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my cholesterol is borderline. so i take garlique to help maintain healthy cholesterol safely and naturally. and it's odor free. i'm taking charge of my cholesterol with garlique. well, the mid-terms are already in the rearview mirror as many of america's leading politicians are now looking to the future. speaker nancy pelosi today announcing that she is stepping down from leadership, not congress but leadership. hours after the former vice president, mike pence, walked a pretty fine line while rebuking his former boss for january 6th. just days after the former president announced his third run for the white house. and tonight former president obama speaking about the dangers
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facing our democracy still. >> that progress makes democracy a whole lot more complicated. for one thing it's easier for people to agree on stuff when the majority of the people look the same and worship the same way and share the same traditions. it's harder as society's become more diverse and everybody is at the table. and we're going to have to figure out how to live together, or we will destroy each other. >> i want to bring in cnn politics reporter and editor at large crist eliza, and cnn political commentators karen finny. i'm glad you're here and thinking about this. without the tie. i love it. >> look, my mom may be watching. she may be asleep. every time i go on tv without the tie she's like did you
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forget your tie and i'm like, no. >> i'm on mom's side. >> the tie is sitting in the greenroom by itself. >> the ideas of the ties that bind right now. >> that's professional. >> you see what i did there? it was subtle. but one of the ties that did bind if you were to compare and contrast the style per se of president obama on these issues and then what we heard on tuesday night from the former president harkening back here's what he said and i want to talk afterwards. >> we were a free nation, but now we are a nation in decline. we are a failing nation. hundreds of thousands of pounds of deadly drugs including very lethal fentanyl are flooding across the now open and totally porous southern border. the blood soaked streets of our once great cities are cesspools of violent crimes which are being watched all over the world
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as leadership of other countries explain that this is what america and democracy is really all about. how sad. the united states has been embarrassed, humiliated, and weakened for all to see. >> so i mean not the glass half full speech one expects from a candidate. but in some respects that has been the strategy, the idea of grievance-based politic. and becky, to all these heavy hitters out there right now from the pences to the obamas to trump, et cetera, talking, what does it say to you this is the subject matter still, the future as it's tied to our nation in peril? >> i mean it's stunning how completely out of touch he is to the reality, and i think, you know, one of the things that i took away from the election was that american democracy matters to people. freedom matters. our values -- those core values
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actually matter. and it was just a bizarre -- as we've seen many times actually from donald trump sort of -- it was like he was in his own universe. however, as we know in his narrative everything is horrible until he comes in to save the day. so -- >> i was just thinking to your point watching that, it is totally the i alone can fix it mentality, right? what was fascinating it wasn't just what he portrayed as -- i mean blood soaked streets, cesspools of violence. it wasn't just that he did that. he was saying two years ago everything was perfect, like that was the other piece. well, everything was perfect -- i remember writing down -- i was watching and taking notes. like everything got that bad in two years? like everything was perfect, it was a utopia when donald trump was president but in the last 18 to 24 months everything is terrible. it's a weird message.
