as you know, i'm committed to keeping the lines of communications open between you and me personally, but our governments across the board, because our two countries have so much that we have an opportunity to deal with. >> a statesman should think about and know where to lead his country. he should also think about and know how to get along with other countries and the wider world. good morning everyone. it is monday, november 14th. that is what's happening overseas. the president is traveling. that was president joe biden and chinese president xi jinping this morning in bali, indonesia at the g20 summit. the two leaders briefly spoke

about what they hoped to get out of the meeting. we just learned that the meeting has just ended. so it lasted about three hours. in just a few minutes, president joe biden will answer questions from reporters on the high-stakes sit-down. we'll take you there live. also, a manhunt is under way at the university of virginia after a gunman killed three people at the campus in charlottesville. what police are now looking for. democrats officially locked down control of the senate once again. big wins in arizona and nevada. that means chuck schumer will remain the senate majority leader. he's going to join us live in studio to talk about how democrats defied historical odds with that win. first, let's go to the magic wall because there are key races. it's still not been called when it comes to the house. yes, over at the magic wall with mr. john berman. hello. good morning to you. where do things stand right now? >> this is where things stand in the house of representatives.

republicans, we call 212 for them, 204 for democrats. you need 218 to control the house of representatives. the republicans only need six more wins, democrats would need 14. these are the uncalled races right now. let me show you where the uncalled races are. the ones that have colors on them are uncalled. there are 19. republicans lead in ten, democrats lead in nine. if democrats want to maintain control of the house, they have to flip five of these red seats to blue. i'll write this number here. five of these red districts would have to be blue. right now it's between california and arizona. arizona is making democrats' job very difficult, daunting, maybe next to impossible at this point. what happened overnight. there were new votes released here in arizona's sixth county. john sis manny expanded his lead ever so much against kerstin engel in 93% reporting. the one that may be the dagger

for democrats is here, arizona's first congressional district. david swiek kehrt, 894 votes ahead. going into the weekend it was the democrats, devin hodge ahead by 4,000 votes. there have been vote releases in maricopa county which have given the republican the edge there which brings it to where it is right now. while i'm talking about arizona because this is important, the governor's race -- >> that's where i wanted to go. the governor's race in arizona has yet to be called. katie hobbs is 26,000 votes ahead of ckari lake. there are 175,000 votes remaining in arizona. 175,000 votes. if kari lake, the republican, is able to win 58% -- question

mark -- she would net, and i have this written down here, she would net 27,200 votes, which is more than 26,000. so her target is 58%. the problem, don, for her -- let me swipe this out, is that the votes have been released over the last day in maricopa county here, she got 55%, kari lake did. in pima county, we'll go down h here, in pima county she only got 40%. this is a democratic-plus 18 county. there's some 40,000 votes left to count in pima county here. i kept this up. again, kari lake needs -- i'll put 58%, 58% of the remaining 175,000 votes in maricopa, the last count she got 55.

in pima county only 40. it's a tall order for kari lake. >> underperforming the percentage she needs. >> underperforming the percentage she would need to overtake katie hobbs. joins us is the election director from pima county, constance hargrove. pima is home to the city of tucson. thank you so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. how many votes left to count? >> we have about 40,000 votes left to count, about 38,000. >> and the question is how long will it take to count those remaining ballots? >> we should be able to complete what we have in our office, which is about 35,000 by end of day on tuesday. however, we have about 750 ballots that the recorder will probably not be able to turn over to us until maybe possibly thursday because they have until

thursday at 5:00 p.m. to secure those ballots because of the holiday. >> do you have a question? >> i'm looking at the number. about 40,000 left. that would mean about 40,000 released today, 20,000 released tomorrow. is that correct? >> we've been able to process about 20,000 a day, so yes. >> in terms of where in the county they're from, are they all mixed together roughly? again, i'm not telling you to tell me the percentage of democrats or republicans. every day it's come back, it's been roughly 60/40 for ca katie hobbs, kari lake. >> basically what we're counting now are ballots dropped off on election day, so they could go either way. katie hobbs was still leading with the count yesterday, but it switched a little bit for

ciscomani. he got more votes yesterday than engel did. >> since we're talking about kari lake, i want to play this and get your response to it. here it is. >> i consider someone's vote their voice. i think of it as a sacred vote. it's being trampled the way we run our elections in arizona. i've been sounding the alarm for two years. very little got down the last legislative session. we need to get in there and restore faith in our elections. we can't be the laughing stock of elections anymore. we need people competent running our elections. this incompetency or maladministration is out rage ous. the good thing is more people are waking up to the fact that arizona has real troubles when it comes to elections. what's your response, ms. hargrove? >> well, in arizona it's a process. it's a pretty slow process

