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morning. four college students were stabbed to death, happened in idaho. the community packing their bags now. >> also we'll get to that but the control of the house has been decided. it appears republicans are planning a slew of investigations now that they're in the majority, targeting democrats. we'll have new cnn reporting on how the white house is preparing. >> we'll also talk about where the gop is headed. governor asa hutchinson of arkansas whose term expires in january is going to join us live. plus gretchen whitmer of michigan is going to join us to talk about her big win, democrats' big win in her state. >> and this morning, president biden is challenging president zelenskyy's claim that ukraine is not responsible for the deadly missile strike in poland. but first what will house speaker nancy pelosi do once she's put down the gavel? we'll find out. she's expected to make an announcement about her future on the house floor today.

a source says nancy pelosi has two different versions of her speech. speculation about her future has intensified in the aftermath of the midterm elections. the balance of power in the house has shifted. cnn projects that republicans will take control of the chamber with a very slim majority. president biden was week to reach across the -- quick to reach across the aisle and congratulate gop leader kevin mccarthy. the president said he's willing to work with anyone who is willing to work with him. house republicans are expected to make investigations into the biden administration a priority. new cnn about that. the white house has been preparing for months now. jeremy diamond joins us live. good morning to you. take us inside those preparations. what do they look like? >> reporter: these have been among the earliest and most aggressive preparations by any white house ahead of midterms.

last spring they began hiring officials to handle a deluge of republican over sight requests. you can see key hires at the white house and the justice department and also the department of homeland security. at the white house a team of lawyers, legislative affairs specialists and communication strategists have been mapping out where the republican investigations are going to go. they've been doing so going through hundreds of republican oversight letters to the white house and key agency. watching the likely incoming compareman of the house judiciary to see where they're planning to go. the republicans have been telegraphing their strategy. another thing the white house has been doing is meeting with agencies to ensure that they are on the same page. one of those meetings i'm told took place more than four months before election day with top officials from the white house as well as the department of homeland security, meeting inside the roosevelt room to go over what their strategy would

be. the white house wanted to ensure that agencies were prepared, particularly dhs, but similar meetings took place with the state department, the justice department, and the defense department as well. >> do you have reporting this morning on who the main targets may be of the house republican probes? they've not just talked about hunter biden, they've talked about dr. anthony fauci, they talked about secretary mayorkas. >> reporter: republicans have a wide list of targets one of the reasons i mentioned the meeting with the department of homeland security. they are viewed as one of the top tarpgets of republicans. republicans have been threatening for months the potential of impeaching secretary mayorkas over his handling of the border. there's border security, there's covid-19, there is the u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan. now the way that the white house and these agencies choose to

respond to these requests is largely going to be based on what they see as the validity of those requests whether they give the white house time to gather the documents and respond. but make no mistake about it. the white house is very prepared to forcefully respond and push back on those requests that they see as overreach, especially when the they believe that these are mainly just intended as political attacks to damage the president. >> jeremy diamond, live for us at the white house, thanks very much. also this morning, karen bass making history becoming the first woman and second black person elected to be mayor of los angeles. cnn projects that she defeated rick caruso. bass said solving l.a.'s homeless crisis is a top priority. she said she's honored and humbled to be chosen as mayor. there's a manhunt under way as a college town in idaho is on

edge this morning after four students at the university of idaho were stabbed to death off campus. right now still more questions than answers as police are saying they cannot guarantee anyone's safety. people are fleeing the town because they're so scared right now. vie veronica is live in moscow, idaho. the press conference yesterday, the police said even though they believed the stabbings happened in the early hours of sunday they didn't get a 911 call until closer to noon. >> reporter: so many questions around what exactly happened. they won't tell us who made the 911 call at this point. but there were roommates home, we have more on that. and also police are saying there is evidence to suggest this was a targeted attack but they won't say what that is. they also have no suspect. and with all of these questions still out there, the community is demanding answers. >> as we have stated, please

stay vigilant, report any suspicious activity and be aware of your surroundings at all times. >> reporter: the city of moscow, idaho is on edge. >> we do not have a suspect at this time and that individual is still out there. we cannot say there's no threat to the community. >> the college town shaken by the brutal killings of four young university of idaho students. police say the victims, all members of greek life on campus appear to have been friends, pictured in this photo posted by 21-year-old senior kayleigh goncalvis hours before their deaths. >> we know the killings occurred in the early sunday morning hours. >> reporter: their bodies were found inside this home on sunday across from the campus. officials said there was no evidence of forced entry into the home. police say the four arrived home after 1:45 a.m. sunday but were

