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"outfont" breaking news, we're moments away from a big drop of votes that could determine who wins the arizona governor's race. it is election night in america continued, and arizona's largest county maricopa is expected to release its big drop. new numbers within the hour. this is according to bill gates, the top election official there. as of right now 85,000 to 95,000 votes still need to be counted in maricopa county so if we're going to get a big bulk that have that's hugely significant that. has tensions running high and authorities bringing in extra security because arizona, of course, is home to the neck and neck governor's race between kari lake and the democrat katie hobbs. lake trails hobbs as you can see by 24,719 votes, but what did i just say? massive drop coming. 85,000 to 95,000 votes outstanding. the question is will this race be called tonight? lake, who, of course, is an election denier, is on the record saying this as the votes are being counted.

>> i have very little faith in some of the people that are operating that maricopa county elections. i think they are incompetent. >> as i said that, drop expected within the hour. this is a crucial night in arizona, but it is just one of a number of races that are too early to call at this moment. control of the entire house of representatives is still up for grabs. this is six days after election day. democrat, of course, need to secure 218 seats to control all the power in washington, but while that is not impossible, democrat chances of getting that power are narrowing tonight. there is a lot to get, to so let's go to arizona, but we'll begin in colorado because that's one of the closest house races playing out right now that could determine the entire balance of pour. john king is also with us tonight. i want to start with you in phoenix, kyung. look, this is a crucial night. kari lake's campaign is watching this. this could be the night where we really get the number of votes

in to determine who wins that race. >> this is a very big deal. according to maricopa county and a press conference that wrapped up a short time ago what election officials tell us it's going to be a big deal. they are basically going to be reporting nearly everything they have. it will be all of the early ballots that were dropped off on election day. what they will not be reporting, and this is a loose number, about 10,000 to 15,000 ballots still in a curing process or provisional ballots. an exact number we cannot tell you until that report comes out but essentially we'll be getting almost everything out of maricopa county, the largest county here in the state of arizona. it is the big one that all -- that the two women who are running for governor are expecting could sway the race their way, so, erin, until this comes out, we can't tell you what it is going to say, but it will be hugely significant in

just about an hour, erin. >> i mean, this is, you know, days and days and we're finally possibly there. kyung, are there concerns about how lake supporters may respond if she doesn't wings, and in fact about what she could say? >> reporter: well, i'm going to let the actions of the sheriff's department answer that question for you. what i can tell you we are seeing here at the elections department, and this is a building where workers count the votes. this is the hard part of democracy, the tedious parts where you count the votes individually or they are tabulated. what we are seeing are about 20 to 25 deputies around this building. they are on top of the building they are on the ground. we see a drone up. sheriffs deputies are lining and wringing this building and the sheriff says there is a reason why. here's what he told us a short time ago. >> i think we're getting close to end game so i want to make sure that we're prepared because

a big part of our plan has been help god people be good. if you so that this is not a place where it's appropriate to come and create unrest, then you're less likely to put yourself in harm's way or others so we're going to heighten the level and we're going to stay committed through until we feel as though this election is concluded. >> now the sheriff was very specific that there wasn't a specific threat on this building. it is simply the timing, what he anticipates will be a very significant report in an hour. erin? >> thank you very much, as we're counting down to that. in these next moments. let's go now to the one of the tightest and most high-profile races in the house. as i said, still up for grabs-ins terms of democrats or republicans. if democrats pull this out, they would control all the levers of power, but the path is narrowing and republican congresswoman and trump dark backed election denier lauren boebert in colorado is clinging to a lead of 1,100 votes in her district,

less than half a percentage point ahead of democrat adam fritsch with a race too close to call. let's go on the ground with lucy kafanov. it's incredibly close that has gone back and forth. how much longer before we know who the winner is? >> reporter: that's right, erin. nearly a week after election day, still a nail-whiter of a race the outcome of which is not likely to be known until thursday or friday at the earlier. boebert is ahead by roughly 1,100 votes. now if they are separated by .5% or less once everything is in and at all ed, that actually triggered an automatic recall under colorado law which would curb the recount until december. the losing candidate could request a recount but they would have to pay for it. the overseas ballots can be accepted until late wednesday night as long as they were

