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welcome back. the stars lined the red carpet for the 50th american music awards last night. an emotional night for many. ♪ ♪ there's nowhere to hide since you pushed my love aside ♪ ♪ i'm out of my head, hopelessly devoted to you ♪ >> gives you goose bumps, right? pink honored the late olivia newton-john sunday with the grease classic, hopelessly devoted to you. the biggest winner of the night, taylor swift. she went home with six awards, including artist of the year and favorite pop album for her rerecorded album, red, taylor's version. >> i can't thank you enough for caring about this album that i'm so proud of.
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>> taylor swift the most decorated in ama history. career total of 40 trophies. thank you so much for joining us. i'm whitney wild. "cnn this morning" starts right now. it is monday, november 21st. we have lots of news, sad news, as a matter of fact. in what was supposed to be a safe haven, five people were killed. 25 others injured. in a mass shooting at an lgbtq nightclub in colorado springs. also, kyrie irving is back from an eight game suspension and delivering an apology before taking to the court. a sudden and stunning shakeup at disney overnight, bob
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iger is back at the helm after less than a year retirement. can he now resurrect the empire. but first another mass shooting, another makeshift memorial. gun violence tearing at america again, this time in colorado springs where five people were murder. one person describing club q as an only safe haven in the city for the lgbtq community. a 22-year-old is now in custody. the owner said he was heavily armed when he entered the building with, quote, tremendous fire power and was taken down by two customers. rosa, good morning to you. what do we know about the survivors and the investigation? >> reporter: don, good morning. you know, you were talking just moments ago about the shooter.
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he's been identified by police -- this is the alleged shooter -- as 22-year-old anderson lee aldridge. according to police he was subdued by one or two individuals inside club q. shortly thereafter he was taken into custody and transported to the hospital. no charges have been filed at this point in time. as for his background, it is believed that he is the same individual who was arrested after a bomb threat in 2021. colorado springs grieving after police say a gunman stormed one of the only lgbtq clubs in the community. >> the motive of the crime is part of the investigation and whether this was a hate crime is part of the investigation. >> reporter: the club writing in a statement, club q is in shock and deep mourning. we condemn the horrific violence that shattered an evening of celebration for all in the lgbtq community of colorado springs and our allies.
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the shooting lasted only minutes with police detaining the suspect shortly after the first 911 call. police have identified the suspected shooter as 22-year-old anderson lee eldridge. police say he entered the club saturday and began shooting immediately with a long rifle. two weapons were found at the scene. >> at least one, possibly two, heroic individuals who subdued this guy, appears to have taken his handgun, he had a handgun with him, and used it to disable him. but for that, as tragic as this incident is, it's a horrible crime. it could have been much, much worse. >> reporter: and now, more details are emerging about the suspected shooter. including a 2021 arrest for felony menacing and first degree kidnapping after his mother said he threatened her with a homemade bomb and other weapons.
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>> this is an act of evil, a horrific act. colorado is strong we're resilient but this is a time of need for so many affected by this. >> reporter: the shooting has left the lgbtq community here devastated. >> a lot of people like myself we don't have families so lgbtq people need somewhere that is a safe space. club q gave that to us. >> my hope we come out strong from this. we show the communities that don't want lgbtq people to be out and about, we show them that we are here, we aren't going and hiding in a hole. we are staying strong and continuing to fight and we don't give up. >> reporter: authorities here have not released the names of the victims but the parents of one of the victims telling the denver post that their son died. take a look at his picture. this is daniel aston, again this is his parents telling the denver post that he died, that
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he was a bartender at club q, that he had moved to this area to be closer to his parents. as for the motive, don. investigators are not sharing what they do know, but the district attorney did say yesterday during a press conference that this is being investigated through the lens of a hate crime. the da also saying he's working with the u.s. attorney's office that the fbi is investigating. the point here being whether it's state charges or federal charges, it's about finding justice for the victims. don? >> rosa flores, thank you very much for that. one survivor, joshua thurman has been part of the community for more than a decade. he survived saturday's shooting hiding in a dressing room where he turned off all the lights. >> as i was dancing on the dance floor, i heard shots fired. i thought it was the music because there was no screams,
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no, help, help, nothing like that. then more shots. i realized what was going on. i ran to the dressing room immediately. there was a customer that followed me, and a drag performer in the dressing room. i made them lock the doors and we got down on the ground and cut off the lights immediately. we heard everything. we heard more shots fired. we heard the assailant being beat up by someone i assume that tackled him we heard the police come in. we heard them yelling at him. we heard them saying take certain people because they're critical. we heard everything. and all i can think about is, everything. my life. everything. friends, family, loved ones. i came here to celebrate my birthday. honestly, i was supposed to be in denver. but i came back a day early.
