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announcing his now third presidential bid out of florida tonight. but we always have known that this was not the end. it was only the beginning of our fight to rescue the american dream. in order to make america great and glorious again, i am tonight announcing my candidacy for the president of the united states. >> meanwhile, president biden is at the g20 some, trying to shore up support for ukraine, holding an emergency roundtable tonight after poland said a russian-made missile fell on a village at the ukraine border on tuesday, killing two people. poland did not say who fired it. we have more breaking election news. cnn can now project that josh carter, the democratic incumbent in california's ninth district, will hold on to his seat, beating republican tom patty. this week, democrats will control at least 207 seats in the house. but the numbers they, are you
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see, the wind is at the back of republicans, which is 208, 217, one spot left hole that majority. joining me now is cnn political commentator -- and newer hut, and former congressman joe walsh. there's a lot to unpack here. as we see, the wind is at the back of republicans right now. we know that republicans are likely -- it's the lawyer in me that is hedging -- likely to be in the majority. there are questions about who is going to lead. weather is also an announcement tonight. and a lot of what is being said about who might lead the republican party, well, you've got somebody who has been the de facto leader for the better part of two years. so, my question first question to all of you is, are you exhausted already, thinking about all of what's to come, over the last two years? what do you think? >> rest up. rest up. because we could be looking at another two years of this. everybody who wants to write trump's obituary right now is
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doing so at their own peril. i don't give a darn what fox news tries to do. i don't give a darn what rupert murdoch or all the republican donors try to do. donald trump has a hold -- i mean a hold -- on 35 to 40% of republican voters. until and if that ever breaks, he's the leader of that cult. >> now era, when you think about that, certainly, he does have a hold. that is undeniable but he dug did endorse a number of candidates who were not this accessible for the midterm elections. does that mean something? he does have a four-year track record to run on. but he also has the losses that he is now being blamed for, of course, in this election cycle. >> it's a loss that he never acknowledged, that he lost to president biden. the idea that you can turn out voters and by telling them that the system is rigged, they just clearly didn't work. voters, active voters, they care about democracy. they like to participate. and we are seeing even in this presentation today that sense
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of exhaustion just kind of sitting in, right? when trump first ran in 2016, it was a surprise. everything coming out of his mouth was new and different. a couple of years later, he is not an open seat. he is running against a comfortable income bint incumbent president. and he's been out of the game for a bit. he suffered losses and setbacks. and everything we heard him say today was no longer surprising. so, what is he bringing to the table? that is beyond the anger that we are all overcome and have moved past. at this point, what is new that he can bring to republican voters or two independent voters? >> i wonder, though, if we are really pass truly grievance based politics. i don't know that we fully are. but your point is very well taken, that nayyera, makes, stephen, about what is it going to take? what is new and different? and one thing that might be new and different is, does he still have the full, what seems to be, unflappable support of republican leadership, who
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looked at him as, look, the barometer -- i've got to sign on with you, i've got to build an electoral coots. does he have that now? >> his support has been wounded. -- he still has a grip on the biggest slice of the republican pie, if you will. i think you are in a situation here where, to answer your question, no, grievance politics is not over. early in the speech tonight, president trump said, we were a great nation just two years ago, and two years ago from now we will be great again. the implication being that america's only great when he is president, even though i think all four of us would agree at this table that america has never not been great. that's number one. number two is, to your point, he can't be the change candidate anymore, so, that's his biggest that you. meant to congressman waltz's point, don trump is one of the only republican would be contenders who has won two national sustained, to your campaigns. governor desantis has the hot
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hand and senator tim scott a someone who has is waiting in the wings and there's other candidates but none of them knows how to run for president yet. >> by the way, one point i want to raise, and i will get back to you on this point, but one person he does not have is his daughter ivanka trump. because just moments after the former president said that he would run again for 2024, his daughter ivanka released a statement, essentially saying, look, i am opting out. she says, this time around, i am choosing to prioritize my young children and the private life we are creating as a family. i do not plan to be involved in politics. while i will always love and support my father, going forward, i will do so outside the political arena. nayyera, i remember when there was all the conversations of the so-called adults in the room. and the person everyone kept on the speed dial, aside from mark meadows during january 6th, seemed to be, contact ivanka. --