because we're trying to check every ballot and make sure that the information is accurate, make sure we have the right ballot for the current election. it's a process that's in place in arizona to make the elections secure. so i don't think it's incompetent. i don't think anybody is incompetent because it's going a little slower than people expect. >> constance hargrove is the director of elections for pima county. thank you for that. john, we'll check back in with you shortly. kaitlan. >> as we await the further results out of those states, arizona and california, we know what's happening in the senate. cnn has projected democrats will maintain control of the senate defying gop expectations of a red wave. joining us now is senate majority leader chuck schumer of new york who won his election and now set to become new york's

longest serving senator in his fifth term. you were maintaining that title of senate majority leader. you're facing historical odds, inflation at a high, biden's approval rating is not. how do democrats defy those expec expectations? >> i say there are three reasons we defied all the expectations. first, we had great candidates. our candidates cared about people, were effective, talked directly to everyday americans' concerns, and they ran against a whole bunch of flawed candidates who were interested in tossing fire bombs across the wall but not really getting things done for average families. the second reason we ron, our record of accomplishment. we accomplished so much for average folks. they never thought we would be able to take on pharma and get prescription drug prices lower. they never thought we could do anything on climate change. we did the most effective thing we've ever done on climate

change. on difficult issues even like gun safety, we came together with republicans on a bipartisan compromise and moved the ball forward for the first time in 30 years. democrats got a lot done. to average voters, they care about that. i know there's a lot of sterm and drang here, but they cared. third and maybe the most important, the american people saw that democracy was at risk. they saw there were these maga republicans who denied the election. that's one of the fundamentals of democracy. when you lose an election, you don't say the election was a fraud and you call it off, who either ignored violence or even encouraged it when the maga republicans did it. the republican leadership is to blame here because they didn't push back. the average american saw this. they saw that autocracy was eroding the edge of our democracy, and we got votes from

republicans who said this new maga republican party led by trump -- i'm a reagan republican, i'm a bush republican, i'm not this type of republican. that made a huge difference as well. if you look finally at the closing arguments say in nevada, one of the two closing armgts for katherine cortez massto was this idea that her opponent was an election denier. the second, of course, was choice which was an important issue both in itself. american people do not want to see rights ae roaded. my children, my daughters will have fewer rights than my wife or my mom did under this. but it also showed how far right this republican party had moved, and the republican leadership was letting it happen. >> we want to break down the gop aspect of this. you have a lot to do -- i know you're coming back to washington after this interview.

>> getting in the car. >> you have a lot on your agenda. are you going to talk to mitch mcconnell? what does that look like? >> let me just say this. the american people are yearning for us to get things done. the american people, they believe in democracy. i want to finish that last point. the roots of democracy are a lot worriers give it credit for. they understood democracy was being eroded. they also are practical. they want us to get something done for them. they don't expect us to do everything at once. they want us to get something done. that's why i think so many of them chose democrats over republicans because we were focusing on what they cared about and what they needed as opposed to tossing these hand grenades across the wall. i will say to my party, we're not going to get everything we want like on the guns bill, we didn't get everything we want. let's try to sit down with the republicans and get something done. and just as importantly, i'm going to say to the republicans in the senate who are not the

maga republicans, stop letting them lead your party. work with us to get things done, and i intend to sit down with mitch mcconnell -- >> you've been saying that -- go ahead. >> you're sitting down with mitch mcconnell this week? >> i intend -- i said this yesterday and the day before, too. i intend to sit down with him and say we should be working together. you're not going to get the extremists in your party to work with anybody, but the rest of us can work together and get some real things done for the american people. in answer to your question, don, we got plenty -- >> you think it's going to work this time? >> in the last senate where we got so much credit in june, july and august forgetting things done, five of those six bills were bipartisan. the guns bill was bipartisan. the bill to help our veterans exposed to the toxins that came out of the burn pits was bipartisan. the most major industrial policy

