thanksgiving. things about to be busy here. >> that's for sure. pete muntean, thank you for the reporting. this is a live look right now at arlington national cemetery on this veterans day. thank you to all who have served and all who sacrificed because of you, we get to vote in free and fair elections. and now, we have to figure out who won in these free and fair elections that just happened. control of congress still undecided this morning with more than 500,000 votes left to be counted. >> taking a look at arizona, the senate race there, dem mark kelly has widened his lead over republican blake masters. agency many as 350,000 ballots still have been calculated in maricopa county along. and in nevada where democrat catherine cortez masto is closing the gap on adam laxalt. a trump-backed candidate.

if they win, they coal the senate. >> but if the party split nevada, the georgia senate race is going to decide the balance of power in a runoff next month. most of you may be moving on from election day, not so in georgia. it seems like groundhog day the state is running through its third runoff contest in less than two years. herschel walker and raphael warnock are still there. >> he thinks we need a we. we need to get him out of that office. >> i need you to stick with me for four more weeks. can we do that? >> four more weeks, john berman is here. let's do senate, obviously. let's start with arizona. >> arizona, okay, here we go. so mark kelly now leads by 115,000 votes. there were some new votes tabulated and reported last

night from maricopa county. 78,000 new votes there. 78,000 new votes there, of which mark kelly, the democrat, won 55%. now, what's interesting about this, and what i want to talk about as we think about what's going forward. we think there are about 340,000 votes left to count for maricopa county alone. 290,000 of them are votes that were handed in on election day. mail ballots that were handed in on election day. >> okay. >> those tend to behave more like election day votes in arizona, at least they did two years ago. >> which means? >> they tend to skew more republican. at least they did two years ago. that's what we saw two years ago. the question is how much more republican this time for that huge batch of 290,000 votes. and will it be enough for blake masters to overtake mark kelly. he would have to win by enormous margins on that 290,000 vote total there.

but that's the situation in arizona. we think there's 540,000 votes left overall. one thing to think about as the target, he would need to win 60% or more of the remaining votes in order to take mark kelly. democrats feeling good. it's not over, but they're feeling good there. the republican adam laxalt ask ahead, but his lead shrunk overnight. also, there were new votes reported from clark county home of las vegas that makes up at least 75% of the state. there were 12,000 votes reported in clark county of which the democratic incumbent catherine cortez masto won 64% of that -- not just 12. 12,000. a similar situation where there was roughly 18,000 votes counted last night, of those catherine cortez masto, she won 60%. now, the reason i put those

messages up there, of the remaining vote, and cnn thinks there is roughly 95,000 -- there are roughly 95,000 votes left. 95k votes left here. if catherine cortez masto won 60% of that -- that would give her the lead. will they win 60%? >> when will we know? >> we'll know soon. 22,000 votes from washoe county, which should be counted by tonight. that could give her an additional 4,000, 5,000 votes, catherine cortez masto if it behaves like it has been. and then we got to get 15,000 votes left from clark county. so, you could see how this could close. is there enough room for her to make up the difference? we'll have to see. >> do you have to work the whole weekend? >> no, i can't. i actually had to take tomorrow off.

>> thank you for reporting that. >> thank you. thank you, poppy. did america dodge an arrow on election day, thomas friedman writes, tuesday's vote was the most important vote since the civil war whether the engine of our constitution, the ability to legitimately and peacefully transfer power remains intact. and it looks to come through a little dinged but, but okay. well, the perfect person to talk about this is the author of now, tom friedman. >> thank you. happy to be with you. congratulations on the show. >> thank you, i appreciate it. i'm used to talking to you at night and now i'm talking to you day side. let's see if we can have the same conversation, given the length to which election d denialism was elevated and the trump knuckleheads who