post-marked by november 8th. there's also the rejected ballots where, for example, the signature might not match voter records. those have to be fixed or cured. that deadline 11:59 p.m. on wednesday and with so much at stake we have national democratic and republican groups and volunteers in the third district trying to find these voters whose ballots need to be cured. again though, the fact that this race remains so close is one of the biggest surprises of these mid terms. the third congressional district is -- hasn't elected a democrat to congress since 2008. it was made even more solidly republican when its borders were redrawn last year. boebert's seat was considered safely republican, so for now this showdown continues. the race remains too close to call. one of 19 closely contested unresolved contests that we're watching that could determine the balance of power in the house. erin? >> lucy, thank you very much. lucy talks about these 19 rations. when will we find out which party controls the house? mean, this is a crucial

question. if democrats are able to pull this out, you know, they have all the levers of power. the path though is narrowing and narrowing and with surprises like what lucy is talking about, even on rations being this close, the question is still out there. john king is out front in the magic wall. the path for democrats to control the house. it is not impossible, but it is getting narrower tonight, isn't it? >> it, and well not know the answer tonight, erin, so let's walk through some of the math and i'll take you to lucy's district. not as beautiful in the magic woman as it is in the live shot. republicans right now are ahead. they have ahead in 2022 races, if the count doesn't change at all republicans would have a narrow majority but let's look at the called races, that's what matters most, 212 for the republicans and 204 for the democrats, there you have t.mathematically possible still for the democrats to overcome that lead. >> right. >> so as lucy just noted, let's go to the map that matters absolutely most. 19 races, 19 races yet to be

called. ten of them, erin, are in california. mail ballots can come in in california until tomorrow so if it comes down to the ten races in california, it's going to take a little bit. there are several on this board that could possibly come off tonight. there's two in arizona. you just mentioned the governor's race, more votes there may be in the congressional races there as well. the new mexico race will be called soon, flaps new york race but not enough to make up the difference, so lucy was just right here in lauren boebert's district. these numbers haven't changed in quite some time. they are waiting for the overseas and milt ballots and they keep a small number, they keep a small number of other ballots so you can't tell the direct identities of somebody who might decide to involvement you may know some of the people overseas so they do that for privacy purposes, so then you come out here, alaska and maine have ranked choice seating, those states are likely to say democratic but they don't begin second choice and third choice until later in the month and it could come down to the races in california. here's one, david valadello,

holding on, 2,900 votes but only 40% of the estimated vote so a long way to go. look north of him, john dwurty's district, only 84 votes ahead, certainly within the realm of possibility. israel there enough seats in the realm of possibility, but let's be honest. with the republicans now at 212 you need to get to 218, the most likely scenario is a very, very small republican majority, but it may take us days, maybe even a little longer than that to know the final numbers. >> so you mentioned arizona, and obviously, you know, we rex pecting that major drop. they don't anticipating updating after today with the press conferences, right. this is it, kyung said. this is maricopa county, obviously pertaining specifically to the governor's race in that context. what are you watching for in arizona tonight?

>> number one, if you look at the map here, two uncalled governor's race, one is alaska, rank choiced voting, second and choice of the candidates below 50%. the other one is arizona. what am i looking for, how many votes do we get out of maricopa county and out of pima county and is that enough to make a projection? if you look at the result right now with kyung, katie hobbs is ahead by 24,719 votes, kari lake at 49.5 and hobbs apt 50.5. when the new votes come in statewide, kari lake needs to probably get 55%, 57% somewhere in that ballpark so when we get the big major drop of votes from maricopa county, the largest outstanding batch of votes still to be count, when we get those, is kari lake running anywhere near that numbers. that's where it matters most. getting 48% in maricopa count toe 52 for katie hobbs. kari lake has to be closer to 55% when the votes come in and see if she's matching that mum and there are more votes in pima

county, not as many in maricopa. pima, the second largest county, maricopa the largest county, when you pull out and look at the map, they are both blue. katie hobbs has been leading in both of those counties. if she leads in the remaining vote installment she's the next governor. if not later installments, you know, kari lake can come back the math gets interesting. we are expecting the maricopa votes in the next hour. that's the biggest sign. will it be enough to protect the race? up clear. mathematically are there enough if they break one way? yes. will they? we'll know in an hour or so. >> thanks very much, john king as we watch that. just a little bit over 40, 45 minutes here until we expect that very significant development out of arizona. and next, former vice president mike pence breaking his silence tonight about whether the man that he loyally served for four years should ever be president again. >> that's up to the american

