait for those votes from arizona. let's take a look at the balance of power as it stands right this moment in the u.s. senate. democrats have 48 senate seats. republicans have 49 senate seats. republicans need to pick up two more seats in order to get the 51 required to retake senate control. three key senate races remain undecided. one is in georgia. one is in arizona and one is in have in. the georgia race is heading to a run-off race in december. that could ultimately decide senate control, depending on what happens in arizona and nevada. let's take a look at the house of representatives. 218 seats needed there to control the chamber. democrats hold 187 seats. republicans are making gains.
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they have 207 seats as of right now. 11 short of what they need to reclaim the majority. we have updated that several times this evening. 41 races remain uncalled. president biden speaking out about the results at a news conference earlier today. he called it a good day for democracy. he noted with confidence and some relief that the red wave, the red tsunami many republicans predicted did not pan out. all eyes on arizona where we're awaiting a significant number of vote totals. vote counts from maricopa county. the most populous county in arizona. that will be reported at any moment. let's go to international correspondent sara sidner in phoenix for us. >> reporter: we are waiting in the next minute or so. we are expecting to see another vote count come out with more ballots that have been counted. at this point, senator mark kelly is ahead of blake masters.
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and blake masters is backed by donald trump. he is a person who does not believe that donald trump won the 2020 election. that is an issue with a lot of the republican candidates in races being watched nationally here. of course, donald trump did lose the 2020 election and joe biden won but that is the scenario that you're seeing here. and i think a lot of people are watching as we know, in talking to some republican operatives. they are watching this to see, number one, the influence that donald trump may or may not have in races here and across the country that is significant to them. there is also the issue here of arizona having more independent or third party voters than anything else. they have more independent voters here than they have republicans or democrats. although republicans are a close second and democrats are third. the independent voters, very important hear. they can swing either way and it is harder to figure out which way they'll go because they don't just go down the party
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line every single time. and arizonians pride themselves on that. right now we are seeing mark kelly ahead of blake masters. we have the other race that a lot of folks are talking about. that is race for the governor. you have katie hobbs who is the secretary of state right now, running for the governorship, and kari lake, another candidate who is an election denier, backed by donald trump. according to the number that i'm looking down because i'm looking at the maricopa county election department's results, as i'm trying to wait for more of the votes to come in. right now katie hobbs is ahead of kari lake by 52% here in maricopa county. significant because maricopa county is about 40% of the vote in the entire state. a very large number of people live in this county. and a quick look behind me, you
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see people taking a quick break, or talking to one another. you're not seeing the be at a lagss happen at this very moment but they will happen. what happens in air args they have a lot of people. billion 85% of the people in pl maricopa county vote early. that means people who dropped off ballots or their mailed ballot early. they put it in an envelope and brought it here. wll that happens, it takes longer because they have to verify the signatures first on those particular envelopes. and then they have to sort and then tabulate. so the process takes time. we are told by county officials that by friday, they will know 95 to 99% of the vote. they will have that many votes counted and we will pretty much know, unless they are so razor thin, who won in each of these
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categories. they are being heavily watched. another category being heavily watched, is the secretary of state's office. you have mark fincham who has spouted some qanon conspiracies and who is also an election denier from 2020. and you know, basically, his job, if he were to win would be to certify the vote. to certify the next presidential election. and that has some folks, especially in the county worried. if you didn't believe that the perfectly fair election that didn't have any major problems was not a fair vote, what will happen in other instances? a lot of people have their eyes on arizona trying to figure out who voters believe and what they want. it is a good bellwether because it is one of the swing states. >> thank you. once again, the arizona assistant secretary of state. thank you for joining us. do we have any idea of timing?
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and any idea of, what else can you tell us about the ballots we're about to learn about? >> yeah, so maricopa county has said they will provide an update in the 6:00 hour. so it will be very shortly here. i think that we are going to see a small number of early ballots that came in over the weekend. so these will be 48, saturday, sunday. it might not be as big of a batch as folks are expecting. but as you are mentioning, arizona takes a lot of time to process the early ballots. and they go through a signature verification process. it has to go to an early board. the ballot has to be separated from the envelope and then it can be put into batches for tabulation. i know it is frustrating for
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folks but we have these measures in place because of our desire for greater election integrity. if you want to have strong integrity measures, these things do take time. so that's what we're seeing. and i think what maricopa will give us tonight are some of the ballots that they received over the weekend. >> we're grateful for your time on a busy day. can you explain to people, we were talking about this earlier are. florida is a much bigger state and they're done with it. georgia is a more populous state. they're essentially done with their count. what is the political situation with arizona, especially after the 2020 experience, when he you did have people raising questions, this is a states issue. states count their own votes to decide this is the way we're going to do it. we're okay with taking time. what are the conversations in arizona in. >> well, it is ironic, rate? there are folks who want it to take less time but they want greater election integrity. if you want to make sure that we
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check the signature and verifying on every ballot that is returned and submitted, that takes time. especially when we are talking about going to a committee that is looking at a put aer screen. this is not an automated process. they are looking at the signature to make sure it matches what we have on record to verify that that voter filled out that ballot. the thing in arizona, we've always had these processes but our elections have become closer over the years so we've noticed it more. >> how many more votes still need to be counted in maricopa county specifically? >> from what we're understanding from the county, they have about 400,000 outstanding ballots that they are working through the signature verification process. and then will be going through tabulation. they also have their provisional
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ballots that they're working through. i think we'll get updates tonight on how many they have left. those have a period with five business days following the election. so voters have the opportunity through next tuesday to verify that their ballot is theirs. >> sorry. forgive me for interrupting. you mentioned, next tuesday to verify. do you have a date circled on the calendar that says we will be done by here in or are we not sure if we'll get a final number. okay, thing person has a big enough ahead. when will you have a final number? >> we say results are not official until we canvas the election. and that's november 28th for the counties and then the state canvass on december 5th.
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so everything we have now is an unofficial result until it is can advanced. that happens by the secretary governor, the chief justice of the arizona supreme court. if we have 95, 98% of the vote by this weekend, and it seems that the margins are wide enough that the races are able to be called, then the media makes those decisions. >> in the 2020 presidential election, it took several days, in some counties, a full week to finish counting. if you could, just explain to our viewers why does this take so much time? i know you did already to a degree. but what happens with the ballots? what are you -- first of all, i think people need to understand. some states like ohio or texas, they are allowed to count or at least prepare for tabulation before election day. i believe you're not allowed to do that until election day, right? >> that's not true.
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so arizona is able to start tabulating early ballots as soon as they're received. and so they're able to go through that signature verification process as soon as they're received. and then counties start tabulating. they can't release the results until an hour after polls close. so usually that's why those numbers are so big at that first release of results at 8:00 p.m. in arizona. but what happens is once the election is happening, people who are doing those signature verification duties and things like that, they're now setting up for the election on monday. they might not have as many boards able to do the signature verification process. because they're setting up and opening more early voting locations, or emergency locations on the monday before election day. and then we have elections on tuesday. so those signature verification processes are on pause.
