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it is a busy night for election officials in arizona. they've been scrambling to process and count more ballots. we're crunching all the new numbers as they come in tonight. the nation of course is waiting for the final word on which party or parties will be in charge of the house and the senate over the next two years. i'm jake tapper in washington. arizona will be one of the deciders in the fight for control of the u.s. senate. take a look at the state of play right now. at this moment democrats have 48
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u.s. senate seats. republicans have 49. republicans need two more seats to reach the magic number of 51 required to retake control of the u.s. sen, and three senate races remain undecided in georgia, in arizona, and nevada. now, we know the georgia race is heading to a runoff in december because neither candidate got above 50% of the vote. it's possible senate control wit not be determined until then. but it could be determined by what happens in nevada and arizona. turning to the house, the numbers just changed again a little while ago. remember 218 seats are needed to control the house of representatives. democrats have 188 seats including four pickups. republicans now have 208 seats, moving closer and closer to the threshold to retake the majority of the house. 39 races that could tilt control of the house remain as of now
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undecided. but let's go back to arizona now because cnn's senior international correspondent conk l kyung lah is watching the race for us. and all eyes on maricopa county the most populous county in all of the grand canyon state. >> these campaigns absolutely feel the weight of everything you are talking about, jake. the control of the u.s. senate comes down to these little number we're looking at, and that is very clear when you talk to the various campaigns. i've spoken to a flurry of sources at all the campaigns. let's start with democrat mark kelly. a source with knowledge of what's happening in the campaign callsatize, quote, a good batch, that this is something they were expecting and it is building. so they feel good about it.
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it's going their way. as far as the masters campaign someone with knowledge -- a source with knowledge of what's happening in the masters war room called it, quote, the worst drop but they knew it would be. so it was not a surprise. they knew this one would not be very good but they're expecting and hoping things were going to change. as far as the kari lake campaign they are saying this isn't super predictive where this is going. the campaign at the kari lake headquarters still believe things are going to change. what maricopa has said it is those early ballots filled in and then dropped off in person, the expectation from the kari lake campaign and the masters campaign is that those are going to lean-to the republicans and you're going to start seeing tomorrow some change. now, we can't predict how this is going to go because this is unpredictable. voting patterns have changed so
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hutch. the way voters feel and believe has changed constantly from 2018 to 2020 here in this state. so woo do not know how this is going to go. the hope by these campaigns tomorrow is going to be a different day. the confidence in the kari lake campaign is that there was a press conference scheduled this evening to react from this data dump, but that press conference was canceled. this count is taking a long time. so eveon the though they are projecting this sort of confidence there's certainly hesitation as these numbers trickle out. >> as theilate great william goldman once said nobody knows nothing. kyung lah, thanks so much. the other great state we're wondering about tonight is nevada. and we find gary tuchman to get us up to speed about the senate and governor's race there. >> reporter: there's still tens of thousands of votes to count here in the state of nevada. clark county about three quarters of the population lives
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in this country. this building behind me is the clark county election headquarters. i want to show you some pictures of tabulation. these are not in-person votes from yesterday. those votes are all done. these are mail-in ballots. every person who votes in the state of nevada who registered to vote there's been an extraordinary number of mail-in ballots sent in since october 24th and there are lots of votes still to come. we were inside we watched them tabulating the votes and you'll not see any faces for security reasons. the election workers didn't want their faces shown and also republican and democratic observers in there. they didn't want their faces shown. when the day started the incumbent u.s. senator catherine cortez masto was trailing adam laxalt. they counted 13,327 votes. car cortez masto got 9,558.
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that's a net gain for cortez masto of 4,989 votes so the lead has gone from a 22,500 to 17,500. and now this is just the tip of the iceberg tomorrow, another 12,700 votes roughly and they were received in the mail today counted. and also here's the big number, about 57,000 votes that were put in boxes yesterday at voting centers about 300 boxes, so a total of 74,000 more votes are expected to be counted tomorrow. and one more thing, jake, after that we still have tomorrow, friday and saturday for more mail-in ballots to arrive. as long as they were postmark by yesterday they'll arrive over the next three days and that's conceivably tens of thousands more votes so anything can happen. >> gary tuchman, thanks so much. that's updates from arizona and nevada, and john walk us through nevada. what's going on?
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>> let's walk through the micro, if you will, and then we'll come out to the macro what gary just said and he told us we're waiting and waiting a while and we have the georgia runoff december 6th and for anybody thinking tonight i'm going to know, it's not going to be tonight but could be just more votes. as gary just noted the last time they released some votes here gained in clark county and narrowed the republican state, so she is winning by the largest county right now in the state, but she is trailing in the statewide vote count. in part because adam laxalt as we discussed last time this is running reasonably competitive and running very strong in the traditional republican areas. again this is -- it's less than one half of 1% of the population. but in a close race every vote counts but in these smaller
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counties you see what he's doing again less than 600 votes, but in a close race you take all you can. so he's doing what you can in the smaller counties and nevada and vegas is 60% plus and that's clark county and up to reno and the northern border 16% and he's narrowly ahead at the moment. and a majority of the votes in clark county, vegas and the suburbs. this matters too especially if masto keeps making up ground in clark county the question is does she make up ground here as well where it's very competitive or can laxalt keep this red? we're also waiting on the senate race here where the last time we did get kyung was with us as they released more votes there. senator kelly is gaining, inching up a little bit in arizona, but both correspondents
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say, what, tens of thousands more votes, which means we need to be patient. and your patience is something that matters obviously to the citizens of those two important western states but matters to this, control of the united states senate. let me clear this and see where we can come back to where we are and come back right now. here's the races we have called. the democrats successfully it's a big one flipped pennsylvania. we knew that last night. georgia, we're now certain goes to a runoff december 6th so that one will toss up and undecided there. which is why these states out west matter so much. right now the democrat is leading here. the democrat is leading there, mark kelly, the republican is leading there. here's where we are at the moment, if both of those races they finish counting the votes, georgia would decide control of the united states senate. democrats would need it to get to where we are now. it would be a change. it would flip pennsylvania for nevada 50-50, vice president breaks the tie. if the democrats can get nevada
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and hold arizona, georgia is about the cushion. right, if republicans can get arizona, georgia is about to cushion. we're going through this interesting math as we wait, and it's frustrating i'm sure. but if you're mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer and the president of the united states and any partisan democrat sitting at home, partisan republican sitting at home saying i need this answer, got to wait. >> and it is entirely possible that after millions of dollars -- hundreds of millions of dollars and years of scrambling and fighting, that we end up back where we started with the 50-50 senate. if the runoff election ends as the last runoff election did -- and remember rafael warnock, this is now his third statewide race in two years because he ran in 2020, then he ran in the runoff there in 2021, now he's running in 2022. this is his third race. he could win in december. i'm not saying he will but he
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could, and if that happens all you've done is swapped pennsylvania and nevada. >> correct. and it's 50-50 tie in the united states senate. you're right if you're a local radio or tv station in any of those states you're happy. if you're anybody else you're maybe a little frustrated. we have to laugh because you're at this day two and we're going to be doing this for some time. the states here are enormous and consequential which is why i want to come back to where we are at the moment. we go through these hypotheticals. and there are three races not called. we have very dramatic states still waiting in the house. the governor's race in both nevada and arizona still in play. incredibly important states, again, for the citizens of those states and also among the arizona, nevada, pennsylvania, georgia, michigan, wisconsin. these are the states that will decides our presidential politics for the foreseeable future, and it's been a fascinating couple of days and we have more to go. >> and we remain a divided
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and we're back with our election coverage. our mid-term election coverage, and a new projection cnn can reveal right now. in new york democratic congressman pat ryan has been re-elected, cnn projects. ryan is an army veteran who's been in congress just a few months. he won a special election in august. now let's turn to a controversial member of congress. but before we do that let us give you the balance of power right now. the balance of power the democrats have 189 seats. that includes four pickups, and republicans have 208 seats that includes 16 pickups. 38 seats remain needed to control the magic number, of course, 218. the state of play right now when it comes to those competitive house seats that we have not yet call, democrats need to win 22 of them in order to win or keep control of the house of representatives.