clocks cleaned, we may have had the biggest arrow s ever aimed at heart of our democracy. how do you think that? >> that peacefully transfer the power, that's the core of our democracy. we did that in this election. i think now, it's pretty clear, after two years of a defeated president and many in his party, claiming the last election was a fraud, and the fact that, in so many states, where even candidates who implied that trump nonsense were on the ballot, that they were rejected. and republicans who didn't find that conspiracy theory, were rewarded. that was the american people saying to trump take your

election denialism and shove it. we are going to vote. and we lust our neighbors and our voting officials to count the ballots fairly. that's a huge win for democracy. >> but there's still a lot of election deniers, especially state elections, right? and they're going to be in charge of deciding who wins and who does not. the election deniers elected to be in charge of elections, secretary of state, et cetera, so, do we really dodge an arrow? >> yeah, no doubt those people are out there. but ask yourself this, don, you know, have you heard trump saying that oz lost his guy in pennsylvania, he lost illegitimately? you haven't heard trump say this election was illegitimate. you know why -- because he actually doesn't care about anybody else except himself. >> and he's not on the ballot. >> and he's not on the ballot. he's not out there propagating

this nonsense. don, i get a little emotional when i vote. i went over to my local elementary. you go in there. there's young people, mostly retirees monitoring the ballots. conducting the elections. you see what i'm saying -- these are the great conspiracists that you talked about? shame on you, shame on you, in the middle of the pandemic, you perpetrated this lie oelection denial on the whole country. now we have this election, you don't say boo, of course, because you're not on the ballot. shame on you, you terrible man, what you put our country through. >> i love this column so much. and i'm really glad you agreed to come on. i was hopeful reading it. and a little more hope tell, tom, than you've been -- i think you've done a really good job of taking us back to even your cover of the war in lebanon. talking about what's at risk and how democracy is not guaranteed.

but as we watch biden go to the g20 and meet with president xi of china, you remind us of what xi told biden about democracy. i think we have that so we can remind our viewers. let's play it. >> called me to congratulate me on election night. he said to me, what he said many times before, he said democracies cannot be sustained in the 21st century. autocracies will run the world -- why? things are changing so rapidly. democracies are a consensus, and it takes time. and you don't have the time. he's wrong. >> it's really the battle of these two ideas as these two men meet. >> that's beautiful that you found that sound bite, poppy. you know, and that's the point. it's why putin and xi were always voting trump, for two

reasons. one, they knew that if he or his people were re-elected, they'll keep our country in chaos, undermining in their own self-inflicted way, our own democracy. and the more our democracy, our inability to transfer power legitimately is in peril, the more their refusal to transfer power legitimately is until peril. in russia and china. so, they love to see us in chaos. and they can point to their own people and say, that's what you get when you have democracy. and neither putin nor xi feel very comfortable this morning. how about adapting and being flexible -- xi playing whac-a-mole with a pandemic. shutting down the cities with 300 million people. that's what happens when you can't transfer power legitimately. when people can't question authority. so -- >> well, tom -- >> i think democracy had a good day. >> on that note, president biden

is going to meet with president is xi for the first time since biden took office. the pandemic thwarted them meeting sooner. we've been hearing from officials in recent days about what they expect to come out of that meeting. what do you think are things that biden must bring up with the chinese president when she sit down face-to-face? >> again, that's a very important question. i consider u.s./china relations the most important, you know, foreign relations we have right now. and they're not stable. they're not healthy. and we need to find a way to build bridges with china, where possible. and draw red lines where necessary. i don't want to be in a cold war with china. that's not good for us. that's not good for the world. not good for the world economy. you know, it would make me actually much more relieved if biden and xi had a phone call every two weeks. hey, this is what's bothering me, this is what's bothering you. u.s./china relations are really the core of the stability of the

world for the last 40 years and economic prosperity absent great power conflicts. and we need to find a way to collaborate with them as much as possible, stand up to them where necessary. i'm glad this meeting is happening. we're not going to agree that their system and our system is superior. but we can and must work together, because we are the real one country/two systems, the u.s. and china. and we need to find a way to work together. >> yeah. i think it's optimistic, but it's maybe a little overly optimistic. but i think it's a good idea to speak every two weeks when you actually sit down and have conversations with people. >> yeah. >> thomas friedman, thank you for joining us. have a great weekend. >> you, too. >> thanks. the powerful democratic campaign chair that was defeated by a republican is now blasting democrat alexandria ocasio-cortez. we'll sit down with aoc. plus, my conversation with

