election night is carry-on, cnn calling two more house races in the past hour. the wins bring the gop to 214 seats, just 4 away from getting

control of the house at 218, projecting that democrat katie hobbs will win arizona's governor's race, defeating republican candidate kari lake, a trump ally that has been pushing election lies, who said she would not have certified joe biden's win in arizona. we have cnn political analyst alex burns, and former rnc medications director, ashley allison is back as well. there is a lot happening right now, kari lake is responding already to the idea that she has been called is the one who hasn't won the particular race, she would have some issue with that, but where things go from here. when you think about where we are, a week almost away from the midterm elections, i know it is six days away, but alex, thinking about this, we are still calling races right now, even for those who have been election deniers and at a time

when people assumed the closing argument of joe biden was odd, what does that tell you? >> what it tells you is when election deniers were on the ballot, closely contested races, voters generally rejected them, and that what kari lake does from here is not actually all that important in the democratic process, it is better when candidates concede gracefully and certainly in this powder keg atmosphere of some of the states and municipalities, it can be really dangerous when candidates refuse to concede. but it is important for us in the media to remember, i refuse to concede, those words don't have some legal effect or magic power, if kari lake wants to carry on like this, she is perfectly welcome to do that, but the question is, does she have legal recourse the and that she use it, if the answer is no and no, that is kind of

that. >> it's like in the office, michael scott, i declare bankruptcy, is not how it is actually done but that's fine. senate governors races, thinking about the red wave that never manifested, it's causing a lot of reaction, including ted cruz, pointing the finger at the likes of mitch mcconnell, listen to what he says in his words, truly pistol off. >> let me start off by saying i am so just off i cannot even see straight. >> the country is screwed for the next four years because of this.>> mitch would rather be leader then have a republican majority. if there is a republican who can win who is not going to support mitch, the truth of the matter is, he would rather the democrat win.>> do you agree with him or not? because this is argument you've had certain parts of conservative circles for a few years, jim dement, when he left

the senate to go to the heritage foundation, and he was right that he could be more powerful outside the senate than in it, he said i would rather have 30 real conservatives than a republican majority but it is committee chairs and how you pass things through the senate and house, for that matter, and having 30 conservative senators is nice but it doesn't give you what you need to pass things through. and ultimately mitch mcconnell was right when he said we have a problem with the quality of our candidates, that was true in the house and the senate and the governors races. kari lake should be an example for republicans of what not to do, don't tell your voters to get the hel out of the party, because they're going to do that. >> the idea of who might've been right or may be vindicated in a subtle way is congressman liz cheney, she has been a great deal of discussions and points about the idea of trying to reclaim the republican party, listen to what she had to say when she was speaking at the university of chicago just

a few days ago about what republicans she said need to do.>> do you feel like there is a stiff enough spine of the party to stand up against future insurrections or are we worried about january 6 2025? >> know we definitely need stiffer spines. that is for sure. and i think that elected officials need to understand that words matter. and when you sort of see again and again people accepting things that are indefensible, we watch what happens in our society, when you accept things that you shouldn't, when you tolerate things like january 6, then that can vary easily become the new normal. it begins to be legal. and i think that is a big danger for us.>> and its funny to see her lurking the shadows there because in many ways her shadow was cast on these elections as somebody who even

supported democrats in some instances because she wanted people to understand about democracy being on the line. but her point is that republicans need to have stiffer spines to even compete in future elections. you talk about the long game a lot, do they need stiffer spines and do they have it? >> i don't know if republicans have it or not. i think they need to condemn donald trump across the board. i think the reason why you're seeing the split is because there is still 30% of republicans that support donald trump. the election deniers did not win the election but some of them didn't get blown out. you mentioned, we are a week out and waiting for every single ballot to be counted, because there was such a significant amount of people in arizona thought kari lake should be the governor, and i think that is what liz cheney is speaking to. and when the court says no, no,

you did not win any don't have legal recourse, but we can't make it commonplace where election deniers, with actual candidates, because when they are, a year or so ago, you have people like cyber ninjas wasting taxpayer dollars running sham and fraudulent audits that we know didn't actually need to happen and the results stay the same. and i don't know if republicans will have a stiff enough spine to say no to donald trump, we will see tomorrow after this announcement. >> if he announces. having a spine, the issues and instances, it is contingent on whether the so-called leader of the republican party, donald trump will vie to be the next president yet again. listen to this, a number of people have been saying just today alone that trump is bad for the party, governor >> and larry hogan, listen to this. >> i think one of the messages from election is for republicans generally, is we