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>> there are a lot of voters out there who are not happy with the way things are going, but the slice of voters outright angry about the way things are going is a sllittle smaller. so this is an actual question in the exit poll. how do you feel about the way things are going in the country? if you're angry, i think republicans won those voters by a margin, it was enormous. but if you're in the i'm not mad, i'm just disappointed category -- >> harkening back to the mothers. >> you would think if you're disappointed in the way things are going you would want to change the leadership, and those leaders did not vote in big numbers for republicans. so just doubling down on if you're really mad vote for me message -- >> you're -- that's a strong point you've made especially because today you also heard -- i wasn't just gratuitously playing trump's speech on tuesday. it is a counter to what president obama said today, and
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there's a moment he talks about the idea of enticement, of trying to use that grievance, trying to capitalize on that anger as the only platform you have. here he is. >> one of the easiest ways to win votes is to tap into people's growing sense of anxiety and fear and vertigo, their sense of loss, their resentment of change and to tell them that their tradition and their values, their very identities are under attack by outsiders. and you add it all up and you've got a recipe for backlash and polarization and the sort of toxic slash and burn anything goes politics that we've seen erupt just about everywhere. and it is dangerous. >> that recipe has made a lot of cakes. >> it has. a lot of brownies, too. no question. at the same time, again, i think americans -- because when americans said they were angry at the exit polls, if you then
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ask why, there were a lot of different reasons. and they didn't all vote for republicans actually. some were mad at the idea that women would not have control of their own bodies and they were mad at anybody who would try to take that away. some like young people are mad about climate change. the point being i mean that obama does so beautifully to try to say we can do this together, we don't have to be -- and, you know, i will just say as a biracial person and he is, too, when you have grown up on both sides of the color line you really get a different viewpoint into both. and you want to say to white folk don't be afraid, it's okay, right? i mean he talked about -- eloquently once about how he was with his white grandmother and she saw -- he saw her being afraid of some young black men coming towards them. and i think he has always been so eloquent at saying there is more that unites us as human beings, as americans than that divides us and let's not fall
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for that -- >> he talked about, i use that word anxiety that's really important. back in 2016 i would argue americans were really frustrated, there was a lot of anxiety and many voters said i'm just ready it blow it all up, and that's why you up with donald trump as president. i don't think voters right now are in an i'm anxious and therefore i want to blow it all up kind of mode. and what we saw at the polls were voters differentiating certain types of republicans from others. the kind of blow it all up-type folks didn't do as well at the ballot box. i think people are expressing this anxiety not by saying i want someone like donald trump, i want someone going to throw bombs, but they're beginning to pivot away a little bit from that harsh polarization. >> i want to play -- i want to set this up in this contrast happening. i always think the idea of the ythe yin and yang going on. remember trump talks about this. he picks a little bit of a
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moment the other day to talk about the criticism and the loss in the mid-terms. here he is. >> much criticism is being placed on the fact that the republican party should have done better, and frankly much of this blame is correct. but the citizens of our country have not yet realized the full extent and the gravity of the pain our nation is going through and the total effect of the suffering is just starting to take hold. they don't quite feel it yet, but they will very soon. i have no doubt that by 2024 it will sadly be much worse, and they will see much more clearly what happened and what is happening to our country, and the voting will be much different. >> so that was the sort off t tt the foreboding tone of the
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future. here's what that contrast looked like. >> with these elections the people stood in the breach and repelled the assault on the democracy. they rejected violence and insurrection and in doing so gave proof through the night that our flag was still there. our children, babies born today will live into the next century, and our decisions will determine their future for generations to come. while we will have our disagreements on policy, we must remain fully committed to our shared fundamental mission, to hold strong to our most treasured democratic ideals, to cherish the spark of divinity in each and every one of us and to always put our country first. >> chris, a different tone. >> oh, my gosh, i mean it's like from two different planets. the thing -- maybe because we're talking about barack obama, but
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i just wrote down a quote which obviously was his slogan. politics has been at least as long as i remember it and as long as i've studied it about hope in the future, right? things are going to get better. you may be struggling, but they're going to get better. i don't know how you run a presidential campaign, again, because i think chris' point is really important, different year, different mind-set of the voters again on streets of blood, cesspools of violence. he literally said -- again, i wrote it down -- america is failing. if that works again it's so anathema to how we always considered campaigns are won and run. think about the contrast obama and pelosi what you just heard and even mike pence in our town hall last night versus that trump speech.
