jalapeno poppers, whichever comes first. hold on, what's that? my buzzer. that's my buzzer going off. do we have house or senate results? oh, better, my jalapeno poppers. this is going to change the balance of power in my tum tum. >> i think that is my favorite thing -- >> that just made me hungry. >> -- that he's ever done. i think we found a new way for wolf to do the key race alert. >> where's our buzzer? >> that's such a good idea. >> it's this, right. >> that made my day. good morning, everyone. friday, november 11th and a lot to get to this morning. right? >> a lot. control of congress, as you just heard, still in question.

the votes keep trickling in but some races tightening, others widening. in the house republicans are inching towards the 218 seats they need to take control. although democrats still have a very narrow long shot path to victory there. in the senate three races remain undecided. if either party can lay claim to both arizona and nevada, the chamber belongs to them. >> but arizona still too close to call when it comes to the senate race. democrats waking up more hopeful after the votes counted helped mark kelly widen his lead over the republican candidate, blake masters. the arizona governor's race still too close to call. the democrat katie hobbs has extended her narrow lead over kari lake who is an election denier after the latest update of votes there. more than half a million votes still need to be counted in arizona. in maricopa county, an estimate

of 350,000 ballots to tabulate. let's go to don and john at the magic wall as we wait on what the numbers look like and how long it's going to do to do the counting. >> i'm berman territory. good morning, where do things stand? >> poppy said the democrats have a narrow path, a very narrow path to maybe keeping the house. right now republicans hold 211 seats democrats 190 seats. there are 26 districts that have yet to be called. republicans need to win seven of them to take control of the house. democrats would need to win 20 of them to keep control of the house. where are these 26 races right now? republicans lead in 11, they need seven. democrats lead in 15, they need 20. could democrats get those five seats? could they turn five of these red seats blue?

maybe. it's a tall order but maybe. let's look at them one by one here. democrats need five seats. in maryland, maryland's six congressional district over here. right now the republican is actually leading but this is a race that looks pretty good for the democrats. there is still vote to be counted in montgomery county, which is heavily democratic. so for argument's sake, i want to show you how democrats could do this. for argument's sake say they do pick up that seat. that's one. let's keep going. this is colorado, everyone is talking about the third congressional district lauren boebert. she's pulled ahead by 1,000 plus votes. there are more votes out there. say adam frisch was able to turn this around. give this to democrats in the hypothetical count. if they turn that, that's two seats. where it gets really interesting is california. a lot of races in california and a lot of vote left to count

there. let's dig in a little bit. there's a seat here. just 45% reported. there's a 10,000 vote margin. so maybe that's one in california. this race is really close. this is only separated by 260 votes, 44% in. that would be two races in california. and let's go down here, i'll show you a race that's pretty close in the south. you can see ken calvert he's ahead by about 1,200 votes, 43% in. so that would be three, three in california. let's write that down, i said they needed five. and that would be one, two, three, four, five. that would get democrats there. it's a very narrow path. they're yelling at me in the control room to talk about the senate. very quickly nevada, adam laxalt, the republican lead shrunk overnight as they counted more votes. 95,000 votes left to count. if the the percentages stay the same for catherine cortez masto within she has a chance to

overtake adam laxalt. and in arizona, mark kelly leads by 115,000 votes blake masters trailing, about 540,000 votes left. we don't know. some 340,000 votes left to count in maricopa county, including votes handed in on election day which skew republican but mark kelly has a sizable lead there. >> i don't know how you keep track of this. can you imagine the scenario you had before, if the senate played out that way, that would be crazy. >> with the house. >> yeah. >> i wanted to show how democrats could do it. it's not the most likely scenario but there is a path. >> let's get to josh campbell in phoenix outside the maricopa county elections center. are we hearing anything from the candidates while they're in limbo here? >> reporter: they are waiting, don. obviously we're getting a lot of optimism from all four of the key major candidates here as berman was just discussing in