killed in the early morning hours. there were no calls made to 911 until noon that day. though no weapon has been located, the police chief said all four victims were killed with a knife. the local coroner described the gruesome scene. >> there was quite a bit of blood in the apartment. and it was a traumatic scene to find four dead college students in a residence. >> reporter: the police chief revealed two additional roommates were in the house at the time of the killings. neither sustained injuries. the chief declined to say what information the survivors shared with police. >> we won't go any further into what they know and don't know. >> reporter: families who would have been planning thanksgiving dinner are now forced to deal with the tragedy. >> we're trying to process it. it's not a call you think you're going to have to speak with

funeral home directors, the fbi, and have it hit national news. >> ethan's father issuing a statement wednesday calling on police to release further information about the case. the statement reads, quote, the silence further compounds our family's agony after our son's murder. i urge officials to speak the truth, share what they know, find the assailant and protect the greater community. for now more questions than answers continue to plague the moscow, community. >> no one would have ever imagined something like this could happen in moscow, idaho, in such a small town. >> reporter: i am told that these roommates are fully cooperating with the investigation. and while police have not labeled them as suspects, they are not ruling anyone out. kaitlan? >> a lot of questions there, especially with the fact that the person responsible for this is still at large. thank you for that update. this morning u.s. officials are scrambling to ease rising tensions after a stray missile

killed two people in poland. president biden disputing president zelenskyy's claim that the missile was not from ukraine as nato and russia try to avoid a wider conflict. >> what's your reaction to president zelenskyy saying that the missiles that landed in poland were not ukrainian? >> that's not the evidence. >> cnn's frederik pleitgen is live in moscow this morning with more. good morning to you. where are we on this issue? >> reporter: good morning, don. exactly what we heard just there from president biden apparently not being on the same page as the ukrainian president. that's something that the russians seem to be enjoying hearing. one of the things that the kremlin spokesman said we just got out of a conference call with him a couple mninutes ago. he praised president biden for showing restraint in reaction on what happened in poland. president biden coming out fairly early saying it seems as though the missile that landed

there on polish territory that seems to have been launched by ukraine but then the russians ripping into the ukrainians and the polls as well accusing them of hysteria and trying to drag nato into a full-on conflict with the russians. you can see the russians trying to capitalize on that. it was interesting in the phone call as well he was asked about the fact that nato allies are saying that ultimately russia bears responsibility for this because the russians unleashed the war in ukraine and doing the cruise missile strikes across the country damaging critical infrastructure there. the russians trying to play that back saying if nato had done more to restrain ukraine in the past and taken russia's security concerns into account this wouldn't have happened either. there's one other thing we also learned which we think is really important, don. he was also asked whether or not there could be a lull in fighting in the winter because right now with those attacks on the critical infrastructure you

have a lot of people, of course, freezing in ukraine and he said that the weather will not stop what russians call their special military operations. so it seems no hope the war might wind down or go slower in winter. >> frederik pleitgen in moscow this morning. thank you. top u.s. general mark milly said it's not likely that ukraine will achieve an outright military victory against russia. he went on to say they may have the upper hand, ukraine, in not negotiations. listen. >> the probability of a ukrainian military victory defined as kicking all russians out of ukraine to include what they claim as crimea, the probability of that happening any time soon is not high. there may be a political solution where politically the russians withdraw. that's possible. >> that push for diplomacy is

not in line with the biden administration's stance. kylie atwood joins us now. how unaligned are they? >> reporter: what's interesting here is the chairman of the joint chief of staff made similar comments last week where he encouraged publically that the ukrainians should be seizing diplomacy at this moment. he said when there's an opportunity they should seize it. then you have national security adviser jake sullivan who said, no, no, when he was asked in recent days, he said the position of the biden administration is the united states is going to strengthen ukraine's hand in the war and then they will seek diplomacy. they will seek a political solution when they want to. the united states isn't going to make that determination for them. so it's pretty striking that milley came out yesterday and sort of doubled down on what he said, even though it doesn't match the approach of the biden administration at large here. we should know that it has sent

some ukrainians with questions as to who to listen to in the biden administration. even though president biden himself has been clear saying the ukrainians are going to dictate any political solution here, any diplomatic solution here. there are questions when you have the top u.s. general saying maybe this is the moment for diplomacy. >> you certainly do. before you go, you have some new reporting of your own on what happened behind the scenes as information on that missile landed in poland. what happened? >> reporter: yeah, so when the missile landed, president biden was in bali, it was 4:00 in the morning when the secretary of state was awokened in his hotel room with an aide knocking on his door and telling him what had happened. he immediately went into president biden's room where the secretary of state, the national security adviser, jake sullivan and the president huddled around and collected all the information. in a way it was beneficial they