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politics for the poor showing that the state had on election night. outgoing new york congressman sean patrick maloney who was defeated tuesday night by a republican, criticized her in response, telling "the new york times," aoc had almost nothing to do with what turned out to be a historic defense in our majority. didn't pay a dollar of dues, didn't do anything for front line candidates except give them money when she didn't it wasn't from her. she responded on twitter saying in part, many moderate dems made it clear that progressive help was not wanted or welcomed for them to blame us for respecting their approach in their district is laughable. joining us host of anchor of "who is talking" to chris wallace. chris, seeing this is remarkable from the two of them. and the blame-casting on each side on this. what do you make of this, i know you just spoke to aoc recently.

>>? well, i did yesterday. i spoke to her yesterday. she's one of my guests on "who's talking now to chris wallace" that the will be on sunday. there are a lot of places because we talked about this, where she endorsed candidates and spoke positively about candidates. tim ryan running for senate in ohio, saying i didn't seek that endorsement. it's not helpful. mandela barnes running in wisconsin said i'm not running to be part of the squad. now, both of them lost, but the point she's making, look, if candidates for whatever didn't want my support, felt it was less helpful than more helpful, she said, that's fine. we all run our own campaign. >> chris, let's play a little clip from the interview that stood out to us with her. you talked to her yesterday on the wake of that horrible attack on the speaker's husband, paul

pelosi. and you talked about conspiracy. here it is. >> do people want both parties to move from the fringes, the extremes, back to the center? >> i think a lot of people in this country may say yes. but it's important for us to dig into the substance of what that actually means. as someone who is often, i think, characterized as extreme. i, of course, would object to that. i do not believe that i am as extreme in the way that marjorie taylor greene, on the republican side, is extreme. the idea that there is an equating of believing in someone who believes in guaranteed universal health care in the united states, with someone who believes that undocumented people should incur physical harm are somehow in the same level of extreme is something that i would object to. >> what do you make of that answer, chris? >> well, what i make of it, because i was asking her, is it going to be a course correction?

and do you feel that you need to make a course correction? and the answer is absolutely not when i asked her about specific policies. for instance, inflation, a lot of republicans say, and it was a big issue in the campaign, that there needs to be less government spending. her idea is to take it from the democratic socialist point of view which is that corporations are price-gouging and they're making windfall profits and the government needs to move against them. now, if you get a republican house -- not set yet -- but if you get a republican house, that's not going to happen but clearly, her feeling is as a progressive she still believes after this very, very close election, she's going to go full speed ahead with her progressive idea. >> her response, so, she really had like this huge tweet last night. she also said, as for him not seeing me, as a reference to the campaign trail, she said perhaps he as a party leader chose not to see nor value prominent members of his party for years.

talking sack whether the powerful people in her party, like it or not, they're going to try to turn out voters. >> well, you know, sean patrick maloney in a pretty rare night for democrats was a rare defeat. and it for the democratic campaign committee, he was the democrat in charge of helping democrats to get re-elected. he ended up pushing one of his colleagues in that district. he ran in that district. and he became the first campaign chair to be defeated by the other party since 1980. and i have to say, and i like congressman maloney, but there's a fair measure of sour grapes in anything he says today. >> i was just watching, reading this, and i thought it was a pretty civil disagreement. and isn't this what politics should be doing? even if they're in their own

party, they should be debating issues? they were debating issues, i don't really see any harm in it. >> you're talking about aoc and maloney? >> and aoc. >> well, there was a bit of finger pointing where he said she should be giving more money. >> well, back and forth, that's what they should be doing discussing policies and did you go too far, i think that's the game, isn't it? >> i'm not sure after you lost whether you should blame your lost on someone els who was not in your district. i promise you, aoc was not asking maloney. and support more. that's the last thing he was asking for on november 7. >> thanks, chris. >> chris wallace, can't wait to watch that interview with alexandria ocasio-cortez, the progressive democratic congresswoman on sunday night. thanks for joining us this morning. all right. and underwater secret now revealed after 36 years.