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in some way. that is not fair, whether that was true or not, fully, we don't know. but that is not going to be -- >> and jarred, apparently, between the two of them there were probably three fourths of the trump administration and running the decisions there. but that's part of what we are seeing is that even for his own family members, the shine is wearing off, despite all of the goals that we saw in that assembly, that announcement that he had. the appeal is not the same. so, what can trump do to be a bit different? to set himself apart from other republicans? now to the point about his hold on the republican party, it is absolutely there. but we also saw the trump era drive people out of the republican party if they did not sign up as democrats, they signed up as independents. so, outside of a really raucous republican primary, trump winning the nomination could be a gift to democrats. >> exactly. and you are right. as he has driven people out of the party, that has actually
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strengthened his hold on the party and made it much less likely that he could ever be elected again. >> and you have congresswoman liz cheney, the ambition of political leadership right now, or -- and we are going to have the good knighted committee on january 6th as well. but i still wonder about, not only he could take on the republican, side down trump. i know rhonda santas, he is the shining objects right now, he does not have arguably the most formidable opponent in his gubernatorial race as one would expect in the presidential level. but you still have to have a lot -- the mitch mcconnells who, i don't think, is there. the kevin mccarthy, who is undecided, as to whether he will go in as -- congresswoman stefanik and say, yes, i am all in already but when you look at the leadership right now, in power, in the senate and soon to be the house, does he have the support? >> those who have the support? >> donald trump. that's who i am talking about.
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>> i think he does. number one, the reason everyone already knows is, there are many members of congress who are afraid to costs cross him, because they are afraid of being a little senator x or ron de-sanctimonious or whatever the nickname is. there are -- who don't want to be primaried from their right. they feel that much more than a general election at this point. you have a situation where you want to stay on president trump's good side, so that you don't incur that challenge. >> this situation you have, as a republican right now, republican leader, is, they embrace trump. and this is a direct consequence of several -- down the line of him having taken over the party. >> i want to lightning round here. nayyera, do you think ron desantis is going to run? >> i don't think trump will be opposed. >> -- >> i could see ron desantis running. >> if he has to go, he runs
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>> in the wake of big midterms surprises, leadership battles being waged, well, in both parties. even as control of the house remains undecided fully tonight. kevin mccarthy winning his party's nomination to become speaker, or republicans are just one feet away from the 218 needed to control the house -- this is happening as democrats are facing uncertainty of their
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own at the top, with questions about speaker nancy pelosi's plans. joining me now is representative henry cuellar, a democrat from texas who pulled off a major victory in a very tough election. congressman, i'm glad you are here. welcome. >> it's a pleasure being here with you. what a night, first of all, i know there's a major announcement tonight from the former president. we are going to talk about that. >> but i want to talk about what is happening internally the democratic party right now. the majority is really in it now for republicans. and i understand that there has been based on the very slim margin, there has been an appeal to you of some kind, to be able to maybe consider possibly becoming a republican to pad the numbers. is there any truth to that? >> it is true, but the answer is no. i was born a democrat and i will stay as a democrat. and yeah, there were overtures. but the answer is no. but i saw the numbers that kevin mccarthy had i think, out
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of the caucus he, had he had about -- 31 knows. but he has got a lot of work to do before he can become speaker in january. >> they were appealing to you in some part because you are known as one of the more moderate, members, of course. it's, again, partly about the margins. but is it also indicative of some notion that they are keenly aware of just how important every single vote is and, essentially, also, the importance of more moderate incumbents like yourself? are you seeing that pressure? >> what i am seeing is that, first of, all the internally, the republicans are having trouble. because they are having -- i think they call themselves the freedom caucus. in the old days they were called a tea party caucus. the tea party caucus gave speaker boehner, speaker paul ryan a very hard time. in fact, they could not govern, that is passed the -- legislation without democrats helping them out. so, i think kevin mccarthy, if
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>> there was an announcement tonight from the former president who has made a lot of statement surrounding texas, surrounding immigration, surrounding the border, surrounding crime and talking about policies in place. what is your reaction to the fact that he is now running yet again to be a non consecutive
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president of the united states? >> the american people rejected him in the 2020 election. he is running again. let's see if he can get out of the primary. we will let the republican voters decide that. then in the november election of 2024, there will be another democrat. >> congresswoman congressman henry cuellar, thanks so much for your time. >> thank you. >> election race is losing races all across this country. so, are we seeing a kind of vindication that of congresswoman liz cheney? we will tell you what she is saying about all that next. style! plop plop fizz fizz, with alka-seltzer plus cold & flu relief. also try for fizzy fast cough relief!