need as a party to move past president trump. >> especially the third election in a row that donald trump has cost us the race, three strikes and you're out. >> i think what republicans came to group with tuesday night is we are tired of losing in tide of donald trump dragon is to lose because of his personal vanity. >> he had to insert himself, a high correlation between maga candidates and big losses, or at least dramatically underperforming. >> i mean having said that, will the republican party quit trump? >> would all for those men have in common is that they are not facing republican primary voters again anytime soon. mary larry hogan will run for president in 2024 and we will see. >> the courage for them. >> charlie baker declined to run for reelection rather than face a trump endorsed primary

challenger and that cost the gop really badly in massachusetts. the voices that it is worth watching out for our the republicans who got reelected this month without playing the trump game. right? someone like brian kemp in georgia, trump made it his personal mission to destroy him because he didn't try to overturn the 2020 election, and at first brian kemp demolished david perdue in the republican primary and beat stacey abrams by solid margin, does someone like him speak up and say i know how to win, i've done a better than donald trump and it's time for the party to move on. he hasn't said that kind of thing, that's the kind of voice, mike dewine in ohio and in texas, greg abbott, people who are closer to the center of the republican party rather than the center of the country which is where charlie baker is, that would send a pretty

powerful message to republican voters. >> when he says don't come to my state georgia for herschel walker? >> i don't think he says that pacemaker i think he knows that but speaking out about issues surrounding donald trump, when he actually did win the presidency, former first lady michelle obama speaking this evening and partially from her new book, the light that we carry. >> it shook me profoundly to hear the man who had replaced my husband as president openly and unapologetically using ethnic slurs, making selfishness and hate somehow acceptable, refusing to condemn white supremacists or support people demonstrating for racial justice. it shocked me to hear him speaking about differentness as if it were a threat. >> what's fascinating about that doug, none of those things

counted him out. as somebody who was still favored by millions of voters. a lot of what she described happened before he got millions of votes for the presidency a second time around. would you think, if anything may change between tomorrow and 2024, if he chooses to run? >> i think the only thing that really changes his whether or not there are real options. we've heard criticism of trump but never follow with anything concrete after that. to some of the republicans that alex was talking about further, ron desantis, a topic of the day, are they going to run, mike pence is may not just a lot of noise lately, but new noise, is he going to do anything? at a certain point, criticizing trump is the good and proper thing or quite often they say they didn't see the tweet or truth social or what have you, criticizing is one thing but what are you actually willing to do. so far the answer is not much.

by a large. >> the words of ron desantis, more and more, for more with michelle, michelle obama, just seems familiar to people, make sure you tune in, because sarah, she's wonderful as well, they conversation with michelle obama, clooney and gates, airing this sunday night at 8:00, can't wait to watch that. and new tonight, rudy giuliani will face federal charges over his activities in ukraine, prosecutors saying the judge overseeing the investigation, telling them they're closing the case and no criminal charges will be brought, investigating whether he violated for lobbying laws operating on behalf of ukrainian officials when he pushed for the ouster of the then u.s. ambassador and urged ukraine to investigate joe biden and his son hunter, but this is not the only legal

threat he is facing as you know, dominion voting systems found a billion-dollar defamation lawsuit for his unfounded election fraud claims and also been told he's been a target of a criminal investigation in fulton county, georgia, investigating trump's efforts to sway the election in his favor. up next, one of the big winners in the swing state of michigan, how he is making history. how could you? wake up to a new you. with mucinex nightshift, it's not cold and flu season. it's always comeback season.

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democrats are celebrating key wins in michigan, for the first time in almost 40 years they have what's called the trifecta, they control both houses of the state legislature and the governor's office, joe tate is making history as the first black speaker of the house in the state of michigan, mr. tate, how are you speaker?

bigger i am doing well laura, how are you? bigger doing well, not as good as the michigan voters seem to think everything is there, voted to enshrine voting rights in the state constitution, 60% of voters voting to approve proposal two, a voting rights measure, you had both the governor and the attorney general trying to fend off the line 5 pipeline, a lot took place on election day. i wonder, in a place like michigan, what is your big takeaway as to how so much was not only on the ballot but also the stakes, now that you've got this sort of blue trifecta? >> absolutely, so you know, voters expressed their power last week, and they wanted the basics, they wanted us to focus on the basics, improving infrastructure, investments in education as well as creating