were all in a hotel together even though this was a circumstance everyone was fearing could happen. as they went through the information, president biden called the polish president and his national security adviser and the secretary of state were in there for that phone call and then they made phone calls to the ukrainians urging them not to get too far ahead because they said this was a russian missile. we know it's unlikely it was the case. it was likely accidental ukrainian defensive missile. so there were a number of conversations happening in that hotel room at the time, as the national security team was trying to go through and figure out what was going on here. >> and if this was purposeful for sure. kylie atwood thank you for the great reporting. >> more calls for change within the republican party, arkansas's outgoing governor, asa hutchinson tells us what he thinks the gop needs before 2024. there he is. after four years of quote

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if donald trump were to run and win the nomination, would you support him as the nominee? >> let me say, there may be somebody else in that contest i'd prefer more, jake. >> anyone in mind? >> you know, i honestly believe we're going to have better choices. >> that is the former vice president calling for new leadership in the republican party during a cnn town hall. his independence now stands out after his years of unfailing loyalty to donald trump. in one meeting in 2017 he spent three minutes straight praising trump to his face. pence writes in his new book, i

have always been loyal to president donald trump. >> president donald trump delivered a great victory for the american people. >> because of your determination, because of your leadership, the forgotten men and women of america are forgotten no more. >> i'm deeply humbled as your vice president to be able to be here. because of your leadership, mr. president, you're delivering on that middle class miracle. >> thank you, mr. president. just the greatest privilege of my life to serve as vice president to a president who's keeping his word to the american people. >> this day should be an inspiration to every american. because thanks to your leadership -- >> and thank to the leadership of president donald trump, america is back. >> mike pence, a great guy. by the way, a totally loyal person. >> like former vice president pence, arkansas's republican governor said it's clear that

voters are rejecting election denial as any platform for the gop. governor asa hutchinson whose term ends in january and maybe testing the presidential waters joins us now. you're saying that trump offered a losing message when he announced on tuesday night. what does a successful republican candidate in 2024 look like to you, i wonder? >> a successful candidate is someone who addresses the problems that faces america. as you mentioned, i was in iowa yesterday and people are concerned about the rising cost, the excessive government spending, and they want their lives back, their freedoms back. and that's the republican message. and this last midterm election was not a rejection of our ideas, it was a rejection of specific candidates that was not focused on the problems of americans. so that's the candidates -- those are the ones that can win. i agree with the vice president,

there's going to be a number of alternatives in 2024 to the former president's announcement. >> are you potential one of those alternatives? >> absolutely. i'm looking at it, looking at it very seriously. after the midterm elections, it's more intense and it's an accelerated review. and after going to iowa, i'm encouraged that a governor, who's actually solved problems, who has a conservative common sense approach can draw support and can be a good alternative. so i'm encouraged by it. probably looking at january for a decision point. >> january as a decision point. there are a number of you considering getting in this race. we've been talking about it all week. are you worried a crowded republican primary field might benefit trump like it did in 2016, though? >> i think this is different than 2016. if you look at 2016, the crowded field was a disadvantage.

it allowed trump to pick one after the other and knock them out. people understand who donald trump is today and his style. and i don't think there's going to be anything new in his approach. and so, you have to be tough. you have to be resilient. and you have to stick with it in the long term. but i don't believe it will be the same as 2016. he's a known quantity now. we know the chaos that comes with him. and that's really not the kind of leadership that's good for america and really the future of our party. >> governor, good morning to you, it's don lemon here, i was trying to jump in earlier, pardon me for that. a lot of folks want to move on. we heard many members of the republican party wanting to move on. we have to be honest because even without trump, trumpism still exists. there's still uncivil vindictive wing of the gop, you know who i'm talking about i don't have

to mention names there, how is that going to go away? >> first of all, it's a tough internal battle within the gop. that's the reality of it. we have to face that. we have to overcome it. and we have to pull everybody together. we understand the playing field here. you have a former president that's got a very loyal following, you have a bellicose part of our party and we have to compete with ideas, with the tone, with the problem-solving approach. and i'd like to think that wins. but we have to see. and it's going to be that internal struggle and we can't shy away from it. you have to embrace it, you have to smile, you have to recognize some good things that donald trump did absolutely as president. but this is a different day and time. we're looking for a new leader in 2024. and for me i don't want to turn the party over to the past. i want to develop the principles