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trump's announcement of his presidential run tonight, outgoing republican congresswoman liz cheney appeared at the washington post 2022 global women summit, where she made quite clear that she thinks trump lacks fitness for office. listen to what she said. >> this is certainly not the rollout, i'm sure, donald trump wanted for his announcement tonight. but it is also not the first time he has been totally detached from reality. i think, though, it's also really important for people to look at what is happening and what he's doing, not just through a political lens, but through the basic facts. his total lack of fitness for office, he is unstable. >> -- and now iraq are with me back
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now. -- sergeant and it spoke about what was called the quiet vindication of liz cheney. i don't know how quiet it, is because people are talking about this point. she lost by 32 points in wyoming. and yet she predicted, was quite precedent, about what would happen if the republican party, if they stuck with donald trump. do you see these midterm election results as a bit of a vindication that she was right? >> the message that she and president biden made in their closing statements was about defending democracy, that there is something about country over party that is still salient and relevant, especially at this moment, when you have people who are denying the election on the ballot. so, that part worked. but she does not have a natural constituency. this idea that she could be speaker of the house? she is not going to codify roe v. wade. in no universe is she going to be pro-choice enough for democrats to really support
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her. the republicans are not going to acknowledge what they have already done to her, kicking her out. so, does she pursue that kind of advocacy, issue advocacy path that a stacey abrams had done? or does she pull a runny, where you can be governor in one state, senator in another? there is opportunity for her that is not going to be in wyoming. >> laura, i think it's a bigger vindication from president biden. because i think he got a lot of grief from a lot of smart people. but he kept a boot on this defending democracy issue. and he was right. i listened to liz cheney. and she sounds like me. there is no place in this republican party for her. every word she says about donald trump, 80% of republican voters disagree with her. so, yeah, she has been vindicated as far as democracy goes. but she could not win a republican election anywhere in this country. >> she spoke about, earlier today, talking about the idea of being detached from reality when it comes to don't trump
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and thinking about the worst kept secret of the world, that don trump was going to run again and announce it. here she is earlier today talking about that reality factor. >> the forces of marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar inside the house republican conference are strong. unfortunately, right now, those people who are very destructive and who have done things like espouses white supremacy and antisemitism have a stranglehold on kevin mccarthy. and that means they have got a stranglehold on the conference. so it is going to take, i think, a couple of cycles for us to break that stranglehold. >> in her mind, the reality is, essentially, what we are seeing. the idea that the question we have been asking tonight, david, and beyond, we'll continue to ask -- it would take significant
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gumption to be able to say, look, no, i'm not going to stand by trump. and it might cost -- especially if a slim margin, mccarthy is going to enjoy, if he enjoys it or not, if they reach that 218, which is supposed to do so -- is there that leadership support and the straightening of this binds to say, enough? or is trump going to be able to, essentially, say, look please cheney, thank you for your comments in your commentary, but you don't have the constituency? poof, we gone. >> it's almost an impossible line to walk. what if a republican is going to walk it, i suspect that congressman mccarthy is the one to do it, more so than some of the people that are challenging him. but let me go back to congresswoman cheney for a minute. what you see there in those clips you played is someone who, indeed, has that gumption, he's free to speak her mind. she is a reagan goldwater coolidge conservative. she now can just speak up on behalf of that narrow constituency that does almost