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in our house, prayerful consideration. >> do you believe you can beat donald trump? >> well, that would be for others to say and it would be for us to decide whether or not we'd want to test that. >> so if you decide to run and he's up there, so be it? >> so be it. >> our chief political analyst gloria borger and david urban ashes longtime strategist a senior adviser to the trump campaign and bakari sellers, former member of the south carolina house of representatives. how significant is it to hear these comment from pence literally 24 hours trump may announce he's running for president again and days after trump's major mid-term lowe's losses? >> i think it's very significant. i think mike pence was a very loyal vice president, and in this interview you hear him calling the president rec hess, saying he endangered me and my family. that he was filled with indignation and that he can't

account for what the president was doing that day. he said i was at a loading dock at the capitol and never heard from him. he's got a book coming out. he is telling this story is to the american people and he's decided whether or not donald trump is in or out. he'll probably run against the man whom we all used to say we all stand on donald trump's strong shoulders. remember those words. i don't think he's going to be saying that anymore. >> no, no. >> no. >> david, the question is why is pence doing this now? >> well, look, as gloria points out, right, he has a book coming out, and i think that was planned long before donald trump's announcement tomorrow one way or another and the poetic justice that he gets to rain on his former boss' parade a bit and remind people that the secret service is whisking him out of the capitol to chants of hang mike pence, his former boss

was sitting at the other end of pennsylvania avenue doing nothing about it, and, you know, mike pence is reminding everybody of that fact tonight and tomorrow and all woke. >> right, trump's got that big announcement tomorrow night, bacarri. he certainly plans to announce he runs tomorrow night. that's the plan. we'll see what he koss because that plan was set before the mid terms and, you know, we'll see, but this will be had a moment no matter what, and i want to play the former first lady michelle obama because she has a book. she's reading an excerpt when it when she talks about trump. let me play it. >> it shook me profoundly to hear the man who replaced my husband as president openly and unapologetically using ethnic slurs, making selfishness and hate somehow acceptable, refusing to condemn white supremacists or to support people demonstrating for racial justice. it shocked me to hear him

speaking about differentnesses as if it were a threat. it felt like something more, something much uglier than a simple political defeat. >> so bacarri, what happens if this all starts up again tomorrow night? >> oh, man, i -- i am kind of dreading the next two years of having to deal with the unpredictability, the lack of sensibility, the using raumcisms political currency. i think the words you heard echoed by michelle obama are the way many people, many women, many poem of color and many people who are put upon daily. my grandmother would always say. there were many of us who fell on the into andrew. 's election and her word echoed

the feelings that many of us had that day. i think you saw the fight emblematic in 2020 in joe biden's election but also last tuesday. i just want to comment briefly, erin, about mike pence because mike pence isn't raining on donald trump's parade. he doesn't have nearly the bullhorn. he's on a book tower but if tomorrow donald trump announces for president nobody is going to remember who mike pence really was. >> well, this is -- you say it quite boldly there and baldelli, yes. that's the big thing. trump knows he's going to take the bully pulpit tomorrow, whatever he'll do with it. david, the question is what he'll do with it. the calls from gop to move on from trump have gotten loud. they have gotten right because they have this really terrible and pathetic and up pecksed loss handed to them. republican congressman mo brooks. he spoke at trump's stop the steal rally. played the sound bite hundred of times. trump endorsed brooks for senate until he unendorsed him so brooks is saying now it would be

a bad mistake for the republicans to have donald trump as their gnome nominee in to 24. he's province himself to be dishonest, incompetent, crowd and a lot of other things that alienate so many independent and republicans and he's not alone in sound willing the alarm. here are just a few prominent gop members in the past few days. >> president trump had to insert himself and that changed the knoch of the race and that created just too much of an obstacle. by the way, it's not just pennsylvania. all over the country there's a very high correlation between maga candidates and big losses or at least dramatically underperforming. >> trump's cost us the last three elections and i don't want to see it happen a fourth time. >> what republicans came to grips with tuesday night was we're tired of losing and tired of donald trump dragging to us lose because of his personal vanity. >> they have their own reasons for saying this now and what