bill ever or in a very long time, the chips and science bill was bipartisan. we did most of our -- i tried to do things in a bipartisan way, and we've had -- >> i understand what you're saying. you've had lots of success. i'm wondering what is different -- what is going to be different this time with the maga republicans? you said that before, please work with us. why is it different this time? >> it's different this time because they lost. they all expected to win. the red wave proved to be a red mirage. one of the main reasons for sure was that average american folks, even those in the middle, even those who tended to be republican said i'm afraid of this maga. they're trying to ruin our democracy. it's not -- if you look at the numbers, if you look at the results, house and senate, the maga republican way didn't work. the maga republican candidates across the board, you just showed some of them, lost. if you're a good leader of a

republican party, you say continuing to follow them is a path to disaster. >> one more followup to that. >> sure. >> the messaging. people were very critical of the messaging as you saw in the media. i stalked to a couple of folks in the democratic party this week en. one is an advisor to the president. he said i was telling the potus the entire time that the streets were not saying what the polls were saying and that young people are coming out. they're telling me rather than having big events and saying the president isn't going here or there, that you actually had democrats in the trenches in areas working with people, talking about the accomplishments, asking them what they were going to do and the pundits and the media didn't understand the strategy. >> correct. if you would have looked at what actually was happening as opposed to the day to day, what's the latest fire bomb they're throwing over the wall, you would have seen just what you said, that we were talking to average people. you know what one of our most successful commercials and arguments was?

prescription drugs. we were getting the cost of prescription drugs low. when you poll the american people over the last five, ten years, what's one of the number one or two or three things they want? get the cost of those drugs down. we did it. we did it in the ira bill. when you talk about young people, i predicted the young people were going to vote for us. why? we focused on climate which they really care about, and we got more done for climate than ever in history, and we talked about student debt. you know, again, a lot of the pundits said -- the young people, when i would go to a group of young people, when i would go to a black church, the number one thing i'd be asked is what about student debt? we did something about it. >> fair. but now a federal judge has said you overstepped constitutionally. >> well -- >> that matters for millions -- it matters for the millions of people who bet on this administration and the fact you didn't do it legislatively, you

did it through executive order. >> a maga republican judge, and what we have done in this senate is passed a record amount of judges at the district court. >> yes, you have. there has been a lot of movement. >> and the court of appeals to counterbalance these maga judges which the public doesn't like. now that we have the majority, we'll be able to keep doing it. >> you'll like my next question because it's about the power that comes with the majority which is critical including nominating and confirming judges. out want 51. you don't just want 50. you want georgia. voters in georgia who may be feeling a little more at ease says, whew, we've got arizona and nevada, it's not a crisis for us. what's your message to them? >> the message is who is going to best help georgia? and raphael warnock, let's go over the record. he's a man of service. he did his service as a member

of 2 cloth and was a great leader of one of the most famous pulpits in american, the ebenezer baptist church. second, when he got to the senate he got real things done for georgia. i mentioned the kof of drugs. one of the things we have for medicare is a cap on insulin, $35 is the cap. it used to cost people 600, 700. average families, working families who were older and had diabetes, what am i going to do? black farmers for decades, maybe centuries, black farmers were neglected when they gave out all the agricultural help and subsidies. he got $4 billion in the budget for it. the message that raphael warnock will have that will carry him to victory is he can help georgia much better than anybody else. >> to poppy's question there, fear is a great motivator. you don't have the fear that you're not going to win the senate now, the majority. people may say, look, we have

the majority. how do you motivate people to come out who may feel like we don't have to because we've already won the senate? >> well, i believe that the kinds of things that raphael warnock is talking about that benefit georgians are motivation. this is how we did it, by the way. >> will we see the president come out, former president obama? >> i think this is a wras that's a georgia race. i think raphael warnock is the right guy for georgia. another thing he helped work on is expand health care benefits. aca is now affecting millions more people. tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of georgians, working class and others. now it's cheaper and covers more people. my argument, which has been all along, and you said the pundits and some of the others didn't go for it but it prevailed, is actually making the government work for people. even if you can't get everything you want, you get some of what you want, is what was the message -- the message in this

election as well as no more of this assault on democracy, no more toleration of these really far -- people who don't believe in democracy and want to win at any cost. >> i thought it was striking when speaker pelosi told anderson, our colleague, last week, she wants to see a strong republican party. you talk about working together, meeting with mcconnell and getting things done. do you also want to see a strong republican party? what does that look like in the senate? >> i want to see us get things done. we're not going to violate our principle. we never have and never will. the best thing to get things done, as we showed this summer, do what you ka on a bipartisan basis. when you can't do it on the bipartisan basis, we try to do it on our own. that's the ira bill which had the prescription drugs, republicans were not willing to go against pharma. which had climate, republicans were not willing to go against the oil and gas industry. what changed in reference to don's question maybe, i hope,