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as not exist anymore and i think -- no one to stick up for that knowing that he was going to lose. but another part of what he did this past year, it reminded me of cersei lana stir lannister when they said, what are you going to do? she said, i choose violence. -- -- and i'm not going to do it. that was the political lesson that she taught, whether or not she goes on to a presidential race. >> -- hq o was told about the reference. very well done. one -- of the reasons that donald trump was still well alive politically, she talked about the idea of not having, essentially, the political coffin nailed, with that impeachment. and here she is talking about this issue as yet one instance, or frankly many, where trump could have been, essentially,
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dismissed. >> if after the house impeached don trump in january 2021, if the impeachment article had immediately gone to the senate and we immediately had a trial, we would be in a very different position than we are today. and i think that decision that was made by a bunch of people to delay that trial until he was out of office, i think, looking back, will prove to have been a mistake of historic proportions. >> will it have the legacy of essentially giving him another lifeline? >> this has been the story over the past 6 to 7 years. donald trump is a monster. but my former political party created this monster. they fed him, they warship him, they bowed at his feet for seven years. liz cheney rightly talks about the second impeachment. what about the first impeachment? liz cheney voted for trump in 2020. a lot of republicans still
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voted for him after four years of an unfit president. what he is doing tonight, laura, they deserve. because the party never stops. >> -- several people who participated in the january 6th insurrection now entering congress with the are r next to their name. so this is part of the republican party and caucus that he is talking about -- that just does not compute with a sense of democracy she is talking about. we >> will see if it's going to compete with the electorate. that who counts in the end. >> thank you, everyone, it's nice speaking with you. there's pretty disturbing video that's coming out -- and i do mean disturbing -- that shows five corrections officers brutally beating a black man who has been in custody and now there is an investigation.
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>> disturbing new video shows corrections officers beating a 41-year-old black man in custody in georgia. now the georgia bureau of investigations is promising to have an independent thorough investigation of what exactly happened when five officers entered the cell where jarrett hobbs was being held. martin savidge has our report. when i really want to warn you. this video is very hard to watch. >> new video shows a brutal
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beating of a black man in custody by five officers in georgia. 41-year-old jarrett hobbs was arrested and held at the camden county detention center in september. the video, provided by jarrett hobbs's attorney harry daniels, shows five officers entering the cell, we start beating hopped in wrestling him to the ground. in the second video released by his attorneys, the officers are seen dragging hobbs out of the cell, where the beating continued. it's not clear what preceded these two videos. in a news release, harry daniels says the video is undeniable that the deputies actions are inexcusable. harry daniels further claim that before the attack, hobbs was experiencing a psychological episode at the jail, and asked to be placed in protective custody. harry daniels says there is a third video that is not show the incident but provides audio. it's one of two videos released. but daniels says he is not releasing that video at this time. the camden county sheriff's office said in the statement said that it has worked an internal investigation of the
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incident to begin immediately. hobbs was arrested in camden county for violating his probation, stemming from the federal -- in north carolina. according to his attorney who, is traveled charged with speeding, traveling with a revoked or suspended license, and -- this is substance. -- probation officer, who was not president at the time of the incident, testified that jailers heard a large bagging from the defendants holding cell. the defendant was reportedly kicking his cell door and was told by jailers to stop after already being warned to stop previously. he goes on to claim that the defendant resisted the jalen subsequently punched one deputy in the face while punching another deputy in the side of his head. one deputy sustained a bruised i had a broken hand as a result of the incident. hobbs's attorneys calling for the attorney general to bring charges against the officers. cnn has reached out to the district attorney sheriff's office for comments, but we have not heard back.