this race between senator mark kelly and venture capitalist blake masters. as well as the gubernatorial race between democrat catherine cortez masto and republican kari lake. it's comments from kari lake that is drawing the ire of election officials here in maricopa county. she's alleging that officials are slow rolling or slow walking the election count for political reasons. officials coming out and blasting her. including the republican who runs elections here. watch. >> quite frankly, it is offensive for kari lake to say that these people behind me are slow rolling this when they're working 14 to 18 hours. so i really hope this is the end of that now. we can be patient and respect the results when they come out. >> it's ironic to us that people who are calling, you know, into question the integrity of this election and want fasters results don't understand it's

those processes that add the integrity to our election process. >> and let me quickly explain to you what is unique here. officials say of the 340,000 votes in maricopa county, 290,000 were voters who brought their mail-in ballot to the polls on election day. if you vote here on election day those are tabulated quickly. but if you have to bring a mail-in ballot there's a whole other process. they have to verify the signature, the voter. this is why our friend john king continues to say patience, patience, because the process is playing itself out. that despite conspiracy theories we're hearing. the conspiracy theories are very real and have real consequences. that's why the building behind me, the election center, is surrounded by sheriff's deputies. election workers doing their civic duty now have armed guards

outside. >> thank you both. this morning a really significant development when it comes to canceling student loan debt. president biden's plan to cancel billions of dollars in student dead death is facing a new legal obstacle after it was struck down yesterday by a trump appointed federal judge in texas declaring it illegal. that was judge mark pitman who said in this country we're not ruled by a powerful executive with a pen and a phone, instead by a constitution that requires three distinct and independent branchs of government. basically saying the white house overreached here. the justice department is going to appeal the decision. the program was already on hold because of a separate eighth circuit stay. the white house said they're going to hold the information of all 26 million of you who applied for that debt relief who see if the case is reversed. this is a case that could end up before the supreme court. how is this for a first

message from your new boss. a staff wide email, elon musk suggesting the company could go into bankruptcy as executives are resigning, advertisers are fleeing and trolls are running rampant on the platform since he took over. we have rahel here with us for more. ful on-- i feel it's the last 1 hours that are the most chaos. >> a recently laidoff employee told cnn, it was like the titanic with everyone looking for lifeboats. the head of trust and safety, chief information security officer, chief privacy officer, just some of the recent resignations. it comes after a legal team warned in an internal couple

message that musk's priority is recouping the losses he's incurring as a result of failing to get out of buying twitter. so it makes it difficult to lure skeptical advertisers. also not helping an explosion of trolls and others creating imposter accounts after musk blew up verification on twitter. you can see someone being a fake donald trump account. and twitter also gave a check mark to jesus christ. things are getting confusion -- he has risen. >> how do you authenticate that. >> that was a moment -- >> hold on a second. >> being fair, i stole that from donie o'sullivan's twitter. >> how do you verify that. >> it was the comedic timing. don't sell yourself short. >> but it is chaotic as kaitlan pointed out. his first all staff email,

imagine this the first email from your boss, he announced a mandatory return to office and warned the economic picture ahead is dire and without subscription revenue there's a chance twitter will not survive the upcoming downturn. but through it all he's continued to tweet and hard to say if things will stabilize, just a day ago he tweeted please note twitter will do lots of dumb things, he said it, dumb things in coming months. we'll keep what works and change what doesn't. >> i signed up for his tweet alerts so now i know when elon musk tweets because i'm interested in knowing what he says about it. >> you miss a little you miss a lot with elon. >> i'm going to stay out of this. >> before you go, inflation. >> inflation. >> yeah. it's not a story for me if i'm not talking about inflation. yesterday it was about 8:30 we were talking about the inflation report and the markets popped. that continued throughout the day.

