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good morning, everybody. what a week. >> i prefer to be woken up with loud shouting. >> he's trying to be gentle. >> that's the only way to wake kai k kaitlan up. good morning, it's friday, november 11th. we still don't know who's in control of congress, votes are still being counted in nevada, arizona this morning where two critical senate races are undecided. along with the suspension comes the expense. we're following the money to figure out how much cash was spent on these races and which party spent more. we have new cnn reporting on donald trump's expected announcement that he is running again. some trump family members are signaling they don't want to be involved if that's the case. and every parent listen up, a deadly mix, half of the united states is experiencing high or very high respiratory illness
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activity, that includes rsv, flu, covid. and dr. sanjay gupta is going to join us on that this hour. it's still election day and then some. john berman is here to break down the key races that are still undecided, i'm having deja vu standing at this wall. >> i apologize. kaitlan walks over and i said don't bother me i'm doing math. it's hard. >> it's looking better for democrats in the senate right now. >> it might be. we are watching, of course, nevada and arizona. if either party manages to win both of these states then we don't need to wait until the runoff in georgia to figure out who wins control of congress. let's see where we are in nevada. so now, adam laxalt, the republican, leads the incumbent democrat, catherine cortez masto, but just by 9,000 votes. let me see if i can tell you where this was yesterday when we were talking most of the day.
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most of the day yesterday, laxalt was ahead by 15,000 maybe more. now the lead has shrunk to about 9000. why? there were more votes counted in washoe county yesterday, about 18000. and catherine cortez masto netted about 60% of this at. and 12,000 votes counted in clark last night, catherine cortez masto won 61% of that. i give you these percentages because the math here is interesting. let's go to blank black board. we think there are roughly, let me get this out, we think there are roughly 95,000 votes left to count -- >> in the whole state? >> in the whole state of nevada. 95 95,000 votes. if she can win 60% of that, which she was yesterday in washoe and clark county, she would net 19,000 votes.
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which even with my math skills i know -- >> would change that. >> is more than the 9,000 votes. i don't know this will happen. i want to give you directionally what could happen if the margins stay the same. we know there's 50,000 votes left in clark county. we don't know if she'll be able to maintain that type of margin there. in arizona, a different story. mark kelly, the democrat has expanded his lead as more vote counting has been recorded typically in maricopa county, especially maricopa county. he had been at 85,000 yesterday now at 115,000. about 540,000 votes left to count. that's a lot. a lot of runway. if that vote skews republican and blake masters gets 60% of that, he could get close to overtaking mark kelly. but there are about three counties almost 100% in, they're
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all republican counties, just west of phoenix you can see 95%, may be more, mark kelly is outperforming joe biden. what joe biden did there by 7.5 points. >> and obviously biden won arizona? >> barely but he won it. graham county, mark kelly is outperforming joe biden by 7 points here. and west greenly, it's tiny but he's outperforming what joe biden did there right now by 17 points. so yes -- >> remarkable. >> -- we have to wait for all this to come in there is enough room for blake masters if he does well in the rest of the vote to overtake mark kelly. but in the places we've seen almost everything mark kelly is doing what he needs to do to win. >> seems like that's somewhere democrats are waking up good news. how many votes left in nevada? >> 95,000. >> how long is that going to
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take? my dad called me after the show said why is this taking too long. i said it's normal, happened two years ago. >> in nevada, the law says that any ballot postmarked by election day can be received until actually tomorrow and they will be counted. so they're just waiting for all those to come in as they continue to process. arizona it just takes some time. they get the votes in, match the signatures with the things on file. they were slow two years ago, they're slow this time. but arizona, no one had a problem with arizona doing this until about two years ago when people call results into question. this is how arizona has done it for some time. >> it's normal. >> it could take another week in arizona. >> we'll order you breakfast. what do you want? >> appreciate it. >> berman is good at math and magic berman at the wall. >> i have to prepare the math, i
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can't read my handwriting. a lot of challenges here. >> do you want some cheese to go with that whine? >> come on. math was not part of the job when we signed up for journalism. >> be nice to berman we need him at the wall. >> thank you. let's talk about georgia with the runoff campaign between raphael warnock and herschel walker under way, so much money is pouring into this state. in the past 24 hours, both parties, outside groups, announced investments in this race that could determine the balance of power in the senate. staggering amounts of money were spent in other battleground states as well. some republicans are questioning whether it was enough. let's go to rahel solman. when you have states with tight margins there's money morning quarterbacking if we just poured more money into the states. >> a lot of money to follow. let's start with five senate
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races, both parties, campaigns and outside groups combined to spend over $1 billion. let that sink in. at the top of the list, my home state of pennsylvania, $264 million. democrat john fetterman here defeating republican mehmet oz. republicans outspending democrats by $22 million in pennsylvania. north to new hampshire where democrat maggie hassan defeated don bolduc republicans outspending here. and then to georgia, where republicans spent about 22 million more here. >> can you talk about the races and what we know. >> let's start with arizona, mark kelly, still maintaining his edge over blake masters there the republican candidate. democrats outspent republicans by $46 million.