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it's remarkable that's his message. >> but also it's the message of and it's somebody else's fault and pitting groups of people against each other. and guess what, we fell for it in 2016 because there was fear of that change and i hope what we've learned coming out of the trump years and now in this past election i'm tired of being divided, i'm tired of fighting, how can we come together, to chris' point, what's the hope, what's the future, i'm tired of the past, tired of those fights. >> you mention there was a moment during our town hall when he was asked a question about a disillusioned republican voter who was talking about the idea of not feeling there was the hope for many reasons you're talking about in the poll and beyond. listen to this. >> i come from a republican
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family, but i have lost faith in the republican party. they seem to have leaned way to the far right, and i am a middle of the road sort of person. and i really hate the name-calling and the demonizing that's going on. and why should i have faith in the republicans to lead this country? >> when i had the chance to go to congress i try to live that out every day. and as your governor and as vice president of the united states. and it's a deeply held belief of mine that democracy depends on heavy doses of civility. because as a practical matter i will tell you that if -- i've never seen a member of congress begrudge me my views and my values in a good vigorous debate, never prevented us from looking at other ways to work together. but when things become personal as they have too often on both sides of the aisle, then it
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makes the possibility of finding common ground very difficult. >> i don't know if that was the most satisfying answer for the person asking the question. you know, one of the criticisms of his responses last night was that, you know, it's pretty hard to say yes or no in washington, d.c. and answer a question, but yet he talked about the more contextual notion that you just addressed, kristen. i wonder what you make of that questioner in particular as it relates to how the polls are reflecting? is this idea of exhaustion with the lack of civility, is that something that is translating at the polls? >> so when you ask voters what their number one issue is republicans will say things like inflation and immigration. democrats will say things like abortion and climate change, but division and anxiety about that as something that is just fundamentally broken in our country is something you see pop up among republicans and democrats. if there's anything that unites
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us it is anger and frustration that we are so divided. the challenge for republicans is that that voter that asked mike pence that question for every one of her they lost, they did gain maybe one or half of a voter that actually liked the more combative tone, that felt finally someone's fighting for me. so the problem is can you find a candidate on the republican side that can bring someone like her back while still turning out? some of these voters that were really disconnected to the politics but for whatever reason came into the fold when trump ran. and mike pence is a tough messenger for this, too, because if you're someone like her you're say, look, you served this guy for four years. you said nothing but good things about him for four years while he lobbed these insults and et cetera, so he's not going to have that i'm done with the gop come back to imhad, and at the same time the hard core republicans are looking at him going you didn't stay with him
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on january 6th. if he does have presidential ambition it's going to get challenging for him -- >> how do you get out of it? >> civility is a tough message for mike pence to sell. not because mike pence is a civil guy. he is. the contrast between mike pence in that town hall and donald trump is fast. but he literally stood behind donald trump for four years -- >> whether it was satisfying or not he talked about the idea, you know, he criticized in private, where he had those personal moments -- >> yes, sure. go ahead, karen. >> i was going to say, sure, but now you're not the vice president to donald trump anymore, and now you can say, look, then i was doing my duty. i'll make the message up. let's do it on the spot. then i was doing my duty, i had agreed to be his vice president, but now let me tell you who i really am and what i really care
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about. and to say i don't want to see us continue to divide ourself, but again i think to chris' point the credibility -- to your point, he doesn't have a lot of credibility. >> he is so stuck between a rock and a hard place. you know, if you're mike pence and you're the governor of indiana and you get offered the vice-presidency you take it thinking if donald trump loses i've been the vice presidential nominee and maybe i can be the presidential nominee down the line. if donald trump wins suddenly you're the vice president and you think everything's marching right in the right direction. maybe he doesn't run again maybe in 2028 and january 6 happies and you're trapped because the trump people don't think you're trumpy enough and the people including in the republican party who don't like trump think you aided and abetted him no matter what you said in private. so it's a total no win. >> i did a focus group on "the new york times" right on the anniversary of january 6th of
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republican voters. and many were not happy about what happened on january 6th. they said they turned on their tv, saw these images, thought they were horrifying. but when you specifically asked about mike pence even some of the ones they said they thought everything was regrettable, they said it would have been nice if he at least delayed the certification. there are a lot of folks that are not the full on big lie, you know, type folks but nevertheless still think i don't know i'm with what he did that day even though many folks might say what he did was really brave. there are enough republicans who actually don't view it as bravery, and that's going to be a problem. >> that's fascinating to think about just the damned if you do, damned if you don't and also condemned if you do nothing. also first on cnn the lead agent from the former president donald trump's motorcade on january 6th, well he was interviewed by the january 6th committee today. so what will that mean for donald trump's now third run for the white house?
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tonight donald trump facing one investigation after another in the midst of his now declared third run for the white house.