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and i -- i just -- it's sad. >> joshua, what does this mean for the lgbtq community here in colorado springs? >> it's hard to say. it means so much, because this is our only safe space here in the springs. and so, for this to get shot up, like what are regoing to do now? where are we going to go? yeah, we can rebuild and come together and this, but what about those people that lost their lives for no reason? like the other 18 that were injured. i could have been one of them. it means a lot because again what are we going to do now? how are we going to feel safe in our city? >> joshua said he was there to celebrate his birthday. ahead on cnn this morning we are going to speak with a bartender at club q who stared down the
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barrel of the gun during that shooting. and also speak with colorado's attorney general with questions about where the investigation stands this monday morning. a stunning development in the business world overnight. bob iger is back at the top of disney, two years after retiring from a legendary run. he replaces his successor, bob chapek after the company suffered a disappointing earnings with chapek having a rocky tenure with the public battles with florida governor ron desantis. chapek was criticized for not coming out forcefully and immediately against the not say gay bill. >> a lot of these issues are not necessarily political. it's about right and wrong. so i happen to feel, and i tweeted an opinion about this don't say gay bill in florida. to me it wasn't politics, it is
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what is right and what is wrong. and that just seemed wrong. it seemed potentially harmful to kids. >> listen also to how iger responded earlier this year when our friend cara swisher asked him about, by the way, about potentially coming back. >> one of the things that cnbc polled ten media executives anonymously about their 2022 predictions and one was that you'll return to disney. >> as what? >> i don't know. mickey mouse character. >> yes. >> there are rumors that you could become disney's ceo again. >> that's ridiculous. i was ceo for a long time. you can't go home again, i'm gone. >> really? it's happened before. >> i gave my id up, my name tag up, my office, my email address it's all gone. i think if i wanted to run a company i'd still be running disney. no, i did that. >> now he is. joining us now, sarah fisher. it's great to have you.
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i was reading through your reporting this morning. chapek has had a rocky run, but the fact that iger is coming back to disney to help get it off its knees, they face so many troubles. tell us what you know. >> i think these two have had a rocky relationship the last two years. a report came out in "the new york times" that sort of asserted that bob iger wanted to come back and bring more control to the company amid the coronavirus pandemic, i think the executives to be on the same page ever since. but what this really suggests to me, weakness on the side of the disney board. bob iger had years as a ceo to choose a successor. and now, him coming back, bob chapek didn't even get a proper good-bye. to do that process again and choose another successor is pretty outstanding to me. especially given the fact that bob chapek's contract was voted
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on by the board to be extended just a few months ago. >> i remember bob's book a few months ago and he wrote in it the way you do anything is the way you do everything. that example on how to deal with the bill in florida, chapek waffled for a long time, and employees got so mad and left and walked out. and iger said right away, no, this is wrong. this isn't politics. is that emblematic of his leadership? >> i think so. you're pointing to one of the most contentious points between the two. at the time, bob iger said that that is something he fully disagreed with, and disney's leadership under chapek was waffling, which put them at odds publically. so bob iger was a more decisive leader more intune to the culture at disney. but that doesn't mean that bob chapek has been failing the past two years. disney had grown at one point to
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have the subscriber base surpass netflix's. while they had a bad quarter the trend lines weren't new. streaming losses had been m mounting and wall street was frustrated with it. but these are trend lines happening the past few years. to me i'm shocked this replacement is happening so quickly after chapek's contract was just renewed. >> there's always what's being reported and what we hear about in the press. and there's behind the scenes. is there something behind the scenes we don't know about? >> reporter: two things. one activists and investors are mounting bigger positions within disney. the dan lobe fight got public when he tried to pressure disney's board to maybe come up with new leadership but also to spin out espn plus and bob chapek was able to stave that off. but new reporting by "the washington journal" about a different activist investor