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republicans need to just win seven of the competitive seats that are outstanding. now let's turn to a controversial member of congress whose political future seems in peril tonight. >> we're talking about congresswoman lauren bobert who finds herself in an unexpectedly tight race in what was supposed to be a reliably gop district, i mean very reliably gop. she has national name recognition as beloved by trump republicans and condemned by biberals for election denialism and heckling president biden during the "state of the union." so what's happening right now, she's very narrowly trailing adam, a former aspen city councilman right now by less than 100 votes. let's zoom in here on pueblo
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county because this is a county that trends democratic. and i spoke tonight with gilbert ortiz, the clerk there and he told me all the outstanding votes to count were all election day votes. actually just reported out 2,000 of those votes he told me they were going to report out, but the teams here they are exhausted. they've been working 18-hour daysch they didn't sleep, so thore not going to be done here. they're going to be back 9:00 a.m. mountain time. that's going to be essential in seeing what happens in this race that a lot of people are watching they didn't expect they would be. >> that's interesting. i have to say one of the things that makes me think maybe bobert is not necessarily trouble is there's been election day votes.
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jenally speaking election day votes tend to go republican and early votes tend to go democratic. am i wrong about that? >> no, early votes tend to go democrat, election votes tend to be republican votes. looking for more votes, she was talking about pueblo county here. you can see this is an estimate. it's a mid-term political environment. you're not sure where turnout is going to be so we make our best with our partners to get an estimated reporting. they need tired and need sleep, but it's a democratic area. joe biden only carried this piece of it by two counties. but you can see adam is running it by nine. he's running well in this area. that's one piece of the district. that's some of it. i mean this is what we're going through on a smaller scale -- just what we're going through in arizona and nevada, what's outstanding, what case the district not the state they're
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in and how many elsewhere. >> let's look at this county which also trends strongly democratic, i mean very strongly democratic. the spread here is huge. it's like 4-1 democrats to republicans here. and i got in -- i got ahold of the clerk there, and she told me that they had reported out there of their votes as of 1:50 a.m. this morning, so the only thing outstanding there they have some military ballots that have until next week to arrive. they have some cured ballots. they have a very small number of ballots that actually went to other counties they're going to be counting. but this is important to look at because this is an area where he's actually a former aspen city councilman, so he's just raking in the votes here. >> although it's small. it's a small county. >> again, biden carried this small county by 52 and you see here carrying by 59. to briana's point you're waiting for those military ballots so you wait to see how it goes.
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>> she says it's totally done but you have to keep in mind in colorado they have eight days to cure the results. if somebody made a mistake on their ballot they have eight days to fix that. this is where grand junction is located. this trends in favor of lauren bobert here and they're waiting on approximately 5,000 military ballots, ballots the machines had trouble reading, those cured ballots as well. it pictures here how razor close this is. and if this race is within half a percentage point which is very well could be, it will trigger recount. that's how colorado goes. so you can imagine how that's going to play out. >> she's up by about 15 points in this, but it's an r plus 28.
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>> underperforming in a republican area. you could make an argument, we could make this case in other districts the more trumpy republican candidates have had trouble in this environment. she is as trumpy as they come. other controversies in the past it would be great to get on the ground reporting from there without a doubt. donald trump two years ago carried mesa county. that's 15.6. >> she is underperforming trump consistently in all of these counties that i looked at. and keep in mind that her district overall, and it has changed. look, this has changed but this is still a district even with last year's redistricting that was almost plus ten gop district. this is colorado's western slope. it's a southern part of the state. it should not be this close, so you have voters here sending
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lauren bobert a message. whether she squeaks this out which has been increasingly up in the air here or she loses. >> we were talking about this earlier in colorado there were two other races. the governor who won 58% or something, 57.2% and then the income bnt senator michael bennett, it tells you generally speaking the voter in colorado was generally to the left than the right. that's not necessarily the case in bobert's district but seemed -- how did she win two years ago? >> the lines are not exactly the same. >> it's different. >> we could go back to the house now and you can go back to the house now and you can look at the district here.
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she got 51%. she has a tough race but you can see the lines. >> and they redistricted it to make it less republican. it was r plus 8 this time. what was it last time? the same. >> some of the lines don't change that much. to your point about the governor's race and you come back in now, you know, statewide candidates running big but in the combination if i want to come back and we talked about this before if you look statewide at the competitive seats come back in, come back out, here we go, so you have the colorado house, right? 6-2, two in competitive seats. just bring up -- i'm going to take the county up. you look at the competitive seats here it's another state. it's another state in competitive seats you have the democrats doing better than republicans would have
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anticipated in what they thought was a republican year. and again in this one year republicans leading in two. democrats leading in two of the competitive districts which includes this one right here. that is not the dynamic republicans were thinking about two weebs ago, four weeks ago, six months ago. >> and also don't discount the fact that bennett and they were pulling adam frisch with them. >> often those military ballots overseas affect the margins in the end. coming up what president biden said today about his plans to run for re-election after democrats beat expectations in his report card. this as election night in america continues. stay with us.