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in nevada, where adam laxalt is leading catherine cortez masto, democrats outspend republicans here by $17 million. let's look at the spending advantage. you can see the breakdown of the states i mentioned plus ohio. democrats outspending in states like arizona, nevada, new hampshire, republicans outspending in states like ohio and pennsylvania. for folks at home who perhaps have ad campaign fatigue. this is why it was a lot of money, ads and our friends in georgia they have a few more weeks of it. >> a few more weeks and a lot of ads to come. there is new reporting this morning that not everyone in the trump family is on board with a potential 2024 run. it comes as the family will be gathering this weekend at mar-a-lago for tiffany trump's wedding. kate bennett joins us now with
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her new reporting. kate, what's up? what family members? >> you know the two that we saw the most during donald trump's first run in the white house, ivanka trump and jared kushner her husband have no intention of returning should there be a second campaign of donald trump for the white house. i spoke to a number of people who said they have very little interest in anything to do with washington or the white house in this stage of their lives. this was a couple involved in everything in the white house from middle east policy to covid-19 response, jared was the gate keeper for donald trump. ivanka was his most trusted adviser. this is going to be a shift for donald trump if he does run again to have his own family members not on board. the family member on board, of course, is donald trump jr. who if anything expanded his political footprint in the years since donald trump has left the white house. his girlfriend also is involved. the brother, eric trump will be
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more like don junior, i'm told don junior will campaign for his dad, be out there. but we didn't see ivanka trump even in the midterms. this is not something that she wants to do anymore. i think at this point the family is divided in that sense over donald trump's future while he remains obsessed with getting back in the white house and, you know, thinking this was not a fair election the last time. his children feel opposite. >> kate bennett, thank you very much. new numbers this morning show an alarming rise in respiratory illnesses across the nation. >> it is pure chaos inside twitter right now. but elon musk's new company is not the only tech giant suffering. what is going on with social media? we'll talk about that next. >> a lot of people losing their job. >> so scary. >> i don't want to lose my job. . (cecily) well you need a better network and verizon's new welcome unlimited plan for just $30 a line. (julian) verizon for $30? (cecily) yeah, it's their best unlimited price ever.