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putting pressure at this time. and the tensions between the two executives behind the scenes sources told me was palpable. it wasn't one blow up fight but they weren't communicating and iger was not publically endorsing chapek's strategy all that much. >> thanks very much for being with us. another story that everyone is talking about and that is nba star kyrie irving, he's back on the court. >> so there you see him there, irving suited up with the brooklyn nets last night following an eight-game suspension after he tweeted a link to a documentary contained anti-semitic sentiments. he has since apologized. so much rabout this. it took a long time.
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>> yes, longer than all sides wanted. but i think this is the resolution everyone was hoping for. this has been three weeks. but the nets saved face a little bit by making kyrie go through the motions. we've seen examples in the past, it's a five-game suspension, serve it and you're done. this went to eight games making him meet with thought leaders in the jewish community, meeting with nba commissioner adam silverberg. but he was finally apologetic in the apology we got over the weekend. take a listen. >> i don't have hate in my heart for the jewish people or anyone that identifies as a jew. i'm not anti-jewish. i'm a person who believes we should all have equal opportunities and all shower each other with love. and that should be at the forefront. but it wasn't in that initial
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conversation and i take my accountability and i want to apologize for that because it came off the wrong way completely. >> he echoed that before and after the game as well. but just wanted to get back onto the court. the nets need him but this is the issue we've been talking about as it relates to professional athletes, they're humans, flawed, he dug his heels in, it took longer for him to come around and i say i screwed up. now that he has, hopefully everybody can move forward. >> what was the criticism before was the platform and the weight of his words. do you think he understands, at least as he's saying what kind of platform he does have and how troubling it is when he makes the comments. >> he said that was the biggest lesson learned. the power of the platform. whether that's the lesson everybody wants him to take away. you can't project how you want somebody to interpret everything he's been through over the last
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couple of weeks. but i think he has an understanding of the weight of his words and how they can galvanize people and affect people. and if he came away with the knowledge i need to be more careful regardless of what i believe and how it can impact somebody else, that's important. >> a lot of support in the arena last night. >> a warm welcome. >> we'll discuss that in the coming hours. thank you very much. next we'll take you live to buffalo, new york where people are waking up to another morning of mounting snow. and elon musk making the decision over the weekend to reinstate former president trump on twitter. questions about when and if the former president will return. we'll talk about that next. >> oh, boy. here we go. >> think he'll tweet? >> i don't know. and 1 ququarter moisturizers... in. dove 0 0% aluminum deodorant. lasting odor protection that's kind on skin. 'twas a wintry day, and at ihop quite soon
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ahead of you after a record setting snowstorm over the weekend. some areas getting six feet of snow as erie county, which includes buffalo, recorded the largest snowfall in a 24 hour period yesterday. this is what the stadium looks like in orchard park on sunday. cnn's polo sandoval is live in buffalo. i know 60,000 bills fans who bought tickets to that game in detroit. was it more about the game or they wanted to get away from the snow you're standing in there? >>. >> reporter: you know, hopefully that victory yesterday from the buffalo bills will help motivate the residents to take on the task you mentioned a moment ago, about 6.5 feet in some areas, in buffalo a little under that. they've done significant progress to clear the streets and highway. so you'll see these massive
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piles of snow. but this has to go. it's the wet, heavy snow that can't be left to melt. so the city is trucking this snow by the ton and taking it to certain city locations where it'll sit for months, potentially not melting until june, according to one city official. there are still residential neighborhoods under significant snow levels. many people have been working all weekend to dig themselves out. and really the focus right now is travel bans and advisories are still in place. on cleanup. that's why buffalo public schools cancelled classes today, asking folks to stay home and safe as they continue to dig out of this historic snowfall throughout western new york. >> i know it's cold there this morning. thank you for that. good luck to everyone there digging out of the snow as they wake up today. >> thanks, kaitlan. thanksgiving travel is projected to be the biggest, and