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meanwhile, hobbs is in prison in north carolina, according to his attorney. and lastly, we should point out in full transparency, that some of the information in this report was given to us by cnn contributor bakari sellers, who is also an attorney and also where presents hobbs. laura? >> -- join us now along with harry daniels, also an attorney for jarrett hobbs. gentlemen, when you look at this video -- i mean, it is disturbing, to say the least. and i think about it from the prosecutor's mind here, thinking about it and looking at it and saying, he was in a cell. why did the officers enter it? why did they begin to physically assault him? most people look at this video, bakari sellers, and say, what am i missing here as opposed to the brutality? what is the bigger story? is there even one. >> i don't think you are going to see a bigger story other
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than the police entered the cell and jumped a black man, or they just beat his butt. that is the story here. that's unfortunate, that this type of thing does -- trust between law enforcement and the community. the fact is that there are inconsistencies and flat out lies between any other support reports this in from the officer's testimony about this incident. you see the video. it is pretty clear that they walk in and just begin to wail on him. harry and i have a great deal of respect -- we travel around, doing this work, and one of the things that we always do is acknowledge the police officers and say thank you, because you have a very difficult job. what we saw in that cell is anything but good policing. >> harry, when you look at that, most of us are thinking about the idea of reasonable use of force, right? the idea of the fourth amendment comes to mind, obviously. when you look at this -- first, i want to know, is your clients health okay?
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what are the injuries that he must have sustained here? how is his physical well-being at this time? >> let me be clear. mr. hobbs he's not okay. he is mentally not okay. he is physically not okay. mr. hobbs was brutally beaten. in fact, after he was beaten, he was put back in confinement almost two weeks, on medical treatment. so, that is another aspect of this case that we are looking at. the video is exactly what you see. the fact that they gave false reports to the united states probation officer, the attorney in north carolina, it is appalling in itself. the united states attorney's office dismissed those claims. when they saw the video but -- camden county, they knew that mr. hobbs did not commit any assault but that assault was committed against him. the sheriff gave a statement today that he was going to investigate this matter -- although he had just learned about it. these issues took place at the end of summer.
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september the 3rd. the naacp president of the local chapter went to the jail, questions -- asked a question about mr. hobbs. he did not get any answered. and not until this video came out -- then and only then -- the sheriff decided to jump into action. we learned today that the -- buck helped investigate this matter. >> bakari on that notion, are we going to see more video footage released? and what was the process like to even get this? the fact that this was placed place back in december, why are we just now finding out about it? >> what you have seen -- >> laura, let me -- >> go ahead, go ahead, harry. >> let me ask you a question. the way we got this video -- mr. hobbs was on federal probation. he violated his probation in the state of north carolina. i think of, obviously, two charges -- he, in fact, once he was accused of assault on a police officer, that was something considered that the united states probation officers, look
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at his probation -- but he can proclaimed he had not committed assault. so, the united states probation and united states attorney in north carolina retrieved video. once they got the video, they -- to us. the third video, the video does not really show what happens inside the cell. it shows what happens. and it is already a. we do plan on releasing that video audio tomorrow to the public. >> bakari, the backlash is real. this has gone viral. just the idea of what has happened. and you had this clear demarcation. there is no information about why these officers thought they were at all entitled to use any type of force in this incident. i hope we learn more information about this. and thank you both for being part of the program to give us more information on what is so disturbing. thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you for covering, it laura coates, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> man -- a texas teacher is no longer employed.