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and welcome back. president biden said in his white house news conference late this afternoon he isn't any hurry to reanannounce his re-election 2020 bid. >> our intention is to win again. when i announce if my intention is to run again, but i'm a great respecter of fate and this is ultimately a family decision. i think everybody wants tme to run but we're going to have discussions about it. i don't feel any hurry one way or another to make that judgment today or tomorrow no matter what my predecessor does.
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my guess is next year we'll make that judgment but it's my plan to do it. >> he may not be having a discussion but let's have a discussion. david axelrod? >> look, i do think the timing matters to everyone else because if his decision -- i think if the president runs he's going to be the nominee of the democratic party, and i think people who think otherwise are mistaken. there is -- even if people aren't necessarily eager for him to run and the polling suggests, and these exit polls suggested that is the case, there's a lot of affection for joe biden. there's respect for joe biden and i think he'll be the nominee if he decides to run. but if he's not going to run, it does matter when he announces because the democratic party is going to have to have a campaign, and campaigns are how you find out who is going to lead you forward. it is a long, rigorous, oral exam. and the shorter the runway, the less opportunity there is for
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people to surface. so that's going to become a matter of concern for people. his habit has been to decide these things late. i don't think he has the luxury to do that at least if he's thinking about the party and the country he needs to do it by the first quarter of next year. >> you think if he gets it next week biden feels compelled to get it quicker? >> not if you guys rip trump apart -- >> we would never do that. >> i'll tell you what i think it changed. i always said, oh, if trump gets in he's going to want to run against him and beat him. now even if trump gets in next week who knows who the nominee is going to be because trump has been wounded after this election. so running against a rick desantis is very different from running against a donald trump. and don't forget during the last campaign to david's age issue, he campaigned during covid. he wasn't out on the campaign trail constantly, which you have
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to do as a presidential cant dt. so this would be a very different campaign for him. one other thing that struck me when he said i'm a great respecter of fate. he is because a lot of things that happened in his life that were not planned including, you know, untimely deaths, et cetera. so for somebody who's aging i take that kind of seriously. >> he's basically the president because he's not bernie sanders and he's not donald trump. those were his great attributes to get elected in 2020, and he looks better in the data from cnn's exit polls because he's not donald trump. his approval rating is 44%. donald trump is like 39% favorable, so he looks a little bit better than trump. 86% of democrats approve of him, but only 52% say they want him to run for re-election. to your point you made earlier there's a lot of democrats that think kindly of joe biden but they are so ready to move on. there's a lot of republicans
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that are ready to move on. nobody wants this rematch, and i do think there's a move in this country for people to find younger candidates. you can love joe biden and donald trump but also love the idea a new generation of leadership is needed by both parties. >> i agree with david if joe biden runs he will be the nominee, but because he's not made up his mind and created a vanishing window to make it, the democrats not doing enough to groom the next heir apparent whether it's a pete buttigieg, give him an ambassadorship, the vice president -- >> that's not the way it works, though. you know what happens? people run and they prove themselves. pete buttigieg is a good example. he was a small town mayor four years ago and he ran in a national race and because of the way he performed in that race he became a national -- >> the point is i don't think there's somebody today most democrats would rally around and say this is the obvious person. that's where you want to be as a
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party. >> you're talking about the great democratic bench. you have governor whitmer. wes moore got elected, josh shapiro in pennsylvania. there's these democratic governors chomping at the bit to get in the races. >> i think it's a tough thing to sort out. i think the reason that it would be wise for biden to think about letting somebody else have a shot is i think you've got to think where's this country going to be in two years? i think most of these elections are change elections. i don't think we're in a left wing period, a right-wing period. i think we're in a turbulent volatile period. and in two years the economy is still sputtering forward. and i don't see anything going to help us. we're going to have gridlock in d.c., china's economy slowing down. you're going to have a very swamped economy in two years, it's going to be a changed election. let the republicans put their
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and we have a cnn projection. in california republican representative wins election over marshall. take a look where the balance of power stands now. democrats now have 189 house seats. republicans now up to 209, nine short of the 218 needed to win control of the house. 37 seats remain undecided. the white house confirming president biden spoke by phone
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tonight with house minority leader kevin mccarthy who hopes to become house speaker. earlier mccarthy spoke briefly about whether he has the vote. >> i'm hearing from a source familiar with that call it was a short and polite phone call. now, earlier tonight when joe biden was talking to reporters he was asked about his relationship with kevin mccarthy. he really didn't get into any sort of details about what that relationship is, but they really don't have much of a working relationship. they haven't spoken much in the first two years of the biden administration, but assuming kevin mccarthy does become house speaker this relationship could be critical in determining what can get done in the next two years, and what are the basic functionings of government, as well as extending the national debt limit, one of the major issues they'll have to deal with
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in the new congress and things could get very tense very quickly. the republican majority assuming they'd take the majority wants to go after hunter biden, investigate the president's son over his foreign business dealings. all those issues will come to a head in the republican congress, but those topics were not discussed in this very brief and polite phone call from tonight. but, anderson, it is not unusual for a new president to deal -- a president to deal with a new speaker. remember what happened when donald trump and nancy pelosi, how contentious that relationship became after pelosi became speaker after donald trump's first mid-term or when barack obama had to deal with john boehner who became speaker after the 2010 republican wave there. they, too, had to learn how to work together. and they too were at logger heads from time to time over major fiscal fights over the obama years. the biden-mccarthy relationship
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welcome back. as with all elections experts are going to be combing through the numbers from this mid-term vote for years. latino voters showed up big for florida governor ron desantis, a republican. and that demographic will play a crucial role in the senate and the governors races in arizona. let's bring in cnn political director david chalian with us at the exit polls. tell us more. >> yeah, we're taking a look at how the latino vote split between key senate candidates in some critical battleground states. first up here, jake, in arizona.