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therefore the most stressful, it's been in years. triple a is forecasting numbers shy of pre-pandemic levels. we're flying on thanksgiving. i find it's a little bit better than the days leading up, right? >> reporter: a good call, poppy. 54 million people in total over the next five days according to triple a will travel 50 miles or more. tsa anticipated 2.5 million people screened at airports nationwide tomorrow. getting ramped up here at reagan national airport. all of these people equate to a lot of stress when it comes to the travel experience. we reached out to the best experts on the topic to try to make your trip a little bit smoother. >> travel tips you might not know about. let's go. >> reporter: travel hacks are going viral ahead of this thanksgiving rush. >> a flight hack you didn't know. >> reporter: with triple a projecting for more than 54
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million people traveling 50 miles or more between wednesday and sunday. we turn today a trio of travel experts for advice to make your trips smoother. one of the biggest tips, ditch the checked bag. >> if your flight gets cancelled or you miss a connection, it's far easier to get put on a new plane and be nimble if you don't have a checked back they have to find and move to a new flight. >> reporter: a lot of airlines allow you to track your checked luggage on their app. but tiktokers came up with this idea. take a tagger like this and put it to the test. >> we put it to the test, tracking my bag as it went into the claim and out of the claim at charlotte. >> made it. >> i think this is one of the best viral tips to happen in years. >> reporter: still most
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americans will drive this holiday. triple a said it's best to drive when everybody else isn't. the worst times, wednesday from 11:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. on i-85 in atlanta, congestion could be twice the norm. coming home on sunday try to avoid driving from 4:00 p.m. until 8:00. >> the key is to be conscious of leaving at a reasonable time you know traffic should be a little bit better. it's not going to be light, great, but it should be better. >> reporter: beyond traffic one of the top concerns for drivers is the cost of gas. but gas buddy says a little bit of planning goes a long way with prices an average 35 cents higher than a year ago. simply crossing the border from arizona into california gas prices can spike by more than a dollar a gallon. >> if motorists are taking to the road for road trips i'd advise them to shop around. they could be leaving low gas prices behind or the low gas
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prices could be on the road in front of them. >> reporter: one more warning about driving. especially if you're coming to the airport. airports are worried that parking spots will begin running low. the problem is during the pandemic many people got used to driving to the airport instead of taking public transit. you can reserve your spot at many airports online ahead of time. but the biggest tip, simply be patient. besides the numbers the highest of the pandemic, they're the highest -- the third biggest in the last 20 years. >> we forgot to reserve our parking at laguardia, and it was not fun with two kids and five million suitcases. don wants to know if you have any good news. >> you are the grinch that stole thanksgiving. >> he's like murmuring over here. >> reporter: it's going to be pretty smooth we hope. we'll keep you posted. we'll do more stories on this
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okay. so look, whether you want it or not, this is what happened. elon musk restoring the former president's twitter account. he has been banned from the platform since the capitol attack. trump has previously said that he does not plan to return to twitter. and instead will continue to use his truth social platform. so let's discuss. cnn anchor and correspondent
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audie cornish is here. >> good morning to you. >> he's being intentionally provocative that's obvious because he needs eyes, needs attention -- i mean, elon musk -- to twitter and part of the whole thing about restoring the former president, do a poll is a look at me. >> i'm glad you're saying this because there's a business for that. elon musk doesn't believe in advertising. tesla never really did advertising because he thinks good products sell on their own. problem is, you just bought a company that runs on 90% advertising. >> and doesn't sell cars. >> doesn't sell anything. so brand safety and how advertisers feel about what is on the site along with their ads is meaningful. and lots said they were going to hit pause when he first bought it and started talking about trump. >> i can't believe advertisers are fleeing given what he tweeted the last 24 hours, talking about trump wanting to get back on twitter.