it was one of the best days for the markets in years. the dow closed up about 1200 points. the dow finished up almost 4%. the s&p 5%. to put it in context that would be a great month. we saw it in a day because of that inflation report that we talked about as it crossed coming in lighter than expected. the lightest number in a year, 7.7% on an annual basis. investors are hoping this mean the fed will ease up on rate hikes. >> are you a checker, 401(k)? >> never. >> not every day. >> every day? >> not every day. every day i can depend on tim's mood. yesterday he goes did you check your 401(k) today? no. >> that's why tim is so great. >> he said you probably made good money. >> he should not put himself

through that stress every day. >> tim is not even close to retirement. >> neither are you. >> yeah. >> i shouldn't be checking it. that wasn't even subtle shade. >> thank you. keep us updated on what's happening with twitter. we have to go to florida. to get there we have to go through atlanta. this morning nicole has weaken into a tropical depression after slamming into florida's east coast as a category 1 hurricane. look at the destruction, homes ripped apart, downed power lines and outages crippling parts of the state. at least four deaths are blamed on nicole. we'll get to atlanta for our meteorologist chad myers from the weather center at headquarters. chad, good morning to you. what is going on with this thing? >> this was the result of hurricane ian, to be really honest. i know it's nicole damage but ian damaged the dunes, the sand,

the beaches. and so the waves and the surge from nicole were able to hit those buildings. structural damage up and down the east coast is tremendous. hard to look at some of this damage, it's so bad. some of the aerials we're seeing now, coming in, house after house after house down to the beach. the rain is still raining up in ohio down to virginia and as far south as florida. but the center of the cell is still a tropical depression at may macon, georgia. the wind that could still come in, 30 or 40 miles per hour. had some flooding in charleston yesterday with surge there because the wind was pushing the water into the harbor. and seeing winds of 30 to 40. things have calmed down. by later tonight maybe a slow commute, boston, new york, philadelphia, that's where the rain is going. by tomorrow, cold front pushes by, and don, all the weather

that you liked so much, in the 60s and 70s goes away. temperatures are going to fall 20 degrees. >> i'm not going to say it because i know when we blame you for the weather we don't like it. so i won't say anything. thank you, chad myers. appreciate it. >> you're welcome. just in to cnn, another setback for vladimir putin who has been silent on the exit. russian troops withdrawing from the kherson region, the first major city to fall when russia invaded ukraine in late february. the exit is complete saying, quote, not a single piece of military or weaponry was left behind according to the russian defense ministry. an image on social media showing a ukrainian flag in the center of the city. so far no indication that ukrainian forces have returned to the city but watching it closely as are white house officials. russian naval vessels are

gathering for a possible test of a new nuclear powered torpedo that's according to a u.s. official who tells cnn the u.s. has reportedly observed vessels including the biggest submarine in the world moving. tim sciutto is with us. that sounds ominous. >> it is. a nuclear powered torpedo, really an underwater drone. it's huge as you can see here and has tremendous capability. it has a nuclear propulsion system that gives it limitless range. it's designed to sit off the coast of an adversary country, perhaps the u.s., a major city and if ordered launch conventional or nuclear strike on that city without warning. it was such a focus of the russian president that he announced this in his 2018 state of the union address. he had big mockups of it computer generated imagery of

how this would work in effect as a warning to the world. that is why the u.s. was watching these exercises in the arctic so closely to see if russia had made an advance so significantly that they were ready to test this thing. there's the submarine. and this is from that 2018 speech when putin introduced it. it's a real worry, particularly, poppy, with u.s. and western concern that russia, given its setbacks in ukraine, wants to show the world just what a military capability it has. >> jim, this is fascinating reporting. can you talk about your reporting that these vessels were observed leaving russia's testing area in the arctic without carrying out a test. what does that tell new. >> you talk about setbacks for putin in ukraine. the u.s. view is that these exercises, they took place in the arctic sea north of russia where russia has a number of naval bases.

the u.s. view is they may have run into technical problems. they carried this torpedo on the submarine out to the exercises, here's the submarine designed to carry it and preparing for the first real world test of this torpedo but then they left last week, returned to port without testing it. potential technical difficulties maybe they're not there and also it's the arctic, it's going to ice over. but they had the weapon in their arsenal, the u.s. watching to see if they're going to use it as a message to the world given their setbacks in ukraine. >> thank you, jim. >> thanks, partner. >> miss you. >> that was sweet. let's bring jim back for a second. >> we brought you back early in the morning. >> you stole her from me don and kaitlan. >> we miss you, when are you coming. >> she still misses you. >> i'll come find you. >> good reporting jim, thank