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and what is happening is that we have ballots that are coming in. and they are being received by the counties. and as long as they are in by 7:00 p.m. on election day, they are eligible to be reviewed and to go through the process. so what the county does is they get those ballots ready for signature review. they go through manual process, they are comparing the signature on the ballot of a david with a signature on file to ensure it is the correct person. then it goes to another board that separates the ballot from the envelope. because we have a constitutional right to a secret ballot in arizona. then it is put in for tabulation. so i understand that viewers and voters alike sometimes are not understanding why these processes take so long. it is really to ensure the integrity of the election. >> thank you so much.
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best of luck with this new vote tabulation. we continue to wait for the significant results to come in from arizona. we'll share them the moment we have them. plus, what's the fought for trump at the top of the republican party? we'll ask the new republican governor, chris sununu. that's next. in the all-new lexus rx. never lose your edge. when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis persists... put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable,... i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. check. when uc held me back... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check.
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tonight the needle is moving in the fight for control of congress as we await new numbers coming in from arizona. we'll bring that to you and all the new votes as soon as we get them. we are making some new projections as this mid-term season unfolds. but first, let us now bring in the newly reelected republican governor of new hampshire, chris sununu. governor, congratulations. it doesn't look like you had such a tough fight but you did win and you also won at a time when your democratic senator, maggie hassan, was reelected.
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and the two house seats in new hampshire, the two democrats were reelected as well. so what did you do differently from all the republicans who, especially in new england, had a bad night last night? >> yeah, well, i can't say specifically other than i tried to connect with the voters. as an incumbent governor, i had the opportunity to do that. these were new individuals on the republican side. given the late primary, they didn't have the time, the money and the resources to connect with folks. whether the conspiracy theory type stuff on their side played into it. one thing that we did find. all the polls had them winning. they were off massively by at least 10 points so that took everybody by surprise. i think what you'll find is young people voted in much bigger number and. more for those democrat candidates and others. as well as, they voted much more
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for those candidates as well. i think everybody believes inflation is the top issue. i think they didn't believe that they could deliver a better result. they didn't trust that a lot of these folks would deliver results. and when washington is talking about payback for pelosi, nobody wanted that. nobody was lack for that. that was a key part of the message that was resonating with folks when they went into the ballot boxes with these individuals. so i think that's why this republican wave turned into a republican ripple. >> it's interesting. biden's pollster, he said few weeks ago he saw it as head wins. because of inflation, fears of a recession. the head cases, you just aladed to it, that don bolduc and others running in new hampshire and across the country were conspiracy theorist.
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some were talking about candidate levitt, having lived in new hampshire, i can't imagine that was appealing to a lot of new hampshireites. does this signify to you in a bigger way that the republican party needs to get back to saying republicans like yourself, and away from the maga conspiracy theiry wing of the republican party? >> well, look, quality of candidate matters. it really is. even over policy. i think a lot of people want policy to be fixed. we can fix policy later. we're going to fix crazy right now. and that was the message across the country. enough of the polarization, enough of the extremism. and get back to basics. start talking -- stop talking and start delivering results. and it's scary. the energy costs, the lack of supply, indoor systems, that's scaring folks.
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clearly the need to not go so forward with the policy changes such as to put an extremist. people aren't going to have that. this is a purple state. you have to be a candidate that connects with folks. >> i know education is important to you and your republican senate candidate whom you endorsed, his closing argument was that kids in new hampshire are gone going to the bathroom in litter boxes. is this something that is a concern to new hampshire voters? i lived in new hampshire for four years. i don't recall ever seeing any litter boxes in restrooms. maybe i need to be educated. >> you went to dartmouth, if i'm not mistaken. >> that's correct. >> i'm guessing neither you nor i have ever seen such things in new hampshire. i don't know what that was all about. nonsense. i don't know.
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>> you look nationally at some of the gubernatorial candidates who ran. and again, this was a year where democrats could have easily lost tons of races in pennsylvania. in michigan. in wisconsin. all over. but the republican party, republican voters nominated people who voters didn't think were up to the task in states where the races were eminently winnable. and i wonder as a republican, as a conservative, does that frustrate you? >> oh, of course. it doesn't frustrate me now now. it's been frustrating me the last year. the quality of the candidate matters. you have to connect with folks. you have to again work on their level. what are their issues? a lot of the stuff they were espousing were things they didn't want to see anymore in washington. wasn't about pay back. they wanted to see washington
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move forward. so have this should have won by five or six points, they were fighting for their life and it possibly didn't need to happen. i'm a blaefr that you have to move the message forward. we don't settle. we don't just settle and say that's good enough. we're always challenging ourselves to make it better. a better candidate, a better individual, better public service. that's what we're all about. so i think most of us want to see thing going forward instead of talking about what happened yesterday. so at the end of the day, i'm hopeful we can change the message. that we can brand ourselves as a party. i think a lot of people do it pretty well. governor desantis did it pretty well. he knocked the cover off the ball. i think people are saying, okay, we're moving forward. if you look at it today, it's a heck of a lot different than it was three months ago. then you'll have other
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candidates. taking leadership role, getting stuff done and demanding accountability out of public servants. >> last time i asked you this question. you said you were focused on yesterday. except wasn't yesterday. it was the future. okay. you've won re-election. are you considering running for president in 2024? >> right now i'm not. a lot of people are talking about it. no doubt. but i think the priority, i always want to work on the priorities. what you just brought up. changing the message. am i going to travel across this country and hopefully inspire a younger generation of good fiscal conservatism, being smart about these issues? absolutely. i love doing that. that's what i'll spend my time doing. being governor, traveling the country, talking to folks, trying to change that message. you have to do it. sits not about that.
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it is that all of us moving forward we won't be hear forever. we need that next bench to step up and not do do it in a polarizing experience. for the past six years, that's all they've experienced. so that's a lot of fun to me. if you talk about my national interest, that's where it lies. >> perhaps a stop in iowa is in order. governor sununu, thank you so much. i appreciate it. well, you're already in new hampshire. still ahead, we'll go back to arizona where new vote tallies are about to be announced.
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let's look at the governor's race first in arizona. the numbers on the screen. kari lake, 49.8%. katie hobbs, right now, with 50.2%. still a lot of votes to be counted. let look at the senate race. mark kelly, blake masters. still could go eat way, i suppose. >> for sure. the governor's race is a dead heat. and everybody is trying to discern, out of these different tranches of votes being counted, what are the likelihoods of voters, of the different tranches going in different directions. the one everybody is watching, obviously, kari lake has become a center of attention and that race because of her role as an election denier.
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whether this race in georgia matters for control of the senate will be determined by nevada and arizona. and i think democrats have been counting on arizona. so republicans are looking for a tightening of that number. everybody expects it. they didn't make much head way in this latest. >> reporter: dethere are mail-in ballots that can be received until saturday. so there are several dates to come. >> i think you would agree that they would like to see a narrowing of this. >> would it change everything. if somehow they got ahead of kelly and we held on to nevada. that would make georgia irrelevant. the republicans i talked to in nevada are much more confident in laxalt holding on. lake is very close. there's an expectation that sometime during this count, you could see her go ahead.