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latinos according to the exit polls make up 17% of the electorate in arizona in this mid-term election, and they split kelly 58%, masters 40%. that's a little closer, a little more narrow advantage for the democrats than joe biden had against trump in arizona two years ago. we also took a look in nevada, and what you see in nevada is cortez masto had 62% of latinos. they make up 12% of the vote in nevada. adam laxalt gets 33% according to our exit polls. this is roughly in line with what the biden-trump latino split was in nevada two years ago. in georgia latinos make up 6% of the overall vote in georgia. you see warnock winning them 58% to 39%. this, too, is a little more narrow than the advantage biden had over trump in georgia in 2020. so you do see slight inroads
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that republicans are making with latinos in these key states. and in arizona fetterman gets 16% to mehmet oz's 30%. in pennsylvania they only make up 8% of the electorate, but that's an increase significantly so from two years ago when latinos were 5% of the electorate in pennsylvania. >> all right, david, so interesting. and boris sanchez the latino vote is not uniform and it's different in florida than it is in texas than it is in california. >> absolutely. and if ulook at these numbers on the surface it appears the democrats have some breathing room. there's advantage nearly 20 points in some of these races, but if you get into the details where some of these races were just a year ago, for example, rafael warnock had 64% in his runoff last year, similar for stacey abrams. mark kelly of arizona hit 55% in
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2020. he's down to 58. these are small numbers but ultimately if these races are within the margins that makes a huge difference. >> i went out to nevada and to arizona and was looking at the republican push to try to expand and that's exactly the way they approach it is they don't expect to get, you know, from a 5% jump from one election to the next, but they want to try to slowly make in-roads. the nrfc, the national republican senatorial committee, they started an out in hispanic neighborhoods, knocking on doors, just introducing themselves and the notion of republican ideas and the policies that they support. i don't know if that was part of it. but if you just look at arizona in particular, joe biden in 2020 -- i will just go to donald trump -- donald trump in 2020 got 37%.
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right now looks like blake masters got 48% of the hispanic vote. >> i will say, this is something i have also been reporting on over the last few months. i think there was a lot of hope among republicans that they could make much bigger inroads. they have been seeing, in the numbers, a lot of dissatisfaction among latinos with the economy that was leading them to be more interested in voting for another party. and i think that last night, what they got were tinier shifts than they were really expecting. and in some key places too -- we are talking about nevada and arizona in the west. but in south texas, they had three competitive districts where they ran latino candidates. two of those three candidates lost to the democrat in places where, honestly, democrats were a little bit concerned, along the border where they had been having a lot more russian. i think last night was not
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quite the shift republicans had been looking for. and i think tonight, i hear a lot more relief from democrats, seeing smaller shifts, but shifts that they feel like they can address in future -- >> clinton actually campaigned in three districts at the very closing days of the midterm campaign, which tells you how democrats were focusing on it at the time. and i think they definitely were trying to measure to see what are the shifts that we were seeing -- in a region, everyone was out on the trail reporting on this -- where they the kind of thing that was going to be unrecoverable? and i think what they learned is that, no, they still have a chance to make sure that this is a place where they are focusing. i did talk to a couple of latino operatives who want to make sure that the democrats don't take for granted what is happening here, that it was a little better. >> that's something i've heard from a lot of democratic voters, they feel the party has taken them for granted, especially the ones that is whichever to
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republicans. i want to point out quickly, if -- if you look at -- definitely 10% than it was in 2018, specifically among latino men. and an 11 point bump for republicans. >> if i could, the concern, quickly, is that this concern is not just happening broadly across the, map it's who it is with. it's not just cuban americans in south florida, demographic and over. well it's with puerto ricans, it's with colombians, it's with central americans. and it's not just for candidates with like ron desantis, is for a slew of republicans. >> -- marco rubio and ron desantis did very, very well. and as much as democrats might be breathing a sigh of relief that it was not worse, they're whistling past the graveyard because there is institutional change going on here. and john and stallone, e biden's pollster, what about this in the wall street journal a few days ago. the fact is that minority voters, latinos and african americans, are slowly moving to the republican party. that does not mean that they
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are going in droves and it does not mean that the democrats are still getting sizeable majorities. but in these tight races, all you need is to pick off 2%, 3% more. and we were just talking about this, the change in arizona, how republicans did you slightly better. the change in other places -- and we are still counting votes. so, some of the reason that these races are so close is because, instead of democrats winning 70% of the latino vote, they won 65%. >> it is not just also -- the share of the vote is important. but one thing to keep in mind is the drop off. if you have voters who might have shown up two years ago or four years ago, who don't show up for you today, i think democrats are dealing with both problems at the same time. a lot of them want to argue that it is not a significant. but jake, you are absolutely right, the shifts don't have to be absolutely huge to matter. one interesting thing, though, republicans this year ran the most diverse slate of candidates that they have ever
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run. a lot of those candidates lost, interestingly, in some of these competitive races in virginia. yes leave a a losing narrowly to abigail spanberger. there's two republicans in south texas -- so, they are making those efforts. but those candidates are not necessarily winning. >> right. 13 republican -- exactly right. >> coming up, new details of the closely watched -- in arizona nevada. we are going to go live to both battleground states. this is election night in america continued. stay with us.
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>> welcome back, it is 11 pm on the east coast tonight, 9 pm in phoenix, arizona, where election officials are still on the job, working their way through hundreds of thousands of ballots. with a do their will matter in the nation's capital, control of the u.s. house and senate, covered prizes for both parties, still to be decided at this hour. i am anderson cooper, this is cnn's election night coverage in america -- here is what this fight for the senate looks like right now. democrats have 48 senate seats. republicans have 49. they need two more seats to reach the 50 51 required to take senate control. georgia, arizona and nevada are the three states with undecided senate races that will determine which party controls the chamber. it could all come down to a december runoff in georgia depending on what happens in arizona and nevada. now to the house, these are the most up to date numbers -- democrats have won 189 seats. republicans now have 209, just
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nine short of the 218 needed for control of the house. 37 races remain up in the air at this hour. on the ground in all the key battleground states -- gary tuchman is in north las vegas, nevada for us. gary? what is the latest? >> anderson, hello to you here in nevada's most populous county of clark county, almost three quarters of nevadans live. there's still a lot of tabulating going on at the clock county elections department. between today and tomorrow it's expected that the people who work here will be counting an additional 83,000 ballots. today they counted 13,000 more ballots. these are not ballots of people who voted -- in person. those ballots are all counted. what these are mail-in ballots. you may say to yourself, where they counting tens of thousands of ballots like this? it sounds weird, it sounds suspicious. it is not at all suspicious. it is not at all weird. they seem to have been doing a great job. and this was to be expected because this state prioritizes
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mail-in ballots. every single person who register to vote here in the state of nevada received a mail-in ballot. so, they have received lots of them over the last two weeks. in addition to that, as long as it was postmarked by yesterday, the mail-in ballots can be received by this saturday. so, we don't know on thursday, friday or saturday how many more ballots are coming. it could be a huge number also. so, there's a lot still to come. so when the day started, the race between senator catherine cortez masto and adam laxalt, the republican challenger, he was up by about 22,000 votes. after the count of initial 13,000 ballots today, she has gained about 5000 votes. so, she has tight in this race. if anyone is going to tell you, we know who is going to win this, one thing you can tell them -- >> gary tuchman, thanks. i want to go to david chalian at the battleground desk. david, what are you looking at right now? >> hey, anderson, we are
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looking at that outstanding vote in nevada. and we have an estimate that about approximately 160,000 votes remain uncounted in this nevada senate race. so our decision desk did some calculations of what each candidate would need to get -- what portion of that 160,000 outstanding votes -- catherine cortez masto, who is currently behind in the vote count, the incumbent democrat, would need in the range of 52 to 55% of that outstanding vote to overtake adam laxalt and win this election. for his part, adam laxalt, who is ahead, obviously, he only needs 42% to 45% of those 160,000 -- roughly, an estimate -- outstanding votes in nevada. so, when you watch those next batch of votes come in, we will be able to see if those candidates are sort of meeting these targets of what they would need to win the race. >> all right, david chalian, we will be watching.