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all right. welcome back. is the trump era over? that's a big question. so many of you across the country are talking about it. it's not a question just being asked by democrats either. this is the new york post headline this morning. republicans it's time to retire 45 and put in a new start erto win the champion and the washington examiner with this, these midterm elections made it clear the voters want to move

past the chaos and dishonor of the former president. even mike pompeo taking to twitter writing conservatives are elected when we deliver not when we just rail on social media. votes are still being counted and the republican party could end up in control of both chambers of congress we'll see. but it's clear republicans fell well short of expectations for a so called red wave. the success of several maga candidates is raising questions. at least five candidates lost in key states causing people to say a fresh face of the gop is needed headed into 2024. >> no way to deny donald trump got fired tuesday night and the search committee has brought a few names to the top of the list and ron desantis is one of them. >> listen to what republican

congressman elect mike lawler of new york told us yesterday morning. >> i think more focus needs to be on the issues and the substance of those issues than personalities for sure. >> you want to see the party move forward from trump? >> yeah. i think moving in a different direction as we move forward is a good thing, not a bad thing. >> some of trump's biggest supporters and detractors are striking similar tones with regard to where the republican party should go from here. watch. >> there's a very high correlation between maga candidates and big losses. >> you know, the voters have spoken. and they have said that they want a different leader. and a true leader understands when they have become a liability. a true leader understands that it's time to step off the stage. >> i think he needs to put on pause, absolutely. he'll make that decision, his own decision. >> it is worth noting that gop support for former president

donald trump did buckle in the wake of the 2020 election and the capitol hill insurrection only for republicans like senator lindsey graham and house minority leader kevin mccarthy to work hard to get back in the former president's good graces in the months to follow. there's a lot of time before voters head back to the polls for 2024 elections. but it has thrown the party into unexpected chaos for the future. we go to a cnn fact check. a claim that trump is making about saving florida governor ron desantis' campaign in 2018 talking about sending in federal agents after that election was conducted. we have paula reed live in washington. i know there's a lot going on in between trump going after desantis when it comes to many points but what about the claim about what happened in 2018 and the role he played as president specifically? >> good morning. as we know former president trump he continues to attack

desantis in the wake of the gop's poor midterm performance and suggestions that the florida governor should be the one to lead the party headed into 2024. in a lengthy social media postlast night trump claimed that he leveraged federal lawsuit to stop desantis from losing his 2018 race for governor. trump wrote when votes were being stolen in broward county and ron was going down 10,000 votes a day, along with now senator rick scott i sent in the fbi and the u.s. attorneys and the ballot theft immediately ended just prior to running out of votes necessary to win. i stopped the election from being stolen. this is the latest iteration of a claim trump made many times before about elections being stolen even in the absence of any evidence. i want to provide context for the 2018 race. in november 2018 governor rick scott, the nominee for senate.

accused two of the state's largest counties of fraud. trump tweeted in p, don't worry florida i'm sending in better lawyers to expose the fraud. now scott called on the florida department of law enforcement to investigate. they did. and that 18-month investigation found no evidence of widespread fraud. as for trump's claim that he sent in federal law enforcement agents? we have reached out to the current justice department and fbi, as well as multiple officials at the trump justice department in 2018, but so far there's nothing we have seen to indicate that former president trump did attempt to leverage federal law enforcement to help republicans in 2018. kaitlan. >> paula, thanks for that fact check. as predictions of a red wave turned out to be overblown on tuesday night. our next guest said the pulse of the people was loud and clear if you were looking in the right places.