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you're right. if something crazy happened here, and he got on top of it. the senate is hugely important to everybody in the country. she is a very outspoken, media savvy election denier. should she be elected governor of arizona. there will be questions about what happens in the election of 2024. and b, what role she'll play in the national party. >> and she questioned whether she would trust the election result even before ballots were counted. and so, if it turns out that she doesn't win and it is even by attainy amount, there is no telling what she will do. i looked at our exit poll. the people of arizona, when asked if they were confident that the elections are fair and accurate. 73% of people in arizona said
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very confident or somewhat confident. so she may be on the wrong side of that. he's popular and he's raised at love money. so democrats feel very confident. >> and both these races are close but there's a bit more of a margin. hobbs and kelly are neck in neck. this one concerned me for the exact reason she laid out. there's been intimidation around voting. there's been concerns and warnings about potential unrest if things go the wrong way. >> kari lake blatant lied. >> she fed into it. if she were to lose by a thin margin, that she would likely contest it. >> the question i have for everybody at the panel at large, kari lake wins, right? if the election denier wins, what do you say? do you say the election was rigged? how do you attack the election moving forward? the speaking with rift election? does that vanish? >> but only if she what'ses.
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>> what is it about hobbs? democrats were so hot on hobbs. if what you say about lake is extra, shouldn't this have been a layup? >> i think people expected it to be a layup. i think the tateness of the race speaks to what a polarizing race this is. i spoke to people in arizona who were making provisions, law enforcement folks down there, for what might happen around the counting facility. and it was a labyrinth. a lot of it had to do with the frenzy that they thought she might whip up if the count went against her. it didn't materialize so far because i think she anticipates that she will win this election. my larger point is, this is the united states of america. we shouldn't need law enforcement around the place
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where votes are being counted because there's a fear that a mob might come and attack. >> to say something about that point of view. arizona is one of the few places where the youth vote was a little down, apparently. like most places, we saw the young people coming out. that's why the polling was off. it seems to be where we're headed. but there was not an investment in the youth in arizona and there wasn't investment in the youth in nevada. i think you have to understand. the latino community, 66% in the community, are under the age of 33. this is a very young community. so if you're not investing in young people, you're not investing in latinos. if we wind up with this really super scary person crawling across the finish line and scaring the bejeebers out of everybody. >> there was a peace in the
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atlantic that talks about how arizona was scaring republicans. and kari did run on a edge many of combatting a illegal immigration. to your point, what will make or break her is the younger voters. >> there is a generational split there. the younger voters are much more progressive. do you see it differently? >> no, i wanted to add on. in arizona if you look at the cnn exit polls. in arizona, in the states that we looked at. georgia, nevada, pennsylvania, it had the highest share at 40%. on the senate race they broke for kelly. 55-39. so as you know, there is a lot of independent voters. they go back and forth in arizona. it was one of those where you look at the sour mood and then you see the independents breaking. just another --
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>> 60% of the vote in arizona is maricopa county. and that's largely suburban areas around phoenix. one big suburb. when you talk about how suburban america is processing these issues, it is very much there. in terms of the latino vote, that is a discussion we should have tonight because it hasn't been what the republicans anticipated. they expected big inroads with hispanic voters. that hasn't materialized other than in south florida. >> that's right. >> we are expecting to get new vote tallies from arizona. a whopping 60,000 ballots. the numbers ahead. td ameritrade, this is anna. hi anna, this position is all over the place. subscriptions are down, but that's only an estimated 15% of their valuation.
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county, arizona. those votes could have a major impact on two uncalled races. the governor's race between kari hobbs and katie. the race could tip the balance of power on capitol hill. as we wait, we do have a new projection to make in the house of representatives battle. democrat eric sorensen, cnn is projecting has held on to an open seat in illinois. he is a former tv weatherman and he will be the first openly gay member of congress. and in colorado, look at the nail biter between lauren boebert and a former city councilmember. the difference here is just 73 votes with about 95% of the votes having been reported. in washington state, democratic incumbent congresswoman is hanging on to her seat against
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mark larkin. 52.8% to 46.9%. we are not ready to make a projection there. let look at the balance of power in the house. democrats have 188 house seats. that includes four pick-ups. republicans have 207 house seats, including 15 pick-ups. there are 40 seats remaining. the magic number, 218. republicans are narrowing in on that magic number. what is the state of play? let's take a look. the state of play is, there we go. republicans need to win eight competitive seats in order to become the controlling party of the house of representatives. democrats, a tall order. they have to pick up 23 competitive seats in order to hold on to control of power. let's go to the magic wall rate now. john king will walk us through where things stand with the balance of power in the house of representatives. and you know what? in past races, we would have been able to make a call by now.
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this is so competitive. that right now we still don't know. >> right. if you're a democrat watching, you say, is it possible the democrats retain the majority? possibly, yes. likely? not so much. this is what we called. 207. the republicans have 207 seats. they need 11 more. many thought they would get to 225. maybe 230. some had ambitions beyond that. that won't happen. but it is quite possibly they'll get to 218 and beyond. democrats leading in 215. if it ended that way, again, two things could be true at once. that could be a moral victory for democrats but a political loss because republicans would take the gavel from nancy pelosi. howl do you assess that? it will make joe biden's life much more complicated if this is where we end up. but if you look at the historical trends, 37, 31 if you go back the ronald reagan. 37 if you just start the clock at bill clinton in a first
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president's mid-term on average. democrats will beat that historical average. that doesn't mean the takeover of the house wouldn't make president biden's layoff complicated. >> and by the way, 220, that's only a ahead of five. that means, by the way, if there are, let's say, i'm just making this up. let say this happens and there are retirements or whatever. promotions or who knows? for three competitive seats. that is it. if democrats won in special elections, then they could take over. i'm saying. it's so narrow. >> you were talking earlier about the challenges facing kevin mccarthy. this is the day he should be doing hand stands. he's nervous about getting to be speaker. so you're right. part of his challenge in addition to keeping the marjory taylor greens is keeping people from retiring. >> or even just defecting on a vote. if three republicans defect on a vote and join with
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republicans -- democrats, that's 218. >> yeah. what you're saying is we have a lot to talk about as this goes forward. as we get the final numbers and beyond. the projection you made is very important. it is another one of our competitive races. we started with 82 of them. joe biden won 60 of the 82. and democrats, the democratic incumbents, 57 of them. so they're easier to pick up. you're not running against an incumbent. this is one of them right here. eric sorenson was trailing earlier on. and somebody had a direct message to me on twitter. hey, you should check in. this is again democrats district by district fighting their way to a much better result than was anticipated. now this is the head of the competitive races. let's come out and look at the races we have not called. among them is the one you just mentioned here in colorado.