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and there's news tonight on one of those investigations. sources telling cnn the january 6th committee has interviewed robert engel. now, you might remember that name. engel was the lead agent in then. president trump's motorcade on the day of the capitol attack. so what will all of this mean for trump's candidacy? let's bring in cnn legal analysts norm eisen and elliot williams. glad to see you both. always glad to talk to my fellow lawyers about this particular issue. because, look, first of all he may have announced but it doesn't mean anything stops in terms of the outside investigations. we showed that graphic of all the different things that were out there still. you and i have talked about this and i want to begin here because, look, i'm always wondering about the money. who's paying for these legal bills? who is footing the money here? >> laura, now that donald trump has announced, his campaign will
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be able to foot these legal bills. if he had waited until after, say, georgia d.a. in fulton county had charged him, there might be an argument that wasn't related today the campaign. but since he went first his campaign contributors can put him in the campaign in his pact, the rnc had been paying, they won't pay anymore. so he could be actually using his campaign as a funding mechanism to deal with his legal problems. >> and the rnc as you mentioned can't pay. they have a policy that says they cannot show favor to a now candidate or otherwise. it's fascinating to think about that, elliot, as the mechanism of how you could actually do it. but i'm really curious about this moment in terms of bobby engel. and i want to remind the audience do you remember this moment when cassidy hutchinson testified and it was that moment everyone was talking about, about whether trump reached for
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the steering wheel in anger about not being able to go down to the capitol. here's that moment. remember? >> the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm and said, sir, you need to take your hand-off the steering wheel, we're going back to the west wing, we're not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobbie engel. and when he recounted the story to me he had motioned towards his clavicles. >> so elliot, this is still ongoing the january 6th committee and obviously there was testimony. i wonder what you make of the potential. if bobbie engel corroborates what she said, which was challenged at the time, what impact to will this have on the investigation and the forthcoming report? >> not a ton, lawyer. and i spent a bunch of time when
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i was working around congress to help prepare testimony. my sense is it's sort of in cleanup mode because like you said there was a factual dispute over whether this took place. there were some comments in the press that it didn't happen. what they're doing i think by bringing him in again is just clearing it up and seeing what they can put in a report that corroborates whether this altercation happened. now, look, even if it didn't, if this is not the piece of evidence or information that's going to make-or-break the january 6th committee's work. what is not in dispute that number one the former president was not happy with the election result and then challenged it by going around the country with slates of fake electors. we know that for certain. whether he grabbed the guy's neck or shoulder or did not doesn't change the underlying sort of heft of what might come in the report and certainly doesn't change the question of whether anybody's going to be charged with a crime following -- based on the report they put out. >> speaking of charges, norm,
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and the idea -- i mean i wonder do you see the prospect -- you've written a number of reports on these issues along with the brennen center in particular, and i follow your work obviously. and i'm wondering do you think that there could be charges coming either from the doj or from willis and other investigations at the state level in manhattan and beyond. do you see the prospect of these charges because this is really of the perpetual billion dollar question from so many voters when they talk about the purported teflon don. >> laura, i think we're going to see likely a one-two punch, fulton county d.a. faunae willis charging for the fake electoral slates and the solistitation of election fraud, the election denial, alleged crimes of the 2020 election followed by today you had a big report out,
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prosecution memo with just security at nyu. the mar-a-lago document mishandling issues, big federal exposure there. if anyone else in the country had taken even one of those classified national security information documents with them from the white house they would be subject to prosecution. donald trump took dozens. i think it is very likely -- my coauthors agree -- very likely that doj is going to prosecute. >> and speaking of fulton county, elliot, just look at this on the screen. you've got this probe. who has already testified in that particular probe. you're talking about brian kemp, the governor of georgia and the governor elect yet again. you've got cassidy hutchinson, and you have upcoming in that familiar faces including senator lindsey graham and also michael flynn. and i wonder do you think that this particular investigation, elliot, poses the biggest litigation or prosecutorial
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threat? and if not, what does? >> that's an excellent question. now, it's clear they've gathered this evidence and frankly as norm has laid out in his report a few days ago a big thing going to arise from this we should all be prepared for are legal challenge from the president to being tried in georgia. number one, the fir thing he could do is try to move it to federal court saying it doesn't belong in a fulton county courthouse. he could make the argument so for instance as we've heard before he's immune from certain kinds of suit based on having been president of the united states or he had first amendment issues and so on. look, we can dispute and disagree with this until we're blue in the face as we're talking here, butthosis have to be resolved by a court. and that will certainly cause some delay in time. again, i'm going back to my friend norm's report, but makes the case he likely loses on some of these claims and he might, but at the end the day they have to be litigated in court and frankly nowhere else.