a digital journalist who directly engages with his audience on instagram and other platforms getting a firsthand look at the opinions of real voters. he's been talking to his news community and joins us now. i'm fascinating with this basically experiment -- this news experiment that you've conducted on instagram. you're a news consigliere you've been called. i read you said you wanted to take this straightforward approach with your followers and basically people want to see what's happening in the news. maybe see stuff that questions their own assumptions about things and you feel there was an audience for that. >> yeah. it's interesting i spent 20 years of my career in a control room in places like fox and cbs. i fell into this in covid where i found myself not in a "newsroom" and out there for the first time. so i was trying to find a way to take in all the information and i found being a news consumer really sucks and ultimately, there was so much going on and they're trying to get the basic

facts. they don't want to be told what they should know but basically how to think. not what to think but how to think. what they're looking for is less of the polls and punditry, just give me the issues and facts. >> tuesday night there had been so many from all across the media from democrats to republicans inside the house, thinking there was a big red wave that did not materialize. you heard directly from people you didn't think that was actually what they were thinking was going to happen. >> what i found interesting is we tend to focus on the top issue in the exit polls. economy, economy, abortion, et cetera. for many people it wasn't a game of checkers but chess, a complex equation. i care about abortion and crime. or i care about the economy and i care about multiple issues. so ultimately it wasn't as simple as the economy is the top issue. clearly republicans are going to be taking it everywhere. and ultimately also we try to brush things with broad strokes

nationally. when there was a lot of nuance locally. the way someone was voting in arizona was very different from ohio, very different from new york city. >> even though you're very young you have accomplished a lot. you were executive producer of the cbs evening news for two years to remind people how high you rose in traditional media. i wonder taking the step, using a different platform, hearing from people in a totally different way, how enlightening, eye opening is this all to you? >> so many ways. number one, i did not fundamentally understand the lack of trust americans have lost in the media. in fact, there was a "reuters" survey over the summer. 46 countries, population 3 billion between the countries and we were dead last in terms of trust -- >> the united states was? >> united states, dead last. three out of four americans don't trust the news and information we get. we can sit here as journalists and say part of it might have to

do with politicians calling us fake news, et cetera. but there's a fundamental issue right now in terms of distrust that people have out there. and that was the most eye opening thing. and the second thing as somebody who sat there at cbs running a show every day and deciding what the issues were, what the wakeup call was, there was no real dialogue happening with viewers. >> how can we do it better then? >> what i'm trying to do on instagram is genuinely engage every day, what are you interested in? what are you asking questions about? sometimes it doesn't occur to us who live within this politics world, hey, explain why the senate matters again. what do they do? >> what's a georgia runoff. >> what's a runoff, why do they have runoffs? wait, the supreme court, there's no way to check them? they're there for life? how is that? what's a filibuster? aaron burr came up with it when he was bored in the senate after he shot alexander hamilton.

there's a lot of whys and hows that people want a conversation about without being judged. >> there's the idea of media literacy. we can all do better when it comes to that. it's not the media's job to explain to people but it's really education. i learned about aaron burr, a runoff, whatever, that's things i was taught in school. while i think it's -- again, we have to make people more literate when it comes to the media you can't gloss over what you said about politicians saying fake news, because that undermines a trust in a very important institution and continues to do so. and also, what it did was, it helped to put -- it forced people into political corners and to watch media that became echo chambers. and then you have the algorithms on social media that also forces people into echo chambers. and those places are not

necessarily governed by facts. and reality. and so, it's incumbent on a lot of people, not just the media, to make people literate about what is actual good news and bad news. >> sure. there's a fair share to go around. the social media algorithms we learned from the facebook leaks last year they found out we stay on the platform based on how much outrage we see. outrage drives more consumption, the tech companies blame. politicians blame. but there's a fundamental loss in institutions, where it's the cdc, fbi, or the media. people demand more. they demand more from their bosses, their government and demanding more from us. >> can i show people what you're doing. i was touting this last night my friend melanie, she's obsessed with your instagram. >> hi, melanie. >> some of the things you asked. my dad called me yesterday after

the show -- i know i mentioned him three times today. >> he's coming on monday. >> he called me and said does trump and ron desantis not like each other? the question fascinated me because we live in this world, of course they don't. you said send me your thoughts on trump and desantis and got a mix of responses -- >> it was fascinating. we take for granted, we live and breathe this stuff, right. we live and breathe every one of these politicians and what they're doing on a day-to-day basis. most people have lives. they have kids, jobs, they're busy with things. it bears repeating some of the things that happen historically. they're coming in the middle of the movie, what happened first half? >> you're trying to catch them up to speed. >> yes. the israeli/palestinian conflict is another one, when do you want to start? what century, millennia.