for the future. >> i understand what you're saying. but practically, like what are -- are you -- is it telling those members, your words, bellicose, to face a reality that the party is shrinking? look at what happened last tuesday? how do you do that in actual practice? >> well, that's very important point. the midterm elections was not a rejection of republican principles, it was simply a rejection of certain candidates. in iowa, it was a red wave in iowa. in arkansas we had a red wave. we had good candidates in both places. and some states you didn't have that same quality of candidates looking for the future. so it's about those ideas and i have no doubt that we can have a winning message even in this environment because we've proven it can be done in this last election.

you know, we didn't do what we wanted to do nationally but it was a rejection of certain candidates that were focused on the past and that's what we have to overcome and make sure we offer solutions for the future and not just debating what happened in the last election. >> governor, thank you so much for being with us this morning. we're glad you're here. you're welcome back in january when you make the presidential announcement as well. let's talk about something significant in the senate right now and the fact they're about to vote with the support of 12 republican senators to enshrine the right to same-sex marriage federally. it is a narrow bill. it wouldn't force any state to perform same-sex marriage but just recognize legal same-sex marriages from other states. i wonder if you support it? >> well, first of all i don't know that it was necessary because after the recent supreme court decision that recognized the constitutional right for same-sex marriages, arkansas

followed the law, followed the supreme court ruling. and it's allowed in arkansas. and so, that standard is out there, based upon a constitutional principle. so the federal legislation made it clear, perhaps, and so it wouldn't -- it's not going to change what we have at arkansas and i certainly support the continuation of the recognizing of that constitutional right. >> but that's what people said about abortion and then there was dobbs. you're a lawyer, you have a j.d. and this court, alito's decision said the substantive due process right isn't there. and that brings into question whether all of these substantive due process right isn't there. so couldn't that same theory be used to try to overturn -- >> perhaps but judge alito also

said don't read into this that you're going to overturn the other decisions related to same-sex marriages. >> except that wasn't the law, right? that was just dicta. >> he said it in a decision certainly. certainly, again, theoretically. so the legislation was passed in the senate yesterday. i have no issue with that. they wanted to ensure that everybody had that confidence and the states have already embraced that. so that is the status quo. that is the law, that's a recognition of that constitutional right. >> so just to be clear, you support it but you didn't think it was necessary? is that your stance? >> that's correct. that's correct. we followed it in arkansas. the supreme court decision. and i just don't think what happened yesterday was necessary. but it's okay. >> we're glad you're here. >> governor, thank you so much. january as poppy said we'll be looking forward to welcoming you

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this morning it is a really troubling time in the tech industry. sweeping layoffs at facebook's parent company meta, now amazon, twitter. and twitter's new owner elon musk said employees must commit to quote extremely hard core work or leave tonight. what's going on in silicone valley? >> that's what we wanted to know too. we were thinking what is going on, and so we took it to the

experts. it seems every day we're hearing about a major tech company announcing layoffs. what does this mean? should people in other industries be concerned and how many more layoffs can we expect? in three weeks the tech industry lost tens of thousands of jobs. historic layoffs at twitter, meta, lyft and amazon. layoffs fyi, a crowd source tracking site puts it at more than 35,000 layoffs so far this month. >> that's the highest month since the pandemic. so that beats april 2020. which was 17,000 employees laid off. >> meta cut its workforce by 13%. ceo mark zuckerberg saying he's taking accountability and apologizing to those impacted. new owner elon musk slashed half of twitter's staff with founder jack dorsey tweeting the company grew too quickly, i apologize for that. and amazon is laying off 10,000

workers this week. citing an unusual and uncertain macro economic environment. >> there were big investments made during the pandemic time. while the rest of the economy, for example, was plummeting by 3.4%, tech grew by 4%. >> but in a post pandemic high inflation world, consumer behaviors and spending pat herbs are changing with the threat of recession on the horizon. >> i take it as a sign that companies maybe got over their skis at some point and they're trying to sit upright again. >> reporter: roger lee founded layoffs.fyi as the pandemic unfolded. recently he's digging deeper into the numbers. >> many companies letting go half or more of their recruiting hr teams just because they're not hiring as many people anymore. >> reporter: aaron backman a recruiter at a tech company was one of those layoffs.