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♪ so, the new movie "till" tells a true story of the lynches of 14-year-old emmett till, through the eyes of his mother mamie till mobley, take a look. >> what's wrong, baby? >> we've never been apart this long. >> he's just going to see his cousins, not a bad thing to know where he come from. >> well, chicago is all he needs to know. i don't want him seeing himself the way those people are seen down there. >> those people like me?

>> well, that's the legendary whoopi goldberg who also produced and acts in the film. i had a chance to talk with her about that, and much more. over a decade, you've been wanting to do this. >> yeah. >> and then finally. >> and then we were able to get the financing finally. you know, people said, oh, who wants to see that? nobody wants to see that again. you like have to whisper to people you've never seen it before. people think they know the story. black folks know the story. not a lot of black women don't know it because they didn't have top. young black men who were my brother's age all knew the caution. that was the caution, don't let what happened to emmett till happen to you down there. >> he just wanted to go on vacation and have fun with his cousins. but if i son could just get his feet back on the chicago soil, he'd be one happy kid. >> is it fair to call it a labor of love? >> yeah.

>> then why so important, do you think? >> because, if you deal with racism, we're talking about racism. you have to know what it actually looks like, what can happen because of it. a young, ordinary young man, young black man, went down to mississippi. and lost his life, because he whistled at a white woman. when you are not human to somebody else, they can come and take your kids and kill them. and not think twice about it. >> emmett louis till has been found dead -- >> can i at least -- >> no, they have to see it for themselves. >> this is -- i was watching, i was like, this is an ode to mamie till. >> yeah. >> this is an ode to her. because i think we heard about her strength, but you see it there. >> yeah. >> everyone is saying you can't go there, you're risking your life. you're never going to get a couple white men convicted in

monty, mississippi, in the 1950s. she said, it doesn't matter, i have to show up for my son. >> yeah. >> but in that process, she showed up for the world. >> for the world. and it's important that everybody understands that this was done for us all. she showed her son's body for everybody. because she recognized that this could happen to anyone. if we don't get on top of it. and the last part of this, i'm hoping we'll be able to have mrs. bryant in front of a jury to ask her about this. >> it's important that you bring her up. you're caulking about carolyn bryant, she is the woman who accused emmett till of whistling at her. this summer there was a grand jury declined to indict, the white woman of a 14-year-old making advances towards her.

they found there was insufficient evidence to indict carolyn bryant. do you think the justice will ever see justice, because it won't be in a traditional way -- >> no. >> do you think they will see justice? >> i hope they do. and i want her to say, yes, i did it and i take responsibility. that's what i want. >> this movie, i told you, i watched it a couple times. >> yeah, yeah. >> because it's a very dignified movie. >> yeah. >> and while it did anger me, it filled me with applied. because of the way it was shot. the homes, it reminded me of my youth. the way they spoke. the private connection they had. >> the movie was made for everyone. because we -- you know, we don't show the violence, because we all know what that is. >> you hear some of it, you cut to the darkness. >> you hear it, you know, but

you don't see. you know what's happened. >> it's a similarity to what's going on now. because i want to talk about what we're dealing with now with his whole lack of civility in our culture. you can speak to people any kind of way. >> yeah. >> i have to say, whoopi, you've got guts, you said i'm out of here on twitter. i'm not dealing with it and it gets better. why did you make that decision? >> because i just felt it was too sloppy for me. i always thought twitter was there, you know, to talk to people and share ideas and that. then it got really crazy and i stopped reading it. >> toxic? >> very toxic. and especially because i'm on a daytime show. so, you know [ bleep ] -- [ bleep ] and [ bleep ] you know, after a while, it's like either find something else to say to me, or leave me alone. and so in watching everything going on, i just thought, do i need to be here? i didn't. and so i left.