does it mean about trump when you add it all together? go it's clearly not a straight path like he thought it was going to be, right. in pennsylvania specifically, you know, a state that i'm tied to very closely, i mean, the hand wringing and nashing of teeth and barbing of donald trump hasn't stopped since tuesday night. it's really bad for the former president. i'm not quite sure, you know, if anybody is telling him that because it's very, very us mennant for him if he's going to go back to the commonwealth. he's not welcome in a lot of places he was welcome and it's going to be a completely different path forward so i don't think that the party is where it was is as welcoming for him as he thought it was going to be. there's a poll out this afternoon by the club for growth in pennsylvania and all these different states that shows ron desantis way -- with a substantial heated over trump and that's changed just in the past, know, week or so, and i think it's a message from the

club and from others, that you know, got to find a different candidate? and we sure know that desantis gets under trump's skin, right? >> he'll be -- he'll be talking tomorrow night at, you know, rga, giving a speech as well. >> desantis versus trump again. gloria, does it feel different this time? >> that's a really good questions erin. it does, but i remember after january 6th lindsey graham on the floor of the senate saying i've had enough. this is it, and a lot of other republicans including perhaps the soon-to-be speaker mccarthy getting up on the house floor and saying this is it. now the numbers are increasing, and i think it's about self-preservation. that's the difference now. they returned to donald trump after january 6th because they thought he had the support and they couldn't leave without him. now they have discovered maybe they can't live with him and so

if they want to win, if they want to win re-election perhaps they have to desert him. the only thing to keep in mind is that if this is a very big republican primary, donald trump could do very well. he did in 2016. >> thank you all very much and, okay, we'll see what he has to say tomorrow and then on wednesday there will be a cnn town hall with the former vice president pence. all right. coming up next, ""outfront,"" president biden and xi jinping meeting face to face for the very first time since biden took office. look, the real fear is what's going to happen with taiwan. xi telling the chinese military to, quote, prepare for war. and jay leno hospitalized. the comedian suffering burns to the face after one of his many cars burst into flames. (customer) that is something g else. (burke) get a whole lot of something wiwith farmers policy perks. ♪ we are farmers. bum-m-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum

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taiwan to resolve their differences peacefully. xi countering that taiwan is a, quote, red line issue that the united states must not cross. selena wang is "outfront" tonight from beijing. >> reporter: u.s. president joe biden's first face-to-face meeting since taking office with chinese leader xi jinping. >> translator: i look forward to working with you, mr. president, to bring china-u.s. relations back to the track of healthy and stable growth. >> after the meeting, biden tells the press -- >> i do not think there's any imminent attempt on the part of china to invade taiwan. >> reporter: but despite the optimistic tone an smiles, the possibility of armed conflict still looms. xi just days before wearing camouflage uniform at a military command center in beijing telling china's army to prepare for war. his visit met with excited applause from top military officials. beijing has stepped up pressure

on self-ruled democratic taiwan after house speaker nancy pelosi visited the island in august firing repeat the missiles and encircling taiwan in a practice block aid. she vowing to reunify the island that china sees as a breakaway province using force if necessary. yes, we have a commitment to do that. meanwhile biden infuriating beijing with his repeated comments that america would come to taiwan's aid in the event of a chinese invasion. washington promises to brief taiwanese officials on the outcome of the biden xi meeting angering beijing even more. >> this is truly egregious an china firmly rejects this. >> state media writing facts show that the u.s. understanding of the red line. china-u.s. relations is far from adequate. that tense atmosphere a far cry from the smiles and warm handshakes during their many

meetings back when biden walked his president. >> i've spent time with him more than any other world leader. i knoll him and he knows me. >> reporter: that personal relationship not enough to bridge the chas many between the two countries, the biden administration labeling china as america owes most consequential geopolitical challenge, enacting sweeping restrictions that choke off china owes access to advanced computer chips. beijing sees all of this as washington is spraying to suppress its rise as show aligns himself with other autocratic leaders like russia's vladimir putin. china and the u.s. have agreed to keep lines of communication open between top officials. it could be what stops a miscalculation between the world's superpowers from spiraling into real conflict. >> you saw in the pictures there that xi met with biden without a mask on. china hasized some of its covid restrictions including the amount of time people are required to spend in quarantine facilities but for the chinese