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now to cnn senior national correspondent -- in phoenix. maricopa county election officials just reported, i understand, kellan, an additional 62,000 ballots, a short time ago. it's on top of the 100,000 votes ballots -- to be counted. >> yes. absolutely. let's take put this within a certain frame, anderson. we are talking about just about 60,000 votes that came out from maricopa county tonight. we've heard from all the campaigns. there's been a flurry of responses. what we are hearing from the democrats is that, yes, this is, good this leads their way -- okay. did not go our way so much, but it is also what they expected. and then all of these campaigns are saying, it is just 60,000 votes. what they are looking for is tomorrow. that's the thing that all the campaigns are saying. tomorrow, they expect that things will really get interesting here in maricopa
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county. there are 300 370,000 late early votes yet to be counted. so, what are those votes? those are the mail-in ballots that arrived at maricopa county between saturday and tuesday, election day. or those ballots -- that mail-in ballots that were filled in and then dropped off in person. those are what are known as the late early here in maricopa county. now the republicans are trying to spin it, trying to say that they believe that these votes will go their way, that they will break to republicans. but the reality is is that it is very difficult to know because vote patterns have shifted so much. voter habits have changed dramatically. most dramatically here in our zona because of the influence of donald trump as well as the pandemic from 2018 to 2020 to today. so all of this may be the wild west. that is what we are hearing from the campaigns. tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow. and it depends, anderson, how quickly they can begin to
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370,000 votes. it is still anybody's game. anderson? >> yeah, a lot of work -- appreciated. john king is also looking at the arizona numbers. -- >> anderson, 24 hours after the polls close on the west coast, we still have, as we had two years ago, uncertainty about two very important states in american politics, arizona nevada. you just heard from arizona from kyung, let's go to arizona, where kyung is. -- if you remember the dynamics in 2020 it was joe biden's lead that kept shrinking. he won the state in the end but as the -- ballots came in. the key is what happens as we go forward and david laid out the percentages in nevada. we have the percentages for our zone as well so we have to watch this play out. it's a vital state. and obviously a vital race, a democratic incumbent facing a challenger from a trump endorsed republican there. it's critical to the 50 50 balance we currently have in the senate. where will it end up? then quickly, in nevada, this is where gary is.
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he's in clark county. it's 75% to 74% of the state that's voted, and the question is, can catherine cortez masto improve that percentage as more and more votes coming in? that's what she needs to overcome. one of the key question there is, can she turn washoe. washoe county where reno is, and the rural areas to the north, that's a swing county. usually, the color of this county in the and candid herman who wins the state. laxalt with a slightly there right now, again, -- to be counted. i want to come to this other matches very quickly to get to the question here. . that's why these races matter? well, of course they matter to the citizens of arizona and nevada. they also matter to the dynamics here in washington, who controls the united states senate. this is a runoff. in georgia, we know that now, on december 6th. with a question is, if senator kelly can keep his lead here -- and senator laxalt can keep that lead here, neither of these are guaranteed, as you heard both correspondence, tens of thousands of votes still to be counted. but they're still consequential because of that happened, if there's two ways to stay the same, well then, guess what?
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republicans have 50 and democrats have 49, and then once again the georgia runoff would determine control of the united states senate, if democrats could get back to 50, where they are now, with the vice president breaks the tie, and republicans get to 51. so, any change in those races affects whether or not this runoff in december is decisive, anderson. and we are going to have to wait, listening to kyung and gary, to get to that. but quickly, i want to come over, you mentioned the i was shows at the top of the race. i want to show you the map as it fills in. it looks like a lot of red but republicans on of the finish line. republicans thought by now -- they thought by this time last night -- we would be saying that there will be a republican majority in the house of representatives. here we, our wednesday night, 11:07 pm in the. east republicans are called -- they have called 209. so, they are now nine house seats short, from 2:18, the magic number for a majority. the democrats seats behind them now with 189. let's look ahead. this is really interesting. republicans are ahead right now in enough seats -- enough seats, if nothing changes -- to get a majority.
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but look how narrow majority it would be if it stopped right now. it is not going to stop right now. some of these races will take days, some could take longer than that to count. but you just get the expectation from looking at those numbers where they stand right now. but yes, the probability is that republicans get to majority. it's also likely that that's going to be a very narrow majority. one last point, anderson, back or before i come back. not enough attention in my view has been paid to this. democratic governor gets a new democratic governor in pennsylvania -- democratic governor reelected in michigan, democratic governor reelected in wisconsin, democratic governor reelected in minnesota. we talk a lot about the battleground states that are here. they matter. who will win the governorship in nevada? who will win the governorship in arizona? these states right here -- long time ago used to call them the blue wall. they are incredibly important and now if you -- one more time, you come up here, right in there. yes, the governor of ohio was reelected but the democrats helped pennsylvania, held michigan and held -- these governors races, under, i think, an underappreciated story for the democratic party in the results.
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>> john, king appreciate it. john, stay right there, we are going to stand by for more projections. how this election is ramping up, the showdown between former president and ron desantis. (vo) a thin painted line. the only thing between you and a life-changing accident. but are these lines enough? a subaru with eyesight... (kid vo) hey dad! (vo) ...watches the lines for any danger... and can automatically stop itself. (mom) is everyone ok? (kid) i'm ok. (vo) your family is safer in a three-row subaru ascent. love. it's what makes subaru, subaru.