>> do you think that we will get to a point, back to a point, where people -- where we see other people as human beings? >> yeah, listen. all of that, we have always faced this. it's not new. but somehow we as a race, as a human race, rose up and said, here's what's acceptable to us, here's what's not acceptable. >> so, tuesday, you know, everyone said, well, bijoe bide he's too old, his approval rating. what do you believe? because it looks to me he's winning. >> well, i think the people -- they may not like everything that he's done. but they like a lot of what he's got done. they see what he's got done. that's the beauty of all of this. >> you know dr. oz? >> i know dr. oz. i don't know what happened to him. don't even ask me. i don't know. i don't know what happened to a lot of really smart good people.

people that like to fight and argue with about our ideas. but it was never -- it was never like this. it was never toxic like this. >> i never told you this, but i -- it was relatable to me, you early on, because of who i am and what i am, right? i had to sort of live -- i created my own fantasy. >> uh-huh. >> like to get by. >> right. >> i saw you, this is my hand, you created a fantasy character in order to survive as a child. so i thank you for that. >> thank you for telling me. >> we ended that by saying, i said to her -- i was talking how she was the comedian, she would put on the fake hair and this fantasy, this was before she became the movie star that she is. but, you know, i ended by saying thank you, because i'm enjoying "the view," sitting here with whoopi goldberg. everybody time i talk to

somebody like a whoopi or bryant gumbel, i have to pinch myself. i love whoopi. >> i loved that conversation even more than i thought i would. i think this is why i think it's a gift to get to sit next to you guys every morning. >> oh, poppy. >> really, it's so important to hear that interview for you, and hear that from her, and hear that mother's grief. >> and relatable to everybody. >> yeah. >> everybody can relate what it's about. it's really about family. >> yeah, thank you for that. >> i've got to say again, whoopi -- thank you, whoopi, i'm sure you're not going to see this if you're watching now, if as you prepare for "the view," thank you for everything that you do for really the culture and the idea of listening to everyone. she's on a show called "the view." what whoopi does, she listens. she states her opinion, if she gets it wrong, she says i got it wrong, i'm sorry. right? and then she moves on. and i learned that from whoopi. but what i also learned from

whoopi and from interviewing people -- well, i shouldn't say interviewing -- is that the difference is what we do here. i think we have to sort of change it, you know, our thinking. we shouldn't be interviewing people. >> talking with them? >> we should be having conversations with people. the great thing about the great larry king on this network was, larry was not an interviewer. larry was a good conversationalist. >> he'd lean in? >> he'd get the conversation. and that's what i try to do as i sit here every day, have a conversation and not interview them. whoopi, thank you for helping me along that journey. the best. >> great conversation. we've been telling you how russian troops are withdrawing from the key city of kherson. cnn's nic robertson has been in cities celebrating the occupation. he's joining us live. nic, your shots are fascinating

this morning, seeing people celebrating. this seemed to be a lightning fast retreat. what have you been seeing? >> reporter: yeah, look, in the last hour, i can say i've been seeing tanks heading down this road towards kherson, that direction. seeing armored personnel literally sitting there, chatting with troops by armored personnel that were stopped by the side of the road stopping to get something to eat and then got a call move on out. there's materiel moving down the road towards kherson. but i think what's sort of been the most unexpected and harrowing as well, to be some this town that was literally liberated by the ukrainian troops just yesterday. and talked to the town people there, i was speaking with a 15-year-old girl there who told me in the last few days, she'd been kidnapped by the russians. they'd put a hood over her head.