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this is the lauren goldberg district. she has become an icon among maga republicans. you see 73 votes. we switch to the county level of this district. i was telling you, i was texting with a democrat out there who was nervous. she thought she could make up the votes. it's 73 votes. million is others over there. i want to show you this. this is pueblo county here. it is a democrat county, not by a lot. 2 points. the race will be decided here. a slight democratic advantage. does that mean how people voted yesterday? we don't know. >> very, very interesting. we're on alert for the minute the votes drop. thousands of ballots on the line. you'll get the results right here. back in a moment. only pay for what you need. jingle: liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.
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all right. we've been waiting all day. the votes from maricopa county, and we are getting them right now. let's go to sara sidner, who is in maricopa county, in phoenix, with this traunch of vote tabulations. sara, what do you got? what are the numbers? >> reporter: we actually have someone from the county right here with us. megan gilbertson is here. she has been here days now. can you give us an update of what the new numbers are. >> in maricopa county, we have 1.13 million ballots cast as of today. that was an additional 62,000 ballots in this post. >> okay. so, now we are seeing 62,000 more ballots that have been counted. >> yes. >> reporter: at this hour. >> absolutely. >> reporter: can you give me a sense of, do you know where that falls out with the senate race and with the governor's race. >> so, i'm going to leave that to you guys to do all that analysis.
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but what i can tell you all is that we have between 400,000 and 410,000 ballots left to count. that's because we had 290,000 ballots dropped off last night, which is more early ballots than we have ever had before on election night. >> reporter: and in case anybody's confused, thank you so much megan. if anybody's confused, we have heard different numbers. it was 275,000 votes that were cast. these numbers go up and down depending on how many times they're able to get them sorted and verified. now it's 290,000 that came in just last night, and that was the last bit of voters showing up. and we have just heard 62,000 more votes have been counted here in maricopa county, the post populous county that is in the state. >> sara sidner, thanks so much. john king, we see the vote
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tabulation here changed. >> that's the state-wide tabulation. mark kelly gained a net in maricopa county, which is the county here. >> that k stands for kelly. >> k stands for kelly. >> not 1,000. >> this is kelly. this is maricopa county, the largest county in the state. the new votes that just came in, 7,320 net gain for mark kelly, which increased his state-wide lead to 95,000. >> he was about 85,000. >> he was 87,000, and it went up to 95,000 and change. these are the 65,000-plus votes that were just counted. there are tens of thousands of more votes to count. but if you're the candidate with the lead, you want to be going up, not down. >> it was 73%, estimated reporting. now it's 76%. and kelly went up 10,000. that doesn't mean, we should note, that's going to be the trend every time new votes come. let's look at the governor's race here, because it has also
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been good news for the democratic gubernatorial nominee, katie hobbs. her number went up from about 3,000 or so -- >> right. >> -- to now she's in the lead by 13,000. >> she went up to 9 earlier. about 9,000. she got 4,960 margin, a net gain of 4,960 votes. she now leads kari lake. your lead is growing. that's where you want to be. there are tens of thousands more votes to count. the question here, when we get additional vote releases from maricopa county and pima county, we're waiting there as well, can you identify a trend. we just had two races. in the democratic race for senate, in the race for the senate, the race for democrats went up. we'll see if that continues as we get more votes because we had the flip of that in 2020 where biden had a bigger lead in arizona. last few times we got votes, his
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lead shrunk quite a bit. that's one of the dynamics when people are voting early by mail, early by drop boxes, showing up at election day, the combination has changed the way we count votes. we wait and get more. at the moment, in this latest release, both democrats built their leads. they're happy. more to come. >> people want to be assured of what's going to happen, and we cannot tell you that this trend is going to keep happening every time new votes come in. kyung lah, you're in phoenix. good news for democrats. tell us what's going on where you are. >> reporter: you know, the jury is still kind of out because what we don't know and what none of these campaigns are telling me, and i'm constantly chatting with these campaigns throughout the day, is they're looking for those trend lines. what they don't know in these batches we're getting from maricopa county, is what is happening with those late earlies, those mail-in voters, that were delivered and dropped off in person sometime friday
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and election day. they don't know because voting patterns have changed. it really the wild west right now when it comes to what happens with the late earlies. are they going to trend republican or democrat? if you talk to the republicans in these two campaigns, they will tell you that the expectation is they are going to lean heavily to the republicans. and then democrats, when we talk to the democrats, especially with mark kelly's campaign, they are looking to win big in pima. that's a trend that has been traditionally in favor of the democrats. and i was just talking with the democratic source, and that source was saying that really they are pulling out their pens, their calculators, their laptops, and they are trying to work with their data gurus in their war rooms to try to figure out what are the new trends? have the voting patterns changed, or are they consistent? what we can tell you is that everything, all of this tenuousness, not really knowing which way voter behavior is going, they're having real world
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impact. kari lake's campaign, who has been very, very confident about her being able to catch up and overtake democrat katie hobbs, they are meeting throughout the day with a number of transition team -- would-be transition team members. that includes members of the former trump team, ag matt whitaker, as well as a member of former jan brewer's team, trying to establish a transition team when and if she does become governor. >> thank you so much. joining us now to discuss, the white house chief of staff for president biden, ron klain. ron, thanks so much for joining us. so, we still don't know what's going to happen here. it seems as though republicans will likely take over the house. we don't know yet. it's possible that republicans will take over the senate. and yet phil mattingly earlier today said the mood inside the white house is jubilant. explain for our viewers why that is. >> well, you know, jake, as you know, we've already secured the seats we've won in the house,
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the strongest result for any president in a first midterm in 40 years. and the strongest results we think we're going to see in the senate for any president in 60 years. we secured the strongest results in governor's races for any president in his first midterm in 50 years. we have broken historical records here. we had candidates running on the president's record, the president's agenda, and they produced very strong outcomes. as you say, the house is still tough. we feel good about the senate. wherever this comes out, it's going to really break historical precedent for the ratification of the president's agenda and how our party did in this election. >> why do you think that is? why do you think you were able to do that? because obviously -- i don't mean to be rude, but the president's approval ratings are not very high, and obviously inflation remains a problem. people are worried about a recession. why is it you were able to change the dynamic to the degree
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you were? >> jake, i think it's a couple things. i think the accomplishments that the president did with some bipartisan support, with some help from democrats in congress of course, gave people something to run on. that's why you saw democratic incumbent frontliners succeed at an unprecedented level. they ran on fighting covid, infrastructure, chips advanced manufacturing. they had a record. the president also framed this as a choice, not a referendum. i think when you contrasted what the democrats stood for and the republican maga agenda, the threat to blow up the economy, to cut social security and medicare, the effort to roll back abortion rights, i think that contrast was one that lead voters in a very ahistoric way to vote for democratic candidates. >> there's a big decision that needs to be made when it comes to raising the debt ceiling and funding the government. are you going to try to have