people not much has changed. a lot of areas have stepped up restrictions as cases rise. a recent pcr test still required to enter public places and restrictions come at a moments eats notice and in fact even after i got out of the ten-day quarantine proving where i had been because my health papp was preventing me from going anywhere so daily lives dictated by the whims of zero covid, erin. >> slopea, thank you very much from beijing tonight skroorks i want to go to tom friedman, the pulitzer prize winning columnist at the nips and author canwest the world is flat 3.0, a brief history of the 21st century." well, tom, as selena is reporting, it just shows, right, she just days ago appeared wearing those military fatigues telling soldiers to quote, prepare for war. it was symbolism with a significant mete meaning. is it truly at point when you see things like this just a matter of when if not if china invades taiwan? >> well, you have to worry, erin, because china's been in an

economic slump. it growth has been slowed to 3% after years of 6%, 7%, 8% and we know from history one way to take people's attention away from declining economic growth is with foreign operations, foreign military operations, so you really have to worry. i can't read his mind. i don't know what he's thinking, but i think it would be very unwise to do that right now given what has happened in ukraine and how badly the russians have been harmed, but who knows. >> i mean, after the meeting, you know, of course, as you know, biden said that xi understood the american position which is that any conflict with china and taiwan need to be resolved peacefully and then biden said this. i'll play it. >> i'm convinced that he understood exactly what i was saying. i understood what he was saying. >> okay. but xi said after the meeting that peace and an independent taiwan are irreconcilable.

peace and an independent taiwan irreconcilable. clearly xi doesn't care what biden said. >> but he'll care if he loses his biggest export markets in the united states and the european union. that would be no joke. that's what's happened to russia. that's would be what happened to china in a much bigger way. one can't read his mind, but i think that are clear deterrents in the father future but because of his open situation at home he may feel the need to do something. we best serve taiwan, we, america, by the less we talk about it the better. >> the less we talk about it the better. keep it off so xi doesn't even feel it in his face. >> turn taiwan into a porcupine by arming it militarily, very quietly so every day xi wakes up, measures the economic cost and looks at the economic costs, he space taiwan, nah, not today.

that's the best way we help taiwan. >> all right. so then in the context of all of this, is xi's -- you know, iron grip on power, unbelievable what we've seen happen, and there's been no information at all, tom, on the condition or whereabouts of the former chinese president hu jintao. he was escorted out of that meeting at the big vote. hu was in there trying to read from it a stack of papers and was sort of covered up by a red folder and blocked by one. highest ranking officials in the party. he was then physically lifted up by another map who was getting instructions from xi just moments before he lifts hu up and ref moves them and the government says he has a health issue. we haven't seen or heard from him in more than three weeks. what do you think is going on here? >> look, this is a one-man system in which the one man has an iron grip on the country, and he's tightened that grip even more as a result of his now

elevation to a third term, but i think the big danger for him, erin, is that, you know, if you look at this question of semiconductors if we can talk about that for a sec. why does taiwan, this little barren rock in the sea have the biggest semiconductor company in the world and china can't make semiconductors anywhere near as well as tsmc. it's trust. the world's biggest tech companies actually trust them with their intellectual property and leverages itself to improve itself and deliver better products for all of it customers. trust is so important today with these global supply chains and everything xi is doing is undermining that kind of trust. that will really work against china's economic future. >> well, yeah, certainly when you know you have people that just disappear. no transparency and certainly no trust. all right.

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we're standing by for what election officials say is a huge drop of new votes in arizona where the race for governor is still too close to call. democrat katie hobbs has a narrow lead over republican kari lake who has been an election denier. so far democrats have been successful in defeating other election deniers. "outfront" right now is the arizona secretary of state elect and former top election official in maricopa county. i really appreciate your time. let me just ask you in terms of where we are now.