they'd taken her to a house. they threatened her. they wanted to know where the ukrainian troops were. she said i was just afraid that these guys were going to rape me. i spoke to an old woman who was in tears, tears, on the side of the street, partly in relief, but she was reliving moments of her experience under the russian occupation there. she told me that they pulled me from my car and threatened to kill me. threatened to bash my brains out. this is an old lady. an old lady, must have been in her 80s. a pensioner. they threatened to do that her. we saw people hugging in the streets. seeing friends and relatives they haven't seen for so long. there's a sort of quiet euphoria, the freedom. but it's come all of a sudden. and it's come all of a sudden because the russians have retreated quickly. and more ukrainian troops are moving farther towards liberating the town of kherson. and we're today, by ukrainian

officials that they are close, it's not done yet, but they're close to taking kherson. >> wow. it's remarkable, the first major city that fell to russian forces. we're watching it closely, nic robertson, i know you are. thanks for being on the ground. we'll get back to you. just a few moments ago, president biden there, you see him agency a jet air force just landed in egypt where they're looking for a major movement in some kind of victory in fighting climate change. and votes are still being counted in arizona and nevada. we're live on the ground. we're not there yet, but we'll bring you the latest.

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♪ moments ago, president biden arrived in egypt for the united nations climate summit known as copp-27. you're going to see him meeting with the egyptian president in a few minutes from now. he's wanting to tout a landmark climate law that passed in the united states, but a lot of those leaders especially the

ones from developing nations, they want to talk about money. they've been criticizing the united states and other industrial nations for causing climate change, they say. they want reparations. biden is expected to talk about the initiatives from oil and gas sector and climate partnerships. well, this morning, votes are still being counted and we don't know what the balance of power will be in washington. but we know what history tells us, and history has shown that the party in power almost always loses power in the house, senate or both. how will this shape the direction of the country for the next two years and beyond. joining us we're very lucky to have pulitzer prize winning best-selling author, doris goodwin. her new book "leadership," doris, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to talk about what it was to have democracy on the ballot in the midterms.

if you can talk to us in the context of what lincoln said, right, as the civil war was getting about the question that the country must settle? i think that applies now, no? >> without question, it applies now. democracy, we forget the definition, it's a system of government that people can vote the leaders in or throw them out. which means you have to accept when you're thrown out. and you have to accept laws. the peaceful transfer of power with lincoln, said when the civil war was starting was the idea can a government continue to exist, if the people who don't accept the election, the democratic south decide to pick up the union because we lost, he said if that's true, then we have no democracy. that's what we have now, the people who lost the election would not accept and it's fundamental for democracy. but people came out and voted on this. and that's what happened in the midterms. >> it really did.

>> what surprised, we expected a red wave and it was not. a lot of people got that wrong. what did you see that motivated voters? we looking at the polls, inflation was top of the mind for all of them but it. wasn't the only thing that you prioriti prioritize? >> there's certain times in history you that talk about something other than yourselves. fdr talked about that, people were upset about having one cup of coffee a day. that's all they were allowed because the coffee beans had to go somewhere else. they only had five gallons of gasoline. and he said at some point, you learn that you have to sacrifice for the home front. i think that's what happened here. people accept there's something wrong with the election, the election deniers, that's who trump put on the ballot. it's a litmus test to be there. they know it's wrto say, if i w, 00 eye win. but if i lose, that's the

result. 44% came out and said democracy was the most important thing for them. we didn't guess that. we thought the short-term things were of concern. i think it's a great moment where you can care about your nation and our democracy. >> the simple question is, where are we when it comes to democracy? you're a historian, is there a time that we look back that gives us hope that we got through this story? >> well, we've always gotten through tough times. that's why i love history so much. just think of what people living through the civil war felt? what people living through the great depression felt, and allies and democracy, when it didn't look like it was going to win. they didn't know how the story would end. they didn't know that the civil war would end with emancipation. they didn't know that depression would come to an end, and they didn't know about the allies of world war ii.