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that done during this lame duck session so you don't have to deal with speaker mccarthy and his team having it in their hands? >> first of all, i think it's premature to talk about speaker mccarthy. it's possible but not decided yet. certainly we want to see as much progress made on the country's priorities in the lame duck. when -- the president said today. when he gets back from asia, he's going to meet with democratic and republican leaders and talk about what kind of progress we can see in this lame duck. the government runs out of money in mid-december. we have to fund the government. we shouldn't have a government shutdown right before christmas. we have other priorities too. the congress works through to january 3rd. we want to see progress during this lame duck session. >> one of the ironies of the democrats defeating these extreme maga candidates in races yesterday, is that that makes -- assuming there is a speaker mccarthy, that would make his majority pretty narrow, which actually empowers the maga
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members of the republican caucus, the marjorie taylor greenes, of the world, the andy biggs, the paul gosars, and on and on. are you prepared for that? because that's going to need investigations into almost everything that has happened and even some things that have not happened by the biden administration, investigations into the president's son, hunter, investigations into perhaps impeachment of department of homeland security mayorkas, and on and on. are you ready for that? >> look, we're always ready for fair, legitimate oversight. >> that's not what i asked. i didn't -- i'm not asking about fair and legitimate oversight. >> i understand. what i am saying though jake is if that's what it is, we're ready for it. i think one reason republicans faded at the end of this campaign is they stopped talking about what they could do for families and start talking about what they were going to do to the president's family. i don't think that's what the voters want to see. they want to see washington work
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to bring down prices, to continue to fight covid, to work on the urgent economic challenges we face as a country. i don't want to see a bunch of political gains from the house of representatives. >> hey, ron. it's dana bash. i want to ask you about one thing that the president was asked today, which is what he would do differently, assuming at the very least that there is a republican-led house. and his response was, nothing. and he was noting the legislative successes that he says that you all had beforehand that are going to kick in down the road. but assuming that he wants to do other things going forward and the republicans are in charge of the house, he is going to have to work with republicans to get something done. is there something that you can say that would be on your agenda if, in fact, that does happen, that you would need bipartisan support for? >> yeah, dana, i think his point in saying "nothing" was since the day he got here, he has
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tried to work with republicans in both the house and senate. he signed over 150 bipartisan bills in two years, including that landmark infrastructure law, the chips act, veterans health. so, we're going to continue to look, as we have, for areas where we can work with republicans. the president specifically mentioned mental health today as one area we've heard a lot of republicans say they want to see the country tackle that problem. hopefully that's something we can do together. the president has the cancer moon shot initiative, which, again, shouldn't go along party lines. everyone knows someone in their family who has been touched by cancer and wants to see us see progress in fighting this disease. we're going to continue to help veterans. we're going to stand up for what the president believes in. some things he will not compromise on, he will not cut social security, will not cut medicare, will not let republicans ban abortion. >> what about immigration? this is, i know, something that everybody has been trying to do
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for going back, i don't know, two, three, presidents. and it's very difficult unless you have real partners. is that doable in this climate? >> we're going to find out. certainly the president sent an immigration bill to capitol hill the first day he got to the white house. if there's a chance to do something on immigration, we'd love to see that. the country needs immigration reform, and progress on that. that's another area we would certainly be interested in talking to republicans about that. >> there is going to be a runoff in the state of georgia. will president biden go down and campaign with and for raphael warnock. >> i have to be careful because that's a future election. we're going to do whatever senator warnock wants the president to do that he thinks would be helpful. >> do you think it would be helpful? >> i don't want to violate the act. >> don't want to get you in trouble. i see the building behind you.
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>> thanks very much. let's talk with our team here. david axelrod, dana brings up immigration. there are huge numbers of gridlocked, incredibly serious issues, that there has been little progress on. any sign that there could be progress on -- i mean, something like immigration, which is such a difficult topic. >> i mean, it's hard to be terribly optimistic, given the history of that issue. i mean, there was a bipartisan bill that passed the senate with large numbers during the obama administration, never got through. it wasn't called for a vote in the house. and one of the questions is if republicans control the house, would you run into the same kind of obstacle there, even if you could work it through the senate? we've seen some significant compromises in the past year, you know, on infrastructure and other things. but, you know, it's going to be such -- this is one of the consequences of this very small majority that kevin mccarthy's going to have if he has it, or
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whoever is the speaker, because they're just not going to get a lot of leeway to work on this issue. so, you know, i think ron is right to take the tact that he's taking and to say, we're going to test this and see what we can get done. and i think they're going to try. but politics won't -- i don't think politics are going to lend themselves to that. >> you know, with trump running, if he does announce next week, he was very much opposed to even the infrastructure compromise. and so he will change that calculation because he doesn't want anything to get done. he didn't want anything to get done last time. he was all over mitch mcconnell for signing onto that infrastructure bill, and i think he's going to be trying to pull some strings from outside the congress and say, look, you guys can't do this. and even if it's areas like combatting opioid abuse, for example, or fighting crime or holding tech companies
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accountable, which are, you know, mutually agreeable issues in some way, i think trump's impact will be very large, don't you think? >> i think also with the slim potential house republican majority and an empowered right flank, we're going to struggle to even keep the lights on. funding the government is going to be a challenge. dealing with the debt ceiling, the ndaa, these basic functions of government that have to happen are going to be a challenge in a divided government. i would love to see a bipartisan deal on immigration. we've wanted to see that dating back to bush. but i would be shocked if that happens heading into a presidential contest two years out. >> the house is its own set of problems, given how thin the republican majority is likely to be. >> mcconnell, his part, trump was all over him. trump wasn't able to influence him out of it, and they did do some bipartisan work. mcconnell has said he's
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interpreted the elections as saying americans wanting do the work between the two 40 yard lines. you could interpret it the same way. you could see the senate maybe going in that direction. but i agree, with alyssa. >> our election coverage continues in a moment. the gap narrowing in the nevada race. new numbers next. financial picture.r full with the right balance of risk and reward. so you can enjoy more of...this. this is the planning effect. can we even afford this house? maybe jacob can finally get a job. the house whisperer! this house says use realtor.com to see homes in your budget. you're staying in school, jacob! realtor.com. to each their home. does your antiperspirant keep you dry all day? we've put dove men dry spray to the test... with nelson, a volunteer who puts care into everything he does.
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the balance of power in the u.s. congress at stake tonight, even as new vote numbers come in from key battleground states. we're on the ground in all the key states with cnn national correspondent gary tuchman in nevada for us. gary, tell us what's happening with vote counting where you are. >> reporter: jake e as we speak, we are getting more results here from the state of nevada. this is the clarke county
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election department. inside the building, we were just are inside, we watched the vote counters counting, tabulating mail-in ballots. these were ballots that were mailed in, as the name implies, or were dropped in drop boxes. they would be counting about 14,000 today. here is what we've learned. the democratic senator catherine cortez masto was behind adam lax all . adam laxalt has 4,000 more votes. that's a net gain for masto of 4,989 votes. she's behind cortez masto. so, that means right now with my mathematics standing here, she is about 17,000 votes behind. back to you, jake. >> gary tuchman, thanks so much.