and i'm willing to give it a chance, is they lost on going along with all this maga stuff. >> you didn't mention abortion -- >> abortion is a key issue. i mentioned a little bit earlier, at the very beginning. it was a key issue to so many, so many women and even though it was high polling in the summer. if you look again at our closing arguments in many of the races where we won including just nevada, abortion was one of the two top arguments we made. if people would look at what messages we were sen on our campaigning as you mentioned by knocking on the doors, but also in the commercials, they're a lot different than what you might have read in the newspaper day to day. >> lightning round before we let you go, every reporter -- >> i'm a yankee fan, and new york giants. >> more serious than that. every reporter in washington wants to know are you going to extend the debt ceiling? >> that's a very good question.

that's something we'd like to do, best done on a bipartisan basis. i'm going to talk to my caucus and the leadership on the other side of the aisle to see what we can get done. >> my last question: does the outcome of what happened in the midterm elections strongly signify that biden should run for re-election? >> we'll make that decision himself. >> what do you think? >> if he runs, i'll support him. >> every democratic i've spoken to says they want biden to run. they don't believe they should be the ones to say it. >> if he wants to run, i'll support him. >> questions from a very smart young lady, an older lady said to me, why do democrats -- talking about messaging, why do democrats and folks in the media, you keep saying democracy is under assault, the assault on democracy. why don't you say what it really is? an assault on america. >> it is. >> is that a more potent message? >> the two are sort of the same. america is the greatest democracy ever.

when the founding fathers founded our country, they called it god's noble experiment. it's an assault on democracy and america. i think most people tie the two together. >> before you go, i'm going to add one tont lightning round. marriage equality, that matters to a lot of folks. it's somewhere where you think you guys can get it done together. will marriage equality get passed in the lame duck session? >> a great example of the bipartisanship we're talking about. it passed the house, marriage equality. unexpectedly got 35 republican votes. that was great. some people said put it on the floor right away, but we didn't have -- we need 60. you need ten republicans. we didn't have it. the two leaders i appointed to help get this done, tammy baldwin, senator of wisconsin, kyrsten sinema, senator of arizona said they talked to republicans, and if we wait until after election, they'll vote for it. instead of just having a show

boat where we would lose, i said i'll wait. and now we'll go back to our caucuses and see where we're at. along with debt ceiling, and we have to fund the government, that's probably the most important. >> that would be nice. >> it's one o of the most important things i'd like to get done this lame duck session. >> senate majority leader chuck sch schumer, thank you for spending so much time with us. these are really important questions and our audience appreciates it. >> i enjoyed it. >> have a safe drive back to washington. go bills. >> go vikings. what is going on here? former vice president mike pence is calling out his former boss' actions on january 6th. there's a new interview we'll show you. also, former first lady michelle obama weighing in on president biden's political future. >> here we go again. >> do you hope president biden will run again in 2024?

>> her answer is next. at any moment president biden will hold a significant news conference, take case from reporters after this three-hour meeting, three hours with xi jinping. we'll bring it to you live. stay with cnn this morning.

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so the stormer vice president mike pence is putting more distance between himself and his former boss, finally sharing his thoughts in a new interview on a tweet trump sent out attacking pence for not overturning the 2020 election. listen to this. >> 2:24 p.m. the president tweets mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done. >> it angered me. but i turned to my daughter who was standing nearby, and i said it doesn't take courage to break the law. it takes courage to uphold the law. the president's words were reckless. it was clear he decided to be

part of the problem. >> and the former vice president is going to join jake tapper for a live cnn town hall wednesday at 9:00 p.m. a growing number of republicans are calling out donald trump blaming him for the gop's underwhelming midterm elections. watch this. >> this should have been a huge red wave. it should have been one of the biggest red waves we've ever had. people who tried to relate gait the 202 election and focused on conspiracy theories and talked about things the voters didn't care about. they were almost university rejected. i think it's basically the third election in a row that donald trump has cost us the race. three strikes, you're out. >> do you think that's true? we've heard that after one strike and two strikes, to keep your analogy going. >> the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. donald trump kept say we're going to be winning so much,