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yes, florida has been trending republican since george w. bush kicked out his victory over al gore by 537 votes 22 years ago. but this was something to note. because desantis won two democratic strongholds -- miami-dade county and palm beach counties -- he won latino voters by 18 percentage points. joe biden won them two years ago. it's no wonder why donald trump has already begun attacking rhonda santas. cnn national correspondent -- is in palm beach, florida. kristen, we are now hearing that trump and his team are gearing up for what they view as an inevitable showdown with governor desantis. >> that's, right jake. they ended the night on tuesday and really into wednesday morning in the exact opposite place of where they wanted to be. this is what they have been trying to avoid, a scenario in which trump's candidates fizzled and flops and his rival, ron desantis, soared to the top and that's exactly where we ended up on wednesday morning.
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we saw this momentum win by florida governor ron desantis, who is widely seen as former president donald trump's most formidable opponent should they both enter the race in 2024. now we know that advisers are trying to gear up for what they would view as, as you said, as the inevitable, a trump desantis showdown in 2024, trying to figure out what exactly that looks like and how exactly they go after the florida governor -- and right now that appears incredibly daunting, not just because of this huge win that he had in florida, but also because of the momentum that he has picked up from republicans and from donors. you reported earlier today that rupert murdoch, the owner of many conservative outlets, seems more than thrilled to throw trump to the side and embrace rhonda santas as the head of the republican party. and because of, that we have already started to see trump attacked desantis. in an interview on monday night he said this -- he said, i don't know if he is running. i think if he runs he could
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hurt himself very badly. i think he would be making a mistake and i don't think the base would like it. i don't think it would be good for the party. i would tell you things about him that would be very unflattering, a clear threat here. i will note that for months behind closed doors, trump has told close advisers that he feels he's upset with ron desantis. -- back in 2018, which trump believes is the reason he became the florida governor in the first place. so, all of this really coming down to the wire. and one thing to point out, though, jake, right now the showdown, this battle, is really one-sided. ron desantis just won his governor's race. but it's trump who is taking him on. and of course, even though last night was last locker last lackluster results for trump -- advisers have spent most of the day trying to convince him to delay any sort of announcement for a third presidential bid. it seems, as of now, that trump is set on announcing next tuesday for his third presidential bid.
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so, again, this is just the beginning. one adviser telling me that these insults that we heard trump saying in this interview are just the tip of the iceberg, that they expect it to get much nastier -- >> i don't doubt it for one. second kristen holmes, thanks so much. and just to put it into context, guys, ron desantis one in 2018 by 0.4% of the vote. 0.4%. last 91 by almost 20 points. and he addressed this in his acceptance speech last night. take a look at this. >> thanks to the overwhelming support of the people of florida, we not only won the election. we have re-written the political map. this election, we will have garnered a significant number of votes from people who may not have voted for me four years ago. and i just want to let you know, i am honored to have earned your trust and your support. >> whatever people think of him, he's a force to be reckoned with. >> his approval rating in the
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state's almost 60%, according to exit polls. that's used, especially in today's politics and especially considering that his whole brand seems to be just facing the other side of. that doesn't seem to have hurt him. -- there's always a lot going on. but it seems to me that florida voters are willing to look past some of the bravado but maybe they like the way he is running the state. i think covid has a lot to do with it. and the question for ron desantis -- not to skip over florida -- but really, i think what he's thinking of and his allies are thinking is, how much of this is export-able? and how much of it is something to do with something as governor? people like what he is doing. >> it seems to be export-able when it comes to the republicans, potential republican presidential electorate. if nothing else, in the chattering or fundraising class that is the republican operatives class, it's desantis, desantis, desantis, which is why he's living range free in donald trump said. and i'm going to you back to
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you, when somebody said, the other night, you usually counter punches -- and you said, well, he punched just by existing, as far as donald trump is concerned. >> i think trump would love it if ron desantis you would just -- out. but he's a constituent. so, they are always going to need each other. >> i want to step back and meditate on something for a moment. because ron desantis put dozens of winners whaling in silence seekers on a plane to martha's vineyard, a very controversial step, a very hard-line immigration -- and in miami dave county, a community of -- winning among cuban americans and others in that community that have -- >> puerto ricans. >> puerto ricans. and that's where i was going. you talk to a lot of democrats, south florida, you fearmonger and socialism, you will hammer, that you will win. that doesn't explain why puerto ricans supported him. a majority of puerto ricans -- 55% -- they don't have a generational
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trauma associated with socialism. so, i think there's something stylistic about rhonda scent is that it feels appeals to latinos. >> it's a hard one style -- he is just confronting everything at every turn. and he stole that from trump. ron desantis took it from trump. if you talk to people in florida about ron desantis, there is some truth to the idea that he owes donald trump everything, that that 0.4% margin or whatever it was he got back in 2018 was simply because trump got on his bandwagon. so, trump knows that. he's also sort of vaguely threatened him by saying he seems to know something about his wife. -- >> it was really direct, i should say that. that's a more accurate way to put it. the one caveat that i have is that there have been so many moments where republicans have started to say, this is the moment for donald trump, this is where we can finally -- i mean, indication of a lot of them, i talk to privately,
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they're like, yes, we can break free of free of him -- it never turns out to be the case. the voters take with trump inside the republican party. so i will believe it when i see it. but i'm going to be hesitant to buy it until it actually plays out. >> -- republicans want desantis to be the guy who takes trump out. but they are not willing to do it it takes, which really would be to back ron desantis at the beginning and make this a one-on-one race. you talk to republicans, and they're like, well, it's probably going to be a bunch of people at the beginning and that's exactly how don trump became the republican nominee. so, at the end of the day, ron desantis might have to do the same thing all these other republicans did back in 2016. and we see how that turned out. >> ron desantis can throw a punch. we've seen him do that in florida. the question is, is he willing to try to throw a punch outs donald trump. i am not yet convinced that he is. first of all, he does, to at least a small degree, oh his
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success -- trump endorsed him in a primary. and that is one of the reasons he is now the governor. second of all, a lot of people -- we watch this in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 -- they expected someone else to take out donald trump for him. -- of -- off. donald trump remains the most powerful, popular person in the republican party. if governor desantis wants to be the next president, he's going to have to be willing to throw a punch. >> he is. and here's the other thing. they are convinced that -- and this performance will feed into it -- but that him being where he's in florida, the power he has amassed in florida, the experience he's amassed in florida is going to be enough to get him to the white house, perhaps relatively easily. i am sorry, but having covered a number of of these presidential campaigns, no one gets to these the white house easily and everyone is surprised by the crucible that it represents. trump has done it before. desantis has not. >> i think that ron desantis is
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a strong candidate, no question. but he should talk to marco rubio and jeb bush in florida if he thinks he can wait for somebody else to take on donald trump for him. and they might have a couple things to say about that. the balance of power in the house is changing hour by hour, race by race, and we have another projection in the works. on the other side of the break. stay with us. seatgeek presents the reeeeally into its. the confidence of knowing your concert tickets are legit, brings everything to life. yeah! seatgeek handles the tickets, so fans can fan. [ marcia ] my dental health was not good. i had periodontal disease, and i just didn't feel well. but then i found clearchoice.