>> your dad is an informed person, perhaps he's not watching cnn a lot. >> he is. >> he watches cnn but it's what you said. he's busy, gets up early in the morning, at work all day long, coming home, hanging out with his grand kids and whatnot. so he has these other things going on so he's not paying finite close attention to so many things. >> on the trump/desantis thing it's fascinating. instagram trends younger but there's a generation divide among republicans right now. i heard from a number of people who voted for trump twice, '16 and '20, they go now i'm done. i go why. for some of them it was the line at the rally this week. his ego has gotten the best of him. i go, have you been watching the past six years? they're like honestly part of the way the media covered him where everything he did was bad put me in a defensive crouch. so i felt the need to defend

him. what about your parents voting for trump? they're still with him because they feel loyal to him. it's an interesting nuance you guys just discussed it within the republican party about what to do with him. we need to look at gender and generational splits. >> good for you. it's not just important how we see ourselves but important hold a mirror up how the world sees the institution, the fourth estate. >> thank you for joining us. >> follow his instagram i'll tweet your handle so everyone can see it. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. up next dave chappelle's return to "saturday night live" is off to a rocky start. why the median was forced to deny reports that the writers were boycotting his appearance. those are pictures of arlington national cemetery. hours from now, the vice president will join the first lady in honor of those who

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okay. so comedian dave chappelle is set to host saturday night live this weekend but the appearance is not going over well with chappelle's past comments. jason carol is here and joins us with more. what's going on? >> a number of people still upset about his past comments. now comes word that some at snl are wondering if he's the right person who should have been chosen to host the show. anticipation building at 30 rock, home of nbc and "saturday night live" where comedian dave chappelle is set to host snl's post election day episode this weekend. >> this is dave. he tells jokes for a living. he's also about to host "saturday night live" for the third time. >> reporter: but this time questions about possible problems behind the scenes. chappelle's representatives pushing back on unconfirmed

reports that snl writers were staging a boycott related to the comedian's previous comments about the trans community telling cnn we have seen nothing to support media reports of a writers boycott, in fact, they delivered 40 sketches for his consideration and collaboration. chappelle has come under fire for comments about the transgender community in his standup routines, most recently in his netflix special the closer. >> this is a fact. every human being in this room, on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. that is a fact. >> reporter: a reddit user captured this instagram story from an snl writer who wrote i'm trans and nonbinary, transphobia is murder and it should be condemned. it's not clear if this was aimed at chappelle.

yim did not respond to requests for comment about him hosting. news was met with some backlash on social media. the show announced in september it was adding its first nonbinary cast member molly kearney. chappelle began his post election hosting for snl in 2016 following the election of donald trump. >> all my black friends who have money said the same thing when trump got elected. that's it, bro, i'm out, i'm leaving the country. are you coming with us? no, i'm good, i'm going to stay here and get this tax break and see how it works out. >> he continued in 2020 after biden won. >> i feel like it's a comedy show. >> reporter: now he's set for another go as both his critics and fans wait to hear what he will say next. and cnn did reach out to nbc about chappelle but a

spokesperson said they were not commenting. it is safe to say that a number of folks are probably going to tune in to see how chappelle is going to handle himself, especially during the opening monologue. back to you. >> jason, thank you very much. let's bring in mr. van jones. i want to bring you into the conversation. what a conversation it is. i want to play this because i think it relates, it's a conversation you had with dave chappelle on your show and then we'll talk. >> i think the rhetoric of his presidency is repugnant. i just don't like the way he talks. you know, there's certain -- we're living in a time where there's got to be a little more cultural sensitive. even a guy like me that's writing jokes i have to listen more than i ever had to listen because the gripes are coming fast and furious. i'm not dismissing them, it might sound like it on stage but i listen. >> he was talking about the former president but he talked