we're going to get tired of winning. i'm tired of losing. that's all he's done. joining us, co-anchor of "state of the union," dana bash. i texted you in realtime. >> you did. loyal viewer thank you. >> i was on the treadmill, this is such a great interview. the hogan interview, the pelosi interview sbl she just texted us about our schumer interview. >> yes, we all do love each other, america. let's start on larry hogan. i think your followup was so perfect. you said three strikes you're out trump. you're like, am i sure. maureen dowd said in "the new york times," are we sure or is this going to reverse just like it has over and over again? >> we've seen this movie before. this is what everybody thought in the hours and maybe a couple of days after january 6th. even from lindsey graham to

kevin mccarthy himself on the floor of the house of representatives, signaling enough is enough, and then it changed. kevin mccarthy went to mar-a-lago, the famous picture with their thumbs up. instead of sort of taking the oxygen away from former president trump, they gave him oxygen. so it's a very, very big question. i don't think we know the answer yet, despite what larry hogan said. remember, the governor of maryland has been very much against trump and trumpism, particularly election denialism consistently across the board. he has, as i mentioned, kind of been on an island in his party on that note. i honestly don't think we know, despite losing, we don't know whether or not trump really is over in the party yet. >> dana, this is what you do, and let me ask -- i saw you this

weekend. in a room with lots of people from different political stripes. a lot of people talking about the subject we're talking about right now. the billionaires, the big donors moving away from donald trump. the question is does it matter? he still has the people, for the most part, at least the loudest part of the electorate, the maga folks. i'm wondering if that's going to make a difference because he can still get, you know, millions and millions of people to donate small amounts of money. is that going to make a dent if the elites, so to speak, in the republican party aren't really on his side? >> well, one way you can look at it, elites, talking about big donors. the other way that many people in the party are looking at it right now is independents who are critical, who did help him win in 2016 and more what they call weak republicans, republicans who are registered

that way but tend to kind of swing back and forth. the answer is, when you look at the general elections, if donald trump were to get that far, it definitely could hurt the republican party. i think the question you're asking is really the question, especially as we look to tomorrow and this big announcement ha the former president is teasing, whether he does actually go forward and announce that he is running for president. he does have a very strong significant amount of support within the republican party. if you look at the exit polls, it kind of bears that out. even if the question of election denialism, there's 30% of the electorate, those who voted last week who are with him on everything, if you, again, look at it through the prism of was joe biden fairly and freely elected. so that could help him in a

republican primary, but it could also destroy them in a national general election. so that is what the republican party is grappling with right now. >> yeah, especially after tuesday night. >> yeah. >> you heard our interview with senate majority leader chuck schumer. we asked about whether or not biden is more empowered to run in 2024. he said that's up to him, but he will support him if he does run. accomplish shell obama did weigh in on this recently. this is a really interesting comment she made. >> president biden is a good friend of yours. how do you feel he's doing as president? >> i think he's doing a great job, but it's a tough job and i think he's doing the best he can under tough circumstances. >> do you hope that president biden will run again in 2024? >> you know, i will have to see. the reason i don't speak on that is because i know what it feels like to be on the other side of

it, and i think that's a personal decision that he and his family have to make. >> what did you make of that answer? >> very cautious. you can understand what she's saying, is that she's been there, she's done that, and she is personally very close -- they know the bidens so well after serving with them for eight years. but it certainly wasn't a full-throated, i think he needs to do what it takes to go and do everything possible because he's the only guy for the job. that wasn't what she said. this is very, very -- this is a very active debate going on. it's not just on the airwaves. there's an active debate going on within the democratic party. it's kind of tough because people do love joe biden. they do think, especially given what we've seen with the results of the midterms that he's on the

right course when it comes to policies, but there is concern just to sort of talk about the elephant in the room, about his age. we had david troen, a newly re-elected member of congress, very, very competitive district in maryland. we had him on over the weekend, and he said i love joe biden, i wish he were 30 years younger. i think that speaks to where a lot of democrats are right now. >> don't you think she would be saying it if maybe joe biden had sat it, that if he said, i'm going to run, she would say okay, go for it. >> 100%. >> biden turns 80 a week from yesterday. dana bash, great interviews yesterday. >> this is the first time i've been able to be on your wonderful show. >> what? >> what? dana. >> we'll have you back tomorrow. >> i don't know if you've noticed, but we've been up kind of late. >> we hadn't noticed that, dana. >> thank you, dana. >> love it.