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>> and norm, this has to be slow rolled. when you kick the can as long as you can because there ain't no road -- do you think the kicking of the can down the road all this time, i mean that could obviously pass the good night period of the january 6th committee. will this be resolved by the time -- we have six weeks to go until the new congress begins. >> laura, i don't know if we're going back to the future or forward to the past with donald trump's delay strategy that we've seen so often and we're going to continue to see. but here's his dilemma. every day there is going to be news because of these two investigations and the many others that are going on, that one-two punch in georgia and the federal document case. every day there's going to be news about subpoenas being served, the witnesses testifying, witnesses not testifying, if there are charges. if elliot is right and there's a georgia case and it's removed, that will make news. i don't think with the political
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challenges donald trump already has, the failure of his election denial movement, his chosen candidates failing, that is going to be another anvil around his neck, this criminality as your previous segment said, people are tired of the fight -- >> i have to disagree a little bit with you, norm, though is that that assumes either the president or the supporters of the president actually regard being charged with a crime or being investigated by, frankly democratically elected officials or appointed officials as a bad thing, and it could actually be motivating for the supporters. i hear you, and that's the way it should be, right? but there might be a motivating element to some of this too, i think. >> well, gentlemen, there was a time in all of our lives when being investigated by doj would not have been a badge of honor, but, you know, i'm not getting any younger so we'll see what happens next about these issues.
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thank you so much. we'll leave it for another day because there will be more days of these very conversations. thank you, gentlemen. speaking of longer days for some, a mass exodus seems to be under way at twitter, and elon musk is responding. he's closing offices. he's blocking employee access. yes, you are experiencing deja vu. and if you went by a starbucks today -- i drove by one in minnesota earlier today when i was in st. paul, i saw workers striking right outside. and you may have seen them in your area of the country as well. we'll talk about all of this next. plop plop fizz fizz, with alka-seltzer plus cold & flu relief. also try for fizzy fast cough relief! [sfx: stomach gurgling] it's nothing... sounds like something. ♪ when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion, ♪ ♪ upset stomachdiarrhea. ♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes for fast rief... wh you need it most.
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so the question tonight -- how many employees are left at twitter? it's a night of turmoil that new owner elon musk's company, offices closed, employee access suspended in what appears to be a mass exodus of workers who don't want to commit to musk's extremely hard core -- whatever that means -- work ultimatum. remember the deadline was 5:00 p.m. today. meanwhile some 2,000 starbucks employees staged a one day strike nationwide protesting the company's contract negotiations. so what does all this tell us about what workers are expecting from their jobs right now? let me start with you here, chris, because first of all just put into context in a world where we have relied so heavily on social media, frankly, when it comes to politics and news, the fact it's in turmoil, it's
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not like a dismissed story. it really is top of mind for a reason. >> it is central to how i do my job, i will say that. i use it as a news feed. i maybe dumbly never thought of it disappearing. not as big as facebook but it's still a big company. >> we call that meta now. >> meta, ouch. i laughed a little bit in your intro, and then i thought to myself it's really not a laughing matter. you're talking about half of the staff losing their jobs when he takes over, and then whatever this is, the lockout -- i don't know what to call it -- you know, i just think it's -- if i didn't know better i would wonder how the heck elon musk got so rich because he -- look, he didn't inherent this money. spacex, tesla, he disrupted the
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car industry. this is someone who has real accomplishments. this isn't someone his dad was rich and now he's rich. but he doesn't seem like someone who's a good businessman running twitter with twitter's best interests at heart. the things that he's doing, you have to be extremely hard core what does that even -- can you quantify what extreme hard core means? is that 8:00 to 8 p.m. work hours. >> by the way, it's for 7,500 employees and their families. >> yes, but it was written in a way that if somebody -- am if my boss sent that to me okay, peace out. it was not written in a way that says we value you, we value the work you do. it was all this talk about you have to prove your excellence, but no measure of what does that actually mean? frankly, i feel like seems to me the only thing that seems to make sense is that this was part of the plan all along, to run