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on twitter, elon musk is laying people off, his key employees are quitting and in his first mail to remaining employees, he announced a ban on working remotely. he told them to plan to be at the office hours a week 40 hours immediately. one of the twitter executives who quit is the chief security office. she said it was a hard decision to leave the company but did not say why. the departure comes as chaos is erupting inside the company since elon musk took over. it's hard to summarize what has consumed twitter in the last several days alone. i'm going to try of course. musk fired half of twitter's employees, some by mistake, many sued, some asked to come back. he cracked down on people who suspended him. he said people need to pay for
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the blue check mark and now in his first mass call with employees he declared an end to remote work. the quicker he said he could not rule out bankruptcy. one of the recently laid off employees said it feels like the beginning of the end. >> you have this with massive layoffs we're hearing about at meta, that's raising a bunch of questions. are we witnessing the fall of american social media? you know who can answer that, cnn's media analyst sarah fisher. good morning to you. when you were here the other day and talked these changes as you were walking off the set i said what is happening to social media? are people not interested anymore? i can't remember the last time i was on facebook and i don't go on twitter that much, blah, blah, blah, and you said it's possibly the downfall of social media. what? >> i think gen z is demanding a new experience from the ones you
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and i grew up with, in the early days of social media, 20 years ago, which grew on the rise of the smart phone it was about connecting you with your closest friends in a public way, publically posting to facebook walls, my space boards. what's different now is gen z is so much more conscious of privacy and authenticity. they're looking for an experience that doesn't necessarily spill out their personal relationships publically that brings them in privately. that's why you're seeing a huge rise in encrypted messaging apps and seeing a huge rise in apps like tiktok, that unite people not based on close friends but unites people based off of shared interest. >> it's sort of show off apps, i find a lot of these are here's what i'm doing and i have to get the picture perfectly so everyone can think my life is perfect, great vacations, what have you?
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we're moving away from being pretty and cutie and flexing on social media? >> i think gen z wants people to be more authentic. there are apps like tic tktok a talent. people showing you how to do makeup, dancers, comedians. there's a market for people who want to show off but it's a genuine talent. what's no longer cool showing off your cool vacation or the cool things you did with your friends. they want to show case that to only their really close friends. that's why apps like be real, ph users can take one photo a day. >> my cooler 26-year-old producer came in my office yesterday and said let's take a picture for be real. i said this isn't real, i have too much tv makeup on. but she was introducing me to the new platform.
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what i think is changed also is insiders coming out and speaking out. it happened with big tobacco and now social media. twitter, remember the whistle-blower recently. and remember a whistle-blower that testified before congress about facebook, here's what she said about the platform. >> i saw facebook encounter conflicts between profits and safety. facebook resolved these conflicts in favor of its own profits. the result has been more division, more harm, more lies, more threats and more combat. in some cases, this dangerous online talk has led to actual violence that harms and even kills people. >> mark zuckerberg said in response, want to put it out there, that misrepresents our work and motives. but is it an inflection point when people on the inside come out and say here's what's been happening. >> yes. i think the reason they're
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coming out and saying that is because these social media apps grew based on targeted advertising. which meant that you, the user of these free apps was the product. your data was used to target ads so they could make more money. i think what people are saying is that model is not good for privacy and also misinformation and democracy. right now there's a push to get more data anonmized. meaning they're not tracking us individually. they're tracking as cohorts based on our interests. i think that's the future of social media looks like. so they're going to have more whistle-blowers and people speak out. >> one of the things that elon musk has when it comes to twitter that i think is a great idea is encrypted dms. talked about getting rid of the third party apps. a lot of reporters use that to
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communicate with sources. the other thing you said during the break that interested me is the idea of these megawatt personalities coming out of silicone valley and how the appetite is changing for them. we were obsessed with them recently, the royal we, but it seems to be changing. >> on encrypted apps, that's the future. i think more people are nervous about their communications. if you're not encrypted end to end, you're going to see users leave your world. that's why elon musk wants to go this way, i think. and he's talking about payments and for payments to the app you have to be encrypted. to your point i think we as a society have held up these silicone valley entrepreneurs almost like gods, created these companies some of them the fastest growing in the world but we're seeing now they're just humans, regular, every day people and we need to hold them to the same levers we're holding other business leaders and world leaders.