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>> kaitlan, it is a lengthy read out and one that goes into several critical issues, both priorities for president biden and the priorities for president xi but clear objectives that the u.s. raised in a candid manner during this meeting. they were behind closed doors for just about three hours. we're waiting for the president to come out and take questions here. in that readout, the president

spokane diddley and directly about a series of issues, including u.s. objections to what is framed as more aggressive behavior when it comes to high juan and in the taiwan strait specifically. there are areas laid out that are critical given the low state of affairs when it comes to this bilateral relationship, including the idea that both leaders decided senior officials would be i'm powered to being open to lines of communication. also detailing areas where they think they can work together. perhaps notably at the bottom of the statement, the issue of ukraine, why it doesn't frame president xi's reference point or where he stands on the overall issue of russia's invasion of ukraine. they say there's an agreement that nuclear weapons cannot be used and should not be used in ukraine, implicit in that is some of the threats we've seen from president putin. we'll have to see if the president frames or willing to characterize what president xi's responses were to some of the

direct rejections by the u.s. the u.s. laying out a detailed, to some degree, path forward for a relationship that has been at a low point for several months if not longer. >> m.j., a lot of the tough issues that phil noted there that biden did bring up with president xi is notable. it also seems like so much of what the white house was trying to get out of this meeting was having an open line of communication, being able to have this face-to-face conversation that they haven't had because xi has not left china due to the pandemic. what are white house officials telling you about establishing a line of communication between the two leaders? >> reporter: well, kaitlan, keep in mind first of all that the read-out that we just got that phil ticked through in detail, that largely conveys president biden's side of the conversation. what we don't know at this moment is how president xi responded to some of the more contentious parts of this

conversation, for example, taiwan, human rights concerns that the u.s. side raised, economic practices that the u.s. sees as unfair we'll have to see whether there ends up being sort of a he-said/he-said conversation of howe these conversations went down. i think it is very important to remind everyone what u.s. officials before this summit said were the main goals going into this important meeting. they said, one, they want to make sure the two leaders find areas of common practice and agreement, and second they said, kaitlan, as you noted, they want to make sure they can establish open lines of communication going forward. it is pretty clear, even just based on the u.s. side of this summit, the read-out that we just talked about, that they probably did achieve both of those objectives. i think it is -- wouldn't be surprising if we ended up hearing from president biden and other u.s. officials that,

broadly speaking, they did end up seeing this summit as a success. i think, again, just really worth emphasizing we are still waiting to get the chinese side of things -- we'll see whether they are pretty frank about what areas of the conversations ended up being contentious. again, u.s. officials said they would rather have contentious conversations than no conversations at all. >> let's bring in salena in beijing for reactions there. i want to get your reaction and also this question, too, about climate change and what role it played, but reaction there. >> reporter: look, there's still a muted reaction right now. what's important is china has heavily censored media and social media. we've been looking for any reaction. they have censored the hashtag about this meeting on chinese social media and have banned the comments section about this meeting. so very clearly at home china really wants to manage and control the message.

at home very much china has been pushing this narrative that america is a hostile power that is trying to contain and suppress china. what's notable is that internationally we've seen from those opening statements from xi jinping a more conciliatory message towards the united states, towards the world. a positive sign is we did see at least one point of agreement in xi jinping's opening statement, following biden's remarks saying china has a responsibility as a major global power to manage this relationship with the united states. they don't want this relationship to fear into a conflict. china can't afford to have instability right now. they've got major economic challenges here at home that have been compounded by the harsh zero covid policy. it's really hard for them to find any room to move forward here even if it comes to something that they both need work on which is climate change. there's so much hostility and distrust right now, how they move forward from here, the bar is low. it's just about keeping that line of communication open

because global peace depends on it. >> we'll hear in just moments when the president steps up to the mic. >> it will be fascinating to hear what biden says. there's so much riding on this, even if there aren't these massive deliverables, we'll be waiting to see and what president biden himself says that he got a sense of xi as they were in that room together. >> biden expected to step up at any moment to this news conference in bali. you see the podium there. folks are waiting for the president of the united states to step up and give his comments. also, back here in the united states, federal investigators are now looking into a deadly midair collision of two world war ii planes that happened at an air show in dallas. >> did you see that video? oh, my gosh, crazy because you don't expect it.