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twitter into the ground, declare bankruptcy for -- >> i'm not sure there seems there was a plan, which this to me seems like it's going to be studied in business schools for a long time as an example of a change in leadership going very badly, at least in the short-term. maybe there is a plan. maybe his vision to let's get rid of all the staff and let's start from scratch will build a bigger, better twitter down the road. but it does seem this is very ad hoc at the moment, which for a company as influential as twitter was is fascinating. if it goes away tomorrow i gave up twitter a few years ago and it was a really refreshing couple of weeks. >> did you stay on? >> of course not. and i think twitter has served as much as it can be a toxic wasteland a lot it has served a
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valuable purpose in that ten years ago a little junior analyst like me, twitter gave a chance for a nobody like me to get her stuff in front of big name people who would maybe take a seriously. so twitter can be a useful plat f platfirm for people to get visibility, but it's not perfect. so if it goes away i'll only be sort of sad. >> on this notion, first of all, i'm a nobody, do you love a nobody, too? think about where we are with this, and first of all there is a luxury in being able to peace out. there's a luxury in being able to say, okay, take it or leave it, well then, leave it. but there's also the idea here we're talking about as a study in business school i think we've grown accustomed in a society our feelings matter in business. this is a learned behavior where the idea of having your morale as employees is more important or if not as important as the bottom line. and i wonder if this reversion in some ways is what people are
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really responding to, the idea of we have quiet quitting in our midst. not too long ago you had the sheryl sandberg lean-in discussion. and now you've got this weird period we're in where they're saying no, you've got to work hard, the bottom line is important. is it the societal sort of spines on our back now? >> i think it's still a business that relies on people that people have to engage with. >> it's true. >> that's the difference. it's different than building a car or building a rocket, right, where i think some of the types of deadlines and the products you're creating are different. this is a people business. >> well, as is starbucks. of course fighting for that right now in the unionization. we'll see how that all unpacks. everyone, up next new developments tonight in the shocking case of four students found stabbed to death in their home, a small college town that hasn't seen a murder since 2015. we're on t the scene after this.
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four days after the murders of four students at the university of idaho there is still no suspect named, no murder weapon found and very few answers. leaving a college town not only in mourning but on edge. autopsy results did confirm today the 20 and 21-year-olds killed at their off-campus homes on sunday were stabbed to death. and there's now video of two of those victims, madison, and kaylee at a food truck earlier before they were killed when they returned to their home. >> reporter: laura, late today we learned those autopsies have been completed. the coroners report just
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released confirming what police have already revealed which is that those four students were all stabbed to death. now, the crime scene was very active today. we saw investigators still combing through evidence, taking photos inside that house. and this as neighbors, many of them who are university idaho students are still grappling with what had happened. take a listen. >> i don't think it's set in yet, like, you know, how insane this is. and the fact there's no answers is like the worst feeling ever. i know all of us have waiting to get out of here as fast as we can, and it's heart breaking. and that's like the scariest part because we're like we're 100 feet away. how close is this person? are they still around? it's so scary. >> reporter: laura, there are still so many unanswered questions including if one suspect did this or if there were multiple suspects. police don't know that. they also don't know why this happened. they don't have a motive. but they do believe this was a
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targeted attack based on evidence they found inside the home. what that evidence is they are not revealing yet to the public. laura? >> veronica, thank you so much. we've also gotten news on the deadly shooting at uva, three students killed, others injured and now one of those injured students finally able to communicate after spending days in the icu. stay with us.
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faces three charges of second degree murder and three counts of using a handgun as a commission of a felony. he also faces two counts of malicious wounding, each accompanied by a firearm charge. he remains held without bond. his next hearing is next month. what we're learning tonight, one of the two students seriously injured, uva running back, michael collins, is no longer intubated and has been removed from the icu after surgeries. according to a family friend, he is doing better. another survivor was released from the hospital earlier this week. thank you all for watching, now before we go, here's a look at the new cnn film, gabby giffords, won't back down. it takes viewers inside gifford 's relentless fight to recover from the 2011 assassination attempt, and her new life as one of the most effective activists in the battle against gun violence today. it premiers sunday at 9 pm.
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