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what i was confused about saturday night, elon musk said he was going to form a content moderation council no reinstatements would happen before then. then a twitter poll on saturday, should trump be reinstated and now he said the account is active again? >> no one is going to teach this technique in any business school case studies going forward. this has been mess superimessy public, and people were treating twitter like public infrastructure. it was a space lots of people came to speak and play and interact but it's not public infrastructure. and this is what happens when a private person, a billionaire takes over and at this timers around with it. >> i was on twitter this weekend. and you pointed that out, kaitlan, everyone reuping what elon musk had tweeted about the council and the guarantees he did i think as he was looking to acquire the company and the
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checks people thought might be in place. but to your point about a billionaire taking over and taking it private, so there are none of the checks -- >> you have the mayor, i think we've gotten used to ceos in silicone valley maybe kind of nodding towards appeasing the public when they think the eye is on them. and that's not his game. he doesn't care. >> there's no board to check him. >> no. >> there's no share price to check him. >> there's a desperation aspect to this. >> absolutely. >> i seems desperate or as we say now, thirsty. this provocative image about jesus, someone temping jesus -- >> this was a sexualized image he's posting. and i think it's a good example of the thirst thing you're talking about, which is look at me, eyes on this, advertisers look eyes are still on this, stay with me by any means
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necessary. >> it makes you wonder, elon musk is very smart, obviously he's created successful companies, driven so much of the aspect of how we think about electric cars and spacex and all that aspect. when you see him tweet something like that, the people who say he's playing chess here, the long game, it makes you wonder if he is. >> there is no such thing. i stopped thinking about the chess thing in 2016. you're used to watching someone who's used to having his whims met. he tried to launch a subscription model with twitter blue. it kind of blew up in his face. now he's scrambling to make sure eyes are staying on the site. >> but people are falling for it, people who followed the poll, writing about it. >> he's take advantage of how we built up twitter in the media ecosystem. we're doing the segment because there's an element of twitter
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that matters in the public space and he's manipulating that to try to maintain this business decision he made that could hurt him in the long run. >> most of the people in the country are not on twitter, right? we want you to stand by because we have a lot to talk about. audie is going to join us to talk about the latest episode of her podcast. president biden making history quietly this weekend. harry inton is here with this morning's number. also this morning a plea from pediatricians as health care systems are strained by the rise in rsv. could become a family tradition? this is fifinancial security. and lincoln financial sosolutions will help you get there. as you plan, protect and retire. ♪ pain hits fast. so get relief fast. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. they release medicine fast for fast pain relief. annow get relief without a pill
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i can't even get it out of my mouth. i can't. i swear to god. it's like, no. come on, that can't be true. >> the milestone 80th birthday had renewed attention on the president's age given biden said he plans to talk with his family the next few months on his stated intention to seek a second term, at the end of which he would be 86. >> is age a legitimate issue? >> sure it is. if i were to run, i think they judge me on my vitality, can i still run up the steps of air force two, do i have my faculties, am i energetic. it's legitimate to ask those questions. it's legitimate to be concerned about anyone's age, including mine. >> so it's fair to ask but he
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has an answer about whether he's fit to serve. often reminding critics about his schedule and energy level. >> what's your message to them? >> watch me. >> until biden took office, former president trump, previously held the record for the oldest chief executive, he was 70 remember in january 2017 when he became the 45th president. he would be 82 at the end of the second term if his third bid for the white house is successful. questions about a president's age are not new, as this moment with ronald reagan on a debate city in kansas city in 1984 can tell you. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> walter mondale even laughing at that one. the question of age is not just one for the white house, also the house of congress. the 117th congress in january is
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the oldest the country has ever seen with nearly one in four members over the anyone of 70. when house speaker nancy pelosi announced she's ending her run as the leader of the democrats, she focused on a new era for the democratic party. >> for me the hour has come for a new generation to lead the caucus that i deeply respect. and i'm grateful that so many are ready and willing to shoulder this awesome responsibility. >> so lots of numbers we're talking about here with this morning's number is harry inton. 80 years old. >> 80. >> you -- >> 80, i feel 80 sometimes. list of oldest presidents. by years at the end of their presidency or currently. so joe biden right now, 80. far older -- or at least a little bit older, i shouldn't say far, ronald reagan the end of his presidency was 77. former president trump was 74 at the end. notice a lot of these folks are