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i'm at the magic wall. let's talk about this nevada race because this is the opposite of what we see going on in arizona. here you have the republican in the lead by about almost 18,000 votes against an incumbent democrat. can she make it up? >> the question is do the other remaining outstanding votes come in like this? again, if you're looking at clarke county, the most democratic county -- >> that's nevada -- i mean las vegas. >> remember, the 2020 experience. biden got the majority, a big majority, of the votes in clarke county. biden got the big majority in pennsylvania in the philadelphia area and the suburbs around it. the question is -- we just had this conversation in arizona. will we get another installment of votes, and are the same trends continuing, or are we getting different kind of ballots? ballots mailed in a couple weeks before versus ballots that came in the last minute. the democrats in arizona increased their leads. senator cortez masto is the incumbent democrat, and this seat is absolutely critical to the math in the balance of
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senate. just shy of 4,900 votes off the lead of adam laxalt. he is still in the lead. as important as this is, this is what you're looking at cortez masto has to have a higher percentage because she's trailing i. helps if you're doing that, more than two to one. where they came from here. this is clarke county. we're up to 86% now. this is 74% of the vote, 74% in the state comes from right here. so, this is where the most of the votes are outstanding. this is obviously the most important county. look at -- i just want to show you the margins. as we watch these additional votes come in, is she getting that 65% in the next installment of votes? she's at 51.3 to 45.8. i want to go back to the presidential race to show you this is very competitive territory. in clarke county last time, just shy of nine points, almost 10 points. you're looking there. if you come to the senate race,
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the democratic candidate for senate doesn't have quite that margin. so, she wants to stretch it out. she needs to run it up here is the idea, run it up here to offset this, right? so, especially the other conversation. forgive me, is that these votes here in the second largest county, this is a genuine swing county. it's 15% of the population as opposed to 60-plus-percent of the population. they're all running neck and neck here. the question is if the end of the count, if this flips to blue, cortez masto is in pretty good state. if it stays red, she can still win, but she would need to continue to get high percentages like she just did, more than two to one in clarke county. >> you just showed us clarke county, which is las vegas. and in that county, cortez masto is underperforming what joe biden did by a little, and adam laxalt is overperforming what donald trump did. and this is a state that joe
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biden won narrowly. do you have a way of finding out where else in the state senator cortez masto underperformed biden? >> there's your answer there. he's underperforming him in clarke county, traditional republican counties anyway. in a close race, you say, oh, that's red. last night in georgia in the senate race, the margins matter. let's just see what it is. right now you see cortez masto here. this is republican by 54 points last time. it's not -- you're not talking a huge difference here. but you're not talking a huge difference here, but again a percentage or two, couple hundred votes or three can matter when you get through it as you go. >> this is the second biggest county other than clarke county. >> biden won this by 4.5 and she's trailing by 4. >> yeah. >> i'm not trying to insult the great people of nevada who live in these counties. every vote matters in a competitive election. but the way to swing it -- the big vote releases as they count the late ballots are going to come from here and here,
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overwhelmingly from here. watch this one. if at the end of the day, washo is blue, there's a pretty good chance she has caught up. if it stays red, it's a leading indicator the winner here as long as this stays deep blue. >> if i were advising -- let's go back to nevada. if i were advising adam laxalt a year ago, if i were going to advise him, i would say, what you need to do is you need to get the same turnout that president trump got in rural nevada. you need to get the same turnout, and then you need to trim away at the margins in the democratic counties, clarke county, and then -- what's this? >> washington. >> and washu county. he's done that? right? >> so far. >> where is he overperforming trump? >> let's look at that, then i want to make a quick point here. we look at overperforming trump in the countys that count. in the counties where the
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populations are. >> i'm just saying he ran the campaign. i don't know how this is going to end, but he ran the campaign he needed to run just in terms of the margins and the turnout. he ran the campaign he needed to run in the most populous counties in order to win. i'm not saying he's going to win, but, you know, he's in the lead right now. >> so, when we get to the end, we can break down whether that works out too. remember, this will be a place -- we have not seen this. the florida republicans, marco rubio and ron desantis, have a lot to brag about when it comes to the latino vote in miami-dade. they did not continue building, and democrats would say -- as soon as we end this i'm going to have texts from democrats saying, we were better than that. this was the other test in arizona as well. this was a big test as well. in the end, we'll know more. remember here, what dominates vegas? the hospitality industry. >> right. >> what dominates reno. >> same thing. >> the same thing.
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the hospitality industry. at the peak of covid, the unemployment rate in nevada was over-28%. now it is back down below 5%. when you take a body blow like that, the bruise lasts. so, yes, you're right. laxalt is running a pretty good campaign. he also has a much better environment than donald trump had in 2020 when he was running here in the sense that you have a lot of people -- gas prices here, a buck a gallon higher than the national average. >> right. >> so, this is a tough environment for senator cortez masto. it's a tough environment for any democrat because you have the national trends that are even exacerbated more here because of the blow they took during covid and because of the energy costs now. it is a very tough environment for her. still, she has a demographic advantage here, unless, to your point, laxalt chipped away. >> let's get more on the state of play in nevada because brianna keilar is at the voting death. >> you mentioned this is where vegas is, most populous county,
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70% of the entire population of the state in fact. all eyes on the ballots coming in from the county's roughly 300 drop boxes. there were nearly 57,000 ballots that were picked up on tuesday. that's in addition to the nearly 15,000 ballots picked up from drop boxes on monday. and we're still expecting some of those results this evening. so, those are the drop boxes. and then you have other ballots that people drop in mailboxes that are arriving through the u.s. postal service. and officials are processing 12,700 mail ballots, and they will continue to do that through friday. the county registrar said that all in-person election day votes have been counted minus roughly 5,555 provisional ballots, which will be counted by next wednesday. and then finally, there are more than 9,500 voters on the cure list, meaning there's something on their ballot that needs to be fixed. they need to correct it.
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more than 5,000 voters have not yet cured those ballots, but they have until monday, november 14th, to fix those mistakes. and there's an unknown number of ballots postmarked by election day that can be coming in. those can arrive up until saturday, so there's a lot to count in clarke county, jake. >> brianna, thanks so much. gen z in the house, coming up next meet congressman maxwell frost, the first of gen z to be elected to congress. stay with us. there's nothing like volunteering at the fire department.