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federal investigators are now looking into a fatal midair collision, this happened in dallas. two world war ii era military planes hit each other and crashed saturday during an air show, again, this happened in dallas. all six people on these planes were killed. ed lavandera joins us from there. good morning. it's very sad. what are investigators looking at this morning? >> reporter: well, they are trying to figure out exactly what happened, reaching out to whoever might have clues. so many witnesses on the ground as these vintage aircraft were

crisscrossing the sky this weekend here in dallas, when the unimaginable happened before the eyes of thousands of people. a tragedy in the sky, two world war ii era military planes collided midair during the wings over dallas air show, killing all six people on board the planes. the horrifying video footage shows the planes breaking apart midair, then hitting the ground and bursting into flames. one witness described the scene. >> it was just an awful feeling. and then, of course, you saw the big clouds of smoke, black smoke, that billowed up. >> reporter: the national transportation safety board has an investigative team on site trying to determine how the boeing b-17 flying fortress and the bell p-63 kingcobra crashed. the planes did not have a black box on board, leaving investigators relying on witnesses to come forward with photos and video. >> we don't have any flight data

recorder data or cockpit voice recorders or anything like that. it would be very critical to analyze the collision and also tie that in with the air traffic control recordings to determine why the two aircraft collided. >> reporter: the b-17, the larger of the two planes, is a famous world war ii aircraft, most well-known for the daylight bombing raids over europe. the other plane was an extremely rare p-63 single seat fighter plane. the two vintage planes were among only a handful of air-worthy versions left flying worldwide. the allied pilots association identified two b-17 crew members as terry barker and len root. barker was a former city council member from keller, texas. keller's mayor confirmed his death writing in a facebook post, even after retiring from serving on the city council and flying for american airlines,

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the people who were at this air show this weekend. >> so many people with their kids i'm sure as you note. ed, thank you for the reporting. our thoughts with all their families. we are still waiting for president biden, he is about to take the podium and answer questions from reporters right here at the g20 in bali. stay with us. . and there's never been a better time to switch. get our best offers of the year on business internet. help your business stay ahead with the reliable connection your business deseserves. book your appointment today. and switch to the network america a relies on. verizon. new projects means new project managers.

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since biden took office today. of course, that is that meeting that happened just ended a few moments ago between president biden and president xi. we are waiting for president biden, he is expected to walk out any moment now to answer questions from reporters about what happened behind closed doors. it's really remarkable because this is the first time they are actually meeting in-person. they have spent a lot of time together when biden was vice president. this is their first time since biden has taken office. >> it's also interesting that biden comes into this with the momentum from the midterms, right? and xi comes into this with such a tight grip on power, right? so you've got these two leaders feeling pretty powerful with very different views on really significant things coming face-to-face. >> well, the question is that line of communication that biden is touting there, if it's actually real or not because they don't talk very often and it has been suggested by at least one person on this program that perhaps -- >> oh, the two-week thing. >> that they should speak every two weeks so that they could actually get something done.

is it real? because, kaitlan, as you and i have spoken about, climate change is a huge issue for both men, being, you know, two of the largest countries in the world and two of the largest emitters of pollution in the world and if they can -- can they really talk about these things and they don't actually discuss them. and so how -- what does that mean for lines of communication? how real is that? >> and that's a big one that has such maimer implications. they should be talking about it, but all of these other issues are clouding that. taiwan, technology, ukraine, all of these basically different visions of what the world order should look like. and xi -- and after he got that control, he is one of the most powerful chinese presidents we have seen in our lifetimes. he talked about he had a very different world view of what -- the threat he sees from the united states. >> oh, yeah. >> and that's been a big question. you know, they don't expect he's going to make any crazy headlines but these officials in the situates are scrutinizing

what he has said in these meetings so closely. small differences that are really big implications if you talk to u.s. officials. >> and really about sharing space in the world as we heard just a little while ago. was it david sanger who was on? >> yeah. >> who wrote an op-ed about this or wrote an article about it saying this is really about sharing space and whether they can share power. >> and, you know, as tom freidman was talking about friday autocracy versus democracy. >> which we have been -- which has been on the ballot. >> there you go. >> the senate majority leader. >> one thing looming over this, this is the g20 summit all the world leaders are gathered in bali, putin dropped out, he didn't go. it took some of the drama out of this meeting but it's interesting. >> we will continue to follow live here on cnn. we thank you for watching cnn this morning. we hope that we would get you to the president here a little bit of -- you will get t you won't miss t thanks for joining us. we will see you tomorrow morning. cnn's special coverage continues right now.