healthy communities across the state, and that's what democrats offered to them. and they accepted that, now they want us to get things done as we move into next year. and actually get to governing, that is the message that we carry during the campaign season and that we will do. >> on that notion of governing, it can be pretty enticing if you have democrats in charge of both chambers in the governor's mansion, distinct look, we don't have to get a buy-in from republicans, we can just do this on her own, that will alienate a large swath of people that democrats were able to envelop into the fold this time around, but how do you make sure you're on the one hand governing in a bipartisan way with that enticement being there but also to keep it blue, may be in the years to come?>> that's a great question. and my legislative career, focusing on bipartisanship is

certainly paramount. i believe we have greater solutions coming out that way, we are a consensusbuilding organization, but we also have to keep in mind what is more important, which is that the voters said democrats, you're going to have the opportunity to govern because of your message, and what you have been doing with not only what i talked about before with investment in education but also jobs investment, so they want to see us governing. but i will come to the table and work in a bipartisan fashion as much as possible. >> why think it's important to speak to you today, lot is made of congressional elections, and national elections, we know michigan has been a swing state, it went for trump in 2016, biden in 2020, but the idea of

what's happening in the historic nature of the michigan senate going blue for the first time in 40 years, speaks volumes about what happens in the realm of all politics being local. but would also speaks volumes is that history has also been made by your presence as the speaker of the house. i wonder if you have reflected in the time, the whirlwind it is life even for you, are you reflecting on being the first black person to be the speaker of the house in michigan? >> yes, i am. and i know that i come here and stand on the shoulders of others. having this opportunity, there have been many that have come before me, and have paved the way, my family came up from alabama in the early 20th century to find greater opportunities, and they found it in michigan, they settled down, greeley family, and the

community, this opportunity now i understand the responsibility that comes with it. not only being a black man then detroit, and in entire diverse date, make sure that we are working not only for one section, of individuals but looking across the entire state. we are improving the quality of life of all michigan residents. >> living in minnesota, when anyone is from michigan they will show you their hand and point where they are from, and all one-state, i know everyone, a true michigan person, you develop your head and you pointed something out and i applaud anybody, i still love minnesota the best of course but congratulations to you on your victory and look forward to your governing years to

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with a qualifying bundle. president biden's student debt relief plan is in trouble tonight, the district court of appeal, circuit court of appeals, susie, halted the program while they consider a lawsuit from six to be led states that argue that the plan to cancel up to $20,000 in student loans for borrowers exceeds his authority. it will remain paused until either the appeals court or the supreme court of the united states makes a further decision. another setback on an issue that really matters to younger voters, it comes at a time when young voters broke in historic numbers for democrats. favoring the party by 63% in the midterm exit polls.

back to discuss, alex, and ashley, and we know that this was part of a campaign promise, the idea of running, there has been a lot of cynicism about about whether he thought he knew it would pass legal muster or a ploy to entice voters to be there, the cynicism of the rings true but that's a concern that people have raised. given the fact that he ran on it and was able to at least temporarily accomplish it and before the midterm elections, how will this play out in terms of how young voters in particular are viewing the administration's ability to follow through on their promises? >> it is not biden's fault that the court is pausing this executive order. i think it is actually a trump judge pausing this, i think what we will see, particularly if republicans will the house, if i were democrats in the senate, i would bring it to the

floor and dry distinction yet again on the party that is trying to deliver wins for the people in the younger generation and the party that's not. and i would continue to do that on various issues and i think that ashley plays well for the biden administration. he held his promise, reels agreeing to cancel it, -- was agreeing. continuing deposit payment until this is decided in the court, another favorable approach for many people who are suffering from student loan debt . i don't think it backfires on him at all particularly if it is taken to the house and senate. >> i wonder on that point, it was a mission accomplished and now it is somebody else's decision essentially, there are legal nuances here of course is to the why and the idea that the heroes act was intended to be as broadly applied in a national emergency, i can go on to the legal jargon but the voters mostly are going to say hold on a second, the resident was trying to be $20,000 back

another court is telling me i can have it. does the absence of the nuance awareness really benefit president biden? >> i don't know, i think anybody who's telling you how this is going to play out is speculating wildly. we don't know how the president will message around this and we don't know if democrats will do what ashley was suggesting and bring it forward in congress. i don't think they would have a majority in the senate if they did, i don't mean it would have failed, i mean they can't get all 50 democratic senators on board with the plan, in fact some of the very sharply criticized biden when he unveiled it. and is no question that for a certain set of younger voters this was a big signal from the white house that we are on your side) in american politics that kind of signaling can matter, the years of build the wall, with executive orders and emergency actions and the wall is not built, it signals to