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which means skrupt scrutiny. we noted yesterday president biden said we should be looking at elon musk's foreign relationships. i think the tide has turned where we no longer look at these silicone valley slleaders as go and see them as people that need to be reckoned with. >> to the point you were making just before with poppy. i think young people are sick of the trolling and the vitriol and going on, you're fat, you're ugly, i can't stand what you think politically. i hope that they are over it because it's so toxic and so disgusting. so if a couple of social media sites fall because people aren't interested in that or have to change their business model i say amen. >> i hear it. i worry what it means for my kids if it doesn't change. but i worry about the people employed at the company. >> if you do it directly, if
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you, you know, attract the people, more people by being more positive or doing what young people want you to do, i don't think they'll lose their jobs. they may gain some jobs. >> trust has been completely lost here. you're completely right. and i think the only way that these apps are going to survive is if they rebrand themselves. that's why tiktok says it's an entertainment platform, snap says it's a camera company. and facebook is now meta because they know if they don't rebrand themselves they've lost it. >> you're a treasure. >> thank you. a handful of undecided races this morning. john avalon is here with a breakdown of history. >> you know who else is here, harry inton, data. what's next in georgia's runoff election. >> i think he lives over there. >> he thinking he gonna win.
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he was dying to go to overtime because if you watch what he was saying we got to go in a runoff. i was saying i want to beat you outright. if he want to go in a runoff with me, you bring it homes, i was built for this. >> you have to admit that i did warn y'all that we might be spending thanksgiving together. and here we are. so i'm going to need you to stick with me for four more weeks. >> i think it's fair to say that
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is a hotly contested senate race in georgia. it's headed for a rauunoff righ now, raphael warnock and herschel walker both failed to win the outright majority needed to take home a victory on tuesday. now there's a chance georgia voters could end up deciding which party wins a majority in the u.s. senate, again. cnn senior data reporter harry inton is at the battleground desk for us this morning. what's going to go down on december 6th? >> i feel like it's deja vu all over again. georgia runoff rules are simple. obviously we had the election on -- just on tuesday. then we're going to have a runoff between the top two vote getters, raphael warnock and herschel walker because neither reached a majority 50 plus one in the election. the new election is on december 6th. runoffs have been a system in georgia developed in the 1960s.
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developed by white lawmakers who wanted to assure that the white majority population would be ultimately able to decide who their elected officials would be because they're afraid black voters could elect their candidates in plurality in the 60s because of perhaps a divided field in the white candidates. not the case today. it is a relic. >> not the first time georgia's senate race was divided in a runoff. >> it's not. if you go back since 1992 we've had a bunch of runoffs statewide. republicans have tended to do better on the whole. done better in the runoff seven out of ten times. of course, the 2021 runoffs were an exception to that where both the democrats did better. why was 2021 different than the other years? i think the turnout gives you an indication. look at this. this is senate runoff turn out as a percentage of the general election turnout.
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normally runoff turn out trails by a significant margin. but in the 2021 it basically matched only slightly lower. why was it slightly lower? it was because of black turnouts. blacks have turned out in georgia in lower numbers in the runoffs than general election. but 2021 was the opposite. the vote of black counties was large compared to white counties. obviously we don't know if that's going to happen this time but obviously that's something that democrats would love to see. i think there's a big question ultimately, though. what will georgia be determining? will it determine control of the united states senate or will it be the case that arizona and nevada go to one party and that wouldn't occur. say georgia is not determining control of the united states senating, i think that's welcome
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news for democrats. because if we ask if it was important, if you didn't care who controlled the united states senate, raphael warnock had a large advantage over herschel walker which i think gets back to the idea of candidate quality. a lot of republicans voted for herschel walker even if they didn't like him because they wanted to assure republicans got control. if control isn't on the line maybe some of the republicans sit out, don. >> i can't absorb all of that this morning. >> i'm sorry, don. >> it would save a lot of fund-raising money if the georgia race doesn't determine who controls the senate. very expensive. >> save me a lot of sleep, too. >> she's right. the money. the sleep we don't care about. >> you don't care about me? >> harry, see you. thank you. appreciate it. to colorado's third district, lauren boebert is only 1,100 votes ahead this morning of her democratic challenger adam frisch. it was never expected to be this