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is among them. >> the 25-year-old democrat who will represent florida's 10th district will be the first member of gen z in congress. he joins us now. >> thank you. >> did you see the president's remarks today. >> i did. i was mid flight, but when i turned on my wye fyffe. >> he gave you a shoutout. >> last night i was pleased to call maxwell frost, i guess the youngest man elected to congress, he's off to an incredible start to a long distinguished start. and when he's president, he'll say joe who. >> so, you are well aware that you are going to be joining a group of people who are much older than you. some could be your parents, grandparents, maybe even great grandparents. how are you going to approach that? >> well, it's the same thing i've approached every other job
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in my career, from aclu, to march for our lives, just working with folks, building strong relationships so we can deliver for people at home in central florida and work to deliver the values we believe across the country. >> you were saying last night was a huge moment for you, obviously, in your young life, 25 years old. but it was also a big moment for your state of florida. you were a democrat elected the in a democratic seat, but you got a republican governor, ron desantis. just listen to a little bit of his victory speech from last night. >> florida was a refuge of sanity when the world went mad. we stood as a scitadel of freedm for people across this country and indeed across the world. we will never ever surrender to the woke mob. florida is where woke goes to die. >> just an incredibly strident speech from desantis. but congressman-elect, do you think he's speaking to you and
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your generation when he's talking about the woke mob and carrying out a lot of this culture war argument in the state of florida? >> well, governor desantis is doing is scapegoating vulnerable communities due to his failures. he's not talking about affordable housing. he's not talking about the leading cause of death for young people is gun violence. he's not talking about the fact people are losing their access to abortion. he's talking about these culture war bids. he's more interested in running for president than running our state, and we saw that on display last night and we're going continue toe sioux it for the next two years. >> how are you going to approach your job given your age? and do you think -- i know you're going to represent your entire district. but you are also representing a generation, generation z. so, how are you going to look at it differently given that? >> you know, i think it really has to do -- when people ask me, what does gen z care about, i think we care about the same
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issues, but generation z is seeing them from a different lens. seeing occupy wall street, learning about trayvon martin, parkland, march for our lives, these are the moments that are defining for a generation. and i think i'm taking that perspective to congress and the urgency these issues really deserv deserve. >> you really came into your adulthood as an activist on the issue of guns. and especially after what happened in texas at yet another elementary school, how dou you feel about the state of gun politics in this country? it almost seems frankly as if we're -- it's getting harder to get to compromise on issues as it relates to gun control or reducing gun violence, especially the kind that has been taking the lives of so many young kids. >> i've been in this fight since the sandy hook shootings for a decade now sh since i was 15
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years old. this issue moves slower than molasses. it's the one issue that impacts 100 people a day. we've seen action over the last two years, the bipartisan bill and gun violence is really important. and it's a step forward. it's not everything we need. if something is going to five one, two, three, four, five lives a day, that's worth it because behind every person, there's a human. >> congress is big, it's unruly. a lot of people who are freshman, young, whether they're 25 or even older, they look for role models. who is your role model? who do you want to be like as a legislature? >> there are too many to name. >> just pick one. >> i will say someone who helped me on was congressman jones. he reached out early on as a young, black, progressive elected and he's someone i look up to and i count as a friend. >> do you have any plans for washington? i bet you've been here a little bit given what you've been up to. any things you're looking forward to doing on capitol hill in this city now that you'll be
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here a little more? >> obviously the work that i'm sent here to do. but i'm a musician and i'm actually really excited to dive into the music scene. >> what do you play? >> drums. percussion. >> that's interesting. >> yeah. >> great. we'll have you on for a set or something. >> maybe i can play some drums. >> thank you so much. >> congratulations. and thank you. >> thank you for having me. stay right there. we have another projection on the works. it'll be on the side of a quick break. dove 0% is different. we left aluminum out and put unbeatable 48 hours freshness and 1 quarter moisturizers... in. dove 0% aluminum deodorant. instantly dry feel and kind on skin.
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welcome back. we have a new projection to make in the race for the u.s. house of representatives. in iowa, cnn projects the republican state senator zack nunn has succeeded in ousting democratic incumbent congresswoman sidney axne in a purple district that trump won by less than half a percentage point in 2020. let's go to the balance of power now. in the house of representatives, 188 democrats have been elected. that includes four pickups. republicans have 208 seats.
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that includes 16 pickups. 39 seats remain to be called, and there are 218 seats that you need to have to win control of congress. the state of play right now in terms of the outstanding competitive seats, republicans need to win seven of them. democrats have a taller order. they need to win 23 of the competitive seats. anderson? >> jake, thanks very much. i want to talk more now on the senate and a very tight race in senate, so tight in fact it is heading to a runoff. i want go to atlanta. jeff zeleny is there. the campaigns are not wasting any time going back into campaign mode. >> reporter: anderson, they're not. and all eyes tonight are on nevada and arizona because what happens there affects their races here. here's why. if control of the senate hinges on georgia, this is certainly going to heighten the importance of this race over the next month. but as you said, they're not wasting any time. starting tomorrow, ted cruz, of course the texas senator, is the beginning of the cavalry that's
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arriving here in georgia. republicans are planning to flank herschel walker, try and build up his support. and that starts tomorrow night with a rally that ted cruz is hosting in cherokee county. it's about an hour or so north of atlanta. and it's one of the very places that herschel walker underperformed governor brian kemp by about 9,000 votes or so. when we look at the vote totals across the state in georgia, it was happening in red counties, really in all corners. and it's one of the concerns for republicans, that herschel walker underperformed the republican governor by 200,000 votes across the state. ted cruz is coming here. other senators are lining up day by day. and campaign staffers are coming here to georgia to try and help build him up. the question is, are those the kind of voters they need? they also need independent and swing voters. that's where senator raphael warnock, who is still in the fight of his life. yes, he was some 17,000 or so votes ahead, but still needs to get over that 50%.
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he also is bringing the in a lot of surrogates. i'm told early conversations have been held with former president barack obama, who came here at the end of the general election period. one question, are two other presidents going to come? former president donald trump, who did not step foot into georgia during the campaign period, even though he recruited joe biden,. senator warnock clearly did not want him here during the campaign period. and you may be asking why a runoff? only two states, georgia and louisiana, have runoffs in general election. they're actually from laws from the '60s and '70s that some said were trying to keep some out of office. a lot of interesting history, certainly when two black men are on the ticket, a republican and a democrat. ander son? >> and jeff, has the governor, brian kemp, said that he
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would -- i think we lost jeff. i'll talk to the panel. do you think brian kemp is going to campaign? >> that was the question i was going to ask. so, brian kemp really performed. brian kemp outperformed herschel. brian kemp did this. brian kemp ran up big numbers in georgia. i would keep everybody out of the state but brian kemp. >> don jr. wrote an op-ed, pence came down. no one wanted trump there. but trump hated not having the attention. so, he showed up. >> do you think he'll show up this time? >> i think he'll show up this time. i think everyone with 2024 aspirations steps in. i think desantis helps in some way. it's the first showing. >> herschel, just keep brian kemp, no one else. >> you're absolutely right. if the battle is for those independent voters in the suburbs -- >> who we saw broke for democrats. >> yeah. warnock got 55% from the
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independent vote in georgia. he needs to -- walker needs to penetrate that. but it will be a fundamentally different race depending on whether it's for control of the senate or not. if it's for control of the senate, i think you're going to see a lot of people making the argument, hold your nose and vote for walker. >> yaerks but, you know, without kemp at the top of the ticket, you know, the question is how much more difficult is it going to be for walker? i mean, kemp did so much better than walker, and you could say, you know, he brought along a lot of votes for walker. now, kemp is going to campaign for him, i bet. republicans will campaign for him. you saw that happening right now on election, before the election. so, they'll all be down there. but independent voters, where are they going to go? >> brian kemp's most popular republican in the state of georgia. >> my understanding is that governor kemp and other senior republican officials have had conversations today about the need for him to put his arms around herschel walker.