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more recent presidents than not. though andrew jackson was 69 at the end of his presidency in the 1930s. in terms of a biden, trump matchup, each would be the oldest ever if there was a matchup between the two of them. election day 2024, joe biden would be 84. donald trump would be 78. >> it's not an outrageous thing that people ask about. the white house you talk to aides they say it's not fair to focus as much as some people do. but this shows the leaders we've had for a tale as old as time reagan himself was asked about it. >> it's something that i think it's going to be some real questions about these candidates them being older. but here's the thing i would note. in a theoretical, voters may not like a candidate over the age of 75 but may still elect one. back in 2019, how do you feel about a candidate who's 75 years old or older, 62% said they had
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reservations or felt very uncomfortable. only 37 pkd said they were enthusiastic or comfortable. this was before joe biden not only won the primary but won the presidency. i really do think that the fact that we're getting sort of these older candidates now reflects the fact that we're getting an older and older electorate. so the percentage of voters, 75 or older, back in 1980 was 5%. look now. it doubled. up to 10%. >> so maybe voters have reservations about it but they'll still vote for the candidate. we should have a fair conversation about what being 80 is like today versus when ronald reagan was in office. >> it's a fair thing and joe biden was right saying the voters will judge on an indi individuality. my father served as a judge until he was 82, and he was vibrant until the day he passed. you have to judge these people individually.
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you may have have an idea what's going on, but what the candidates in action and then make a judgment. >> as we will. thank you for those numbers this morning. let's bring in a geriatric medical specialist. good morning. >> good morning. >> president biden said as long as i can run up the stairs of air force one, judge me. >> 80 looks different for everyone. we joke if you met one 80-year-old you met one 80-year-old. there's such variability. >> not all 80-year-olds are created equal. i had an 80th surprise birthday party for my mom. everyone was like you're going to throw an 80-year-old a surprise birthday party. she's fine. she's up early in the morning, texts us early. >> every morning. >> she's really sharp.
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not all 80-year-olds are so sharp. >> that's right. we live in a wonderful age right now to get older because we are living longer and better. so so many people are living to 80 and having a great physical function and thinking clearly, but not everyone does. there just really is variability. you're at higher risk of developing these conditions as you get older but not everyone gets them. >> what about the respect for elders thing that we talk about. we treat our elder people -- we don't support them and honor them as much as other countries. it's a little bit difficult sometimes to talk about these issues and speak of a president that way. >> i'm glad you brought that up. one of the biggest challenges we face is anyonism. it's kind of the ism against your future self-. we don't have a culture in the united states that celebrates getting older. you know, my family is from korea and sometimes people lie about their age to be older there to get a little extra
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respect. so all of that comes into play as to how valued you are in a society. so it's an important point. >> one of the questions people have when we look at lawmakers, chuck grassley just won re-election, he's 89 years old. that's a big one people focused on. a question is biden is the way he is now, he says watch me. the question is what does that look like by the end of the second term. that was the question for reagan, we played that sound bite from 1984. but what can people expect in the next decade if it's biden, trump, someone of this age. >> remember at the end of reagan, not so much. >> it's a legitimate question. we don't have anything to predict how someone will be two years, five years, ten years from now. but the good news is that those people who are active and vibrant now in their 80s tend to continue that way for a little bit longer. so someone like your mother has a very good chance of continuing in that pathway and that
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trajectory and still kind of how they are now predicts how they're going to be the next five to ten years. >> very interesting. thank you very much. >> she keeps it young, your mom. >> i know she does. when i turn 80 in two years i hope i'm as spry as my mom. >> doctor, thank you. that was a smart conversation about a big topic that everyone is thinking of. >> and a lot of people dance around it because they worry about insulting. >> you have to do it when you're president, even he said it's legit. up next, dr. sanjay gupta is going to introduce us to a family who just made history giving birth to twins from embryos frozen in 1992. who is jack smith? attorney general merrick garland naming a special counsel to oversee the mar-a-lago investigation. we'll tell you more about him. >> thank you.