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white is better than all? >> let me finish. i think everybody thinks that, and they are not honest about it. >> -- racist though. >> -- >> you said you are what? you are a racist? >> i think everybody is a racist at -- >> you said you are a racist? >> -- said it enough. >> so, you are racist? >> -- your phone up. -- phone up. >> i don't think i got respect for him anymore, man. >> cnn has not identified the person or people who filmed that video. and it does not show what led up to this exchange or what happened after. but the teacher has not been
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identified. but cnn did make repeated attempts to reach the man named by a parent but was unsuccessful. the superintendent put out a statement saying this, and i quote, last friday, november 11th, pflugerville isd were made aware of an inappropriate conversation that a teacher at bohls middle school had with students during an advisory class. as of monday morning, november 14th, the teacher in question is no longer employed by the pflugerville isd and we are actively looking for a replacement. now i want to bring in carmelo llewellyn, a student who was in the class that day. also joining us is carmelo's mom, janai hearty. -- i have to ask you melo, you were in this classroom. i can't believe that this was actually said at this -- tell me what you are thinking
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at this moment when you hear this. >> we just anger building up. but i controlled it and it went down. i had to speak to him. i was speaking from my heart -- on what i had to say. >> -- the student that said, i had respect for you, but now i have no respect for you. >> you are the student talking about respect, which i have to say, i have to praise you, melo, on that point. because you are calm, because you -- you actually endeavor to understand what he was saying and speak about it. . when you heard about this, was this the first time that you said something like this? where did it come from? would have before then? >> it started off -- because i asked about -- and he told me, no, because i was racist. and i asked him, what do you mean by that? and then he told me -- that's when he started, started talking about --
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>> janai, your son is saying, this happened because he needed to use the restroom? go ahead, janai. >> prior to this he acted racist -- i guess he showed signs of racism before. but this is the first time he said it out of his mouth. >> walk me through this moment, janai. i can imagine my kids coming home and telling me about this moment. -- what was your reaction to all this? >> i was very, very angry. i think i was more angry that the school never contacted me. >> really? so, you learned about this from your child? >> i heard from my child in on the video that he -- before i saw the video. >> so, there was never a point in time where you were contacted as a parent of a child who is in that classroom, as melo's mom? >> no.
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i went to the school monday morning because they never contacted me. this happened thursday. >> melo, when this happened, tell me what took place after. did someone go and tell, say, a principle or another teacher? did you tell somebody else other than the teacher who thought it was appropriate to say something like this? >> yeah, we told the assistant principal. -- >> and what was that principal's reaction? >> she didn't tell the principal at all. she made me write a statement. but she didn't tell anyone about the statement. -- >> where is that statement now? did you tell you what to do with it? >> no. >> how did it make you feel when he told the assistant principal -- and it sounds like you don't think anything was done, to try to help or make you all feel better. how did that feel?
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>> i was kind of angry. yeah. >> when you hear this, mom, and you think about -- this was in the classroom, this was at school. and we hear a lot about school board meetings. we hear a lot about book bans. we hear a lot about people being angry about so-called woke statements in a school. and yet you hear about racism and somebody in a position of authority, in a school setting, talking about his race being superior, what do you think should happen next? what do you think would help your son and other kids in that program? >> my main thing is, i just want him gone. i don't want him teaching. i really should feel he should not be teaching anywhere. i know he's out of pflugerville district but i don't think he should be teaching kids. -- you could be bothering their
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grades, when you feel some type of way about them. >> that's an important point. >> you are not being neutral about the situation. so, you let it be known how you feel. >> that's an important part, especially about the grading, how someone is in a position to actually evaluate a student, if they have these biases, racism. listen, melo, i really want to applaud you, for standing up for yourself in the moment. i know a lot of adults who are unable to find the words. and they will, the next day, i wish i had said, this or i wish i had expressed this. you, at the age you are, have enough sense and dignity to do something and say something in the moment. and i hope that you recognize just how powerful that is. and collectively, i hope people realize that the kids are going to be all. right melo, how are you feeling today? thinking about what has happened? >> i'm better. i'm feeling better right now. >> do you think -- is the school supporting you?
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do you feel the support of your community. >> yeah, i feel it. because i talked to a counselor most of the time, yeah. >> well, young man, kudos to you. i hope you don't have to go through anything like that again. mom, i'm sorry this had to happen. but i'm -- eager to see your future. >> thank you. >> thank you. and thank you so much for watching. our live coverage continues. luxury exemplified. innovation electrified. with apple music seamlessly integrated. the all-new, all-electric eqs suv from mercedes-benz.
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