we scale came through each of t times with greater strength. people in the midterms were voting what they knew was wrong, what they knew was right. there's still a lot more to happen. gerrymandering, there's too much money in politics. finally people got to vote. i thought after january 6th that line in the sand would be drawn and it wasn't. i still don't believe it that. as a historian, people would say, this is the moment. and then last summer when the hearings were so powerful. but this is the first time that people could vote on what they saw happening with the election deniers and making a central point in this whole election. that people who supported the lie should be the people who were voted in, regardless of their experience or anything else, they were put on the ballot, and people said no. >> my favorite book of yours, other than "wait until next time" your brooklyn and your dad, team of rivals. as we look forward to maybe a split government and the president saying i'm going to work with republicans, you know,

talking to mccarthy, what do you think will happen? i mean, he talks -- president biden talks a lot about lincoln. >> i think it will depend, a lot, on what the republicans decide to do. if they do win the house. i mean the interesting thing that happened. we can look back at clinton. when clinton lost that huge election in 1994, he then was able to make some compromises with gingrich. welfare reform took place. he wins that 1996 election, then he comes back into power. then they go too far and they impeach him. in 1998, he's one of those people that defies predictions that the democrats win the house. and they win seats in one of those off-seat years. it depends how extreme the republicans go. what they're going to do. are they going to hold a whole punch of impeachment things. and make compromises. as well as president biden who says he's willing to do these things, as long as it's not medicare, social security and certain things that he's drawn a line in the santdd on. >> thanks for giving us hope.

>> there's no other way, right? >> by the way, that's a cool shirt. >> thank you, it's my "people" shirt. >> i love that. >> the one and only doris goodwin. >> thank you, thank you. okay. now, this a piece of debris from a dark day in american history has just been discovered deep in the atlantic ocean. i'll tell you what it is, next. i'm a coastal lodge. i might sound fancy but i'm pretty down to earth. no flashy lights or big city noise here. i'm looking for someone who enjoys the soothing sounds of the ocean and taking in the view. i may have a rocky exterior but i've got soft pillows and breakfast on the house. so, if you're looking for a warm place to stay, toss another log on the fire.

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was lost at sea got quite the surprise when they actually found something else on the bottom of the atlantic. a piece of debris from the space shuttle challenger that, of course, to the nation's horror exploded after taking off in 1986. cnn's space and defense correspondent kristin fisher joins us now. obviously these explorers i imagine were pretty shocked when they found this piece of the challenger. >> they couldn't believe it, kaitlan. what tipped them off to it was if you are looking at that video that they were taking as they were filming this discovery you can see kind of those white square tiles, and what those are the heat shield tiles. those are that really distinctive, really critical part of the space shuttle that would form the underbelly of the space shuttle and those heat shield tiles would protect it from the high temperatures on re-entry into the earth's atmosphere. of course, this challenger mission never even made it that far. it was discovered actually back

in may by a team led by mike barnett, they were putting together a film for the history channel. they weren't sure what it was, they thought they knew what it was, they brought it to a former nasa astronaut, they thought it was challenger, they brought it to nasa and they confirmed it in august. the big question is what is nasa going to do with this. right now it's just on the bottom of the ocean floor off the coast of florida. so this by law remains the property of the u.s. government, but nasa says they're still trying to figure out a way -- what to do with it to honor the legacy of challenger and the seven astronauts that died on that fateful day back in 1986. >> it's really fascinating. i can't wait to see what they do do with it. kristin fisher, thank you. all right. president biden is meeting with egypt's president right now, he just landed there, he is about to speak at this big cop27 climate conference in egypt. we will bring you there next.

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casket. >> most of the veterans have never really told their story to anybody before. >> they will shoulder the burden as they already have done. >> and i try to explain to them in the beginning it's going to be easier to tell your story once you create your art piece because you are not going to be talking about you, you are going to be talking about your art piece and focus on it. ♪ there's something breaking out of me ♪ >> i want them to know that art is an option for healing. ♪ say some things a man just can't say ♪ >> i think they're all heroes. so you can go to cnnheroes.com for more. thank you to everyone who has served this veterans day. >> amen. >> have a good, safe weekend. >> that's it for us. have a great weekend, everybody. see you monday. >> "cnn newsroom" is now