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we're going to go to the way back machine now. in 1992, bill clinton was running for the white house. witny houston starred in the body guard, taylor swift was 3 years old. and embryos were frozen. that made history for one family today. and dr. sanjay gupta is going to show us their journey. >> reporter: in april of 1992, more than 30 years ago, the world was different. bill clinton was running for
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president. phones looked like this. i was 23 years old. and at a small clinic these embryos were frozen. suspended in time at nearly 200 degrees below zero. waiting patiently at the national embryo donation center in knoxville, tennessee. that is until a few weeks ago, when twins timothy and lydia were born to rachel and phillip ridgeway of oregon. >> when we heard about embryo adoption we thought that's something we would like to do and able to do. >> adoption refers to living children and it's a legal process by which a parent/child relationship is created when it did not previously exist. >> reporter: dr. clipstein is a fertility specialist in chicago and chairs the ethics committee. she was not involved in the ridgeway's case. >> embryo donation is a procedure in which we take embryos from one couple or
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individual and transfer them to another individual or family to build families. >> reporter: freezing embryos is not a new technique, the first baby born from a frozen embryo was in 1984. but at a time when the boundaries of life have been pushed, a new question has arisen, how late is too late? >> we wanted to choose children that in our eyes were the most unwanted, the most needy. the ones in a lot of ways that have been overlooked. >> reporter: intentionally or not, the ridgeways have set a record. after 29 years and 10 months the donated embryos are believed to be the oldest embryos ever to result in a live birth. >> we weren't looking to get the frozen longest in the world, we were waiting for the ones that were waiting the longest at nedc. >> reporter: it's a faith based center who said they have
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facilitated 12,000 births through donated embryos. and the number of donated embryos has climbed from about 1,000 a year in 2013 to about 2,100 in 2020. of which, around 40% result in a live birth. >> the doctor enhanced my picture, i see three of them, and he said, so, you know, multiples can cause problems in pregnancy. and so he goes at this point i would recommend transferring two, put the third in the freezer and you can come back for it. so i looked back at dr. gordon and started to get teary eyed. i said no you showed me a picture of my three children, i have to have them all. >> i figured that -- >> reporter: but during an ultrasound they discovered they were having twins. >> i don't think there's any risk to freezing embryos that's related to the number of years that the embryo is frozen.
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and we have been cryo preserving embryos for nearly 40 years and there's not an increased risk to the babies or to the pregnant women. what makes the embryo a good quality oftentimes is the age of the woman at the time she donated eggs. the younger the woman, the more likely the embryo is going to be normal. >> reporter: for the ridgeways it's something larger, something they view as a personal mission. >> i was five years old when god gave life to lydia and timothy. in a real sense they're our oldest children, even though they're our smallest children. >> reporter: dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. >> they are adorable, don't you think? >> very cute. >> healthy babies. >> that's all that matters. >> that's all that matters. a lot of developments this morning, especially coming out of colorado. our coverage of a shooting that
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