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as jeff pointed out, there's just a ton of counties out there with a lot of republicans votes that kemp got and walker didn't get. kemp is the key to unlocking that. also, libertarian got about two points, 80-something-thousand votes. those people need to be corralled as well. they attacked the walker campaign as being as liberal as warnock. i don't know who those voters are. but 80,000 could make a difference. i believe those conversations are already taking place. and my advice to the walker campaign would be, call kemp's campaign team and say, come to the office, get the white board, and let's discuss. >> you know, look, i know they ran their own separate campaigns, but there's only one and there's a whole group of people out there. >> so, what would you recommend for warnock. >> first of all, i think -- just want to point to the history here.
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it's gotten normal, but it ain't normal to have two african american men running to represent georgia in a state with the history that georgia has. and that's a big deal. and why is that possible? it's possible because stacey abrams, who's now lost twice, built a machine that made turnout possible for both ossoff and warnock. you can beat somebody -- i just want to give stacey abrams a little bit of acknowledgment here. she's not going to be governor. she's probably never going to be governor. but you can have a cause that succeeds when your candidacy fails. her candidacy failed, but her cause has succeeded. it is possible now for black folks to win state-wide in georgia in both parties. that's a big deal. i think warnock is going to need an awful lot of help. i don't think that he should keep anybody out of state who wants to come and help him. my belief is we're going to have another repeat. it's going to come back down. and if, in fact, he pulls it
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off, warnock, he will owe stacey abrams. if walker wins, he's going to owe kemp. >> we should remember why kemp, why warnock -- i mean, why walker is in the race. trump put him in the race. kemp is popular partly because he stood up to trump. so, that's something he can't convey to walker. >> 62,000 additional ballots now in the hands of arizona election officials. we'll look at how they could impact the senate race and gubernatorial races in that state. we'll be right back.
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600,000 uncounted votes in arizona. when you and i talked about this a little earlier, we were about approximately 700,000 uncounted. you noticed the 62,000 that came from from maricopa. we got some other votes around the state. now we think it is about 600,000 votes uncounted. what does each candidate need to do? blake masters is currently behind. he needs 54% to 57% of the remaining votes to overtake mark kelly and win the race. mark kelly does not need as much. he only needs between 40% and 43% of the outstanding vote. we know that the bulk of that vote is in maricopa county. there's a big chunk of outstanding vote, we believe, in pima county, both of which are counties that mark kelly has been doing better than this number. but what we are looking for here is a pattern change. will these votes from those
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counties present a different pattern? in other words, does masters start doing better with the batches of votes that come in because they were late arriving. we heard, for instance, there were 290,000 ballots dropped off just yesterday in maricopa county from the official, who said that was a record. does that have a different pattern than we've seen so far in the county? we will look at that, but that's what blake masters needs. >> all right, i'm back with the panel. chris, the irony. we heard the assistant secretary of state describe in pain and the irony people are using the fact this takes so long as evidence that there's something -- there's malfeasance afoot couldn't be more inaccurate. >> she seemed so precise and so earnest and so bureaucratic in a positive sense about we're going to do this -- she also made it clear her boss, katie hobbs, the secretary of state who's running
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against kari lake for governor is going to have absolutely nothing to do with this count. just hearing what david chalian said there's no doubt if either of these candidates, the republicans lose, they're going to make a fuss and say if there were irregularities here. listen in the republican primary kari lake said she didn't trust that vote and when she won she said i outvoted the fraud. so this is just an election litigation waiting to happen. >> she told me on "state of the union" a few weeks ago that she would accept the results when she wins and she wouldn't even go there on the question of whether she didn't win. and she started to sow doubt in the vote last week when she gave her speech. conk lah reported on this, which doesn't make sense to me because she wants the rest of the votes to be counted. because right now based on what we see look at the screen katie
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hobbs says 53%, she's 49.7%. she says she believes she's ultimately going to win. well, the only way she can actually win is for all the votes -- >> you're taking her at face value as if she's a rational human being and this isn't like an act. >> i'm trying to explain facts and numbers and math. >> i keep thinking back that phone call that we learned about between donald trump and blake masters and how trump was chastising him for not handling questions like this in the way kari lake clearly is, that it is a political stance, right? that's what she's doing. she's taking -- i don't know partisan is the right word. but she's taking a trumpian stance about this. i don't expect her to do anything other than say it's wrong. >> the only thing -- we're sort of sitting here talking about this for hours on end so we have to find some levity in a little bit of the conversation, but
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it's pretty dangerous, and we are counting the votes. we don't know how it's going to turn out. she could very well turn out to be the next governor of arizona, and if she does, she's already said her very first order of business is going to be start involving herself in how the state carries out elections. now, i'm not trying to say that everything that arizona does is done perfectly and that there's no room for improvement, but when you have someone who doesn't believe basic facts like the last election was legitimately won by president biden, then you start to question what she's going to be after. and i think that's where we are with this. kari lake is very much an election denier and has no regrets about it and also spins some really wild conspiracy theories. and i think if you're an arizona voter you should probably be pretty confident those conspiracy theories would come with her to the governor's -- >> if you look at our exit poll 35% of arizona voters say they
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did not believe that joe biden is the legitimately elected president of the united states. >> which might actually be a bigger number or a smaller number. >> no, my point is, though, she's not out there by herself. there is a sizable minority but a sizable portion of the arizona electorate that says right on. >> that's like the same number as -- >> so much of this is rooted in infantile behavior. if i win it's legitimate and if i don't it's illegitimate. chris, donald trump said something i think was so telling. i think it was an interview with fox digital. but understand about the candidates he endorsed. he said if i won i get credit for it, but if i lost i don't share any of the blame. that's like a quote. >> you can't make this stuff up. when they win it's all on me, if they lose, it's their fault.
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>> i just will say we're absolutely right about kari lake, et cetera. across the map there's actually been a lot of examples in the last 24 hours of people actually doing the right thing in terms of conceding their elections and actually standing up and, again, like the reason that 35% of arizona voters didn't think joe biden didn't win the election is because political leaders told them that happened and they believe those political leaders. it shows you it's very important that our leaders do the right thing. and we've seen a series of things that have been encouraging that say there's an understanding that voters are rejecting this environment where everything is completely polarized, people are lying, there's increased political violence like the attack on paul pelosi. you had glenn youngkin write this letter to her saying he was sorry. >> i don't think mastriano did, though. >> yes, there are examples. and kari lake may be another one, but, you know, i am hopeful
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it is a busy night for election officials in arizona. they've been scrambling to process and count more ballots. we're crunching all the new numbers as they come in tonight. the nation of course is waiting for the final word on which party or parties will be in charge of the house and the senate over the next two years. i'm jake tapper in washington. arizona will be one of the deciders in the fight for control of the u.s. senate. take a look at the state of play right now. at this mo
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