about cultural sensitive, because i listen. you heard what's supposedly happening on snl. what do you make? >> i know dave chappelle so i have to put that out there. i do know him. glad to have him on the show. i think he's speaking for a lot of people raising these issues and concerns, how are we going to deal with the transition to a different understanding of gender on a global level. and, you know, i think he falls in certain traps sometimes saying it's either black or it's trans and kind of has these false debates between black people and trans people. there are black people who are trans. but i do know him, and i know that he cares an awful lot. if you looked at the special he did, the end of the special he's talking about his personal relationship with a trans woman who killed herself. so i think that sometimes it gets so polarized and whatever, if you watch the special, that thing was less funny than usual -- >> his cultural commentary. >> cultural commentary more than

comedy. >> a black trans woman, invites her on stage. >> exactly. i think that people are going to tune in, people want to know how are you going to handle it? have you learned anything? are you more nuanced? i think this conversation we're having about different understanding of gender, it's been good to have someone like him to raise the issues. now what are we going to do with it? >> since you do know him, maybe you don't have to speak to personal conversations, but what is his sense of this given what don noted here, how he is trying to use it? does he have a sense of what he's learned from it, i guess? >> i haven't talked to him recently but i do know he's been able to use his platform to have tough conversations. he's obviously one of the best if not the best in the world right now what he's doing. i think the bigger question going on is, if you're my age,

you can go on wikipedia, i'm older than i look. i remember in the '90s, when transgender people were being beaten, being harassed, the lesbian, gay movement wasn't claiming them. i was working with a group called transaction trying to get the police departments to layoff that. that was in the '90s this issue has been around a long time. for those of us passionate about justice inequality this issue is meaningful to us. at the same time i'm also a parent. i don't know myself exactly how to handle the issue as a parent. so we're all trying to figure this stuff out. day to day lightning rod for a certain kind of conversation. what i do think you were talking about in the last segment, nuance, nuance can somebody challenge the orthodox on either side and not be considered to be

a hater. i don't think dave chappelle hates anybody. i don't agree with his analysis but i know he doesn't hate people. if you say if you disagree with me you hate me, if you disagree you're now responsible for teen suicides we can't have the conversation we're going to have. >> it's about curiosity and not judgment you said as we were getting ready to launch the show. >> that part. >> but also you know when you have a platform as big as his. >> every word matters. >> you have to be responsible. >> that's tough. >> can we talk politics while we have you here. this caught my eye. you know, herschel walker, down in georgia -- >> who's that? >> -- and you have lindsey graham was on talking about support for him. this caught our ears and eyes here on cnn this morning. watch this. >> they're trying to destroy herschel walker to deter young men and women of color from

being republicans. if they destroy herschel it will want to stop people of color from being a conservative republican, because it destroys your life. we cannot let that happen. if he wins, hae he's going to inspire people all over georgia to become republicans and i say all over the united states. herschel walker is a nightmare for liberals, an african american conservative, they have belittled him, treated him like crap. stand by herschel the conservative movement for people of color is on the ballot in georgia. we must help people like herschel for the benefit of our country and the future of conservatism. teamherschel.com, please. >> do you want to go first?