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close. 24 hours ago the race was separated by 64 votes. in nevada, adam laxalt is ahead by just over 8,000 votes. those races are close but how do they compare to the closest races in u.s. history. here for a trip down memory lane, senior political analyst john avalon. >> john avalon. >> is that what you call him? >> yes. i call him john avalon. >> i'll never call you that. talk to us about nail baiters. >> decisions are made in democracies by people who show up. and sometimes the races can be close. as close as this race is right now lauren boebert and nevada, look at the closest races in history. start with 537. that's the infamous number that george w. bush won florida by in 2000. that was the presidency, folks. i note ralph nader won 98,000
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votes in florida that year. it's a reminder every vote counts. but how about six. six? >> whoa. >> yeah. that was the margin in 2020 for iowa's second district house seat won by miller meeks. six votes, folks. the closest race in u.s. senate history, two votes, 1974 new hampshire. this was a revelation. this took months, almost a year to litigate through its final iterations. >> could you imagine if that happened now? it was stolen. >> crazy town. >> yeah. >> you know what you don't get closer than? >> what? >> zero. >> what? >> zero. 2017, virginia house of delegates tied. >> i remember this. >> not only did it tie, the parties were evenly split so control of the delegate house came from pulling a name out of
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a bowl. cnn carried it live. >> wait, i remember that. >> i remember that, because we aired it. >> it was a coin toss basically. >> it's funny, ait's the same with new hampshire and iowa and the caucuses, coin flips. >> tuesday night kevin mccarthy came out and said when you wake up in the morning there's going to be a republican house majority. it's now been three days we still don't know who is going to have the majority of the house. so i think looking at the numbers, the question that people have, like my dad who's watching this closely, what's the takeaway here? what does this mean that we could see? >> the big takeaway for democracy is the same. every vote counts. if you get cynical and say your vote doesn't matter, you could have made a difference in any of these races. and a lot of local races we don't pay attention to but those can have enormous impacts as well. democracy means decisions are made by those who show up.
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>> can you imagine if you were the one person who said i'm not going to go vote right now -- >> because i have to rearrange my sock drawer. >> whatever your reason. >> self-government is worth your time. >> also the power of state houses, state legislatures. >> we need dad to come on the program. >> oh, no. he would love that, but no. >> you're welcome any day. >> can we please make that happen? >> and obviously, your mom. obviously. >> john avalon -- >> great to see you. >> -- thank you. a hard turn here but we have to tell you about what is a very, very upsetting discovery. this is at the construction site of the obama presidential center in chicago. what police are telling us this morning. and a judge just delivered a blow to president biden's student loan forgiveness plan. what it means for the more than 26 million people who have already applied for loan relief.
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this morning construction at the obama presidential center in chicago is suspended after a noose was discovered at the site on thursday. straight to adrienne broaddus live for us in jackson park, illinois. good morning to you. have the police found any leads to this? >> reporter: don, good morning to you. at this hour, investigators don't have any leads. if they do, they haven't shared them with us. at least not yet. and this morning construction has come to a halt here in hyde park. construction, temporarily halted on the obama presidential center in chicago after a noose was found at the site. the governor tweeting, quote,
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the noose is more than a symbol of racism. it's a reminder of the terror inflicted on black americans for centuries. the company working on the site said it reported the incident to police and has quote zero tolerance for any form of violence or hate on our work site. the chicago police department is inves investigating the matter. the obama administration writing this shameless act of cowardice and hate is attempted to divide us. >> my experience in chicago made me believe in the power of place and people. >> reporter: this is not the first project since 2015. it was slowed by lawsuits and complaints in the community. environmentalists brought a lawsuit to stop it using jackson park. a federal judge dismissed the
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suit in 2019. >> the substantial investment in the south side will help make the neighborhood where we call home a destination for the entire world. >> reporter: the project will be run by the obama foundation, breaking with all other presidential libraries, which are run by the national archives. the obama presidential center finally broke ground last september. >> we are about to break ground on what will be the world's premier institution for developing civic leaders across fields, across disciplines, and yes, across the political spectrum. >> reporter: and there is a reward on the table to the tune of $100,000, that is for information leading to the arrest of the person or group responsible for placing that alleged noose on this construction site. still unclear where it was exactly found, don. and it's also unclear when
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construction will resume here. don? >> thank you so much this morning. new this morning we are learning russian forces have withdrawn from ukraine's kherson region west of the dnipro river. as respiratory illness cases rise across the nation. there's chilling video that shows the rescue of a baby suffering from the virus. we have sanjay gupta here. stay with us. time to switch.r been a better get our best offers of the year on business internet. help your business stay ahead with the reliable connection your business deserves. book your appointment today. and switch to the network america relies on. verizon.