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>> more votes are in. it's time to make another projection in the house of representatives. in california, democratic congressman incumbent raul ruiz,
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who is first elected in 2012, cnn projects he is going to win his reelection against republican brian hawkins, a pastor and city councilman. in washington say's tenth congressional district, cnn projects projects the democratic congresswoman maryland strickland will win reelection against her republican challenger keith swank. strickland is the former mayor of tacoma. -- let's take a look now with the balance of power in the house of representatives. right now democrats have 191 seeds. they have picked up for. republicans have 209. they have picked up 16. 35 seats remain. 218 is the magic number, as we know. republicans only have to win a few more seats to win control of the house of representatives. what about those extending competitive seats? democrats need to win 22 of them. 22 of them. republicans have to win only
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seven of them. so, things still seem to be progressing towards republicans taking over the house of representatives by a narrow margin. right now we are going to talk to the reelected democratic congressman from new york, pat ryan. congressman, you were just reelected, congratulations. a lot of people saw -- you in a special election over the summer -- a lot of people saw that as a referendum on abortion rights, which was one of the major issues -- i know you talked about other issues -- but that was an issue that you talked about quite a bit. do you see this victory last night and again today in the same light? is it a victory on the issue of abortion rights? >> it feels good to have two victories in six months. and in both of our races, we centered the broader concept of defending americans freedoms. reproductive freedoms, lots of other critical rights and freedoms from voting rights, lgbtq rights on the line -- and we saw people respond, not
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once but twice, that when a fellow americans rights are ripped away we stand up. and we say, that's not who we are as a country. so, i am so proud that, once again, our community deliver that and that's the -- >> you focus some of your campaign on the issue of protecting democracy. your opponent had greeted groups that went to the january 6th insurrection and only seemed to really reluctantly acknowledge joe biden's 2020 election win. did that help you win, do you think? and do you think the results of the election and the defeat of so many of these election liars -- although, to be honest, quite a few of them won also -- do you think that's going to weaken the grip that these election conspiracies have had when it comes to the republican party? >> i hope so with every ounce that i have. far too many one, as you said, jake. but here, we defeated someone
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who did sow doubt upon the most sacred part of our democracy, which is trust in free and fair elections. i think we had, in my case, a west point grad, a combat veteran who literally fought to protect our democracy abroad. and now, having to defend it here against someone who is a -- denier, an insurrectionist supporter. and so i think we need to continue to deliver more of these victories -- not even, this is about democrat republican. this is about being an american. >> let's talk for second they are about your experience as a combat veteran. what do you think that brings to your ability to be a member of congress? do you think that makes you more reluctant to vote for the authorization use of force? do you think it makes you more hawkish, more dovish? what role is a plan using foreign policy and military intervention? >> having been on the receiving
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end of, i think, some pretty bad foreign policy and going to iraq and how we conducted the war there, i will certainly be a voice to say that the use of military force has to be the absolute last resort. i think we need to repeal the post 9:11 am uf that is still out there and has been used to justify a lot of foreign interventions that have cost lives and blood and treasure. and i think we need a lot more voices at the table who will really ask those hard questions and understand the gravity of those decisions. >> democrats beat expectations but still look as though you are going to lose control of the house of representatives. do you think that your leaders of the democratic party in the house need to change priorities in any way? >> we are quick to always focus on -- you know, i think, the
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downsides. but there's a lot of upside here. a lot of the take -- just like before my special election in august, that we wouldn't, win that a red wave was coming -- didn't fan out in august when we had our victory. it did not pan out when here. because we don't give enough credit to the american people. they see that fundamental rights and freedoms are being taken away and that is not who we are as a country. and democrats stand for protecting those rights. and reinstating those rights, especially reproductive rights and freedoms. and that we are also delivering on -- belief. and that one to combination has put us in a position where we have once again defy the conventional wisdom. and i think this is very encouraging and hopeful, from my perspective, and i think a lot of people across the country. >> all right, congressman pat ryan, we elected in new york. and a completely new congressional district. so, that had to be interesting. thank you so much. and congratulations again.
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we are going to sneak in a quick break. we will be right back with more election coverage continues on cnn.
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>> welcome back, political landscape in the wake of the midterm elections has grown clearer but one of the most closely watched election contest won't be settled for week -- democratic incumbent senator raphael warnock in georgia, a republican challenger herschel
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walker headed toward a runoff election next month. -- cnn's jeff delaney -- jeff, you are learning more about the upcoming ad wide of the georgia runoff. the amount of money that's already been spent on ads. it's only going to get more. >> anderson, it's really extraordinary. a quarter of a billion dollars in ads has been spent in this entire election cycle. and it certainly is going to be more over the next week. i am told that advertising strategist on both sides are already working on ad campaigns. and of course, one thing i'm picking up from republicans is that they were watching the presidents news conference today at the white house, and when hey was asked if he would do anything different in the second two years in office. and he said, nothing. republican strategist i'm talking to say that they are going to test that message and potentially use that in an advertising campaign here to try to make this race a referendum again on the biden administration, trying to urge georgia voters to be a check, if you will -- a check and balance on the power of the white house. so, of course, democrats have
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ads of their own, still trying to disqualify a republican challenger herschel walker. the state has been awash in ads, billboards, and direct mail coming to people's houses. it's hard to imagine any new messages indeed, can come up. that's why the press conference to the white house, i'm told, sort of got the attention of some republican ad makers. what i'm also learning that a couple of other people who will be playing a role in this runoff are people who were on the ballot yesterday, republican governor brian kemp, of course, who has a big organization and grassroots organization. he, of course, defeated democrat stacey abrams. he has a big organization of her own, a big democratic following. so, both of them will be helping the respective candidates for that runoff race. so, even as nevada and arizona are counting votes theories about to be a descending on georgia from republican and democratic strategist. i'm told there has been an all call of staffers who are working in races in different states across the country to come here to georgia to work here in the final four weeks of this campaign. so, early voting is going to begin in just three weeks time
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right after thanksgiving. and this runoff will be december 6th. it could determine control of the senate. we don't know, that of course. we will see what happens in nevada and arizona. but more spending and more ads, one more months of exhaustion here in georgia -- anderson? >> jeff zeleny. thanks, appreciate it. people in georgia must be so sick of political ads as it is. the idea that more coming -- as you know, -- is this effective? >> i think it is effective. i think messages get across. i think there is a glut to on the marketplace at some point and they become less effective. but i think it's the bluntest weapon there is in politics. and they are going to use it. if i had dave urban's money i would be buying a stevie station. >> i just got an email from herschel asking for money. >> it's going to be -- >> i wonder about the messages.