i know any minute now literally in the next couple of minutes we could get a big vote drop from pima county, home of tucson and maricopa coming any minute. you're intimately familiar with the vote-counting process there, and we do expect they say, 85,000 to 95,000, we'll get all the final votes in tonight. do you expect there will be a call in the governor's race tonight? >> i think there might very well be given the buffer that tucson is going to potentially provide for secretary hobbs in that governor's race. it's a democratic strong hold. we got tons of support down there and obviously very grateful for that, and maricopa is much more competitive depending on where those ballots actually come from. the call could very welcome tonight. look, arizona election officials have been doing an amazing job be and one of the things is that we have to temper expectations. we have a very good election system here. it doesn't take -- it's not quick, as quick as the media would like, but it's thorough

and diligent and i applaud the work that they have done. >> you obviously are now the secretary of state-elect. your opponent, the republican mark finchum, has not conceded this race yet. do you expect he ever will? >> you know, if he's consistent with what he has done which is really destroy confidence in systems, run against regular american political norms and be sort of an outsider in the worst possible way, no, i don't expect his concession but quite frankly i don't need it. we have the will of the voters, the consent of the coverage governed is on our side in this race and once he have the final canvasses and everything is done and certified i'll be very happy to succeed secretary hobbs on seventh floor of the executive tower and serve every arizonan regardless of their political bent with my level best efforts. >> now you've said that the vote-counting process in arizona is solid and, of course, it is

in terms of, you know, getting accurate results. it just takes time. kari lake has vocally questioned the vote-counting process itself. here's what she just said this weekend. >> well, they are dragging their feet and they are slow-rolling the results and they are trying to delay the inevitable. this is just an embarrassment and the people of arizona are sick and tired of elections being run like we're in some banana republic. >> secretary-elect, are you worried about her supporters may respond if she ultimately loses? >> no, frankly, i'm not because they are in the minority. i think arizona voters have spoken loudly in senator kelly's race, in my race. they want normalcy. they don't want people hurling insults at their fellow arizonans, and let's just be honest. the people that she's talking about are republicans. they are democrats. they are independence, they are neighbors. they are people who want our democracy to prevail. they are serving this republic with honesty and integrity, and

for her to be hurling insults out there the way that she has done, it's very disappointing, and i hope, you know, if she does become governor that she eel change her tune regarding the way had a she addresses her fellow arizonans in order that she can become an effective leader if that becomes the case. >> secretary-elect, states make their own rules on elections, right, and they do it their individual way. bill gates, the top elections official overseeing the count in maricopa county sort of went bullet by bullet comparing arizona to florida to say, look, i know that they have early voting. i know they have mail-in and i know they get their results right away and we don't and explaining why, all right. so it all makes sense and what you're doing is by the book and you get an accurate count. do you think though in your new role that you're going to push towards changes and procedures that could make arizona count more quickly? >> frankly no. there's no reason to. just because we're living in a

world of instant gratification doesn't mean we should sacrifice accuracy, accountability and security so that folks can, you know, click away. the bottom line is this. arizona's election systems are solid, and we've been doing a real good job for a long, long time. the very big difference is we don't have enormous margins anymore. we don't have a senator john mccain winning by five points. that's just on the results. we've done it well for a long time and until i hear a real good reason why i should speed it up other than the example, forgive me, the mead yeah, i think we'll keep doing what we're doing and do it well. >> so former president obama campaigned in arizona in the final days before the election, and he was specifically talking about the issue of democracy, election denialism, and he had this warning. >> nokes can win if we don't do our part, and if you've got election deniers serving as your

governor, as your senator, as your secretary of state, as your attorney general, then democracy as we know it may not survive in arizona. that's not an exaggeration. that is a fact! >> so far you've won. you defeated an election denier blake masters who also said that 2020 was a fraudulent race. he lost his race as well. so has arizona now past this moment? >> i don't think we've passed this moment. i think blake masters, we're in that neighborhood, so we've got a lot of work ahead of us. this isn't a one and done sort of exercise. the cancer that is is election denialive, the disease that's pervaded over the last couple of years for all the wrong reasons has to be flushed out bit by bit. it's going to take a long time for a lot of folks to regain confidence that they should never have lost in the first

place in our election system. i'm proud to do that work as well as i can working with the coalition of independents and republicans who came forward in my campaign to help us bring reason and some truth in these processes. we're going to work together, and we're going do our best to make shower that arizona gets back on tract. >> secretary of state-elect, thanks very much. i appreciate your time. >> thank you so much for having me. out of arizona, as the secretary of state elect was wrapping up here, we got that big drop of votes from pima county, arizona's second largest home to tucson. officials have just released the results of more than 24,000 ballots and if you look at our board here, katie hobbs, the democratic candidate for governor has expanded her lead by a few thousand votes. let's get to the bottom of this, see exactly what happened. john king is there to break it