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>> let me see. >> hold her up -- >> i can -- she's breathing now. she is breathing. >> hold her over and see if there's an obstruction in her math. >> she is doing well this morning. public health experts describe this rsv season as unprecedented. let's bring in dr. sanjay gupta who joins us now. it is so terrifying. it is so terrifying. why is it happening so much? >> that video is incredible to watch. i mean, it does sort of remind you how serious this can be. but rare, thankfully, to get to that point. there are clues that parents can have. it's sometimes difficult to assess when a young child, baby, is starting to have difficulty breathing so by the time sometimes parents recognize it, it can be pretty far along. so there are clues when you're looking at your baby's breathing patterns overall.
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you're going to know your baby's breathing pattern the best but if there's differences, different noises they're making with breathing. if they're starting to use different muscles, that may be a sign they're struggling to breathe. if obviously you're seeing their skin turn purple that's a sign they're not getting enough oxygen overall to their body. let me show you videos what this looks like in real life. some of this is sometimes hard to watch but the point is it can be subtle. if you're seeing a baby breathe with their abdominal muscles, abdominal breathing that's a sign they could be struggling to breathe. also when you see the whole body moving, for example, head bopping with breathing. that can also be a sign that the baby is actually -- baby looks comfortable, right, but that can be a sign the baby is having trouble breathing because they're starting to activate all these other muscles simply to breathe in and out. these are rare situations. i don't want to frighten people even with rsv most children are
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going to be just fine but you have to look for the early clues. >> it is painful to watch that. here's a question. because i think, sanjay, doctors are saying the season the is going to be unprecedented. so to prevent that, what can parents do? what are doctors seeing here that says that and what can parents do? >> i think the way to sort of look at the -- you have three viruses, respiratory viruses that are all colliding at the same time, you have flu, you have rsv and you still have covid which is out there. so that's part of the issue. when you look at flu specifically, i think what we're seeing is we're seeing an earlier season with very big numbers. about half the country, 22 states they're seeing high levels of flu now. primarily concentrated in that maroon area in the southeast. but as we've been talking about with covid the last couple of years you'll likely see a wave of this moving from one part of the country to another part of the country. if we look at the numbers
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specifically. again we typically see these numbers later in the year, the week of october 22nd, you saw the -- you know, close to 900,000 cases of flu. a lot. but then the next week almost doubled it and the week after that, this most recent week it went up by more than a million cases. so these are very large numbers early in the season. that's one of the big concerns. also if you start to look around the world, for example, you look at australia, and we always look at australia because the southern hemisphere is going to have their flu season earlier. now what we did is compare years, it may be hard to see on the screen there. but the red graph is what's happened the most recent flu season. it's a higher peak and it's earlier as compared to years past. that's a good signature of what's likely to be happening here. earlier and an overall larger peak. by the end of the season, the
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overall number of cases may be the same as years past but they're clustering a lot up front. >> one thing that was helpful for me when our son was sick, we immediately took him to the doctor and they can test for rsv. i didn't know that. that's helpful for parents to know you can know what's going on and maybe take them earlier this season because there's so much risk. >> thank you, sanjay. >> you got it. election officials in arizona maricopa county are saying this morning about 350,000 ballots still need to be counted there. so when will we get the actual numbers? we'll take you live to phoenix. ahead, you don't want to miss this. you know the person on the left, but the guy on the right, this is my interview with whoopi goldberg ahead of her new movie about the life and legacy of emmett till. >> people think they know the
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