>> what did that feel like for you? >> it was a really awful feeling. we were told really early in the morning in an email saying layoffs are coming today. and if you get a call, it's going to be you. and i sat there for six hours on slack and watched my colleagues get laid off one by one. >> reporter: then he got the call. >> it's depressing. >> reporter: as american workers watch tech giants shed jobs at a rapid clip many in other industries are asking, am i next? >> should they be nervous? >> first of all, the tech economy are just 2% of the labor market. tech is an important part of the economy. but it is not the whole of the economy. the rest of the labor market is looking pretty good. the economy is adding jobs at a pretty healthy clip. >> reporter: and the hiring that she's talking about there are in consumer facing areas like health care, social services and leisure and hospitality. but we're talking about people's

jobs, people's livelihoods here. and aaron backman who you heard from said in the few short months he's laid off, he's applied for 125 jobs in tech, has only gotten two phone calls back. a glimmer of hope here is that some economists believe we may see more layoffs in tech, but it might be short lived, the rebound may be a lot sooner than we expect. of course tech is a small part of the jobs market but it's an important part. tech is essentially the future. >> if it's your job it's everything. >> it's your livelihood, yeah. brace yourself, next week airports expected to be busier than they've been in years. harry inton is here with this morning's number. and the report on the rising threat of domestic extremism in the u.s. michigan's governor, gretchen whitmer, who was a target by the way of a terror plot joins cnn live after her re-election victory.

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so, our reporters, all of us at this desk, have had some trouble at some point with our live shots. but in kenya we want to show you a reporter and his uninvited guest that took it to a whole new level. >> destroying has been at a times, decimating our entire ecosystem and disrupting the cycle of life. it's up to us to be guardians of our natural world, save our species and provide a home. >> that was kenyan journalist alvin detailing the devastating drought in kenya. he was standing next to the baby

elephant before being up staged and tickle. look how calm he stays. the ear, the head and too much -- >> he's trying to so hard to stay professional. and then it just crosses the line. >> i think his laugh rivals anderson's, don't you? >> no. nothing rivals anderson's. >> we used to think with the white house it was bad when the sprinklers would go off. that's so distracting. but he kept going, kept reporting. >> good job, alvin. as many americans are getting ready to travel for thanksgiving, there are big signs that air travel is nearing the prepandemic levels. joining us with this morning's number, might not be a number you want to hear but it's senior data reporter harry intont. what do we expect next week? >> i think there are a lot of folks flying next week. we know the covid pandemic played a big role in limiting airline travel. take a look at airline

passengers as a percentage of 2019 passengers. that is before the pandemic. look at where we were over the last week, 97% nearly back to the pre-pandemic levels. a year ago it was 85%, making our way back. look at 2020, it was just 37%. and i want to give you an idea why. so let's just take a look at the idea of risk. risk to health, returning to your pre-covid lifestyle. now it's just 35% of americans who say it's a large or moderate risk. small or no risk up to 65%. compare to november of 2020 when 71% said it was a large to moderate risk to return to your pre-covid lifestyle. it's not just on flying where we see this type of movement. so normal things people have done recently, eating out, 64%, not socially distant, 72%. compare that to november of 2020, when eating out was just

37%. not socially distanced was 23%. visiting friends or family was down to just 41%. i think there's this idea, right, that november, december, holiday season we want to get together with family, it gets depressing to stay at home. and if you look back to the 2020 holiday season, folks feeling lonely, 50% of americans said they were feeling lonely during that holiday season. i think the idea of getting back together with friends and family can make us feel less lonely and more like we're part of the holiday spirit and holiday season. >> harry inton, thank you for a that. >> thank you. nothing snarky to say to you this morning. thank you very much. >> thank you. we want to talk about the new senate report that finds that the fbi, homeland security, and social media companies aren't doing enough to address the rising threat of domestic extremism in the united states. the investigation found that social media companies have failed to meaningfully address

the growing presence of extremism on their platforms. the business models are based on maximizing user engagement, growth and profits, which incentivizes extreme content. joining us is governor gretchen whitmer of michigan, she was the target of a terror plot to kidnap her in 2020, she also won re-election last week beating her trump backed opponent, in one of the nation's most important battleground states. obama adm congratulations on your win. glad you could join us. i want to talk about this issue, i know it's personal when you've been a target of one of the plots. homeland security secretary mayorkas said domestic violence extremism is the most lethal threat to the country right now. what needs to be done?