>> van, you go. >> well, first of all, he's a nightmare to the children that he has abandoned and done nothing for. he's a nightmare for his own son who came out and said he lies all the time and shouldn't number office. he's a nightmare. if you're a young black person and want to be conservative, there's a guy named tim scott who i'd direct you to, if you want to look to somebody in the senate. the idea, everything has to be extreme, if you don't want someone with his lack of qualifications to be in the senate, you now hate all conservatives and hate all black people to be conservatives. that's not true. we have conservative black people in our families. what are you talking about. >> this is what he's talking about. >> people like him always talk about race-baiting. >> oh. >> in politics. this is race-baiting. this is race-baiting in the worst form to say.

if you're black and you don't like this, this is the worst -- if you believe, you know, liberals, people who are not maga. and they're always race-baiting and they believe in identity politics, that's exactly what he's doing. the hypocrisy -- off the charts there. >> yeah. >> and then the -- you know, oh, my gosh, i thought he was going to start crying like a southern preacher. >> yeah. >> to tell people just because you're black and you don't support herschel walker that is the worst i believe form of racism. >> i believe so. . if the republican party continues to make its basic case around fiscal conservatives and stuff like that, they'll pick up black votes. i have two african american female cousins, one named kerr s shasha to tell the world, they love the idea, the idea that we

need somebody like lindsey graham to explain to you're community, it's ridiculous. if you're that evangelical in your belief about somebody, be evangelical about this man abandoning his own children. >> how likely, until you hear somebody like lindsey graham abandoning the children, i don't know if my cousin kersha is maga, but i know she's in republican. >> slight difference there. >> i take it back, i know she's a strong, proud conservative, and i love my cousin. >> thank you, van. >> thank you, van. >> thank you, van, thank you, don, that was a good conversation. >> yeah. flights are so expensive, airline prices keep going up but that does not stop american from booking flights. this is so interesting. really high demand, expensive tickets, why? le with the economy in

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♪ this morning, as all are you grapple with surging inflation, all of us, the skyrocketing cost of airfare is not stopping people from traveling. that's actually what the ceo of delta told us this week. listen. >> the demand is already back, the interest in travel, you can say that. everyone felt once the pandemic subsided they needed to go some place. by the way, whatever price it took, they needed to get out. so demand is driving the principle factor in pricing. >> our colleague pete muntean is live at reagan national airport for cnn this morning. i'm totally fascinated by this. because with everything more expensive, people are pulling

back a lot. there's all this recession talk, but they're buying expensive flights. >> reporter: no doubt, poppy, you know, people are done buying things, the travel experts say. now simply are ready to travel. it's been pretty busy here at reagan national airport today but what is so interesting the travel experts tell us really tickets are not much more expensive than they were back in 2019. and people are simply waiting until the tickets go down. we've all done it. overpaying, in essence, from adobe analytic, people paid $7.7 billion in october. 15% higher than before the pandemic. but the average numbers are roughly the same as what we saw back then. it's about $275 for a domestic round trip over thanksgiving, according to hopper. $283 for a domestic round trip over christmas. but what's clear, i want you to listen to the expert, do not

wait until the last minute. you may have missed your chance with thanksgiving. you still have an opportunity with christmas. you should book right now. >> it's no surprise that you're seeing folks generally overpaying this year, compared to where they were prepandemic, especially considering how much money folks had saved, not traveling over the past two years. and how much pent-up demand there was, folks really excited to take the first trips they've been able to or felt comfortable to in years. >> reporter: how long will we see this, poppy? well that is the big question. and travel experts say we have now reached the new normal. this is what you'll pay for airfare for a while now because the airlines see the demand is up. and people are willing to swallow these prices. there are still deals to find. if you are traveling for thanksgiving, you might have a little luck booking to go out of town, the monday before thanksgiving, come back the monday after, have a lot of time to spend with the in-laws. can't believe it, poppy, less than two weeks out to

thanksgiving. things about to be busy here. >> that's for sure. pete muntean, thank you for the reporting. this is a live look right now at arlington national cemetery on this veterans day. thank you to all who have served and all who sacrificed because of you, we get to vote in free and fair elections. and now, we have to figure out who won in these free and fair elections that just happened. control of congress still undecided this morning with more than 500,000 votes left to be counted. >> taking a look at arizona, the senate race there, dem mark kelly has widened his lead over republican blake masters. agency many as 350,000 ballots still have been calculated in maricopa county along. and in nevada where democrat catherine cortez masto is closing the gap on adam laxalt. a