voters that i'm on your side, if the court stop me and a land- use issue stops me, you know that i'm on your side. i do think frankly people have plenty of reason to be cynical about the timing and process around this, it was a campaign promise of the president made, a promise that he did not follow through on until he had been president for more than a year and a half and now it is tied up in court, i think people would have pretty perfectly good justification to wonder what is really going on here anyway, but this is not the only issue that young people vote on, and on a whole bunch of other stuff that young people vote on and care about, some things, like climate and abortion rights and gay rights, the president has made a concerted push to send the same signals to that part of the electorate.>> is now a good time to talk about cannabis as being a young issue? yes or no? >> the idea was on the belt as well, including measures on

cannabis for example, to give people understanding, voters in maryland and missouri voted last week to approve legal recreational marijuana, use while three other states rejected the move. i wonder a long line of things, of course president biden has spoken about in terms of pardoning word in terms of trying to grant clemency based relief for people, he has viewed marijuana through a different lens than he did with the ominous crime bill, as just one aside. what does this tell you about these measures being successful in certain states? >> i find it really hard to draw concrete lessons on these bills, because you look these measures, worthy of past is not easy to say this is a red versus blue issue, maryland and missouri have nothing in common politically, missouri has gone more red than your coat is right now other trump. >> this is more of a poppy orange red but that's fine. [ laughter ]>> you got counties

in missouri that went 40 points from obama to trump, massive shifts, you can just look at the tvs and say this is what is going on. but the one thing we that we know is that it is a lot of tax money. >> i was at a joe biden campaign event in nevada where he was going on about how marijuana was a gateway drug, that was a joe biden of the 1990s, that was of calendar year 2019. the journey that he personally has taken on this issue, and the democratic party and i was in missouri, as far as the republican party, it is dizzying how fast it is happen. >> i think it is because of the disparities that we see, we know we lost a whole generation of black and brown people in prison right now because of marijuana use, when you have states where people are making millions off of it, right now politicians are actually catching up to the people. arkansas did strike it down but arkansas still has merit medical marijuana use a lot of

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comedian dave chapelle's comments about the jewish community during his saturday night live monologue are being slammed by some as being anti- semitic, and check out this snl sketch that weight on the firestorm around kanye west and others. acre man oh man, i still can't believe that kanye west messed up all that money, how do you lose $2 billion. >> like a paper shredder. >> he did all of those

interviews making things worse and worse. >> you don't have to say everything that you are thinking all the time to he lost me when he put that white lives matter shirt on. >> or the mess about george floyd. >> exactly. and his comments about jewish people, way off the mark. >> [ laughter ] >> alex burns is back, and political commentator, with ashley allison as well we've seen a lot of the monologue today being played from the opening, i went to play the barbershop portion as well because i think it was a moment that they were trying to convey that it seemed as though black people were not going to comment on anti-semitism, which is a familiar stereotype as well, among how it is viewed universally, i wonder collectively, how you view dave chapelle's monologue and the

appearance, have to speak some level of controversy he was able to how would you view the entire episode? bigger you know, i thought it was funny at times, dave chapelle is odyssey a master comedian, tight, very clever opening monologue but at the end of the day if you break it all down, the parts that were about connie weston carrie irving, where he landed, kyrie irving. and shouldn't have said it, or they stupid to say, but were they wrong, he got a laugh out of it and did it cleverly, that's where he landed i still think that joke, those jokes, relied on perpetuating stereotypes about the jewish community. he has the right to do the comedy that he wants to do but i think people also have a right to point out that he perpetuated stereotypes and >> reporter:. >> jonathan greenblatt, who is the ceo of the antidefamation league tweeted that out to that sense, we shouldn't expect dave

chapelle to serve as society's moral compass but disturbing to see snl not just normalized but popularized, hashtag anti- semitism. wire jewish sensitivities denied or diminished at almost every turn? why does our trauma trigger applause? what did you make of that? >> i would be careful about this because i am jewish and a political reporter, a cultural commentator i'm not that or anything like that, the monologue was obvious enough for me. but at the same time, i don't know that anybody is surprised that when you have dave chapelle on snl this is the cycle that we wind up in, he is a master comedian and obviously at that point his career were he's looking to get a different kind of rise out of people and i think he's funnier when he's working in a different space, i think that was true about his comedy about trans people and true for his comedy about jewish people too.

you know, snl had donald trump on when he was eight republican primary candidate in 2015, well after he had called mexicans a bunch of criminals and rapists, i don't know that we should have super high expectations for the filter of what appears in that program, not to say that the adl is wrong at all but just to say that snl will at times put itself in a position of speaking truth to power and being some kind of dividing line of what's acceptable and not in the entertainment industry but i just don't think they have the record to back that up. maker comedy is not the moral compass necessarily in our society and yet we do have this expectation that comedians are speaking a kind of truth to power in a way that the average person cannot, and yet what the truth is, to your larger point, with the truth is, is what he is being criticized about.