>> first of all, congratulations on the show. i'm glad to be with you. and i think our overwhelming victory last week tells you that the public doesn't want extremism. they want people who are going to make their lives better, solve problems. extremism doesn't help people pay the bills. what does is a good paying job and a governor who's going to solve problems. all that being said, this rise in extremism is dangerous. my opponent from last week was a conspiracy theorist, election denier who stoked political violence and sought to undermine our confidence in our institutions. that represents the biggest danger to our democracy, threats against fellow americans are not acceptable. whether they're aimed at a democratic governor or a republican. we have to take a stand in this. i think social media plays a big role in it and i hope congress tackles it. >> the fbi said they're concerned about the lethality as

well as the spike that started in 2020 after anti-government, anti-authority violent extremism that was from director christopher wray. this is a question, we often talk about a lot -- we hear a lot about foreign terrorism, right. terrorism that is imported. but the biggest threat is coming from the united states. why is it so uncomfortable for people to discuss and tackle this issue? >> i think just by speaking out against it, you make yourself potentially a target of it. and yet we need smart, strong, good motivated people to do exactly that. to hold people accountable. i'm really grateful that we have had prosecutors and an attorney general here in michigan and the fbi and federal prosecutors who are -- have prosecuted these plotters who wanted to kidnap and kill me. they've gotten a number of convictions.

i think that accountability is really important. but just by taking it on, makes yourself a target of it. and that's a scary, dangerous prospect. but we can't let that dissuade us from being bold and holding people mayorkas you said yesterday i'm excited about what we're going to be able to get done. can you tell us what's at the top of your list? what pieces of legislation is it in. >> just to give you a little more context, this has only happen four times in 130 years here in mishchigan. >> wow. i think we're going to be able to expand the agenda, whether

it's fixing the roads, it's these fundamentals that have always op always been front and center. i want to wipe that 1931 law off the books and i legislature will be eager to get that to my desk. >> what about on guns? you were able to win some traditionally red parts of your state. are you going to compromise with them? what are you going to push for? >> so we are now, sadly, almost on the one-year anniversary of the oxford shooting. and it was, of all the hard days i've had to navigate my state through that was without question for me personally the hardest. i do this work because i love people and i want to support families and a family that's

lost a child to gun violence, there's nothing you can do to make that better. what we can do, though, is enact common sense proven policies that will keep guns out of the hands of people that pose a threat. whether it's secure storage for gun owners or background checks and red flag laws, i believe those are proven and we can take that action and i'm confident with this new group of legislators we'll be able to find common ground pretty quickly on that front. >> i have two questions. noting the fact that democrats are in the control of the governor's mansion, the house and senate for the first time since 1983, one of the things you said you want to do also is repeal the right to work act, which prohibits contracts that requires workers to pay union dues as a requirement of employment. there's been some criticism. maybe it could hurt job growth. what's the argument for repealing that.

>> i think it's a false choice. we are seeing our economy thriving. we've had record investments, building semiconductors in michigan, evs, batteries. we are earning incredible investment. we know a worker's ability to negotiate fair wages and time off with their family is really fundamental to the middle class that was built in this country in the state of michigan. and so i reject, you know, false choices that you can only do one or the other. we know that the auto industry has been thriving, they have a unionized workforce so it's important that we are thoughtful and strategic as we move forward, but ensuring that hard working men and women can bargain for fair wages is something that is kind of front and center for so many families here and that's why i think we'll continue to look at making some progress in this space. >> i know republicans in your

state have said they'd like to fight that. on another note, you've been asked about a 2024 run, running for president. i said you're not interested in it. if you're a supporter of yours, wants to see you run, what is the argument for you not running for president in. >> i literally eight days ago got elected to a second four-year term. this is the state that i've always called home, i love the state of michigan. i am so grateful to be governor of the state of michigan. i have a big job ahead. i got a big job that i was just hired to do for four more years and that's where i'm going to stay focused. >> thank you, governor. >> we heard for now in that answer. >> i know, everyone's going to parse it. i'm staying right where i'm at. thank you. >> i feel ganged up on because

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good thursday morning, everyone, november 17th. we're so glad you could join us this morning. there's a lot going on. nancy pelosi set to make a big announcement about her political future hours from now.

this morning former vice president mike pence saying that there will be better choices for president than donald trump in 2024. does he consider himself one of them is this. >> i would say yes. >> i think so. >> and the ceo renting out a room in his own home. we'll tell you why he is doing that. >> nancy pelosi is expected to make an announcement today. speculation of her future has intensified. some speculate she may step aside for a new generation of leadership. jessica dean is on capitol hill for us. good morning, jessica. >> reporter: good morning to you. this has been a lot of the buzz and it reached a fever pitch last night. we know from a