all down. john, how many votes did we get in and what exactly happened to the margin? >> to be exact, since i was here at the top of the show, katie hobbs increased her lead by 4329 votes. 4329 votes. how did that happen? the largest new votes came in from pima county right here. this is the second largest county in the state. some 20,000 plus votes came from pima county. kari lake did not meet her target. she needs more votes than katie hobbs does. kari lake needs 55, 56, really closer to 57% of the remaining vote. in addition to people a, three other small counties came in, two of them where the republican is leading. four county reports in the last few minutes, katie hobbs came out on top of all four of those new vote reports. pima was first. katie hobbs leading with 61% in pima county to 39%. if you pull out again the statewide lead is now 29,048,

from 24,000. in addition, in the last 15 minutes or so a small number of votes came in in yuma county. salt lake is on top. in the modest new votes katie hobbs. but just antibody little bit more. kari lake needs to be in the lead by a significant margin in every one of these trorps catch up. she was not in yuma county. she was in cochise county. again, she is leading in the key overall, but in the latest vote installment, small number of votes, katie hobbs on top. also a small amount of votes from apache county here in the northeastern corner of the state. katie hobbs came in on top. so what do we get? four reports from four counties, including the largest report from pima county, katie hobbs on top in every one of them. what does that mean? at the top of the hour, at the top of the hour we were saying kari lake needed 57% much the outstanding vote to catch up.

well, that number goes higher because she has come in under her target in four counties and we are waiting next hour for a giant vote report from maricopa county. the hill is getting schemer for the republican challenger. the orders are better for the democratic leader at the moment. >> very significant. 85 to 95,000 votes out of maricopa. we expect them coming momentarily, john, of course, and you heard the secretary of state-elect saying he believes that it may be possible to make a call in that race tonight which would mean in these next minutes. we will wait and see that vote drop coming from those four counties. katie hobbs expanding her lead. as we wait, next ukraine's president zelenskyy making a visit to kherson, declaring the beginning of the end of the war, celebrating a victory for ukraine and a major setback for vladimir putin. and up to 320 miles of range on a full charge.

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it's a major setback for putin though he insists it remains ra russian territory. sam kiley joins me from ukraine. amid exuberance and celebration, because there was plenty of that, there is trauma. many people are dead. they don't have power, no running water, not enough food for months and months. what is the realty on the ground in kherson right now? >> reporter: well, as president zelenskyy said today, so far 400 war crimes they have uncovered just in the last 48 hours or so since they've liberated the city of kherson. but of course the russians continue to occupy about 60% of the rest of that province on the other side of the bank of the dnipro river, on the area to the west, the government has

recaptured though. you have got dozens of villages, hundreds of thousands of people having to return to villages that have been destroyed, infrastructure that has been destroyed as president zelenskyy said again today. that means that power systems, communication systems, water systems, broadcasting systems, the internet all destroyed as the russians withdraw. and they withdrew in good order. this was not a rout. this was a tactical withdrawal, if you like, under pressure from the ukrainians. so of course means that the russians are on the other side of the river well within range to attack the incoming civilian population and the military. but from ukraine, as they invest their areas that they have captured. it's a long way from being over. >> large parts of eastern ukraine and southern ukraine are still under putin's control, right, nearly 20% of ukraine, in fact, right, giving, obviously, ukraine this victory in the city

of kherson. what is the next major battle? >> reporter: well, i think what is going to be very interesting is whether the russians can now tie down the ukrainian forces given that they are now separate bid the natural barrier of the dnipro river. if they don't do that, it means that the ukrainians can move their forces to the east around bakhmut in particular. these famous small towns that have been pounded where the fighting has been intense. they could tip it ukraine's way if they get that way. >> thank you very much. and thanks to all of you for joining us. "ac-360" begins now. good eke. within the hour we may be able to project a winner for governor of arizona. we just got what appears to be the last major ballot from pima county. we are waiting to get a similar update from maricopa county whicis