's interpretation of what the truth is as it relates to stereotypes, one point i want you to comment on as well, the very beginning, he read this idea of almost a mea culpa in advance, listen to this.>> i have denounced anti-semitism in all its forms. and i stand with my friends in the jewish community. and that, kanye west, is how you buy yourself some time. >> [ laughter ] >> that is how he began it, in a way it was poking fun at the notion of what i need to say, albeit disingenuously, to get away with whatever comes next, all almost the reverse, people making statements that are anti- semitic and bigoted and discriminatory in a variety of ways but i want you to apologize, and okay i apologize, and the bill not being on wrong, commenting on the notion of cancel culture and the way

that one buys time around it, would you think? figure i thought the monologue was everything i expected to be. i think he's a brilliant comedian, but i thought there were so many other ways though that he could have brought comedy towards kanye and kyrie that didn't require making fun of the jewish community. just like i think their ways, the trans stuff i think is kind of disgusting that he does but i do think the point in thing he did about the apology was a strong critique on where we are with authenticity in our country. and how that i thought was really smart, we allow people to apologize for really heinous things in turn the page, for some folks and then some other people never get a second chance. i thought that was an interesting take but i felt like there was so much more he could have done with that opportunity, and he took the

bait. >> i would to say, it is a significant moment for jewish americans in that you do see a mainstreaming of not just jokes about jewish people but real hateful stuff being said about them and hate directed at jewish people, not just from comedians, you have a former president of united states running around and attacking jewish americans not supporting israel, as if he should be the arbiter of good and bad jewish people, and this weird perspective, grounded in the idea that they should have dual loyalties, and what's wrong with you for not. i think people are right to be sensitive and alert in this moment. and frankly the last couple of years it seems like dave chapelle is kind of a guided missile for those kind of sensitivities. and that's what he has chosen to do and it is his right to do it. >> not just idioms and politics, and corporate

america, i don't want to be dismissive of the rise in hate crimes are the reports of the fbi in the rise in anti- semitism, one of the reasons the barbershop sketch, as if black people are somehow insensitive to the anti-semitism were silently complicit is troublesome to me, as is pointed on the sketch, but did you hear about kfc, the chicken people, the tweeted out something, they have a box of some kind that picks up on commemorative dates and tweet out things around it, you're giving the side i, a screen grab where they were promoting recognition of kristallnacht, the night of broken glass, that many people look at is the beginning of the holocaust, they were essentially saying hey happy this day, come get a chicken sandwich. and i didn't do it, this is what it says, they had to do a mea culpa of this notion, the idea of that, we often talk

about anti-semitism, as prolific and pervasive logistic about the idea that how ignorant one must be, to think that would be a commemoration to associate for a chicken sandwich and come back as the corporate world and say our bad, that was a bought. >> you should know our history before we schedule each week, before we talk, if i can zoom out from dave chapelle, because i think alex is on the something about former president trump here. he has made a succession of comments that traffic in anti- jewish stereotypes. republican jewish coalition in 2015, he said i'm a negotiator like you, 2016 he ran an ad where over the voiceover of global power structure was images of janet yellin and george soros, and later the same ad, you could go on and on,

we have been here on the set, or the studio at different times over the last five years. criticizing president trump for the statement so i think it is fair to also criticize kanye west, kyrie irving, when they play in the same sandbox, and you go back to dave chapelle and say okay again, a tight comedic routine, but to your point, there were other ways to come at that without ultimately landing on kind of, but were they wrong? because that is where some of the criticism is very >> one thing i would say is, i think we have free speech and the first met -- 1st amendment is really important, that we can't normalize speech that hurts people, that is hate speech, and if not checked can lead to violence. we are seeing upticks on hate crimes in jewish america, it starts with leadership and if we allowed to go into a comedic

space and say that's the way to take the pressure down, not when it is at the expense of other people in any community. >> the fact that it merits a laugh or gains a laugh does not somehow make it a joke. you can asked many people who are suffering from the effects of bigotry to this very day. more on this, in a moment too, but the billionaire who owns amazon telling consumers don't buy. that is his words, geoff basals this morning after this. -- jeff bezos. wake up to a new you. with mucinex nightshift, it's not cold and flu season. it's always comeback season.

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