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maybe there is not so much persuasion left to do. but there is certainly engagement left to do. people who voted, you've got to remind them -- you've got to vote again. both parties are going to have to do that. so, for republicans, using biden to remind republicans, you've got to turn out one more time, and then there's also that matter of that 80 something thousand people who voted for the third party. can you get them to come to your side? maybe both parties will be competing for them. so, maybe not last persuasion, but certainly some engagement. >> doesn't it depend on what the stakes are, really, if -- we don't know what the results are in arizona and nevada. but if it is four indeed for control of the senate, that is a whole different ball game. and we saw what happened to republicans during the campaign you had. candidates like ryan youngkin glenn youngkin going to campaign for kari lake, because controlling the -- it had to do that. and look, if that is what it becomes, this is going to be an all out battle. and who knows how many millions and millions of dollars are going to be spent?
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>> and they will be wasted. because people are sick of that stuff. i'm going to tell you, i don't believe that this next smartest marginal dollar is for another ad saying something mean about someone. i think what's going to win this thing is going to be organizing. i think the field gets starved every time. there are groups in georgia like the movement voter project, black voters matter, color of change, push black -- they have a different model. it is relational. they do basketball tournaments. they do health clinics. they do all kinds of stuff. and they engage human beings as human beings and then they move them to vote. it's actually cheaper. usually, it cost about 700 bucks for additional voter. these guys have models of 60 bucks, 70 bucks. so, it is cheaper to support a pushback, a color of change, a black voters matter, and you get more out of it. and you are depressing people
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with terrible as a no one wants to watch anyway. >> the other component that i expect to see is, if it's a battle for control of the senate is, a lot of celebrity endorsements coming out for raphael warnock. i would expect that you would see some of the counties and came in last time that there was a runoff. i don't know how much that actually helps. i think, to your point, organizing on the ground is what we need. and on the republican side, what is going to be a challenge is, what figures are off putting to voters? because independents are going to matter, attracting some of those -- peeling off some of those libertarian votes. if you and someone like a trump who may turn them off, that may hurt herschel walker than help them him. >> -- donald trump. i think of don trump decides -- i think if he decides to show up that is going to have an impact on the race. to van jones's point, i think -- much better perspective on dragging people to the polls. whatever methodology you used to engage to get people there, that's going to be far more important than spending the money on -- >> guys, i don't think money is going to be the problem. i don't think this is going to be, wow, i have the --
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two you will. i think the budget the -- roof is going to be off the budget, especially if it is for control of the senate. so, i think it's going to be both and all. i agree that the situation of commercials has its limit, especially if they are negative commercials. but herschel walker puts governor kemp on tv -- and that can be the whole thing. >> i like the idea of seeing him want, to be i like the idea of governor kemp's field organizers being put on the payroll because the dance point these are the most effective people in georgia and quite obviously just came off. >> it just came off. >> it just came off, they have fresh relationships, tv, whatever, you take people working these neighborhoods, both parties, those could be the secret weapon. >> do you get independent voters as well? >> some widely conservative media analysts seem to be turning on trump, after republicans failed to -- we will look at that next.
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mix in the meantime. >> i would just say, look, it is not like he lost one race, or two races, or three, he lost all three. this was his party. it was his show. >> he has proven to have more lives than the cat though, he lost the white house, the senate before, the insurrection took place, so i'm not sure we can discount him yet, but this is -- >> you are wrong on that front. i mean, my -- one of the things that has happened to donald trump, when he ran in 2016, he was articulating other peoples grievances, increasingly he's articulating his own grievances, and he is going to be really aggrieved by some of the things that we have seen in the last 24 hours. particularly on the cover of the new york post, on the editorial page of the wall street journal, what does that provoke him to do, how does he lash out? >> he runs for president. >> as a center into his
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two-hour presentations -- >> i think we saw some evidence this year that people did not really respond to his airing of grievances from the past. they did respond to republican candidates who ran on the future, so if i were in this -- if he shows up in georgia to relitigate the 2020 election, the republican media, this is in no way shape or form helpful. so that will be his instinct, to your point. >> and it is going to hurt because -- >> i don't know how this affects donald trump to answer your question, david, because nothing bothers him more than getting criticize, and he lashes out. and so, if he sticks to his plan, to announce next tuesday, it is going to be grievances part 500. if you look at that wall street journal editorial, it said that since 2016, he has a perfect record of electoral defeat. >> yeah he, doesn't get the most votes. >> he doesn't.
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it is going to drive him crazy. the reporting of cnn is that he is lashing out at his age, he is in a terrible mood, he is blaming everyone but himself. >> blaming even millennia for -- >> herschel walker, mitch mcconnell majority leader, the guy he -- >> he will see it that way. here is one of his fatal flaws, and he still despite hitting the fake news media, pathologically craves approval from the mainstream media. one of iran desantis's rising stars of the gop, is that i don't think he cares at all what the mainstream media says about him. that is going to be a very interesting position to watch. >> i think that is so spot on, and i think the republican base, the next evolution of the republican parties evolution with the -- the media has almost replaced the democrats as chief enemy, and while trump craves the approval of the enemy, the
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santas has decided to write it off. and, say engagement is not even worth it. i do think there is an element of republican base that likes that about desantis more than a like about trump's craving of the attention. >> interesting, desantis doesn't even talk to mainstream media most of the time, there are now enough other channels, right-wing channels or just stand up and walk away. it is a different model. when trump came along with a different model, in 2016, up until then the way he did it is based on the old television model. what trump understood was that social media and reality tv were different, so you could do, stuff you could be outrageous on social media and tv and be rewarded for that, but i think it is now changing, -- >> our election coverage continues, next is cnn for -- results. we will be right back.
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>> hello, and welcome to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. it's just past midnight here in atlanta georgia, and 10 pm in phoenix arizona. the votes are still being counted for tuesday's midterm elections. i'm john vause, counties still underway in a number of close races both

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